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Title: The far right
Post by: seafoid on March 28, 2024, 09:32:00 PM
Far right parties are expected to gain significantly in this year's Euro elections. The Far right uses emotion to wind up voters and never fixes anything. European Far right politicians such as Le Pen, Wilders and Orban specialise in conspiracy theories and gaslighting  and target ignorant voters . They are all anti immigrant, anti climate action and pro Russia.  They are much better at politics than right wing politicians.   The North has had the far right for a very long time in the form of the DUP.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: From the Bunker on March 29, 2024, 09:06:47 AM
Who is the Far Right in the Republic?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 10:34:24 AM
its the biggest election in the history of the republic
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2024, 11:17:40 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 10:34:24 AMits the biggest election in the history of the republic

Bigger than the first election?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 11:32:43 AM
yes it will determine if the right wing insurgency is real or not
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: screenexile on March 29, 2024, 11:37:09 AM
European elections seem to lend themselves to the far right. I don't think it's the biggest election in Ireland's history, being elected to Europe doesn't mean a pile there's no power there really for an MEP.

How they get on in the next General Election will tell a tale as to where the country is at!
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 11:46:08 AM
i am talking about local elections if far right people can get on county council meeting they can cause major disruption
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: JoG2 on March 29, 2024, 11:51:29 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 10:34:24 AMits the biggest election in the history of the republic

Surely you don't believe the sh1t you type? Surely!  :-X
Quote from: screenexile on March 29, 2024, 11:37:09 AMEuropean elections seem to lend themselves to the far right. I don't think it's the biggest election in Ireland's history, being elected to Europe doesn't mean a pile there's no power there really for an MEP.

How they get on in the next General Election will tell a tale as to where the country is at!

Couple of hundred votes be enough?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: whitey on March 29, 2024, 12:36:52 PM
Would Aontu be considered far right?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on March 29, 2024, 12:41:57 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 11:46:08 AMi am talking about local elections if far right people can get on county council meeting they can cause major disruption
How exactly?
Vote no to everything? They'll be a minority of loudmouth thicks.
Burn the Council Chambers?
Blockade the Council offices?
Murder all the other Councillors?
Murder all the Council workers?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 02:49:28 PM
yes they will be a minorityt but with a a seat at the meetings they can be very disruptive
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: JoG2 on March 29, 2024, 02:54:49 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 02:49:28 PMyes they will be a minorityt but with a a seat at the meetings they can be very disruptive

OK.. In 4 or 5 bullet points, how can a lone right wing minority  councillor be disruptive?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 03:44:53 PM
by shouting and screaming being loud lol
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: seafoid on March 29, 2024, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 29, 2024, 09:06:47 AMWho is the Far Right in the Republic?
According to the Irish Times there are 5 far right groups mar dhea in gestation. One of them is linked to Michael Fitzmaurice. The issues are farmer grievances like resistance to climate action and demands for  turf cutting rights plus opposition to the EU.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 08:11:41 PM
chances of john waters getting elected.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: From the Bunker on March 29, 2024, 08:21:00 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 08:11:41 PMchances of john waters getting elected.

It'd be no harm. The amount of TD's swimming with this sh*tty tide is depressing. Dail needs a shake up.
We've had no opposition for some time now. Not since the Banking crash. And our press and media are handcuffed by being subsidised by the Government.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: burdizzo on March 29, 2024, 08:28:13 PM
Thought he was standing in the Euros? I'd like to be wrong, but I'd say his chances are small.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Itchy on March 29, 2024, 08:38:13 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on March 29, 2024, 08:11:41 PMchances of john waters getting elected.

Oh yeh, a massive chance 😂. But him and his psycho buddy Gemma have a few problems of their own to resolve first
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: clarshack on March 29, 2024, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 28, 2024, 09:32:00 PMFar right parties are expected to gain significantly in this year's Euro elections. The Far right uses emotion to wind up voters and never fixes anything. European Far right politicians such as Le Pen, Wilders and Orban specialise in conspiracy theories and gaslighting  and target ignorant voters . They are all anti immigrant, anti climate action and pro Russia.  They are much better at politics than right wing politicians.   The North has had the far right for a very long time in the form of the DUP.

