6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022

[RedHand88]

I think Aontú done "ok". Considering the first nationalist FM at stake it was always going to be hard to make inroads.
They beat PBP who are an established party now. Weren't too far behind the greens either. They were not the complete write off that many predicted.
The right candidate in the right area (West belfast?) With a fleshed out policy document could have a chance of a seat in the future.

[imtommygunn]

Marty I think tuv only getting one seat a big thing for the dup. In the next election, which unfortunately could be six months away, they can present the tuv as not being a serious option and may get more on the back of it.

The dup are not and never have been serious about power sharing. The ni protocol is a red herring to get them out of it. Stormont can do nothing so it makes no sense but they know that.

Franko I sometimes think he's a bot.

[93-DY-SAM]

Marty I think tuv only getting one seat a big thing for the dup. In the next election, which unfortunately could be six months away, they can present the tuv as not being a serious option and may get more on the back of it.

The dup are not and never have been serious about power sharing. The ni protocol is a red herring to get them out of it. Stormont can do nothing so it makes no sense but they know that.

Franko I sometimes think he's a bot.

Why should there be another election in 6 months' time? Just because the DUP didn't get what they wanted in not coming out on top. Do we keep voting until the DUP win most seats? If there is another election I hope SF push on and pull in an even bigger vote. Unionists (for all persuasions) are telling nationalists this morning they do not have the right to hold the FM post. We are still viewed as inferior in their eyes. That is the naked truth of it. The protocol is a smokescreen they are hiding behind. All Nationalist parties need to call this out over the coming days.

[seafoid]

Marty I think tuv only getting one seat a big thing for the dup. In the next election, which unfortunately could be six months away, they can present the tuv as not being a serious option and may get more on the back of it.

The dup are not and never have been serious about power sharing. The ni protocol is a red herring to get them out of it. Stormont can do nothing so it makes no sense but they know that.

Franko I sometimes think he's a bot.

Why should there be another election in 6 months' time? Just because the DUP didn't get what they wanted in not coming out on top. Do we keep voting until the DUP win most seats? If there is another election I hope SF push on and pull in an even bigger vote. Unionists (for all persuasions) are telling nationalists this morning they do not have the right to hold the FM post. We are still viewed as inferior in their eyes. That is the naked truth of it. The protocol is a smokescreen they are hiding behind. All Nationalist parties need to call this out over the coming days.

Elections follow the rules. NI had an election in 2016 and another one in 2017 because Deputy FM Martin McGuinness resigned over RHI

[Armagh18]

Marty I think tuv only getting one seat a big thing for the dup. In the next election, which unfortunately could be six months away, they can present the tuv as not being a serious option and may get more on the back of it.

The dup are not and never have been serious about power sharing. The ni protocol is a red herring to get them out of it. Stormont can do nothing so it makes no sense but they know that.

Franko I sometimes think he's a bot.

Why should there be another election in 6 months' time? Just because the DUP didn't get what they wanted in not coming out on top. Do we keep voting until the DUP win most seats? If there is another election I hope SF push on and pull in an even bigger vote. Unionists (for all persuasions) are telling nationalists this morning they do not have the right to hold the FM post. We are still viewed as inferior in their eyes. That is the naked truth of it. The protocol is a smokescreen they are hiding behind. All Nationalist parties need to call this out over the coming days.

Elections follow the rules. NI had an election in 2016 and another one in 2017 because Deputy FM Martin McGuinness resigned over RHI

That seriously needs looked at. Just a shame Alliance didnt take a few more seats and become second party.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Yeah, it's totally a symbolic thing.  I think that's the main reason the DUP will not go in again.  They set their stall up a few months re: protocol when they saw the series of opinion polls and they were lagging behind SF. This was when they made the statement about protocol must be sorted. 

They don't see nationalists as equals.
They only do equality on their terms.
Nationalists must call them out on this and use this mantra to the media.

Aoife Moore was on RTÉ yesterday saying SF were driving the re-united Ireland theme and that it was ironic that FFG etc. in the 26 counties have no interest...and them so called republican parties.

SF must be pleased about their move in Derry to replace their two mla's there with new candidates.  Worked out really well for them.

DUP, after losing votes, but holding a lot of seats will be happy enough I think.  They'll be delighted that Allister is just back in himself.

