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Title: John Delaney
Post by: Kingdom37 on January 31, 2020, 07:17:22 AM
the government bailing out the FAI  again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences.  Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: seafoid on January 31, 2020, 09:15:39 AM
Good point
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: rosnarun on January 31, 2020, 10:21:05 AM
is there even a garda investigation open?
when its now official that the affair has cost the country over 30 million surely some one must be held accountable and if as the auditors claim there were lied to then  an offence must have occurred,
with this latest present from the Taxpayer I would love to find out what contribution the FAI have actually made towards the Aviva out of their own money? have the paid anything , A number of years ago the FAI were Celebrating how they had saved 10 million by 'restructuring' the loan which just means they told the bank unless your write down the load your getting nothing at all.
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: TheGreatest on January 31, 2020, 01:00:06 PM
JD is working for DOB in London ! ...
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?

Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 31, 2020, 07:17:22 AM
the government bailing out the FAI  again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences.  Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
He is being investigated by the OCDE.

The money to his partner aside, what fraud was committed, or is alleged? Bad management and corporate governance is not confined to the FAI, although it was a nuclear example.
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 01:20:02 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?

Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend
Ahhh good oul "Soccer good Gah bad" man at it again.
When the Government step in to pay GAA's unpaid Bills come back and slag them then.
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 02:03:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 01:20:02 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?

Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend
Ahhh good oul "Soccer good Gah bad" man at it again.
When the Government step in to pay GAA's unpaid Bills come back and slag them then.

Im bot slagging anything,wind it in.

You argued soccer should not get money as you think home helpers is a better use of taxpayers funds. They get a fraction we do, so...
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 31, 2020, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 31, 2020, 07:17:22 AM
the government bailing out the FAI  again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences.  Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
He is being investigated by the OCDE.

The money to his partner aside, what fraud was committed, or is alleged? Bad management and corporate governance is not confined to the FAI, although it was a nuclear example.

Will he do time?

For what?

It would be nice for people like himself and the Anglo lads to be held toaccount, but as it stands, the only law I can see being pushed, if even broken, was his squeeze as a consultant.
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: rosnarun on January 31, 2020, 05:18:53 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 31, 2020, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 31, 2020, 07:17:22 AM
the government bailing out the FAI  again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences.  Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
He is being investigated by the OCDE.

The money to his partner aside, what fraud was committed, or is alleged? Bad management and corporate governance is not confined to the FAI, although it was a nuclear example.

Will he do time?

For what?

It would be nice for people like himself and the Anglo lads to be held toaccount, but as it stands, the only law I can see being pushed, if even broken, was his squeeze as a consultant.
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the stupid money he was paid and they he ruled with an ironfist us the FAI's fault but not criminal but  if he lied to an auditor that would be an offense as it is a  company in receipt of Government money and any such lie would have tax implication, but according to my lawyer  he didn't do any of that surely
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Franko on January 31, 2020, 05:24:06 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 31, 2020, 07:17:22 AM
the government bailing out the FAI  again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences.  Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
He is being investigated by the OCDE.

The money to his partner aside, what fraud was committed, or is alleged? Bad management and corporate governance is not confined to the FAI, although it was a nuclear example.

;D ;D

"Apart from the alleged fraud, no allegations of fraud have been levelled against him"
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Franko on January 31, 2020, 05:24:06 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 31, 2020, 07:17:22 AM
the government bailing out the FAI  again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences.  Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
He is being investigated by the OCDE.

The money to his partner aside, what fraud was committed, or is alleged? Bad management and corporate governance is not confined to the FAI, although it was a nuclear example.

;D ;D

"Apart from the alleged fraud, no allegations of fraud have been levelled against him"

Lets try again. What criminal offence(s) do you think he committed?

In my opinion the only one that might stick is paying the girlfriend a wage. But he won't do time for that, if it even gets as far as the Garda.
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 05:40:28 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on January 31, 2020, 05:18:53 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 31, 2020, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 31, 2020, 07:17:22 AM
the government bailing out the FAI  again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences.  Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
He is being investigated by the OCDE.

