Mc Creesh Park Newry.Will it no longer exist after tonight?

Started by T Fearon, March 02, 2015, 06:47:33 PM

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Eamonnca1

The problem with Irish is it's left too late to start teaching it. If it were taught in primary school from the age of about 5 the language would be in much better shape. Starting to learn a language after the age of ten is a hundred times harder, so it's no wonder most people pack it in at the first opportunity.

Wildweasel74

I did Irish in relation to translating the names for the football team sheets for years but that's as far as it got, too many lads these days have names you couldn't translate into Irish.

armaghniac

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 03, 2015, 12:29:13 AM
Oh learning Irish doesn't make me feel anymore Irish, except when i got lost in Galway when all the signs were in Irish years ago. The school i was at nearly all the pupils dropped Irish after 3rd year, no body wanted to learn it, then again we didn't want to learn Spanish or french either to be honest, But i find lets put the Irish language first on all signs in certain councils childish, Does it make u feel anymore Irish. Just the way all you die hard Irish supporters support English soccer teams, hardly supporting Irish roots,

Whatever your opinion, there are people who would like the proper version of placenames etc and there is no reason for unionists to find this objectionable, so it should not be conflated with the McCreesh park issue.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 03, 2015, 12:32:27 AM
The problem with Irish is it's left too late to start teaching it. If it were taught in primary school from the age of about 5 the language would be in much better shape. Starting to learn a language after the age of ten is a hundred times harder, so it's no wonder most people pack it in at the first opportunity.
You can catch up via an intensive programme watching sport on TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBWhJUh7wPk

deiseach

I'm sure the new alliance of the Catholic Church and the DUP will rally round to . . . how was that meant to work again?

brokencrossbar1

I don't agree with naming a play park after anyone no matter who they are. It's a bloody play park!!!  But it has been called this for 14 years now so you have to really question why bother at this stage. As for the Uncle Andy interpretive centre, don't get me started on those boyos!!! Give my head peace :P

thewobbler

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 03, 2015, 12:32:27 AM
The problem with Irish is it's left too late to start teaching it. If it were taught in primary school from the age of about 5 the language would be in much better shape. Starting to learn a language after the age of ten is a hundred times harder, so it's no wonder most people pack it in at the first opportunity.

This isn't the problem.

The problem with Irish is that there is not one single human being on earth who speaks Irish, who doesn't also speak English equally well or better.

Therefore doing anything - website, road sign, leaflet, minutes - in both languages is an unnecessary duplication, and a thorough waste of money.

By all means our Gaielegors are entitled to enjoy their cupla focal. But for the 99.9991% of us who will always read a sign in English first, stop wasting our effing money on this duplication.

Ulick

Quote from: thewobbler on March 03, 2015, 09:58:23 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 03, 2015, 12:32:27 AM
The problem with Irish is it's left too late to start teaching it. If it were taught in primary school from the age of about 5 the language would be in much better shape. Starting to learn a language after the age of ten is a hundred times harder, so it's no wonder most people pack it in at the first opportunity.

This isn't the problem.

The problem with Irish is that there is not one single human being on earth who speaks Irish, who doesn't also speak English equally well or better.

Therefore doing anything - website, road sign, leaflet, minutes - in both languages is an unnecessary duplication, and a thorough waste of money.

By all means our Gaielegors are entitled to enjoy their cupla focal. But for the 99.9991% of us who will always read a sign in English first, stop wasting our effing money on this duplication.

I agree totally. Best thing to do would be to have one school in each town to which all children in the area should be sent. No more of duplication of services by having schools all over the place. Oh and the first language of the new schools would be Irish - thereby your concerns would be address - as there would be no more duplication and after a few generations everyone would speak Irish fluently. 

Ulick

The only thing you need to know about this contrived controversy, the UDR memorial in the middle of Lisburn erected by Unionist councillors and paid for by all ratepayers in the area.






armaghniac

There is nobody who can play Gaelic football who cannot also play soccer, why are we bothering with it?
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

AZOffaly

Quote from: Ulick on March 03, 2015, 10:20:14 AM
The only thing you need to know about this contrived controversy, the UDR memorial in the middle of Lisburn erected by Unionist councillors and paid for by all ratepayers in the area.







That UDR guy is a Liverpool fan?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AZOffaly on March 03, 2015, 01:11:08 PM
Quote from: Ulick on March 03, 2015, 10:20:14 AM
The only thing you need to know about this contrived controversy, the UDR memorial in the middle of Lisburn erected by Unionist councillors and paid for by all ratepayers in the area.







That UDR guy is a Liverpool fan?

More than likely as Everton is the only Catholic club in Liverpool  ;)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

AZOffaly


seafoid

Quote from: thewobbler on March 03, 2015, 09:58:23 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 03, 2015, 12:32:27 AM
The problem with Irish is it's left too late to start teaching it. If it were taught in primary school from the age of about 5 the language would be in much better shape. Starting to learn a language after the age of ten is a hundred times harder, so it's no wonder most people pack it in at the first opportunity.

This isn't the problem.

The problem with Irish is that there is not one single human being on earth who speaks Irish, who doesn't also speak English equally well or better.

Therefore doing anything - website, road sign, leaflet, minutes - in both languages is an unnecessary duplication, and a thorough waste of money.

By all means our Gaielegors are entitled to enjoy their cupla focal. But for the 99.9991% of us who will always read a sign in English first, stop wasting our effing money on this duplication.
It's about identity. Northern Irish road signs are shite- as if all the names came from English.
Bilingual signs carry more information and the cost is negligible .
If you want to save real money cut pensions. ;)

2 unsustainable trends in UK spending are health and pensions

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on March 03, 2015, 01:38:49 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 03, 2015, 09:58:23 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 03, 2015, 12:32:27 AM
The problem with Irish is it's left too late to start teaching it. If it were taught in primary school from the age of about 5 the language would be in much better shape. Starting to learn a language after the age of ten is a hundred times harder, so it's no wonder most people pack it in at the first opportunity.

This isn't the problem.

The problem with Irish is that there is not one single human being on earth who speaks Irish, who doesn't also speak English equally well or better.

Therefore doing anything - website, road sign, leaflet, minutes - in both languages is an unnecessary duplication, and a thorough waste of money.

By all means our Gaielegors are entitled to enjoy their cupla focal. But for the 99.9991% of us who will always read a sign in English first, stop wasting our effing money on this duplication.
It's about identity. Northern Irish road signs are shite- as if all the names came from English.
Bilingual signs carry more information and the cost is negligible .
If you want to save real money cut pensions. ;)

2 unsustainable trends in UK spending are health and pensions

Which party is going to take that on? Never going to happen wholesale but bound to be reductions in various areas of Health and a reduction in pensions, most companies have to have a scheme of sorts for their employees. It will end up in happening but very stealthy
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea