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It was a bonkers appointment. He had achieved nothing to deserve the chance with a PL team. Rangers in a mickey Mouse farmers league. My 5 year old daughter could wint hat league. His personality is dour and uninspiring. This was evident in his man management skills and his handling of Tyrone Mings. Liverpool would have won multiple PLs if he wasn't their captain that's how bad of a leader he was. He'll probably get another chance somewhere else but it will likewise be a disaster - hopefully Liverpool. Slán Slippy.

[seafoid]

Similar trajectory to big Frank, from a lower level challenge into a job he couldn't handle. How many of the top gaffers were dominant players ?

[Armagh18]

Similar trajectory to big Frank, from a lower level challenge into a job he couldn't handle. How many of the top gaffers were dominant players ?

Zidane the obvious one. Pep obviously a good player as well but can't think of too many more.

Rooney seemed to do really well with Derby considering the financial state they were in, I think he's back in the US now with Washington, no idea how thats going.

I think a big help to the likes of Lampard, Gerard and Rooney is that when they go to smaller clubs like Rangers, Derby etc the players know they're going to in the spotlight a lot more given the managers profile and they probably up their game that extra few percent.

[J70]

Of those still around, Ancelotti and Conte were top class players and are successful, trophy-winning managers.

The likes of Xavi and Pirlo remains to be seen. Arteta could make it, although he obviously wasn't in Zidane's elite league as a player.

[brokencrossbar1]

Similar trajectory to big Frank, from a lower level challenge into a job he couldn't handle. How many of the top gaffers were dominant players ?

In fairness to the bald one but Pep was a pretty decent player.

[Milltown Row2]

Similar trajectory to big Frank, from a lower level challenge into a job he couldn't handle. How many of the top gaffers were dominant players ?

In fairness to the bald one but Pep was a pretty decent player.

And they are ten times the better player managers than the ones on here 

[seafoid]

The chances of an elite level ex player making it in management are very low. It's a cruel business.

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Similar trajectory to big Frank, from a lower level challenge into a job he couldn't handle. How many of the top gaffers were dominant players ?

In fairness to the bald one but Pep was a pretty decent player.

And they are ten times the better player managers than the ones on here 
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Very few elites on here....

[J70]

The chances of an elite level ex player making it in management are very low. It's a cruel business.

I'd say the chances of ANY given ex-player making it in management are very low.

[rodney trotter]

Frank De Boer started his managerial career well at Ajax,but it's been a disaster since. Inter Milan, Crystal Palace, Atlanta in MLS and manager of Holland. He was sacked in all those Jobs

[J70]

A manager needs to find his level and even fit (don't mean that in a derogatory sense).

Big Sam was a specialist in keeping smaller teams in the Premier League. His skills wouldn't work at an elite club. Moyes, while not the same, is a perfectly capable middle-level PL manager, but couldn't cut it at United.

Would Pep do a good job somewhere like Burnley or West Ham, where he would have to work with lower quality players and couldn't play his intricate, possession-dominating, triangle football?

There are very few managers who are sure things. Some succeed at certain clubs, but can fail at what, on the surface, look like similar clubs. There are so many variables. There aren't many Klopps or Fergusons who perform and succeed regardless of the situation.

Brian Clough brought Derby their only title successes in their history, then went to Leeds where he was drummed out the door inside six weeks, then went to Forest where he won their only league title and two European Cups.

[JohnDenver]

A manager needs to find his level and even fit (don't mean that in a derogatory sense).

Big Sam was a specialist in keeping smaller teams in the Premier League. His skills wouldn't work at an elite club. Moyes, while not the same, is a perfectly capable middle-level PL manager, but couldn't cut it at United.

Would Pep do a good job somewhere like Burnley or West Ham, where he would have to work with lower quality players and couldn't play his intricate, possession-dominating, triangle football?

There are very few managers who are sure things. Some succeed at certain clubs, but can fail at what, on the surface, look like similar clubs. There are so many variables. There aren't many Klopps or Fergusons who perform and succeed regardless of the situation.

100% win rate with the English national team

[rodney trotter]

Gerrard gone

Should have stayed with Rangers.

Should he though? Yeah handy life in a shite league and guaranteed to finish first or second every season.
I suppose he wanted to take a risk and be challenged though which is fair enough, doesn't always work out but I can understand why he took the risk. Always easy for someone to say he should have done different after the event though.

His record at Rangers wasn't that great. They won 1 league title in a season where Celtic were in free fall with Neil Lennon. They were knocked out of the Cup by the likes of St Johnstone during his time. He never won a Cup  .

The wheels came off at Villa when Michael Beale left for QPR , he was part of the management at Rangers also.

[delgany]

Gerrard gone

Should have stayed with Rangers.

Should he though? Yeah handy life in a shite league and guaranteed to finish first or second every season.
I suppose he wanted to take a risk and be challenged though which is fair enough, doesn't always work out but I can understand why he took the risk. Always easy for someone to say he should have done different after the event though.

His record at Rangers wasn't that great. They won 1 league title in a season where Celtic were in free fall with Neil Lennon. They were knocked out of the Cup by the likes of St Johnstone during his time. He never won a Cup  .

The wheels came off at Villa when Michael Beale left for QPR , he was part of the management at Rangers also.

Always think  guys like  Lampard and Gerard should learn  their trade    and build their expertise in the lower leagues  first

[Captain Obvious]

Gerrard gone

Should have stayed with Rangers.

Should he though? Yeah handy life in a shite league and guaranteed to finish first or second every season.
I suppose he wanted to take a risk and be challenged though which is fair enough, doesn’t always work out but I can understand why he took the risk. Always easy for someone to say he should have done different after the event though.

Yes and it was easy to say same before and after the event.


You do have some seriously strange posts.
I’m never sure if you are being serious or trying to wind people up?