China Coronavirus

[grounded]

It done the trick alright. Mandatory vaccination would have sealed the deal in Ireland.


Quite a few studies to demonstrate its effect..


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(21)00273-5/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(22)00196-7/fulltext

[PadraicHenryPearse]

It done the trick alright. Mandatory vaccination would have sealed the deal in Ireland.


Quite a few studies to demonstrate its effect..


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(21)00273-5/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(22)00196-7/fulltext

the US is not comparable and the first study states... We found no effect in countries that already had average uptake (Germany), or an unclear effect when certificates were introduced during a period of limited vaccine supply (Denmark), it.did find effects in France and Israel.... what the effect in Ireland is not clear from.those two links.

[grounded]

It done the trick alright. Mandatory vaccination would have sealed the deal in Ireland.


Quite a few studies to demonstrate its effect..


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(21)00273-5/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(22)00196-7/fulltext

the US is not comparable and the first study states... We found no effect in countries that already had average uptake (Germany), or an unclear effect when certificates were introduced during a period of limited vaccine supply (Denmark), it.did find effects in France and Israel.... what the effect in Ireland is not clear from.those two links.

Okey dokey.

P.s. It done the trick alright.

[From the Bunker]

Night Clubs were opened for 2 weeks to encourage 18-30 year olds to get the vaccine. They'd never have got it otherwise! They seen they were young, felt strong enough to fend it off and couldn't be bothered!

[From the Bunker]

So where are we with the Vaccine now?

What does it do?

Does it stop you getting Covid?

Does it stop you spreading Covid?

How long does it last?

Does it make you sick?

Is there any serious side effects?

How does the vaccine work now that f*** all are getting it?

Is there no herd immunity anymore?

Are you all still believing this BS and making loads of money for the Pharmaceuticals and PPE producers?

[trueblue1234]

Interesting article on the vaccines.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-pfizer-transmission-european-parliament-950413863226

[PadraicHenryPearse]

It done the trick alright. Mandatory vaccination would have sealed the deal in Ireland.


Quite a few studies to demonstrate its effect..


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(21)00273-5/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(22)00196-7/fulltext

the US is not comparable and the first study states... We found no effect in countries that already had average uptake (Germany), or an unclear effect when certificates were introduced during a period of limited vaccine supply (Denmark), it.did find effects in France and Israel.... what the effect in Ireland is not clear from.those two links.

Okey dokey.

P.s. It done the trick alright.

you claim to follow the science but then it didn't suit so 'okay dokey'... then you quote one TCD professors opinion from a bbc article...

I am not surewhat point you are even trying to make anymore...

[grounded]

It done the trick alright. Mandatory vaccination would have sealed the deal in Ireland.


Quite a few studies to demonstrate its effect..


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(21)00273-5/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(22)00196-7/fulltext

the US is not comparable and the first study states... We found no effect in countries that already had average uptake (Germany), or an unclear effect when certificates were introduced during a period of limited vaccine supply (Denmark), it.did find effects in France and Israel.... what the effect in Ireland is not clear from.those two links.

Okey dokey.

P.s. It done the trick alright.

you claim to follow the science but then it didn't suit so 'okay dokey'... then you quote one TCD professors opinion from a bbc article...

I am not surewhat point you are even trying to make anymore...

Always the same with you.
       Leap into defending the pharmaceutical companies and c19 vaccinations and mandates ( i can only surmise you must work in the industry) and then round and round in circles, ad naseum.
   

[PadraicHenryPearse]

It done the trick alright. Mandatory vaccination would have sealed the deal in Ireland.


Quite a few studies to demonstrate its effect..


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(21)00273-5/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(22)00196-7/fulltext

the US is not comparable and the first study states... We found no effect in countries that already had average uptake (Germany), or an unclear effect when certificates were introduced during a period of limited vaccine supply (Denmark), it.did find effects in France and Israel.... what the effect in Ireland is not clear from.those two links.

Okey dokey.

P.s. It done the trick alright.

you claim to follow the science but then it didn't suit so 'okay dokey'... then you quote one TCD professors opinion from a bbc article...

I am not surewhat point you are even trying to make anymore...

Always the same with you.
       Leap into defending the pharmaceutical companies and c19 vaccinations and mandates ( i can only surmise you must work in the industry) and then round and round in circles, ad naseum.
   

