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Title: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
Post by: Cúig huaire on November 19, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
I did not threaten O’Neill, I respectfully asked him to clarify two comments he muttered out of the corner of his mouth on two different threads – coincidently with remarks very similar to those you have been making. Given his history on here I believe he could be trusted to discuss something rationally though any respect I had for him has been seriously diminished.

Firstly Donagh could you explain the highlighted bit for me? How does someone actually mutter out of the corner of his mouth on an internet discussion board?

Are you now backing down from Shane?
However, you're acting there like you have some information on me ONeill. If you want to be taken seriously, spit it out into the open, even better how about relaying it back to my face? Otherwise take your adolescent behaviour back to your classroom where it may be appreciated.

On a side note Donagh my lunch break is almost over, so unlike Sinn Fein dole scum like yourself I may not be available to reply immediately. If I get a chance later this afternoon I`ll check in to have a look at your ramblings.  ;)
As another poster has already said could you try to keep this thread on topic, if you want to start a thread on the hypocricy of todays republican movement please do so. This thread is the "Official FAI Thread", Ireland is a foreign country to the likes of you.  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ziggysego on November 30, 2009, 12:05:34 PM
Oops, wrong thread and I see I've been to the post anyway.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on November 30, 2009, 12:06:50 PM
Ireland ask for extra 2010 World Cup place

Fifa's Sepp Blatter has revealed the Ireland have requested a spot in the 2010 World Cup finals as an extra team after their play-off defeat.

Ireland lost to an extra-time goal against France when Thierry Henry handled the ball during the build-up.

"I will bring it to the attention of the Executive Committee," said Blatter.

The president of football's world governing body added that goal-line technology and extra referees would be considered for the South Africa finals.

Sourced BBCi: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8386207.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8386207.stm)

Are we really looking for an extra place.  :(

Good that goal line technology is being considered.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Aerlik on November 30, 2009, 01:33:46 PM
FFS let it go.  We were not guaranteed to get through if the 'goal' hadn't been scored... enough is enough.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ludermor on January 16, 2010, 11:04:30 AM
I cant find the proper FAi thread?


Delaney hits out at GAA's stance on Croker
16 January 2010


John Delaney has claimed the FAI and IRFU might not have gone ahead with the Aviva Stadium development if they had known Croke Park would be available to them in the long term.

The GAA only agreed to open its doors to soccer and rugby in 2007 on a temporary basis, but the financial success of staging international games at Croke Park has seen a change in attitude in the GAA, and it is expected that a motion will passed at Congress in April which will give Central Council the power to open the stadium to other sports in the future.



But speaking after yesterday's announcement that the Republic of Ireland's glamour friendly on March 3 against Brazil will take place in Arsenal's Emirates Stadium and not Croke Park, the FAI chief executive again ruled out a return for the international soccer team to GAA headquarters for at least 10 years, stating that the GAA's initial position forced soccer and rugby chiefs to redevelop Lansdowne Road and sign long-term contracts with sponsors and suppliers.

"Had it been made clear going in that Croke Park would remain open in the longer term, I think that discussion could have taken place," the Waterford native said.

"But it was made clear to both Philip Browne (IRFU CEO) and myself when we attended the first meetings that Croke Park was not going to become available to us in the longer haul." http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=122595
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Rossfan on January 16, 2010, 02:51:18 PM
What a p***k that lad is.
Everyone knows the only reason Croke Park was made available for Soccer and Rugby Internationals was beacause Lansdowne Road was being redeveloped.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: From the Bunker on January 18, 2010, 03:06:12 AM
Posted on football365.com

Apologies for dragging this up again!

HENRY SET FOR FIFA HEARING

Posted 17/01/10 21:35



Thierry Henry will face FIFA's disciplinary committee on Monday over his infamous handball against the Republic of Ireland.

The French striker's case will come before FIFA after it was referred to disciplinary chiefs by the world governing body's executive committee last month.

Henry's handball in the run-up to William Gallas' decisive goal in the World Cup qualifying play-off for France led to FIFA agreeing to have another look at video evidence, as well as considering whether to take action against the 32-year-old former Arsenal player.

The outcome is uncertain however - Henry's defence will argue that FIFA's disciplinary code does not give the committee the ability to punish such incidents. Under current rules, only the illegal use of a hand to prevent a goal being scored is covered in relation to possible sanctions.

It may be therefore that the Barcelona striker escapes with a warning or a fine rather than a ban which would rule him out for one of more matches in the World Cup finals in South Africa this summer.

The Football Association of Ireland were infuriated by the goal and demanded a replay, even suggesting they should be allowed to go to the World Cup as a 33rd team.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on February 13, 2010, 04:05:17 PM

Brady steps down from Irish post
Saturday, 13 February 2010 12:34

Liam Brady has put club before country and confirmed he will be standing down as assistant manager of the Republic of Ireland in April.

The former international winger will stand down as Giovanni Trapattoni's assistant when his contract expires.

Brady explained: 'The decision to end my involvement with Ireland has been taken in light of my continued work as director of youth development at Arsenal.

'The Ireland role required me to be away a lot of time and although Arsenal made clear they would have been quite happy for me to continue, I have decided it is not right in the circumstances to remain in position after I complete my contract this April.

'I thank the Football Association of Ireland and everyone involved in the Irish set-up. It has been a great personal experience for me and I wish Giovanni, Marco (assistant manager, Tardelli) and all the players all the very best for the coming campaign.'

The FAI confirmed on their website that next month's international against Brazil will be Brady's last match with the Republic - fittingly it takes place at Arsenal's Emirates Stadium.

Trapattoni said: 'Liam has been a great asset to the Ireland management team and we will all be sorry to see him go after his last match with us against Brazil.

'He has done a great job here and I know all of the players join me in wishing him every continued success at Arsenal.'

FAI chief executive added John Delaney added: 'Liam is a legend of Irish football and a gentleman to work with.

'He has impressed everyone here at the FAI with his dedication and commitment.

'His lifetime of experience at the highest levels in the game, in Italy, England and Ireland brought a necessary dynamic to the original building of the team and contributed significantly to the success of the last campaign.

'We wish him all the very best in his continuing role at Arsenal.'
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on February 13, 2010, 04:07:06 PM
Hope trapp stays. Think he can guide us to the poland and Ukraine
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on February 13, 2010, 04:23:15 PM
Has the real FAI thread been deleted? I think it has.

Bad noises about Trap anyway. He's been linked with at least a couple of jobs a week for the last while. Can't be all smoke and no fire.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Archie Mitchell on February 15, 2010, 05:31:16 PM
New Ireland jersey.

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http://blog.umbro.com/2010/02/15/the-new-republic-of-ireland-home-shirt-another-tailored-classic/ (http://blog.umbro.com/2010/02/15/the-new-republic-of-ireland-home-shirt-another-tailored-classic/)

These new Umbro "Tailored" jersies are unreal. The quality of all 3 City jersies are immense, I have 2 of them and best jersey I have seen/owned in a long time. They come in chest sizes rather than the traditional small, medium, large etc sizes.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 15, 2010, 05:48:25 PM
Quote
Bad noises about Trap anyway. He's been linked with at least a couple of jobs a week for the last while. Can't be all smoke and no fire.

And Brady has jumped ship too, probably doesn't want to be around when the Trapp leaves..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 15, 2010, 06:07:55 PM
Thats a nice kit in fairness
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on February 15, 2010, 06:16:43 PM
Nice top! when is it released?

Is it possible to get it without the 'eircon' logo?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Archie Mitchell on February 15, 2010, 06:30:45 PM
Nice top! when is it released?

Is it possible to get it without the 'eircon' logo?

11th March. They will be wearing it for the Brazil game.

I'm pretty sure none of them will have 'eircon' on it, but the replica ones will have 'Eircom' on them  ;)

Ireland are the only country to have a sponsor on their replica jersey.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on February 15, 2010, 06:42:47 PM
Nice top! when is it released?

Is it possible to get it without the 'eircon' logo?

11th March. They will be wearing it for the Brazil game.

I'm pretty sure none of them will have 'eircon' on it, but the replica ones will have 'Eircom' on them  ;)

Ireland are the only country to have a sponsor on their replica jersey.

eircon is the slang for eircom hence the use of ' '
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: stiffler on March 01, 2010, 09:45:27 PM
Robbie Keane has joined the Republic of Ireland squad ahead of Tuesday's friendly against Brazil in London after recovering from a knee problem.

The striker was initially ruled out after aggravating the injury in Celtic's loss to Rangers on Sunday.

Aston Villa defender Richard Dunne is out after sustaining an unspecified muscle injury in Sunday's Carling Cup final defeat by Manchester United.

He looks certain to be replaced by Hull City's Paul McShane.

Republic boss Giovanni Trapattoni will make a late decision about whether to start with Keane or Newcastle's Leon Best alongside Kevin Doyle of Wolves.

Wigan's James McCarthy, Portsmouth's Marc Wilson and Manchester City's Greg Cunningham could all be given their Republic senior debuts at some stage in the game.


The match will see both goalkeeper Shay Given and left-back Kevin Kilbane set a new record of 103 appearances for the Republic.

Keane will notch his 96th international appearance if he plays.

Brazil coach Dunga left AC Milan pair Ronaldinho and Pato out of his squad while Sevilla striker Luis Fabiano is ruled out by injury.

