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GAA Discussion / Re: Derry V Donegal Ulster final 2022

« on: May 25, 2022, 04:14:25 PM »

Donegal have a better goalkeeper, they have a definite edge in midfield, and vastly superior forwards. They also possess a bench that Derry would be envious of.
Derry have the better defensive individuals, but crucially Derry also have a much superior system of play.

Systems > individual talents. 

Derry to win by 3

I honestly think the Derry goalkeeper is under-rated.
I thought he did really well the the games so far, in particular against Monaghan. Made a good early save and his kickouts were accurate.
He made one or two mistakes in the 2nd half against monaghan when they really pushed up on our kickouts, but I think that was more to do with what was happening out the field rather than him making poor judgements.

Not debating that the Donegal keeper is better, just that I think the Derry keeper is better than he gets credit for.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Derry V Donegal Ulster final 2022

« on: May 25, 2022, 03:53:14 PM »

I think some of this conversation should be moved to the Derry thread chaps!

In terms of confidence for Sunday, I personally don't know anyone confident of a Derry win.
First and foremost, everyone is hoping that we don't get tanked!
I don't personally see that happening given our performances against Tyrone and Monaghan.....but then I think back to Galway and get more nervous again.

Donegal are rightly favourites and are better equipped in terms of experience and the bench to cope with things not going their way than Derry are.
Derry are fit, conditioned, organised and have a strong spine of a team but I still think lack a little bit from the bench. For Derry to win, everything must go right for them and some things have to go wrong for Donegal.
If Donegal can disrupt what Derry have been doing so far, it's theirs to lose.

Still hoping for a Derry win.

Does there have to be a winner on the day?

Prediction: Draw
Derry to win by 2 after extra time.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling

« on: May 22, 2022, 09:30:02 AM »

Brilliant result for the minors, comfortable for the most of the game and always looked like winning well.

Will Derry get an another allocation of tickets with the minors through to the final?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Derry V Donegal Ulster final 2022

« on: May 21, 2022, 02:10:35 PM »

I couldn't get tickets so far either. I don't care about going but my father has watched Derry for over 50 years. The annoying thing is that my local club don't make it easy to become a member. They don't seem to go around doors selling membership like they used to do. I think the game should have been in Croke Park

Strange view that your father can’t get membership as the club don’t go door to door… surely your aware of the individual’s involved with the club and a message could soon sort out payment of membership, hardly the fault of the club here.

Not particularly, getting a club membership that you have nothing do to with isn't at the top of someone's priority. When they used to go around doors (a few years ago was last time) it was basically a reminder about membership.

Anyway, my business owner uncle is able to obtain us tickets now so that is old news. It is just a reminder to get membership next year.

Does your business owner uncle have any more tickets to spare? 😁

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GAA Discussion / Re: Derry V Donegal Ulster final 2022

« on: May 20, 2022, 03:49:12 PM »

I had moved afair bit away from my local club, used to be there was a general sale in owenbeg yrs ago for Derry supporters not attached to clubs, doesn't seem to happen any more.

I dont live in Derry any more and not a club member any more so was relying on the general sale tickets for myself and the kids.
Not looking good right now!

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GAA Discussion / Re: Derry V Donegal Ulster final 2022

« on: May 20, 2022, 02:17:53 PM »

Yeah how do we get stand tickets?
Actually, cant get any tickets of any sort via ticketmaster!

There was a message sent out around the  clubs earlier today saying that it would only be terrace tickets available  online today

Fair enought, but there's no tickets for any location online!

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GAA Discussion / Re: Derry V Donegal Ulster final 2022

« on: May 20, 2022, 02:07:37 PM »

Yeah how do we get stand tickets?
Actually, cant get any tickets of any sort via ticketmaster!

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling

« on: May 20, 2022, 09:30:08 AM »

Too much in the papers, Donegal saying f**k all, I rather we do our talking after we won something.

Funny I was thinking the same thing.
Derry have a chance, nothing more.
Donegal are heavy favourites imo, they have proven big game experience and know how to win. They will be armed with the knowledge of how Monaghan put us under the cosh on the second half so could do that to us for the whole game. They'll be sitting back quietly happy the spotlight is off them right now and on Derry instead.