Alliance got a lot of the 4th and 5th seats and will be delighted. Be interesting to see will this replicate into council seats at the next local elections.

SDLP will be shocked. Typical Derry city bluster under Eastwood. He needs to be asked the hard questions.

UUP didn't get much from the Beattie bounce but always said they have to shrink before they grow. Maybe he's right to stick at it.

Aontú - the mirror opposite to the TUV. With the backing of the bishops and the CC, they haven't made much inroads. Be interesting to see will you see their candidates stand again in the local elections.

Green Party - lost two seats and everyone disappointed about that, whatever political party you support. Again, they'll have to build from the bottom up.

PBP - Carroll the single mla again. Squeezed out again.

Whats does Derry City bluster  mean? is that a comment in general about Derry or what is it?

Educate yourself also about Aontú, TUV, catch yourself on, starting to sound like Allison Morris, disgraceful how she and others were trying to push this narrative.

[Pub Bore]

Has anyone checked on Mick Fealty?

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I think Aontú done "ok". Considering the first nationalist FM at stake it was always going to be hard to make inroads.
They beat PBP who are an established party now. Weren't too far behind the greens either. They were not the complete write off that many predicted.
The right candidate in the right area (West belfast?) With a fleshed out policy document could have a chance of a seat in the future.

Aontú done ok, lots of second and third preferences but need to get into a dog fight with high first preferences to make them worthwhile. I think you are right but, an analysis of the spread of votes going forward would be good.

SF getting 2 seats in Derry is no surprise but the fact that they done it with 2 untested and unknown individuals probably points more to the electorate buying quite a bit into the FM thing.

Im not happy that McLaughlin got in SDLP, nasty piece of work

Looking forward to seeing the NW get its share of investment, it could be a long wait

[Mourne Red]

I think Aontú done "ok". Considering the first nationalist FM at stake it was always going to be hard to make inroads.
They beat PBP who are an established party now. Weren't too far behind the greens either. They were not the complete write off that many predicted.
The right candidate in the right area (West belfast?) With a fleshed out policy document could have a chance of a seat in the future.

Aontú done ok, lots of second and third preferences but need to get into a dog fight with high first preferences to make them worthwhile. I think you are right but, an analysis of the spread of votes going forward would be good.

SF getting 2 seats in Derry is no surprise but the fact that they done it with 2 untested and unknown individuals probably points more to the electorate buying quite a bit into the FM thing.

Im not happy that McLaughlin got in SDLP, nasty piece of work

Looking forward to seeing the NW get its share of investment, it could be a long wait

What have you got against McLaughlin? You've not a kind word to say about anyone Fear lol

[lenny]

I think Aontú done "ok". Considering the first nationalist FM at stake it was always going to be hard to make inroads.
They beat PBP who are an established party now. Weren't too far behind the greens either. They were not the complete write off that many predicted.
The right candidate in the right area (West belfast?) With a fleshed out policy document could have a chance of a seat in the future.

The big problem they have is, like the tuv, they're not at all transfer friendly. They're seen as right wing, religious fundamentalists and the small minority who think in that way will back them but liberal catholics will never give them a vote. I wouldn't give them a transfer personally because I detest that kind of person/politics from either side.

[seafoid]

Were there any Alliance seats west of the Bann ?

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I think Aontú done "ok". Considering the first nationalist FM at stake it was always going to be hard to make inroads.
They beat PBP who are an established party now. Weren't too far behind the greens either. They were not the complete write off that many predicted.
The right candidate in the right area (West belfast?) With a fleshed out policy document could have a chance of a seat in the future.

The big problem they have is, like the tuv, they're not at all transfer friendly. They're seen as right wing, religious fundamentalists and the small minority who think in that way will back them but liberal catholics will never give them a vote. I wouldn't give them a transfer personally because I detest that kind of person/politics from either side.

"Seen as" ok. But surely people are more educated than that and actually know they aren't right wing, you aren't saying people don't know their left from their right are you? Of course they are transfer friendly, that was evident at the count.

[Armagh18]

I think Aontú done "ok". Considering the first nationalist FM at stake it was always going to be hard to make inroads.
They beat PBP who are an established party now. Weren't too far behind the greens either. They were not the complete write off that many predicted.
The right candidate in the right area (West belfast?) With a fleshed out policy document could have a chance of a seat in the future.