The money to his partner aside, what fraud was committed, or is alleged? Bad management and corporate governance is not confined to the FAI, although it was a nuclear example.

Will he do time?

For what?

It would be nice for people like himself and the Anglo lads to be held toaccount, but as it stands, the only law I can see being pushed, if even broken, was his squeeze as a consultant.
.
the stupid money he was paid and they he ruled with an ironfist us the FAI's fault but not criminal but  if he lied to an auditor that would be an offense as it is a  company in receipt of Government money and any such lie would have tax implication, but according to my lawyer  he didn't do any of that surely

If...

What do you think is going on in Galway? No sports body is whiter than white here. We know what his obscene salary was because they told us. What is the Ard Stiúrthóir on?

Delaney was picked apart by the media, not any agency of state. Look at rugby, their press are muzzled and would never ask the same questions.
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: magpie seanie on January 31, 2020, 09:21:48 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?

Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend

What government monies have the GAA mismanaged or wasted?
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 01, 2020, 12:08:28 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2020, 09:21:48 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?

Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend

What government monies have the GAA mismanaged or wasted?
Maybe he means all the Sports Council cash that Bertie got for John Bailey and the Dublin CB. What do you think yerself? ;D
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on February 01, 2020, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2020, 09:21:48 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?

Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend

What government monies have the GAA mismanaged or wasted?

Do you think PuC looks like a €110m stadium?
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: From the Bunker on February 01, 2020, 07:29:31 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 01, 2020, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2020, 09:21:48 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?

Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend

What government monies have the GAA mismanaged or wasted?

Do you think PuC looks like a €110m stadium?

That's not wasted money! There will be at least one maybe two big games a year there.  :P
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Franko on February 03, 2020, 12:59:54 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Franko on January 31, 2020, 05:24:06 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 31, 2020, 07:17:22 AM
the government bailing out the FAI  again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences.  Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
He is being investigated by the OCDE.

The money to his partner aside, what fraud was committed, or is alleged? Bad management and corporate governance is not confined to the FAI, although it was a nuclear example.

;D ;D

"Apart from the alleged fraud, no allegations of fraud have been levelled against him"

Lets try again. What criminal offence(s) do you think he committed?

In my opinion the only one that might stick is paying the girlfriend a wage. But he won't do time for that, if it even gets as far as the Garda.


Haven't a clue and not overly bothered tbh.  Just thought that sentence was a cracker.

;D
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on February 03, 2020, 02:10:34 PM
I get you, but the point remains we are 6 months in, and the only thing potentially legally greasy is paying his mott.

I suspect more illegality is happening in Galway.
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: magpie seanie on February 06, 2020, 11:46:49 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 01, 2020, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2020, 09:21:48 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?

Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend

What government monies have the GAA mismanaged or wasted?

Do you think PuC looks like a €110m stadium?

It's undeniably a very fine stadium. Was budgeted to cost €86m but badly overran by €24m. Unusual for the GAA that a major project gets underestimated this badly but the overuns will be paid by the GAA. The government allocation remains at €30m as far as I know.

So that example doesn't qualify. Any others or are you bullshitting?
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Rossfan on February 06, 2020, 12:44:40 PM
His mantra is "Soccer good, Gah baaaad" so not much logic just "whataboutry" when the useless FAI gets rightly criticised.
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: rosnarun on February 06, 2020, 04:11:33 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Franko on January 31, 2020, 05:24:06 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 31, 2020, 07:17:22 AM
the government bailing out the FAI  again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences.  Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
He is being investigated by the OCDE.

The money to his partner aside, what fraud was committed, or is alleged? Bad management and corporate governance is not confined to the FAI, although it was a nuclear example.

;D ;D

"Apart from the alleged fraud, no allegations of fraud have been levelled against him"

Lets try again. What criminal offence(s) do you think he committed?