Came across this earlier:
https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/6852/seats-held-by-far-right-parties-in-europe/
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Eire90 on March 30, 2024, 05:56:49 AM
did gemma and john fall out
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: seafoid on March 30, 2024, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: clarshack on March 29, 2024, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 28, 2024, 09:32:00 PMFar right parties are expected to gain significantly in this year's Euro elections. The Far right uses emotion to wind up voters and never fixes anything. European Far right politicians such as Le Pen, Wilders and Orban specialise in conspiracy theories and gaslighting  and target ignorant voters . They are all anti immigrant, anti climate action and pro Russia.  They are much better at politics than right wing politicians.   The North has had the far right for a very long time in the form of the DUP.

Came across this earlier:
https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/6852/seats-held-by-far-right-parties-in-europe/
that is a great link
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AM
nial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: HiMucker on March 31, 2024, 10:45:40 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AMnial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
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Quote from: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AMnial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
He's hardly done that well, when his supporters can't even spell his name. A complete grifter.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on March 31, 2024, 11:03:46 AM
A disgusting sc**bag if ever there was one.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on March 31, 2024, 10:45:40 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AMnial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
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Quote from: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AMnial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
He's hardly done that well, when his supporters can't even spell his name. A complete grifter.


where did i say i support niall mcconnel please show me where i said support mcconnel or anyone think you got the wrong end of the stick  and i dont care about his name
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: RedHand88 on March 31, 2024, 12:48:19 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on March 31, 2024, 10:45:40 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AMnial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
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Quote from: Eire90 on March 31, 2024, 07:32:05 AMnial mcconnel was out canvassing in ballybofey yesterday he got a very positive reception
He's hardly done that well, when his supporters can't even spell his name. A complete grifter.


That video where he was called a bad egg is fantastic.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Eire90 on April 03, 2024, 07:53:52 PM
fergus power arrested yesterday after going into a cafe and screaming about migrants there is meme going around of some aul fella laughing at fergus power and one of his accomplices  even some right wing outlets power went to far


https://twitter.com/IrishRebel1965/status/1775221455791218978
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 03, 2024, 08:31:16 PM
 ;D  ;D
About time the Law was used against those scum.
No doubt free legal aid.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Itchy on April 04, 2024, 09:17:16 AM
That was funny. As said above, let's see more of guards out dragging these scumbags off to a prison cell.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 04, 2024, 10:14:55 AM
And stop their dole as they obviously aren't available for work.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Eire90 on April 24, 2024, 12:14:23 PM
dont know if you can describe him as far right but nial boyalan announces hes running for European election.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Eire90 on April 24, 2024, 12:27:01 PM
https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1782867145300365459
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: whitey on April 24, 2024, 04:46:59 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2024, 12:14:23 PMdont know if you can describe him as far right but nial boyalan announces hes running for European election.

What would your definition of far right be?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: armaghniac on April 24, 2024, 05:08:54 PM
This
is
a
far
right
post
.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: seafoid on April 24, 2024, 05:25:45 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 24, 2024, 04:46:59 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2024, 12:14:23 PMdont know if you can describe him as far right but nial boyalan announces hes running for European election.

What would your definition of far right be?
mine is


Anti climate action
Pro plutocracy.
anti women
Violent
Report to Putin.
Very noisy
Never solve problems.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: thewobbler on April 24, 2024, 05:30:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 24, 2024, 05:25:45 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 24, 2024, 04:46:59 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2024, 12:14:23 PMdont know if you can describe him as far right but nial boyalan announces hes running for European election.

What would your definition of far right be?
mine is


Anti climate action
Pro plutocracy.
anti women
Violent
Report to Putin.
Very noisy
Never solve problems.


Is anti climate action not an outlier among that?

Is it okay to disbelieve all/any other government messaging and policies... just not climate change?

——

I'm not anti climate action by the way. I just don't understand how it can be right wing to be that way.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: seafoid on April 24, 2024, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 24, 2024, 05:30:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 24, 2024, 05:25:45 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 24, 2024, 04:46:59 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2024, 12:14:23 PMdont know if you can describe him as far right but nial boyalan announces hes running for European election.