Can we win a tight game? Or a game we fall behind in early on? Can we change our tactics enough to chase a game in the last 15 mins if behind? All unkowns at this point.
That's not taking away from the manner of performance so far, just a realistic view of a supporter who has seen many false dawns with Derry.

If everything goes well for us on the day, we can impose our game on Donegal and Loughlin is fit to play we have a good chance of competing.
If we cant impose our game, lose a player or two to injury or a card, we will really struggle. But then, any team can say that no matter who they are playing.

Feet on the ground....we qualified for a first final in 11 years (I think). That's real progress given the quality of teams we have beaten. How far we can go remains to be seen but even we lose, pride in the side has been restored and we can look forward with some confidence that things are moving in the right direction.

I'd be overjoyed if we can win an Ulster though.

Any chance of this? I assumed he was out but heard nothing since

Haven't heard anything either.
Looked like a hamstring issue on the day, would be doubtful if he makes a recovery from that in 2 weeks I suppose.
That will weaken us as he was going well. Free taking would be a massive loss but his movement and open play have been very good.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling

« on: May 19, 2022, 02:41:53 PM »

Too much in the papers, Donegal saying f**k all, I rather we do our talking after we won something.

Funny I was thinking the same thing.
Derry have a chance, nothing more.
Donegal are heavy favourites imo, they have proven big game experience and know how to win. They will be armed with the knowledge of how Monaghan put us under the cosh on the second half so could do that to us for the whole game. They'll be sitting back quietly happy the spotlight is off them right now and on Derry instead.

Can we win a tight game? Or a game we fall behind in early on? Can we change our tactics enough to chase a game in the last 15 mins if behind? All unkowns at this point.
That's not taking away from the manner of performance so far, just a realistic view of a supporter who has seen many false dawns with Derry.

If everything goes well for us on the day, we can impose our game on Donegal and Loughlin is fit to play we have a good chance of competing.
If we cant impose our game, lose a player or two to injury or a card, we will really struggle. But then, any team can say that no matter who they are playing.

Feet on the ground....we qualified for a first final in 11 years (I think). That's real progress given the quality of teams we have beaten. How far we can go remains to be seen but even we lose, pride in the side has been restored and we can look forward with some confidence that things are moving in the right direction.

I'd be overjoyed if we can win an Ulster though.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Derry V Donegal Ulster final 2022

« on: May 18, 2022, 01:59:02 PM »

The only Ulster Finals between the two sides -

Two were played in great conditions for football (’92 & ’11), one played in poor conditions (’98) and one played in horrendous conditions (’93).

2011:
Donegal 1-11 Derry 0-08

1998
Derry 1-07 Donegal 0-08

1993
Derry 0-08 Donegal 0-06

1992
Donegal 0-14 Derry 1-09

So far in this campaign Donegal have posted scores of 1-16 & 2-16. Derry have put up 1-18 & 3-12.  But I’d suggest we might have a low scoring encounter, similar to the previous finals between the two sides.

Hoping that it’s not an omen, but looking back at the 2011 campaign. Derry scored 1-18 in their QF win over Fermanagh, and 3-14 in their demolition of Armagh. Unfortunately, in the build up to the Final, Eoin Bradley was injured at training (ACL, I think) and a huge scoring threat was taken away.

The teams from the 2011 final.  No one from Derry still involved. From Donegal, I think its just McGee, Murphy and McBrearty.

Donegal: P Durcan; F McGlynn, N McGee, P McGrath; A Thompson, K Lacey, K Cassidy; R Kavanagh, N Gallagher; M McHugh, M Hegarty, R Bradley; P McBrearty, M Murphy, C McFadden. Subs: M McElhinney for Kavanagh (31), D Molloy for McBrearty (54), D Walsh for Bradley (58).

Derry: D Devlin; S L McGoldrick, K McGuckin, D McBride; C Mullan, C Kielt, M Bateson; J Diver, M Friel; M Lynch, C O’Boyle, B McGoldrick; E Muldoon, J Kielt, C Gilligan. Subs: M Donaghy for Bateson (29), K McCloy for Mullan (45), G O’Kane for B McGoldrick (60), E McGuckin for Gilligan (60) PJ McCloskey for Muldoon (62).