Dunga called up Wolfsburg's Grafite and Hoffenheim midfielder Carlos Eduardo as replacements while Adriano, Nilmar, Robinho, Kaka, Elano and Julio Baptista are also in the Brazil squad.

The match at Arsenal's Emirates Stadium against the Republic is Brazil's last scheduled friendly before the World Cup finals in South Africa begin in June.




Great to see real players like Keane who love playing for their country. Who says international football is dead?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 01, 2010, 09:55:18 PM
Paul McShane should never be allowed to pull on the green jersey again. >:(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Archie Mitchell on March 02, 2010, 08:01:32 PM
Some crowd at the Emirates!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Archie Mitchell on March 02, 2010, 08:12:27 PM
The new jersey is nice.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on March 02, 2010, 08:38:09 PM
Some crowd at the Emirates!

plenty of empty seats behind Given
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on March 02, 2010, 09:16:44 PM
Duff is unreal at winning free kicks!
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: rosnarun on March 02, 2010, 09:29:55 PM
Duff is unreal at winning free kicks!
or as we say about foreigners - a cheating b**tard
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on March 02, 2010, 09:30:38 PM
Duff is unreal at winning free kicks!
or as we say about foreigners - a cheating b**tard

na- theres a difference in diving and waiting for the foul
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on March 02, 2010, 09:36:41 PM
Good to see mc carthy on to make his debut. He is going to be unreal.

Ireland living very dangerously at the moment.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: JimStynes on March 02, 2010, 09:37:27 PM
It could easily have been 5 or 6 nil here
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on March 02, 2010, 09:43:53 PM
Great goal by Robinho

How come he couldnt perform like that under mancini?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 02, 2010, 09:46:56 PM
between the tackle at the start and goal at the end - 20 passes.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: orangeman on March 02, 2010, 09:48:26 PM
How has Robbie stayed on the pitch ???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lurganblue on March 02, 2010, 09:54:18 PM
McShane is stinkin. Everything he touches turns to shite
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Geoff Tipps on March 02, 2010, 09:59:43 PM
McShane is stinkin. Everything he touches turns to shite

Out of his depth at this level.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on March 02, 2010, 10:00:19 PM
How has Robbie stayed on the pitch ???


He is terribly rubbish. Fair play to young Best for having a go and not passing to him for him to fcuk it up at the end. Cannot suffer the hoor.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lurganblue on March 02, 2010, 10:05:57 PM
How has Robbie stayed on the pitch ???


He is terribly rubbish. Fair play to young Best for having a go and not passing to him for him to fcuk it up at the end. Cannot suffer the hoor.

yep. Robbie was dung too but he can do no wrong, even in the commenators eyes!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thewobbler on March 02, 2010, 10:07:08 PM
Keane was utter rubbish tonight Seanie, but seeing as he is (by a tremendous distance) the most prolific and most exciting forward that Ireland as ever produced, you must have some high standards not to be able to suffer him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 02, 2010, 10:11:00 PM
Don't think Keane is fully fit to be honest. He didn't train at all last week before the Rangers game but played in that and didn't look right. Played tonight after it was first thought he wouldn't and probably just because it's Brazil and he was the same. Would probably have been better off pulling out and letting someone else have a go.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2010, 10:27:48 PM
Don't think Keane is fully fit to be honest. He didn't train at all last week before the Rangers game but played in that and didn't look right. Played tonight after it was first thought he wouldn't and probably just because it's Brazil and he was the same. Would probably have been better off pulling out and letting someone else have a go.

I thought Keane was good in 1st half but when you play a game like what Ireland did for 45 minutes you are going to get knackered in the 2nd half. Brasil make the ball do the work and their class will break you down in the end. In all I thought Ireland did ok considering the ability of our players and who we were up against.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on March 02, 2010, 10:41:50 PM
Lost the run of the game when Whelan and Duff went off.
Keane did well enough, worked twice as hard as any other, covering play and organisation was good.  Amazing that he has been a constant quality player for us over a 12 year period. My favourite striker along with Stapleton. He has enough left in the tank to play an important part in the Euro qual.
Kelly did well, well enough to be a contender for RB, doesn't stand down, gutsy and our best defender.
KK's international profile has to be reduced, he has more lives than Rasputen but anybody else will do at this stage.
Lawrence is struggling. But McCarthy looks a real livewire. I hope Trap gives him more game time in the next 2 friendlies.

No big deal to end up being totally outplayed. The team from the last campaign was never going to be good enough for the next one.



Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on March 02, 2010, 10:55:03 PM
Keane was utter rubbish tonight Seanie, but seeing as he is (by a tremendous distance) the most prolific and most exciting forward that Ireland as ever produced, you must have some high standards not to be able to suffer him.