What would your definition of far right be?
mine is


Anti climate action
Pro plutocracy.
anti women
Violent
Report to Putin.
Very noisy
Never solve problems.


Is anti climate action not an outlier among that?

Is it okay to disbelieve all/any other government messaging and policies... just not climate change?

——

I'm not anti climate action by the way. I just don't understand how it can be right wing to be that way.
They all beguile Farmer's into believing that  that climate action is ruining
Quote from: thewobbler on April 24, 2024, 05:30:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 24, 2024, 05:25:45 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 24, 2024, 04:46:59 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2024, 12:14:23 PMdont know if you can describe him as far right but nial boyalan announces hes running for European election.

What would your definition of far right be?
mine is


Anti climate action
Pro plutocracy.
anti women
Violent
Report to Putin.
Very noisy
Never solve problems.


Is anti climate action not an outlier among that?

Is it okay to disbelieve all/any other government messaging and policies... just not climate change?

——

I'm not anti climate action by the way. I just don't understand how it can be right wing to be that way.

They all have the same menu of policies. They are all led by demagogues who are liars.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AM
Anti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.

Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 25, 2024, 09:09:58 AM
Wave tricolour, spout about being Irish Patriots, haven't a word of Gaeilge.
Don't work. Don't wash too often by the look of them.
All vehemently anti abortion presumably to get funds from US.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: tonto1888 on April 25, 2024, 09:10:53 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AMAnti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.

Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.

only care about women being killed if the killer is a non irish national
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: general_lee on April 25, 2024, 09:54:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 25, 2024, 09:09:58 AMWave tricolour, spout about being Irish Patriots, haven't a word of Gaeilge.
Don't work. Don't wash too often by the look of them.
All vehemently anti abortion presumably to get funds from US.
Ivory Coast flag you mean.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Captain Scarlet on April 25, 2024, 10:43:39 AM
A key thing is to be a hypocrite too.
Call others snowflakes but then any perceived slight has them spiralling.

Not in Ireland but in the USA they will go nuts about the 1st Amendment but then when students protest over Gaza they call in the riot squad. Make up your mind lads...

A small few make a LOT of noise but they won't get their deposits back when it comes to the elections. It's a tiny minority on tour.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 25, 2024, 11:11:48 AM
See apparently this morning, that 80% of blow ins come in from Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 25, 2024, 11:27:37 AM
If Larne is the first thing you see.....
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: seafoid on April 25, 2024, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AMAnti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.

Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
The far right leader tells lies to people he knows are stupid.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2024, 11:56:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 25, 2024, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AMAnti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.

Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
The far right leader tells lies to people he knows are stupid.

I thought that tactic is standard across the world. People buy into that every time come elections
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: whitey on April 25, 2024, 04:16:36 PM
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp


So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: thewobbler on April 25, 2024, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2024, 11:56:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 25, 2024, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AMAnti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.

Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
The far right leader tells lies to people he knows are stupid.

I thought that tactic is standard across the world. People buy into that every time come elections

It would be easy to suggest that this was the core tactic of DUP and Sinn Fein to usurp SDLP and UUP, and has been a staple tactic since.

Surely both those parties cannot be far right?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 05:37:57 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 25, 2024, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2024, 11:56:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 25, 2024, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AMAnti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.

Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
The far right leader tells lies to people he knows are stupid.

I thought that tactic is standard across the world. People buy into that every time come elections

It would be easy to suggest that this was the core tactic of DUP and Sinn Fein to usurp SDLP and UUP, and has been a staple tactic since.

Surely both those parties cannot be far right?

Or that FG tell you lies about the houses they will build but don't. But of course that's not the same thing and you know it.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: David McKeown on April 25, 2024, 07:38:37 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 25, 2024, 04:16:36 PMhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp


So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?