In my opinion the only one that might stick is paying the girlfriend a wage. But he won't do time for that, if it even gets as far as the Garda.

lets try an answer again
he may have led to an auditor to cover up the true financial state of the company he was running
and not declared certain payment that were liable for tax ,
they are the offences I would suspect him off
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: dublin7 on February 06, 2020, 04:35:52 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 06, 2020, 11:46:49 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 01, 2020, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2020, 09:21:48 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?

Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend

What government monies have the GAA mismanaged or wasted?

Do you think PuC looks like a €110m stadium?

It's undeniably a very fine stadium. Was budgeted to cost €86m but badly overran by €24m. Unusual for the GAA that a major project gets underestimated this badly but the overuns will be paid by the GAA. The government allocation remains at €30m as far as I know.

So that example doesn't qualify. Any others or are you bullshitting?

Soccer is massively underfunded in this country. Greyhound industry for example got €16m last year compared to €2.8m for soccer from government.  Yet another example of how inept FAI officials have been at lobbying for funding.

If the Government hadn't given the FAI a bailout they'd have lost the Euros in the summer and Ireland wouldn't be allowed field a senior international side. They'll get the €5m back this year through teams/fans visiting for the Euros and the country avoids embarrassment on a global scale 
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Main Street on February 06, 2020, 04:40:45 PM
Nothing like a good old fashioned Irish bail out to raise the resentment and envy levels of other Irish.

The total bailout figure mentioned  was about Eur 25m, to be paid out over 3 years.
That figure includes the annual grant (5.8m) paid to the FAI  each year for the next 3 years.
and an annual loan 2.54m  for the next 3 years.
The loaned money to start to be repayed after 2024.

The "extra" element in the bail out  is that the loan is interest free and there is some raise in the level of the annual grant.
I don't think I'd call it the full bail out,  just a bit of a bail out.
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: seafoid on February 06, 2020, 04:49:56 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2020, 09:21:48 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 31, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?

Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend

What government monies have the GAA mismanaged or wasted?
They probably gave money to the redevelopment of Pairc na Gaoithe in Salthill.
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Main Street on February 08, 2020, 11:41:24 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on February 08, 2020, 10:03:50 AM
DJ got the P45 from the missus. There be no more shagging in toilets at clubhouse do's.
Are you referring to the ex and the long standing divorce proceedings or to his partnership with Emma?
Either way, does it matter? there is more enough evidence against JD as a corrupt FAI CEO, without the need to add toilet humour to embelish it.

Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Gael85 on June 01, 2020, 09:20:28 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/McDonnellDan/status/1267507561978363907
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Ed Ricketts on November 10, 2020, 12:48:16 AM
This was worth a watch tonight:
www.rte.ie/player/movie/the-john-delaney-story/162105896088

And this is excellent if you want a bit more depth on just how much of an absolutely massive p***k the man is:
www.penguin.co.uk/books/318/318907/champagne-football/9781844884933.html

Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: bennydorano on November 10, 2020, 08:07:25 AM
Reading the book atm funny enough, only about a 3rd of the way in, Snakeoil salesman.
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: macker15 on February 26, 2021, 10:02:36 PM
John Delaney is something else

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/john-delaney-seeks-to-have-court-application-heard-in-camera-1087025.html
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: macker15 on May 12, 2021, 06:13:10 PM
I believe John has new lady friend.
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: general_lee on May 12, 2021, 07:10:27 PM
Quote from: macker15 on May 12, 2021, 06:13:10 PM
I believe John has new lady friend.
Wayne Lineker wouldn't get a look in
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: Saffrongael on May 12, 2021, 07:24:21 PM
Quote from: macker15 on May 12, 2021, 06:13:10 PM
I believe John has new lady friend.

I think that photo was photo shopped
Title: Re: John Delaney
Post by: rodney trotter on May 12, 2021, 07:49:28 PM
Yes it's a Photoshop. His big head looks out of place on the shoulders