I work in financial services... I am not defending anyone, in most cases I am answering questions you have asked me... and initially I was thanked for honest replies...

you have three links that are inconclusive in terms of proofing anything you are trying to alluded too yet you are trying to make out that you are following the science and that everyone else didn't.. 

if I am wrong correct me.

[grounded]

Last try. I'm saying the covid passport in Ireland caused an increase in the uptake of the c19 vaccine among the unvaccinated population. In my opinion a form of coercion(that's my opinion).

Covid-19 vaccine uptake in the Republic of Ireland "would have been much lower" without the vaccine passport scheme, an immunology expert has said.

Prof Kingston Mills from Trinity College Dublin said it was "a big incentive" for people to get jabbed

So, is he making it up?

The vaccine figures show a greater uptake among the unvaccinated after the c19 vaccination passport was introduced

Those other studies i linked showed that in countries with high initial vaccine uptake (like Ireland) that vaccine passports and other mandates increased vaccine uptake among the unvaccinated.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Last try. I'm saying the covid passport in Ireland caused an increase in the uptake of the c19 vaccine among the unvaccinated population. In my opinion a form of coercion(that's my opinion).

Covid-19 vaccine uptake in the Republic of Ireland "would have been much lower" without the vaccine passport scheme, an immunology expert has said.

Prof Kingston Mills from Trinity College Dublin said it was "a big incentive" for people to get jabbed

So, is he making it up?

The vaccine figures show a greater uptake among the unvaccinated after the c19 vaccination passport was introduced

Those other studies i linked showed that in countries with high initial vaccine uptake (like Ireland) that vaccine passports and other mandates increased vaccine uptake among the unvaccinated.

tcd professor is giving his opinion, like you are giving yours...

the studies are not conclusive and you are cherry picking to suit your argument.

I think the biggest reason for uptake was to be vaccinated against covid, i dont think anyone was coerced in Ireland by the covid passport, it might have influenced the timeliness of when they got it.

anyone who didn't want to take it, didn't take it... covid passport didn't move them people one bit...

regardless, I think you are attempting to say the passport was only introduced so people would get the vaccine and you haven't provided any proof of that.

[grounded]

Last try. I'm saying the covid passport in Ireland caused an increase in the uptake of the c19 vaccine among the unvaccinated population. In my opinion a form of coercion(that's my opinion).

Covid-19 vaccine uptake in the Republic of Ireland "would have been much lower" without the vaccine passport scheme, an immunology expert has said.

Prof Kingston Mills from Trinity College Dublin said it was "a big incentive" for people to get jabbed

So, is he making it up?

The vaccine figures show a greater uptake among the unvaccinated after the c19 vaccination passport was introduced

Those other studies i linked showed that in countries with high initial vaccine uptake (like Ireland) that vaccine passports and other mandates increased vaccine uptake among the unvaccinated.

tcd professor is giving his opinion, like you are giving yours...

the studies are not conclusive and you are cherry picking to suit your argument.

I think the biggest reason for uptake was to be vaccinated against covid, i dont think anyone was coerced in Ireland by the covid passport, it might have influenced the timeliness of when they got it.

anyone who didn't want to take it, didn't take it... covid passport didn't move them people one bit...

regardless, I think you are attempting to say the passport was only introduced so people would get the vaccine and you haven't provided any proof of that.

Okey dokey.

[Armagh18]

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/28/clashes-in-shanghai-as-protests-over-zero-covid-policy-grip-china

Major trouble in China over their zero covid policy by the sounds of it

[shawshank]

The passport was introduced to force people who hadn't taken the vaccine to take it i.e. coercion
Another version of save your granny and another version of get the vaccine and you won't pass it unto someone. This was what was driven. All turn out to be political myths (https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1596990025366794240). None grounded in science.

[armaghniac]

The passport was introduced to force people who hadn't taken the vaccine to take it i.e. coercion
Another version of save your granny and another version of get the vaccine and you won't pass it unto someone. This was what was driven. All turn out to be political myths (https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1596990025366794240). None grounded in science.

Stop talking bollix promoted by loonies, we are not eejits. 

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2792598
"fully vaccinated individuals had a notably shorter duration of viable viral shedding and a significantly lower secondary attack rate. Data from this study provide important evidence that despite the possibility of breakthrough infections, COVID-19 vaccinations remain critically useful for controlling the spread of SARS-CoV-2."