All I say is there was a famous case last year where an asylum seeker in Belfast had his claim for asylum refused at first instance.  The reason for his refusal was he had claimed he would be persecuted in his home country because he was involved in guerrilla warfare.  The Home Office rejected that this would entitle him to asylum because 'gorillas are an endangered species' and fighting them shouldn't allow him to claim asylum.

So id at least like appeals to be dealt with first
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 25, 2024, 11:31:15 PM
The nazifascists being taken on at last.
12 months too late.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/three-arrested-and-fire-burns-as-garda-public-order-unit-deployed-to-site-slated-to-house-asylum-seekers-in-wicklow/a1618585359.html
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: tonto1888 on April 26, 2024, 07:17:27 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 25, 2024, 07:38:37 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 25, 2024, 04:16:36 PMhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp


So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?

All I say is there was a famous case last year where an asylum seeker in Belfast had his claim for asylum refused at first instance.  The reason for his refusal was he had claimed he would be persecuted in his home country because he was involved in guerrilla warfare.  The Home Office rejected that this would entitle him to asylum because 'gorillas are an endangered species' and fighting them shouldn't allow him to claim asylum.

So id at least like appeals to be dealt with first

is this true?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: tonto1888 on April 26, 2024, 07:21:33 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 25, 2024, 11:11:48 AMSee apparently this morning, that 80% of blow ins come in from Northern Ireland.

Id like to see where she got that figure from
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: imtommygunn on April 26, 2024, 07:27:11 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 26, 2024, 07:17:27 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 25, 2024, 07:38:37 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 25, 2024, 04:16:36 PMhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp


So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?

All I say is there was a famous case last year where an asylum seeker in Belfast had his claim for asylum refused at first instance.  The reason for his refusal was he had claimed he would be persecuted in his home country because he was involved in guerrilla warfare.  The Home Office rejected that this would entitle him to asylum because 'gorillas are an endangered species' and fighting them shouldn't allow him to claim asylum.

So id at least like appeals to be dealt with first

is this true?
Quote from: David McKeown on April 25, 2024, 07:38:37 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 25, 2024, 04:16:36 PMhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp


So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?

All I say is there was a famous case last year where an asylum seeker in Belfast had his claim for asylum refused at first instance.  The reason for his refusal was he had claimed he would be persecuted in his home country because he was involved in guerrilla warfare.  The Home Office rejected that this would entitle him to asylum because 'gorillas are an endangered species' and fighting them shouldn't allow him to claim asylum.

So id at least like appeals to be dealt with first

 ;D  ;D
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 26, 2024, 04:01:01 PM
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0426/1445812-josip-strok/

A decent man earning a living.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Armagh18 on April 26, 2024, 04:20:37 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 26, 2024, 04:01:01 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0426/1445812-josip-strok/

A decent man earning a living.
Read an interview with him the other day, absolutely awful, poor fellas.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: befair on April 26, 2024, 04:38:58 PM
We should treat immigrants like we'd want our own diaspora to be treated. During the Great Hunger, >1 million Irish were refugees (>1 million died).
Above all other nations, we have reason to be generous + hospitable.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: armaghniac on April 26, 2024, 04:53:17 PM
Quote from: befair on April 26, 2024, 04:38:58 PMWe should treat immigrants like we'd want our own diaspora to be treated. During the Great Hunger, >1 million Irish were refugees (>1 million died).
Above all other nations, we have reason to be generous + hospitable.

We should, but we cannot take one billion people.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 26, 2024, 05:37:50 PM
Nobody's asking us to
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: armaghniac on April 26, 2024, 06:58:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 26, 2024, 05:37:50 PMNobody's asking us to

OK, so how many are we expected to take?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: thebigfella on April 26, 2024, 07:04:35 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 26, 2024, 06:58:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 26, 2024, 05:37:50 PMNobody's asking us to

OK, so how many are we expected to take?

I thought you were taking none and instead shipping to 🇷🇼 ?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: burdizzo on April 26, 2024, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 26, 2024, 07:04:35 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 26, 2024, 06:58:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 26, 2024, 05:37:50 PMNobody's asking us to

OK, so how many are we expected to take?

I thought you were taking none and instead shipping to 🇷🇼 ?

