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seafoid

Quote from: armaghniac on September 04, 2018, 01:12:07 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 04, 2018, 01:09:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 04, 2018, 12:30:14 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.
Uachtarán CLG is a business as usual role. The machine works and there isn't much to do. But Gaelic football is not business as usual right now
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

joemamas

Quote from: armaghniac on September 04, 2018, 01:12:07 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 04, 2018, 01:09:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 04, 2018, 12:30:14 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.

If that quote is accurate, then that is simply mindboggling.

Dinny Breen

Quote from: joemamas on September 04, 2018, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 04, 2018, 01:12:07 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 04, 2018, 01:09:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 04, 2018, 12:30:14 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.

If that quote is accurate, then that is simply mindboggling.

He's from Dublin, he's hardly going to admit to a problem, certainly not on his watch.
#newbridgeornowhere

seafoid

What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Rossfan

Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 04, 2018, 01:44:09 PM
Quote from: joemamas on September 04, 2018, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 04, 2018, 01:12:07 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 04, 2018, 01:09:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 04, 2018, 12:30:14 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.

If that quote is accurate, then that is simply mindboggling.

He's from Dublin, he's hardly going to admit to a problem, certainly not on his watch.
Crowds well down at Dublin's Croke Park games this year.
Only a few thousand at their reception.
2 dead Provincial Championships and now a dead AI one as well.
Things are grand John!!!
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Hound

Quote from: joemamas on September 04, 2018, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 04, 2018, 01:12:07 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 04, 2018, 01:09:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 04, 2018, 12:30:14 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.

If that quote is accurate, then that is simply mindboggling.
But it's not what he said!

Of course he was more upbeat than some on here would like and he did reference the All Irelands being sellouts, but he also referenced that mistakes were made during the year and that things could be better but that they're already working on improvements for next year.

Honestly, if people think on the evening of the All Ireland that the President should be saying the game is in shit, etc, then they are complete gobshites.

From the Bunker

Quote from: seafoid on September 04, 2018, 02:22:40 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?

No!

Syferus

#472
Quote from: Hound on September 04, 2018, 03:24:46 PM
Quote from: joemamas on September 04, 2018, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 04, 2018, 01:12:07 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 04, 2018, 01:09:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 04, 2018, 12:30:14 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.

If that quote is accurate, then that is simply mindboggling.
But it's not what he said!

Of course he was more upbeat than some on here would like and he did reference the All Irelands being sellouts, but he also referenced that mistakes were made during the year and that things could be better but that they're already working on improvements for next year.

Honestly, if people think on the evening of the All Ireland that the President should be saying the game is in shit, etc, then they are complete gobshites.

The mistake was giving a 'county' that was already an amalgamation of four hugely populous counties a massive injection of money.

Honestly, if people think on the evening of the All Ireland that the President shouldn't honest, etc, then they are complete gobshites.

Esmarelda

Quote from: seafoid on September 04, 2018, 02:22:40 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Syferus

#474
Quote from: Esmarelda on September 04, 2018, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 04, 2018, 02:22:40 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to the bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.

Esmarelda

Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 03:48:42 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on September 04, 2018, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 04, 2018, 02:22:40 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

trailer

Quote from: Esmarelda on September 04, 2018, 03:55:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 03:48:42 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on September 04, 2018, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 04, 2018, 02:22:40 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.


Syferus

Quote from: trailer on September 04, 2018, 04:04:19 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on September 04, 2018, 03:55:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 03:48:42 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on September 04, 2018, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 04, 2018, 02:22:40 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.

And you're also 'simply wrong' if you think putting counties in a ghetto is a better solution.

highorlow

QuoteMeath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best

Get real, Meath were robbed this year by the All Ireland Finalists. Kildare beat Mayo.

Either the rest are all shit or Dublin are so far ahead now it's getting unbalanced.

Which is it?

Take the Dubs out of the competition then everyone in Div 1 and 2 would fancy winning the thing, that's the reality.
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

From the Bunker

Big attendance in Omagh yesterday for the homecoming.