Armagh v Cavan (Sun - 02-06-19) Clones

[LCohen]

https://twitter.com/kevingsmith12/status/1136028964588281859?s=19

What's the story here? Is there some crazed sexual fantasist claiming Shields stuck the finger McMenamin style up McVeety's hoop and this is evidence of it?

[Westside]

https://twitter.com/kevingsmith12/status/1136028964588281859?s=19

What's the story here? Is there some crazed sexual fantasist claiming Shields stuck the finger McMenamin style up McVeety's hoop and this is evidence of it?

Saw Shields at this down in front of me too. Is poking around at your marker's rear end a common thing in Armagh? Genuine question. We wouldn't really see this much in club football down here. Maybe it's a cultural thing?

Dara thankfully didnt seem too bothered so no harm, let Shields poke away to his heart's content.

[Solo_run]

https://twitter.com/kevingsmith12/status/1136028964588281859?s=19

Not too long after the Cavan player fell to the ground trying to get Shields sent off.

You are some joker, shields was down clutching his face 3 times. On one occasion he was so bad he left mcvetty run around inside the 20m line as he play acted and mcvetty ended up scoring. Soon as it went over he miraculously jumped up unharmed to complain to the referee and umpires. The fact he'd been dragging mcvetty for the previous 5 minutes was lost on him. No comment on the video though, how will you spin that I wonder.

There is a video of Shields talking to the ref about Cavan players throwing the elbow. Not long after that a Cavan player is given a red card for swinging his elbow into Shields jaw. That's not to mention the amount of tackles where Cavan have went for the neck.

https://youtu.be/EW6Tlgqskj4

https://youtu.be/hKKfWKioq8w

In the above video you can ses Shields explaining to the referee about previous incidents. Then the Cavan player falls to the ground.

https://youtu.be/htPNFsd2KpE

After a tackle around the neck of Grimley (which btw is not an isolated incident) again one of your players throws himself to the ground.

https://youtu.be/888NPhU4ezM

Here is an occasion where Cavan were successful in conning the referee. Holding the defenders arm and going down.

Armagh are no saints but do not be trying to make Cavan as angels

[LCohen]

https://twitter.com/kevingsmith12/status/1136028964588281859?s=19

What's the story here? Is there some crazed sexual fantasist claiming Shields stuck the finger McMenamin style up McVeety's hoop and this is evidence of it?

Saw Shields at this down in front of me too. Is poking around at your marker's rear end a common thing in Armagh? Genuine question. We wouldn't really see this much in club football down here. Maybe it's a cultural thing?

Dara thankfully didnt seem too bothered so no harm, let Shields poke away to his heart's content.

No evidence of it in Armagh and if the allegation is sticking the finger up the hoop the is no evidence of it in the county scene either. Just a couple of fellas on here engaging in some fantasy. Would that be common around Cavan?

Neither team are angels and neither will be angelic this Sunday. Get a sense of perspective on objectivity. Not a lot of Cavan men lining up to give an opinion on the obvious Cavan tactic of buying frees and leading with a fend off with hand or  arm. I'm perfectly willing to see the fault in Donaghy, the tactical deficiency of our management, Forker's dive and the ludicrousness of the argument that Grimley risked injury pulling on that ball but some of the Cavan folk here would give you the impression that Cavan schools haven't reopened since the big chill in '76

[Westside]

https://twitter.com/kevingsmith12/status/1136028964588281859?s=19

What's the story here? Is there some crazed sexual fantasist claiming Shields stuck the finger McMenamin style up McVeety's hoop and this is evidence of it?

Saw Shields at this down in front of me too. Is poking around at your marker's rear end a common thing in Armagh? Genuine question. We wouldn't really see this much in club football down here. Maybe it's a cultural thing?

Dara thankfully didnt seem too bothered so no harm, let Shields poke away to his heart's content.

No evidence of it in Armagh and if the allegation is sticking the finger up the hoop the is no evidence of it in the county scene either. Just a couple of fellas on here engaging in some fantasy. Would that be common around Cavan?