What a red herring. Where does it end? Come on, tell us.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: trueblue1234 on April 26, 2024, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on April 26, 2024, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 26, 2024, 07:04:35 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 26, 2024, 06:58:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 26, 2024, 05:37:50 PMNobody's asking us to

OK, so how many are we expected to take?

I thought you were taking none and instead shipping to 🇷🇼 ?

What a red herring. Where does it end? Come on, tell us.
Where does it start? Are you saying we should be taking none? I'm assuming you're not that big a boll!x and that you are happy to take some. So what's the limit? How many is too many for you?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: David McKeown on April 26, 2024, 08:28:59 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 26, 2024, 07:17:27 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 25, 2024, 07:38:37 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 25, 2024, 04:16:36 PMhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp


So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?

All I say is there was a famous case last year where an asylum seeker in Belfast had his claim for asylum refused at first instance.  The reason for his refusal was he had claimed he would be persecuted in his home country because he was involved in guerrilla warfare.  The Home Office rejected that this would entitle him to asylum because 'gorillas are an endangered species' and fighting them shouldn't allow him to claim asylum.

So id at least like appeals to be dealt with first

is this true?

Yes genuine cases involving a couple of my friends about 15 months ago
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 27, 2024, 08:53:21 AM
12 months too late but better than never I suppose

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41383141.html

Title: Re: The far right
Post by: clarshack on April 27, 2024, 04:59:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 27, 2024, 08:53:21 AM12 months too late but better than never I suppose

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41383141.html



There's no doubt that an element of proper Far Right will try and infiltrate protests but just seen a clip of the residents of Newtown Mount Kennedy marching and it's a seriously large group of people. Are all those people 'Nazifascist'? Are they the ones that have blocked access to the local GAA pitch?

It also didn't look good the other night when Drew Harris's Riot Squad were intimidating people on their own property, it was like the troubles had moved to Wicklow.

Sorry state of affairs all around and it's the Irish Government that are completely to blame for creating this mess.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Lubo Moravcik on April 27, 2024, 05:29:25 PM
Quote from: clarshack on April 27, 2024, 04:59:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 27, 2024, 08:53:21 AM12 months too late but better than never I suppose

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41383141.html



There's no doubt that an element of proper Far Right will try and infiltrate protests but just seen a clip of the residents of Newtown Mount Kennedy marching and it's a seriously large group of people. Are all those people 'Nazifascist'? Are they the ones that have blocked access to the local GAA pitch?

It also didn't look good the other night when Drew Harris's Riot Squad were intimidating people on their own property, it was like the troubles had moved to Wicklow.

Sorry state of affairs all around and it's the Irish Government that are completely to blame for creating this mess.

Do these people seriously think they are being 'replaced'?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 27, 2024, 07:26:38 PM
Be no harm if they were replaced by decent humans.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 27, 2024, 07:29:33 PM
Quote from: clarshack on April 27, 2024, 04:59:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 27, 2024, 08:53:21 AM12 months too late but better than never I suppose

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41383141.html



There's no doubt that an element of proper Far Right will try and infiltrate protests but just seen a clip of the residents of Newtown Mount Kennedy marching and it's a seriously large group of people. Are all those people 'Nazifascist'? Are they the ones that have blocked access to the local GAA pitch?

It also didn't look good the other night when Drew Harris's Riot Squad were intimidating people on their own property, it was like the troubles had moved to Wicklow.

Sorry state of affairs all around and it's the Irish Government that are completely to blame for creating this mess.

Some sc**bag attacks a squad car with an axe and its all the Government's fault????
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: reddgnhand on April 27, 2024, 09:02:03 PM
There was over 20000 foreigners armed to the teeth in the north for years don't remember any of these far right groups about then.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: burdizzo on April 28, 2024, 06:48:03 AM
Quote from: reddgnhand on April 27, 2024, 09:02:03 PMThere was over 20000 foreigners armed to the teeth in the north for years don't remember any of these far right groups about then.

Most people assumed SF/IRA were nationalist. Turns out not to have been so.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 28, 2024, 08:29:29 AM
Quote from: reddgnhand on April 27, 2024, 09:02:03 PMThere was over 20000 foreigners armed to the teeth in the north for years don't remember any of these far right groups about then.