The big problem they have is, like the tuv, they're not at all transfer friendly. They're seen as right wing, religious fundamentalists and the small minority who think in that way will back them but liberal catholics will never give them a vote. I wouldn't give them a transfer personally because I detest that kind of person/politics from either side.

"Seen as" ok. But surely people are more educated than that and actually know they aren't right wing, you aren't saying people don't know their left from their right are you? Of course they are transfer friendly, that was evident at the count.

Like it or not that is how people view them. Most people know very little about Aontu bar the fact they're anti abortion. Nothing against them myself other than not liking splitting the nationalist vote.

[tbrick18]

Marty I think tuv only getting one seat a big thing for the dup. In the next election, which unfortunately could be six months away, they can present the tuv as not being a serious option and may get more on the back of it.

The dup are not and never have been serious about power sharing. The ni protocol is a red herring to get them out of it. Stormont can do nothing so it makes no sense but they know that.

Franko I sometimes think he's a bot.

Why should there be another election in 6 months' time? Just because the DUP didn't get what they wanted in not coming out on top. Do we keep voting until the DUP win most seats? If there is another election I hope SF push on and pull in an even bigger vote. Unionists (for all persuasions) are telling nationalists this morning they do not have the right to hold the FM post. We are still viewed as inferior in their eyes. That is the naked truth of it. The protocol is a smokescreen they are hiding behind. All Nationalist parties need to call this out over the coming days.

Elections follow the rules. NI had an election in 2016 and another one in 2017 because Deputy FM Martin McGuinness resigned over RHI

That seriously needs looked at. Just a shame Alliance didnt take a few more seats and become second party.

I'd agree with that, the rules around this are not working.
But, to change the rules they all have to agree to change them!
The problem Alliance have, if they did become the second largest party, they couldn't take the DFM role as they are not designated Nationalist/Unionist. That, imo, is wrong too.
Times have moved on from the 90's and the dark days of the troubles and what was suitable then isn't necessarily suitable now in terms of these governmental structures.

The SDLP don't seem to have anything to offer at the moment. Yes there would have been some votes gone to SF in an attempt to get the FM role, but I honestly believe that due to the type of campaign SDLP held, it made it very difficult for SF voters to give them a transfer vote. Instead opting for the more moderate Alliance. SDLP almost mirrored DUP tactics in attacking SF at every opportunity. That would rub a lot of nationalists the wrong way.

DUP are being publicly found out on their true opinion on power sharing and government. It's power sharing as long as they get their way and they have the top job. They have nowhere to go unless the British government offers something up on the protocol.
I did hear on the wireless this am a dup member (forget who) said that the Dup would nominate DFM, provided issues with protocol are resolved and a programme for government is agreed. So a very heavily caveated agreement to accept the outcome of a democratic vote.
I think the DUP will be nervous of a second election. They could lose more votes and there is every chance SF would get more. Imo, there would be a bigger turn out of nationalists for a second election given the DUP reluctance to agree to nominate a DFM. No matter what way you look at it now, DUP will lose face in some sectors of their electorate.

Alliance, what an election from them. It's been coming for a while and shows how the centre ground electorate is growing here. There will always be hardline right/left voters but the centre is definately widening and in another election Alliance could grow more.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I think Aontú done "ok". Considering the first nationalist FM at stake it was always going to be hard to make inroads.
They beat PBP who are an established party now. Weren't too far behind the greens either. They were not the complete write off that many predicted.
The right candidate in the right area (West belfast?) With a fleshed out policy document could have a chance of a seat in the future.

Aontú done ok, lots of second and third preferences but need to get into a dog fight with high first preferences to make them worthwhile. I think you are right but, an analysis of the spread of votes going forward would be good.

SF getting 2 seats in Derry is no surprise but the fact that they done it with 2 untested and unknown individuals probably points more to the electorate buying quite a bit into the FM thing.

Im not happy that McLaughlin got in SDLP, nasty piece of work

Looking forward to seeing the NW get its share of investment, it could be a long wait

What have you got against McLaughlin? You've not a kind word to say about anyone Fear lol

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