Neither team are angels and neither will be angelic this Sunday. Get a sense of perspective on objectivity. Not a lot of Cavan men lining up to give an opinion on the obvious Cavan tactic of buying frees and leading with a fend off with hand or  arm. I'm perfectly willing to see the fault in Donaghy, the tactical deficiency of our management, Forker's dive and the ludicrousness of the argument that Grimley risked injury pulling on that ball but some of the Cavan folk here would give you the impression that Cavan schools haven't reopened since the big chill in '76

Well I dont know the nitty gritty of what a player does when he has his hand on another's arse. That's why I asked, nobody from Armagh seemed too surprised by the video so I presume you've seen it before. This situation would just be more of a resting of the hand on the rear end would it? To what end might I ask? Some manly compliment to his glute development perhaps?

[rodney trotter]

Is Caolan Rafferty still working abroad? He was very good when Armagh reached the quarter finals in 2014

On the game in self, there was a few incidents but not really a dirty game for the most part.. Donaghy was dirty going down with the knees ..  Grimley was reckless, he wasn't intending to kick McKiernan but going in like that with the boot didn't look great

Morgan use to be a decent corner back. He just fouls alot now and McGeeney had to take him off before he was sent off. Burns is a class midfielder

[Look-Up!]

Just watched the game there.....agree that the ref was poor for both teams.....but even allowing for the conditions on the day...that was as poor as I've seen in a long time. I pity the fans that paid to see that.

It really is a bug bear of mine that Refs still haven't cottoned on to the forward trapping the arm to buy a free.

Fully agree. Jamie Clarke lucky not to get black on one particular occasion where he hauled Moynagh to the ground in front of ref. Got another incredibly soft free earlier.

[Armamike]

https://twitter.com/kevingsmith12/status/1136028964588281859?s=19

What's the story here? Is there some crazed sexual fantasist claiming Shields stuck the finger McMenamin style up McVeety's hoop and this is evidence of it?

Saw Shields at this down in front of me too. Is poking around at your marker's rear end a common thing in Armagh? Genuine question. We wouldn't really see this much in club football down here. Maybe it's a cultural thing?

Dara thankfully didnt seem too bothered so no harm, let Shields poke away to his heart's content.

No evidence of it in Armagh and if the allegation is sticking the finger up the hoop the is no evidence of it in the county scene either. Just a couple of fellas on here engaging in some fantasy. Would that be common around Cavan?

Neither team are angels and neither will be angelic this Sunday. Get a sense of perspective on objectivity. Not a lot of Cavan men lining up to give an opinion on the obvious Cavan tactic of buying frees and leading with a fend off with hand or  arm. I'm perfectly willing to see the fault in Donaghy, the tactical deficiency of our management, Forker's dive and the ludicrousness of the argument that Grimley risked injury pulling on that ball but some of the Cavan folk here would give you the impression that Cavan schools haven't reopened since the big chill in '76

Well I dont know the nitty gritty of what a player does when he has his hand on another's arse. That's why I asked, nobody from Armagh seemed too surprised by the video so I presume you've seen it before. This situation would just be more of a resting of the hand on the rear end would it? To what end might I ask? Some manly compliment to his glute development perhaps?

The rear I presume.

[haveaharp]

Must have heard about all the tight arsed Cavan men and decided to check it out for himself.

[brokencrossbar1]

Must have heard about all the tight arsed Cavan men and decided to check it out for himself.

A cavan man wouldn't shove his finger up another man's arse....a sheep's arse...now that's another matter altogether....

[Imposerous]

Must have heard about all the tight arsed Cavan men and decided to check it out for himself.

A cavan man wouldn't shove his finger up another man's arse....a sheep's arse...now that's another matter altogether....

His finger?

[Itchy]

https://twitter.com/kevingsmith12/status/1136028964588281859?s=19

Not too long after the Cavan player fell to the ground trying to get Shields sent off.

You are some joker, shields was down clutching his face 3 times. On one occasion he was so bad he left mcvetty run around inside the 20m line as he play acted and mcvetty ended up scoring. Soon as it went over he miraculously jumped up unharmed to complain to the referee and umpires. The fact he'd been dragging mcvetty for the previous 5 minutes was lost on him. No comment on the video though, how will you spin that I wonder.

There is a video of Shields talking to the ref about Cavan players throwing the elbow. Not long after that a Cavan player is given a red card for swinging his elbow into Shields jaw. That's not to mention the amount of tackles where Cavan have went for the neck.

https://youtu.be/EW6Tlgqskj4

https://youtu.be/hKKfWKioq8w

In the above video you can ses Shields explaining to the referee about previous incidents. Then the Cavan player falls to the ground.

https://youtu.be/htPNFsd2KpE

After a tackle around the neck of Grimley (which btw is not an isolated incident) again one of your players throws himself to the ground.

https://youtu.be/888NPhU4ezM

Here is an occasion where Cavan were successful in conning the referee. Holding the defenders arm and going down.