Yeah, I'm possibly a bit harsh on him and its probably not fair but its just my feeling. I'll try to explain why. Firstly, the hoopla that surrounds him is totally over the top. At the very top of his game he is good but a lot of the time his body language* and lack of effort annoys the hell out of me. I personally think he is massively overrated, especially by Irish people (the English don't have a monopoly on doing that sort of thing - who knew??!!!). I also think he misses a serious amount of chances, too many to be rated as highly as he is. Yes - he has scored the most goals ever for the Republic of Ireland but the likes of Stapleton and Aldridge were far superior strikers in my book and their club careers reflect that. David Healy has scored loads of goals at International level too (strike rate better than Robbie in by and large a worse team). Didn't like his appearance on the Late Late either, thought it reflected badly on him. He was trying to justify being carried out of a plac a few days before an important match. His recent exit from Spurs is related to the same kind of judgement and professionalism.

*Example tonight when Leon Best (who was named in the team and then dumped due to Robbie's miraculous recovery) had the temerity to attempt a shot rather than pass to him. Should be encouraging a young lad like that or maybe he feels threatened seeing as Best will be playing at a higher level than him next season?

I've probably stared another flame war here and I really didn't mean to, especially with my history with you Wobbler. It's just my opinion.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on March 02, 2010, 11:00:22 PM
No need to explain, your opinion on why he gets on your wick is not that important :-*
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thewobbler on March 02, 2010, 11:09:10 PM
No flame war Seanie. I can understand why he is a frustrating player to watch. Some days he appears to have the ball control of an under-8 camog, and other days he is capable of doing absolutely anything with a ball through natural instinct.

Which would suggest he either drinks too much or doesn't sleep enough or something, as it shouldn't be possible for a 30 year to be that inconsistent.



But having watched him closely for 5 years at Spurs, I'd disagree on your laziness and leadership points. He's an animated boyo, no doubt about that - always giving off about something to someone. But look closer and he's also the first person to clap hands, signal appreciation, point the "that was your's" finger. It's not selfishness that drives him to give off, it's just a will to win, a will to do better. Which is why he's been a captain of lots of teams recently.

Anyway, history will be good to him. Circa 2020, RTE will put on a highlights reel of what he did in green, and you can guarantee that Dunphy and Giles' replacements will go misty-eyed, and a nation will join in. Stapleton and Aldridge played in the best Irish teams of all time, and between them they couldn't score as many goals as Robbie has (and counting) in a mostly depressing era for Irish soccer.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on March 02, 2010, 11:37:08 PM
Yeah, there were a few years at Spurs where he was really good and approached a better level of consistency. Also, in certain international matches he has been excellent, suppose that's what really irks me - I'd like him to be up for it all the time. I'll take your word for it on the encouraging players etc. I'm biased against him so possibly only notice what I want to see.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Mickey Linden on March 26, 2010, 11:50:44 AM
Good article on Don Givens. I could never understand why he was kept on for so long given his record,

http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/3127/
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: stiffler on March 26, 2010, 11:13:48 PM
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSHzvF8p_Ug

video of lansdowne....coming along nicely
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 12, 2010, 04:12:44 PM
Manchester United to play Ireland friendly


Manchester United have confirmed they will play a friendly in Dublin on August 4 to open the new Aviva Stadium.

The encounter will pit Sir Alex Ferguson's men into battle with an Airtricity League XI as part of United's plans for the 2010-11 campaign.
That could mean some Derry City players coming up against the Red Devils.

Aside from being a competitive match against a team made up of players who will be midway through their domestic season - even if they are shorn of a few stars by European commitments - it also gives a chance for United's legion of Irish fans to see them in action.





The titles a bit misleading.  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magickingdom on May 22, 2010, 03:43:01 PM
this sounds scary, freak injury to shane duffy. thank God hes ok


http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2010/0522/1224270918821.html
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 22, 2010, 06:21:30 PM
this sounds scary, freak injury to shane duffy. thank God hes ok


http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2010/0522/1224270918821.html

Just saw this on skysports, very lucky fella by all accounts, life saving surgery.... :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: omagh_gael on May 22, 2010, 06:57:30 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but this is scarily similar to the incident which tragically took young Paul Mc Girr's life in Healy park in 97/98? It just goes to show you how fickle life can be. It's great to hear that he had such good medical care so promtly. We could easily be looking at another tragedy if this happened in another part of the country, for example, there is no longer a 'proper' hospital in the whole of co Tyrone and I'd doubt if young Shane would have made it if it happened in Omagh.