1 As bullies and thugs they'd be afraid of their sh1te of them
2 They'd see them as their allies
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: tonto1888 on April 29, 2024, 07:49:17 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on April 28, 2024, 06:48:03 AM
Quote from: reddgnhand on April 27, 2024, 09:02:03 PMThere was over 20000 foreigners armed to the teeth in the north for years don't remember any of these far right groups about then.

Most people assumed SF/IRA were nationalist. Turns out not to have been so.

did this make sense in your head?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 29, 2024, 10:37:46 AM
It would to those fktards who think Nationalism is the Continental Nazifascist version which says no foreigners should be allowed into a Country.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: burdizzo on April 29, 2024, 12:54:03 PM
Whereas as antifa "fktards" think Ireland should be open and provide for all comers? Yay!
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Truthsayer on April 29, 2024, 01:35:29 PM
A lot of this is a cover for blatant racism going about wrapped in tricolours them pure fascists being backed by Tommy Robinson and his ilk.
I see Athletics Ireland had to turn off a post yesterday when Rhasadat Adeleke broke a national record as these neanderthals turned their hatred on her because she is black.
Born in Dublin ffs! (not that anyone should be abused wherever they came from).
She is a wonderful ambassador for Ireland while her abusers could hardly spell their own names. Total scumbags... 
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 29, 2024, 03:16:13 PM
Absolute filth
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Lubo Moravcik on April 29, 2024, 08:00:14 PM
https://x.com/tvcritics/status/1784967221548122389?s=46

The state of this lot!
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: seafoid on April 29, 2024, 08:28:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2024, 11:56:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 25, 2024, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 25, 2024, 08:52:24 AMAnti everything, blame foreigners for all their personal problems, never take responsibility for anything, never solve anything. Most importantly, pretend they care about ireland, citizens, women etc - when they dont.

Most of them would be low down the IQ level and easily manipulated by a few semi intelligent but evil people.
The far right leader tells lies to people he knows are stupid.

I thought that tactic is standard across the world. People buy into that every time come elections
Someone once said that if voting changed anything it would be outlawed.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Last Man on April 30, 2024, 05:22:21 AM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cExSN3bvSk0&si=YoFUFFsXpGRuVsaZ

I wonder what the Far Right opinion is in relation to this immigrant medic?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Itchy on April 30, 2024, 07:35:14 PM
In my local town after a couple of yrs with refugees and no issues a local sc**bag has gone around plastering the place with posters and camping outside a builders house, breaking windows, smashing cars. Guards finally lifted him, allowed him to video himself in their car and giggled along with his jokes. The biggest issue at moment is inaction of authorities allowing a complete inbred sc**bag to become some sort of robin hood in the eyes of the thickos that follow him.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on April 30, 2024, 08:08:43 PM
The scum are setting the agenda and making all the running.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: snoopdog on May 01, 2024, 09:06:36 AM
Social media is proving to be one of the worst inventions of all time. It does much more harm than good.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: JoG2 on May 01, 2024, 09:33:10 AM
Quote from: snoopdog on May 01, 2024, 09:06:36 AMSocial media is proving to be one of the worst inventions of all time. It does much more harm than good.

110%. Rats running onto this paticular ship
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: imtommygunn on May 01, 2024, 10:04:14 AM
Tends to be twitter I think. But for twitter there'd be no Jamie Bryson and I don't think there'd be the rise there is in the south either.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: JoG2 on May 01, 2024, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 01, 2024, 10:04:14 AMTends to be twitter I think. But for twitter there'd be no Jamie Bryson and I don't think there'd be the rise there is in the south either.

At least Bryson isn't hiding behind a fake name like 99.9% of the hate filled bastids on there are

Just listened to part 3 of the Christy Moore interview on Free State.. He was talking about these online 'patriots' who are seemingly afraid of nothing, but using their own names
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2024, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 01, 2024, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 01, 2024, 10:04:14 AMTends to be twitter I think. But for twitter there'd be no Jamie Bryson and I don't think there'd be the rise there is in the south either.