Armagh are no saints but do not be trying to make Cavan as angels

Is this a joke.

[Solo_run]

https://twitter.com/kevingsmith12/status/1136028964588281859?s=19

Not too long after the Cavan player fell to the ground trying to get Shields sent off.

You are some joker, shields was down clutching his face 3 times. On one occasion he was so bad he left mcvetty run around inside the 20m line as he play acted and mcvetty ended up scoring. Soon as it went over he miraculously jumped up unharmed to complain to the referee and umpires. The fact he'd been dragging mcvetty for the previous 5 minutes was lost on him. No comment on the video though, how will you spin that I wonder.

There is a video of Shields talking to the ref about Cavan players throwing the elbow. Not long after that a Cavan player is given a red card for swinging his elbow into Shields jaw. That's not to mention the amount of tackles where Cavan have went for the neck.

https://youtu.be/EW6Tlgqskj4

https://youtu.be/hKKfWKioq8w

In the above video you can ses Shields explaining to the referee about previous incidents. Then the Cavan player falls to the ground.

https://youtu.be/htPNFsd2KpE

After a tackle around the neck of Grimley (which btw is not an isolated incident) again one of your players throws himself to the ground.

https://youtu.be/888NPhU4ezM

Here is an occasion where Cavan were successful in conning the referee. Holding the defenders arm and going down.

Armagh are no saints but do not be trying to make Cavan as angels

Is this a joke.

Is your reply a joke?

[Look-Up!]

Now the dust has settled and we can view the game with cooler heads how do we see this one going? Expecting another tight physical battle. Not much between the two teams and whoever wins I really cannot see a particularly big margin. Armagh will feel they can play better. So do Cavan. Hopefully McKiernan will be back to full fitness and will have a big influence on things. If we can convert our free kicks better it will be worth an extra 3-4 points to us at least. Wonder will Graham spring any surprise additions to the panel with this in mind? Ciaran Brady will be a loss in defense and driving forward but needs to learn. It's very tough making that panel so it gives someone else a chance of reward for all the hard slog training wise.
Will Armagh set up similar and concede the kick outs. I think they will. McGeeney doesn't seem to like the element of risk and prefers to have an element of control over the factors. Think he will be happy to sit back in shape and soak up the attacks and then back his forwards to do enough to win it. Burns is a terrific player and will be crucial for Armagh. Hope he's ok for replay. Can Graham get better use out of Martin Reilly? Can the Cavan backs keep the shackles on the Armagh forwards again? I hope so. The extra week for Murnin could see him closer to full fitness though. All in all it makes for an intriguing contest and very hard one to call.
Referee watch. Think both sets of fans will be a bit nervous of what we're going to get in this department. Hopefully there are no major points of contention. What I liked about Cavan the last day was that they just got on with the game. Ball might have been moved on a few times for wrestling on the ground after the free but there was no serious mouthing to referee from players or sidelines. Previous years and maybe even in the early rounds of the league this year, we have had a tendency to turn refs against us especially from head cases on the sideline. Granted we didn't take advantage of any favours the ref done us but we didn't let the bad calls beat us. This mentality is vital in a team and hopefully it's a calming influence and maturity Graham has brought to us and we improve on it. End of the day if you're wishing the ref to win you a game you're not a serious championship team. Same with Armagh. They will look for whatever margins they can get but will get on with what type of game the ref is playing. Indeed both sets of management and players after the game never mentioned the ref and just complimented each other on a hard physical game. Don't expect the replay to be anything different. Good luck to both teams and may the best team win.

[Westside]

I dont think Cavan's defensive performance was any sort of one off. I dont expect Armagh to rack up a big score. Mickey will be happy enough to go for a similar system to last week. Dont cough up any goals and use the pace of the Murrays and Dara to greater effect and we can sneak a win.
If Armagh can keep the same level of intensity in defence and the ref allows the low level pulling and dragging then itll be another tough day for us. If he pulls Armagh on it from early on I think we could win by 3/4.