1992 was such a sickener from a Derry perspective.
No matter what, we were always going to win the 1993 game thought the conditions that day were horrific. The game should never have been played.
In 2011, we'd already lost Paddy Bradley to an ACL and then at a training session the week of the final Skinner did his ACL also. Left us struggling up front. Even at that, a dubious penalty award to Murphy is what swung the game to them, imo. Small margins can have huge knock one effects.
Derry went into a kind of free fall after that with a succession of failed managers and teams.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Football Championship Predictions- Week 6 closes Friday midnight

« on: May 17, 2022, 09:06:08 PM »

Wexford v Offaly                Offaly by 5

Wicklow v Waterford           Wicklow by 7

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GAA Discussion / Re: Monaghan v Derry USFC SF Sunday May15th 16.00

« on: May 16, 2022, 09:56:15 AM »

Honestly, I think we will beat Donegal by 5 or 6, have not impressed me this year so far

I wouldnt be so confident.
Donegal are a big game team. Haven't been firing on all cylinders so far, but could click against us!
50/50 game with donegal slight favourites given their experience.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Monaghan v Derry USFC SF Sunday May15th 16.00

« on: May 15, 2022, 10:23:00 PM »

Top class from Derry.

Completely dominated the first half forcing Monaghan I to shooting from poor positions.
Really purposeful in attack and looked like scoring from every attack.
Hopefully Loughlin isnt badly injured as he's been playing really well.

Benny Heron's best season in a Derry jersey.

Glass was awesome, Chrissy and Rogers locked the door.
Lynch did really well in goals. Even in the second half when monaghan were coming strong he just kept calm and did the simple things right.

But for me mckinless is a different level. His running, defending, tackling, attacking and his goal were as good as you'll see.

Gough was a total joke today in that second half in particular.

Brilliant win, brilliant buzz. Donegal are there to beat now.
That's another story.
We should have beat them last year nad we have their ex manager.
Could this be our year to finally get back to winning championships?

Good post tbrick. Another really enjoyable championship day out. The wains all buzzing on the way home too, wee bag of chips. You couldn't beat it and an Ulster Final to look forward to. The Athletic Grounds is a superb venue for football

It was a good day out for some, but there were other car rides home where the wee wains were in tears and no chips.

Yeah we've had plenty of those days
Almost nothing but those days for a very long time.

We'll enjoy this and appreciate it all the more as these days have been rare.

Monaghan played their part to make it the game it was. Hopefully we c go on now to emulate some of what Monaghan have done and win an Ulster

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GAA Discussion / Re: Monaghan v Derry USFC SF Sunday May15th 16.00

« on: May 15, 2022, 07:45:36 PM »

Top class from Derry.

Completely dominated the first half forcing Monaghan I to shooting from poor positions.
Really purposeful in attack and looked like scoring from every attack.
Hopefully Loughlin isnt badly injured as he's been playing really well.

Benny Heron's best season in a Derry jersey.

Glass was awesome, Chrissy and Rogers locked the door.
Lynch did really well in goals. Even in the second half when monaghan were coming strong he just kept calm and did the simple things right.

But for me mckinless is a different level. His running, defending, tackling, attacking and his goal were as good as you'll see.

Gough was a total joke today in that second half in particular.

Brilliant win, brilliant buzz. Donegal are there to beat now.
That's another story.
We should have beat them last year nad we have their ex manager.
Could this be our year to finally get back to winning championships?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Monaghan v Derry USFC SF Sunday May15th 16.00

« on: May 13, 2022, 04:42:02 PM »

Delighted to be in the semi final because I didnt expect it.

Very hard to know where derry are actually at after the last game as others have said derry were very good but tyrone were awful

I am very wary of expecting too much from any derry team. We have consistently fallen flat and failed to back up 1 big perfomance with another, here's hoping that finally changes on sunday

I think monaghan will push up on our kick out so dont see as much handy possession this time round.

Could be a tight low scoring game, a goal will be a big factor for whoever gets it

Hopefully Goughs previous issue with McGuigan is not a factor come sunday, although I suspect it will.

Heart says derry by 2, head says monaghan by 3.
Might stick a fiver on the draw!

My feelings exactly.
I've learnt over the years to never expect too much with Derry.
I don't think Gallagher will let them get carried away with themselves but you just never know what will happen on the day.

Hard to know what the matchups will be. Mckaigue def a man marker. Monaghan have a couple or 3 forwards who would need man marked.