Anyway best of luck in the recovery and hopefully we see him pull on the green shirt in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 24, 2010, 08:58:36 PM
Looks like Duffy will be ok,great news and they expect him back training by Christmas,almost died twice according to reports,great work done by the surgeons in the Mather Hospital

Thought there might be more comments on this,seeing as the guy nearly died and he is Irish..

If it was Wayne Rooney's ankle though..............  ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: red hander on May 24, 2010, 09:22:11 PM
Thank God there was an ambulance at the venue ... the medical staff did a magnificent job saving the lad's life
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: maggie on May 25, 2010, 08:52:06 AM
Thank God there was an ambulance at the venue ... the medical staff did a magnificent job saving the lad's life

Read about this in the papers yesterday.
He lost 2/3 of his blood supply.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on May 25, 2010, 12:42:04 PM
Good to hear that young Duffy is doing better... fecking scary stuff though - sure how many times would you see a collision on a football, half a dozen times every game I'd reckon
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on May 25, 2010, 12:58:29 PM
Good to hear that young Duffy is doing better... fecking scary stuff though - sure how many times would you see a collision on a football, half a dozen times every game I'd reckon
More like a freak injury that turned into a real scare for all involved.

They say he could be back playing after 3 or 4 months. I don't know if that means training or playing fully fit.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: bingobus on May 25, 2010, 02:21:26 PM
Good to see young Duffy will be ok.

Sunday night we had a Junior game and I'd be over the team. Brother playing midfield and right at end of game he takes an almighty shoulder charge in the back from a lad trying to drive him over the line. He's struggling for air but goes back out to finish game. Back in the dressing room and he's in a heap in the corner and struggling to breath. I get him in car and drive to the DOC-on-call service in the town, him near passing out on car, get him in and the Doc is straight onto the ambulance to come.

All I could think off is the Duffy fella from Friday. Was scary stuff.

He actually punctured his lung and they put a tube in his side on Sunday and he's still in hospital but shows how easy these things happen.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 25, 2010, 09:41:03 PM
Not the worst game ever, always nice to win
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Ulick on May 25, 2010, 09:58:30 PM
Not the worst game ever, always nice to win

Cheers LL, wasn't that fussed on watching the highlights later anyway  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on May 26, 2010, 12:03:01 PM
Anyone know where I could watch highlights of last night's game?  Good to see that Cavan's Cillian Sheridan came on - how did he play?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on May 26, 2010, 12:31:40 PM
I suppose considering Sheridan is from Cavan, he did not disgrace himself.  At the time he came on, Ireland were holding on to a lead, not chasing the game. He got on the ball a few times, won a good corner, got his head to the long ball a few times. Hard to see from tv coverage how his movement was, but from what I could see he has a lot of progress to make before he would make the squad. Shane Long does look a better player than him.

Good energetic first half from something close to our best team.
Maybe it is just the other teams know we are managed by the legend that is Trap so they assume we must be well organised ::)
CM was just about functional with Andrews pushing forward. Whelan fell asleep for the Paraguay goal but he hit a lovely pass for Duff to run onto, a real goal scoring chance.
A new kid called Green came on as a sub and did well (a Trap type CM), good enough to get another run out against Algeria. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on May 26, 2010, 12:57:06 PM
I suppose considering Sheridan is from Cavan, he did not disgrace himself.  At the time he came on, Ireland were holding on to a lead, not chasing the game. He got on the ball a few times, won a good corner, got his head to the long ball a few times. Hard to see from tv coverage how his movement was, but from what I could see he has a lot of progress to make before he would make the squad. Shane Long does look a better player than him.

Good energetic first half from something close to our best team.
Maybe it is just the other teams know we are managed by the legend that is Trap so they assume we must be well organised ::)
CM was just about functional with Andrews pushing forward. Whelan fell asleep for the Paraguay goal but he hit a lovely pass for Duff to run onto, a real goal scoring chance.
A new kid called Green came on as a sub and did well (a Trap type CM), good enough to get another run out against Algeria.

I'm letting that first comment go but you're on notice boyo!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on May 26, 2010, 01:22:59 PM
Good to see a couple more midfield options appearing. With James McCarthy and hopefully Jamie O'Hara to come in things could be looking up in that area of the pitch. Still short on defenders though, things look ropey back there without Dunne. Surely there's a better CB than Paul McShane out there somewhere with an Irish granny. Kevin Doyle is first class.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 26, 2010, 01:27:11 PM
Doyle did very well and I wouldn't mind Liverpool taking a punt on him.  McShane is a bombscare and centre halves seriously needed.  Greene did very well and showed like he wanted to make an impression as did Fahey.  Sheridan is a bit like Leon Best, just not as good :P
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on May 26, 2010, 01:46:58 PM
We are short of centre halves and McShane deservedly comes 4th in line after Dunne, O'Shea and St Ledger.
No way would I have O'Dea ahead of McShane.

If we get a pair of decent functioning full backs out of the glut of possibilities for the next campaign then O'Shea should be free to resume at CH.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on May 26, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
McShane is way our of his depth at this level - he was scarily bad last night.  I did an experiment and just watched him for ten quiet minutes in the second half - he is clueless entirely.  Paraguay would never have scored if he hadn't handed the chance on a plate with a ridiculous lunge.

Sheridan was alright; he's a bit slow with the ball at his feet.  Long looks like he could be a handful as he develops.

Decent crowd for a meaningless friendly.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hound on May 26, 2010, 04:41:03 PM

Decent crowd for a meaningless friendly.
Block bookers were forced to buy tickets or else lose their entitlement to tickets in the new stadium.
A friend of mine bought two that way and literally couldnt give them away.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on May 26, 2010, 06:04:14 PM
McShane is way our of his depth at this level - he was scarily bad last night.  I did an experiment and just watched him for ten quiet minutes in the second half - he is clueless entirely.  Paraguay would never have scored if he hadn't handed the chance on a plate with a ridiculous lunge.

Trap certainly won't see it as purely McShane's fault. They are all His children :)
It was a well taken goal and the defense was not up to it.
McShane should have closed down rather than lunge but why was there a player with the ball at his feet in space in the first instance? then after McShane was foiled by a deft touch which sent the ball to another unmarked player in space, Whelan just stares at the ball. All told,  McShane's lunge and 2 other sleepy defenders with Whelan in particular at 6s and 7s.

 
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Sheridan was alright; he's a bit slow with the ball at his feet.  Long looks like he could be a handful as he develops.
Sheridan would need to develop some serious aerial prowess, same with Daryll Murphy, in order to justify inclusion on the squad.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on May 27, 2010, 09:18:41 AM

Decent crowd for a meaningless friendly.
Block bookers were forced to buy tickets or else lose their entitlement to tickets in the new stadium.
A friend of mine bought two that way and literally couldnt give them away.

I was given 7 free tickets!

I guess McShane (having watched the replay last night) wasn't wholly at fault (just 95%).  Good news to hear that he's 'not available' tomorrow night.  Hopefully some youngster (Coleman) might get a run, although I believe Richard Dunne will be available.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on May 27, 2010, 10:50:33 AM
You have been too busy focussing on McShane to see the wider team picture  :)
It's widely known that Dunne is not available and Coleman has not been called up to the squad.

It is a question of who will partner St Ledger, an obvious choice is O'Shea, even if he is just  at 50% of being match fit.
But we don't have a left FB. There is a Man City youth/reserve player called Cunningham and O'Dea who has played there for Celtic.
Trap could go with O'Dea at CH and leave O'Shea and Kelly in their places.






Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on May 27, 2010, 03:42:47 PM
Greg Cunningham set to make Ireland debut
Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:31

Teenager Greg Cunningham will win his for senior cap for the Republic of Ireland in tomorrow night's friendly clash with Algeria.

The 19-year-old Manchester City full-back, who made just three appearances as a substitute for his club last season, will line up on the left as John O'Shea moves into the middle to partner Sean St Ledger with Paul McShane having been released from the squad.

There will also be a first start for 27-year-old Derby midfielder Paul Green, who made his debut as a substitute against Paraguay on Tuesday evening.

Manager Giovanni Trapattoni has an injury doubt over Liam Lawrence, who is struggling to shake off a groin problem, and Birmingham's Keith Fahey is standing by.

Republic of Ireland starting XI to face Algeria at the RDS, Friday 28 May, kick-off 7.45pm: K Westwood; S Kelly, J O'Shea, S St Ledger, G Cunninham; L Lawrence, P Green, G Whelan, D Duff; R Keane, K Doyle.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on May 27, 2010, 05:23:53 PM
I told you that Cunningham would start :)

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on May 28, 2010, 04:11:10 PM
Not worth its own thread.
France awarded the Euros in 2016.

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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on May 28, 2010, 05:42:32 PM
wish it was in italy to be honest.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 28, 2010, 08:46:18 PM
Algeria are brutal, England should beat them easily enough.
Good goal from Greene, got a nice bang on the head for himself too.
Didn't realise there was so many Algerians in Ireland there must be a thousand or more behind the goal, I'm presuming of course they didn't actually fly over from Algeria for the game!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on May 28, 2010, 09:04:37 PM
Not worth its own thread.
France awarded the Euros in 2016.