At least Bryson isn't hiding behind a fake name like 99.9% of the hate filled bastids on there are

When will people catch about twitter? Like I know I've umpteen posts on here, but that's my limit, of social media, when someone talks to me about what they seen on twitter or some said this on TikTok I'm immediately rolling my eyes and wanting to bash their heads in

Will Twitter and the like get worst or will it die a death? 

Title: Re: The far right
Post by: tonto1888 on May 01, 2024, 12:43:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2024, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 01, 2024, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 01, 2024, 10:04:14 AMTends to be twitter I think. But for twitter there'd be no Jamie Bryson and I don't think there'd be the rise there is in the south either.

At least Bryson isn't hiding behind a fake name like 99.9% of the hate filled bastids on there are

When will people catch about twitter? Like I know I've umpteen posts on here, but that's my limit, of social media, when someone talks to me about what they seen on twitter or some said this on TikTok I'm immediately rolling my eyes and wanting to bash their heads in

Will Twitter and the like get worst or will it die a death? 



It won't die. I do like Twitter but it can be a cesspit. I block loads of people who get in the way of important things like GAA and NBA news etc
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Itchy on May 01, 2024, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 01, 2024, 12:43:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2024, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 01, 2024, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 01, 2024, 10:04:14 AMTends to be twitter I think. But for twitter there'd be no Jamie Bryson and I don't think there'd be the rise there is in the south either.

At least Bryson isn't hiding behind a fake name like 99.9% of the hate filled bastids on there are

When will people catch about twitter? Like I know I've umpteen posts on here, but that's my limit, of social media, when someone talks to me about what they seen on twitter or some said this on TikTok I'm immediately rolling my eyes and wanting to bash their heads in

Will Twitter and the like get worst or will it die a death? 



It won't die. I do like Twitter but it can be a cesspit. I block loads of people who get in the way of important things like GAA and NBA news etc

One of the biggest issues with Twitter is if you interact with one of these scumbags, call them out or whatever, your feed will become full of the same shite. You are best to block and ignore anything Far Right and keep your stream of posts clean.

Good point made by Christy, the lack of a name shows these guys for what they are and indeed the homo-erotic image of Colin McGregor leading a band of "patriots" behind him into some sort of war is the most ridiculous thing I ever saw.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Itchy on May 03, 2024, 01:18:13 PM
This says a lot, fascist yanks with nothing to do with Ireland trying to push their right wing agenda onto us

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-half-of-social-media-posts-about-wicklow-anti-asylum-protest-were-from-us-analysis-finds/a1068312180.html
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: whitey on May 03, 2024, 01:38:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 03, 2024, 01:18:13 PMThis says a lot, fascist yanks with nothing to do with Ireland trying to push their right wing agenda onto us

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-half-of-social-media-posts-about-wicklow-anti-asylum-protest-were-from-us-analysis-finds/a1068312180.html


You realize Twitter isn't real life?

A couple of right wing US political commentators (with millions of followers) highlight the fact Ireland doesn't enforce its own immigration laws.

This then gets retweeted/shared/liked by a fraction of a fraction of 1% of the people who saw it.

And you use this "datapoint" to deligitimize peoples valid concerns (which BTW were shared by a sitting FF TD and European candidate yesterday)

And his comments are up in the FF website, so obviously the party (who are in Government) agree with his views to some extent

https://www.fiannafail.ie/news/cowen-demands-enforcement-of-immigration-laws?hs_amp=true

Are Fianna Fail far right?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2024, 02:18:29 PM
Twitter isn't real life but the dumbfucks that believe everything in it are real

They have said AI will be uncontrollable (even more so) during these elections coming up in the UK and the US

Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Rossfan on May 03, 2024, 03:55:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 03, 2024, 01:18:13 PMThis says a lot, fascist yanks with nothing to do with Ireland trying to push their right wing agenda onto us

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-half-of-social-media-posts-about-wicklow-anti-asylum-protest-were-from-us-analysis-finds/a1068312180.html


And the cnut outside Harris' home with a placard "Eire(sic) won't allow rule by EU puppets"

Tell me you're English/Nordie Loyalist without telling me....
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Itchy on May 03, 2024, 04:27:43 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 03, 2024, 01:38:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 03, 2024, 01:18:13 PMThis says a lot, fascist yanks with nothing to do with Ireland trying to push their right wing agenda onto us

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-half-of-social-media-posts-about-wicklow-anti-asylum-protest-were-from-us-analysis-finds/a1068312180.html


You realize Twitter isn't real life?

