Westminster Election 12th December 2019

[five points]

Nor Ballymena or east Belfast but I'd imagine it'll be a a straight poll and anything over 50% will be enough. Though it's at least 10 years away in my opinion

You can add a zero to that, in my opinion. In the meantime, DUP voters switching to Alliance doesn't change anything.

[Maroon Manc]

Personally quite gutted at the results in England and Wales. It's clear this was about Brexit and the people in those areas are steadfastly determined to jump off the cliff. I find it astonishing but I can understand it given the wall to wall coverage it has received.

As usual some unfair and inaccurate comment on Corbyn. I think he has done a tremendous job in making Labour stand for something again. I believe completely in the policies put forward and I know they are the only solution to growing wealth inequality, the jobs timebomb and the climate crisis. Eventually the people will realise this - hopefully before it's too late. I don't think he lost the election on his policy platform - the policies are popular. Brexit meant all bets were off. The Tories, like Trump in 2016, worked out what had to be said to win and the did it relentlessly. A winning strategy perhaps but that's a sad reflection on where we're at I'd say. Corbyn will go but Labour must stay the course with a modern social democratic alternative. Nothing worse than a country with two main parties offering the same.

The silver lining to the cloud is that a United Ireland is closer. I only hope and pray when it comes about we've moved away from the Varadkar/Murphy Tory style politics on this island and our kids get the United Ireland that brave people a century ago envisioned. 

It's not inaccurate seanie Corbyn was/is a disaster and if the Labour party blame this defeat solely on Brexit they will never recover. Corbyn may well stand for something (Farage and Tommy Robinson stand for plenty too) and that's fine but the public don't want it so either they package up the same policies but get somebody better to sell them to the public or they need to change tack altogether!!

Correct, would be very arrogant to think its solely about Brexit. Interesting times ahead for the Labour party, the powers that be will want Corbyn to hang around whilst they maintain control.

[Rossfan]

Anyone able to say when Labour last won a majority of English seats ?
There are 99 in Scotland and Wales 60-70 of which used to go to Labour in the old days enabling them to win a GE without having to win in England.
As for the blue collar workers voting for the party who put them in the excrement in the first place.....🙄
Obviously think Brexit is a magic bullet that will make them all great again.

[Maroon Manc]

Anyone able to say when Labour last won a majority of English seats ?
There are 99 in Scotland and Wales 60-70 of which used to go to Labour in the old days enabling them to win a GE without having to win in England.
As for the blue collar workers voting for the party who put them in the excrement in the first place.....🙄
Obviously think Brexit is a magic bullet that will make them all great again.

Labour won over 400 seats in both 97 and 2001 whilst the Tories were around 160 in both elections so would have been then.

[seafoid]

The silver lining to the cloud is that a United Ireland is closer. I only hope and pray when it comes about we've moved away from the Varadkar/Murphy Tory style politics on this island and our kids get the United Ireland that brave people a century ago envisioned.

Sorry, I can't ever see North Down voting for a united Ireland.

IRFU areas would be more likely to agree than IFA areas, surely

[five points]

Sorry, I can't ever see North Down voting for a united Ireland.

IRFU areas would be more likely to agree than IFA areas, surely

In theory, yes. In practice, when push comes to shove, hard to see it happening.

[BennyCake]

Is Boris still going for a border down the Irish sea or can this be changed?

Will Douglas become the new Crossmaglen?

[Milltown Row2]

Nor Ballymena or east Belfast but I'd imagine it'll be a a straight poll and anything over 50% will be enough. Though it's at least 10 years away in my opinion

You can add a zero to that, in my opinion. In the meantime, DUP voters switching to Alliance doesn't change anything.

Sorry what I meant to say, was that was just to have a poll, I can't see it being passed first or second time around

[RadioGAAGAA]

The silver lining to the cloud is that a United Ireland is closer. I only hope and pray when it comes about we've moved away from the Varadkar/Murphy Tory style politics on this island and our kids get the United Ireland that brave people a century ago envisioned.

Sorry, I can't ever see North Down voting for a united Ireland.

You don't know your history very well.

Where did the* United Irishmen come from?

*ok, a significant proportion of.

[RadioGAAGAA]

In theory, yes. In practice, when push comes to shove, hard to see it happening.

In practice - when it comes to putting food on the table - it is easy to see it happening.

[Denn Forever]

Iv all the non tories voted as a single bloc. would they have enough to vote down a gov. bill?

[Milltown Row2]

Iv all the non tories voted as a single bloc. would they have enough to vote down a gov. bill?

Sure there are Tories that are pro remain

[Mourne Red]

Nor Ballymena or east Belfast but I'd imagine it'll be a a straight poll and anything over 50% will be enough. Though it's at least 10 years away in my opinion

You can add a zero to that, in my opinion. In the meantime, DUP voters switching to Alliance doesn't change anything.

Sorry what I meant to say, was that was just to have a poll, I can't see it being passed first or second time around

Milltown out of curiosity what do you think the % would be in a border poll??

[screenexile]

Saw a great tweet earlier:

YET MORE ANIT CORBYN BIAS FROM THE ELECTORATE

Sums it up fairly well.

[Itchy]

Personally quite gutted at the results in England and Wales. It's clear this was about Brexit and the people in those areas are steadfastly determined to jump off the cliff. I find it astonishing but I can understand it given the wall to wall coverage it has received.

As usual some unfair and inaccurate comment on Corbyn. I think he has done a tremendous job in making Labour stand for something again. I believe completely in the policies put forward and I know they are the only solution to growing wealth inequality, the jobs timebomb and the climate crisis. Eventually the people will realise this - hopefully before it's too late. I don't think he lost the election on his policy platform - the policies are popular. Brexit meant all bets were off. The Tories, like Trump in 2016, worked out what had to be said to win and the did it relentlessly. A winning strategy perhaps but that's a sad reflection on where we're at I'd say. Corbyn will go but Labour must stay the course with a modern social democratic alternative. Nothing worse than a country with two main parties offering the same.

The silver lining to the cloud is that a United Ireland is closer. I only hope and pray when it comes about we've moved away from the Varadkar/Murphy Tory style politics on this island and our kids get the United Ireland that brave people a century ago envisioned.

Its not about Brexit, its about racism and the uneducated little englander blaming Johnny Foreigner for all his woes.