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I may make the trip over & week or two in the South of France sounds good to me  8)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on May 28, 2010, 09:24:59 PM
I will be disgusted if robbie keane gets man of the match.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 28, 2010, 09:53:32 PM
Algeria are brutal, England should beat them easily enough.
Good goal from Greene, got a nice bang on the head for himself too.
Didn't realise there was so many Algerians in Ireland there must be a thousand or more behind the goal, I'm presuming of course they didn't actually fly over from Algeria for the game!

2,000 apparently.

Looked like they were enjoying themselves anyway.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on May 28, 2010, 11:10:33 PM
The Dad of the seperated twins was a special guest at tonights game.

Did anyone from team England come over to lookat Algeria?  I wonder would it be worth a punt that the England Algeria game will be a draw?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on May 29, 2010, 01:30:29 AM
Good to see young Duffy will be ok.

Sunday night we had a Junior game and I'd be over the team. Brother playing midfield and right at end of game he takes an almighty shoulder charge in the back from a lad trying to drive him over the line. He's struggling for air but goes back out to finish game. Back in the dressing room and he's in a heap in the corner and struggling to breath. I get him in car and drive to the DOC-on-call service in the town, him near passing out on car, get him in and the Doc is straight onto the ambulance to come.

All I could think off is the Duffy fella from Friday. Was scary stuff.

He actually punctured his lung and they put a tube in his side on Sunday and he's still in hospital but shows how easy these things happen.

No fun that. Hope he is alright.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Geoff Tipps on May 29, 2010, 11:59:19 AM
The Dad of the seperated twins was a special guest at tonights game.

Did anyone from team England come over to lookat Algeria?  I wonder would it be worth a punt that the England Algeria game will be a draw?

Capello's assistant was at it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on May 29, 2010, 02:27:29 PM
Algeria had half their team out there and will likely be a different proposition in the Finals.
Though it is no wonder that they have had problems with receiving 2 and 3 red cards in important competitive games.

It was an easy enough win. Whelan and Lawrence looked exhausted but kept plugging away. St Ledger with each game looks every bit a good centre half. O'Dea  took his chance ok. He is still quite raw but if he keeps plugging away he will make a good enough CH.
Green impressed again, he just has that rare football intelligence to fit in to an international team as if he had been playing for years with them. Surely he will replace Miller in the squad.
We have a team who will be pushing hard to top their Euro qual group. There will be no talk of  'finishing runners up will be an achievement'.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: INDIANA on May 29, 2010, 02:29:10 PM
Algeria had half their team out there and will likely be a different proposition in the Finals.
Though it is no wonder that they have had problems with receiving 2 and 3 red cards in important competitive games.

It was an easy enough win. Whelan and Lawrence looked exhausted but kept plugging away. St Ledger with each game looks every bit a good centre half. O'Dea  took his chance ok. He is still quite raw but if he keeps plugging away he will make a good enough CH.
Green impressed again, he just has that rare football intelligence to fit in to an international team as if he had been playing for years with them. Surely he will replace Miller in the squad.
We have a team who will be pushing hard to top their Euro qual group. There will be no talk of  'finishing runners up will be an achievement'.
fairly crap group really. If Ireland can't qualify out of that group they can pack it up.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on May 29, 2010, 06:56:16 PM
Fairly crap, in relative terms. Russia are about the weakest of the first seeds and Slovakia are weak 2nd seeds.
Russia have a better team than us and are warm enough favourites to go through.
I'd agree that, coming into the group as mid ranking 3rd seeds, we have the best chance to top a group since the '88 Euros.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: stiffler on July 27, 2010, 05:29:44 PM
Trapattoni names squad for Argentina
Tuesday, 27 July 2010 17:14

Republic of Ireland manager, Giovanni Trapattoni, has named a near full strength squad to face Argentina in the first international game in the Aviva Stadium on 11 August.

Goalkeeper Shay Given is named in the squad, following his recovery from a dislocated shoulder, while the likes of Damien Duff, Richard Dunne, Robbie Keane and Keith Doyle are all included.

The squad also features eleven players who took part in the summer training camp in May with Cillian Sheridan joining the up with Trapattoni's men after the Under 21 game against Estonia on 10 August.

Giovanni Trapattoni said: 'It will be a special occasion for everyone to be involved in the first ever game in Aviva stadium and Argentina will be a test for our players.

'The game comes at a crucial time in our preparation for the European Championship qualifying campaign and we must use it to strengthen our squad for the opening qualifiers against Armenia and Andorra in September.'