A couple of right wing US political commentators (with millions of followers) highlight the fact Ireland doesn't enforce its own immigration laws.

This then gets retweeted/shared/liked by a fraction of a fraction of 1% of the people who saw it.

And you use this "datapoint" to deligitimize peoples valid concerns (which BTW were shared by a sitting FF TD and European candidate yesterday)

And his comments are up in the FF website, so obviously the party (who are in Government) agree with his views to some extent

https://www.fiannafail.ie/news/cowen-demands-enforcement-of-immigration-laws?hs_amp=true

Are Fianna Fail far right?


Did it hurt you that one, you show up as a yank in the assessment above
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: whitey on May 03, 2024, 04:43:36 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 03, 2024, 04:27:43 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 03, 2024, 01:38:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 03, 2024, 01:18:13 PMThis says a lot, fascist yanks with nothing to do with Ireland trying to push their right wing agenda onto us

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-half-of-social-media-posts-about-wicklow-anti-asylum-protest-were-from-us-analysis-finds/a1068312180.html


You realize Twitter isn't real life?

A couple of right wing US political commentators (with millions of followers) highlight the fact Ireland doesn't enforce its own immigration laws.

This then gets retweeted/shared/liked by a fraction of a fraction of 1% of the people who saw it.

And you use this "datapoint" to deligitimize peoples valid concerns (which BTW were shared by a sitting FF TD and European candidate yesterday)

And his comments are up in the FF website, so obviously the party (who are in Government) agree with his views to some extent

https://www.fiannafail.ie/news/cowen-demands-enforcement-of-immigration-laws?hs_amp=true

Are Fianna Fail far right?


Did it hurt you that one, you show up as a yank in the assessment above

Not in the least

Im an Irish Citizen so I'm just as entitled to my opinion as you are
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Brendan on May 05, 2024, 07:24:25 AM
Not sure which three is right for this but it seems pretty appropriate, does Linfield normally have such a colourful array of flags for their games are is it just because they were playing a "Catholic team"?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: marty34 on May 05, 2024, 07:52:14 AM
Quote from: Brendan on Today at 07:24:25 AMNot sure which three is right for this but it seems pretty appropriate, does Linfield normally have such a colourful array of flags for their games are is it just because they were playing a "Catholic team"?

They were sent packing regardless.

3rd goal, to finish it off, was great.
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: Brendan on May 05, 2024, 08:29:35 AM
Quote from: marty34 on Today at 07:52:14 AM
Quote from: Brendan on Today at 07:24:25 AMNot sure which three is right for this but it seems pretty appropriate, does Linfield normally have such a colourful array of flags for their games are is it just because they were playing a "Catholic team"?

They were sent packing regardless.

3rd goal, to finish it off, was great.

Fans should have been sent packing, can you really claim to be commemorating the 1913 UVF at a football match?
Title: Re: The far right
Post by: markl121 on May 05, 2024, 09:47:31 AM
Quote from: Brendan on Today at 08:29:35 AM
Quote from: marty34 on Today at 07:52:14 AM
Quote from: Brendan on Today at 07:24:25 AMNot sure which three is right for this but it seems pretty appropriate, does Linfield normally have such a colourful array of flags for their games are is it just because they were playing a "Catholic team"?

They were sent packing regardless.

3rd goal, to finish it off, was great.

Fans should have been sent packing, can you really claim to be commemorating the 1913 UVF at a football match?
A few years ago they had a jersey with the UVF colours. Umbro had to stop promoting it.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5704589/umbro-apologise-linfield-uvf-kit/amp/