Republic of Ireland squad to play Argentina in the Aviva Stadium on 11 August: Shay Given, Keiren Westwood, Joe Murphy, John O'Shea, Richard Dunne, Sean St Ledger, Greg Cunningham, Kevin Foley, Marc Wilson, Stephen Kelly, Paul McShane, Darren O'Dea, Kevin Kilbane, Keith Andrews, Glenn Whelan, Darron Gibson, Paul Green, Liam Lawrence, Aiden McGeady, Ande Keogh, Damien Duff, Keith Fahey, Keith Treacy, Cillian Sheridan, Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle, Caleb Folan, Shane Long




Good to see Wilson named in the squad. Would be a great occasion to make his debut.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on July 28, 2010, 02:13:06 PM
Is James McCarthy injured or does Trapp not rate him?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on July 28, 2010, 02:38:59 PM
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Is James McCarthy injured or does Trapp not rate him?

It's because he didn't go to the training camp at the end of last season. He's quotes as saying that he had to give the lads who did turn up a chance

“If you were me, what would you do?” asked the Italian yesterday. “Tell Fahey and Green: ‘You came and played well but now I’m calling McCarthy’. No. we are building step by step. These two players did well and now they have the chance to show that they can do it again.”
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Watcher Pat on July 28, 2010, 08:16:15 PM
Trapattoni names squad for Argentina
Tuesday, 27 July 2010 17:14

Republic of Ireland manager, Giovanni Trapattoni, has named a near full strength squad to face Argentina in the first international game in the Aviva Stadium on 11 August.

Goalkeeper Shay Given is named in the squad, following his recovery from a dislocated shoulder, while the likes of Damien Duff, Richard Dunne, Robbie Keane and Keith Doyle are all included.

The squad also features eleven players who took part in the summer training camp in May with Cillian Sheridan joining the up with Trapattoni's men after the Under 21 game against Estonia on 10 August.

Giovanni Trapattoni said: 'It will be a special occasion for everyone to be involved in the first ever game in Aviva stadium and Argentina will be a test for our players.

'The game comes at a crucial time in our preparation for the European Championship qualifying campaign and we must use it to strengthen our squad for the opening qualifiers against Armenia and Andorra in September.'

Republic of Ireland squad to play Argentina in the Aviva Stadium on 11 August: Shay Given, Keiren Westwood, Joe Murphy, John O'Shea, Richard Dunne, Sean St Ledger, Greg Cunningham, Kevin Foley, Marc Wilson, Stephen Kelly, Paul McShane, Darren O'Dea, Kevin Kilbane, Keith Andrews, Glenn Whelan, Darron Gibson, Paul Green, Liam Lawrence, Aiden McGeady, Ande Keogh, Damien Duff, Keith Fahey, Keith Treacy, Cillian Sheridan, Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle, Caleb Folan, Shane Long




Good to see Wilson named in the squad. Would be a great occasion to make his debut.

Just got my ticket. North stand block 135 row c...Right behind the nets in the smaller stand

You going?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: stiffler on July 28, 2010, 09:24:06 PM
Trapattoni names squad for Argentina
Tuesday, 27 July 2010 17:14

Republic of Ireland manager, Giovanni Trapattoni, has named a near full strength squad to face Argentina in the first international game in the Aviva Stadium on 11 August.

Goalkeeper Shay Given is named in the squad, following his recovery from a dislocated shoulder, while the likes of Damien Duff, Richard Dunne, Robbie Keane and Keith Doyle are all included.

The squad also features eleven players who took part in the summer training camp in May with Cillian Sheridan joining the up with Trapattoni's men after the Under 21 game against Estonia on 10 August.

Giovanni Trapattoni said: 'It will be a special occasion for everyone to be involved in the first ever game in Aviva stadium and Argentina will be a test for our players.

'The game comes at a crucial time in our preparation for the European Championship qualifying campaign and we must use it to strengthen our squad for the opening qualifiers against Armenia and Andorra in September.'

Republic of Ireland squad to play Argentina in the Aviva Stadium on 11 August: Shay Given, Keiren Westwood, Joe Murphy, John O'Shea, Richard Dunne, Sean St Ledger, Greg Cunningham, Kevin Foley, Marc Wilson, Stephen Kelly, Paul McShane, Darren O'Dea, Kevin Kilbane, Keith Andrews, Glenn Whelan, Darron Gibson, Paul Green, Liam Lawrence, Aiden McGeady, Ande Keogh, Damien Duff, Keith Fahey, Keith Treacy, Cillian Sheridan, Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle, Caleb Folan, Shane Long




Good to see Wilson named in the squad. Would be a great occasion to make his debut.

Just got my ticket. North stand block 135 row c...Right behind the nets in the smaller stand

You going?

Thats you in the singing section big son!

yeah heading down to it, should be a good 1. Know of any good drinking establishments pre game?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on July 28, 2010, 09:43:51 PM
Slatterys in Beggards bush is very good. I think we are planning to go in and sample the Aviva pints, they have been going on about it for a while
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: stiffler on July 28, 2010, 09:47:33 PM
Slatterys in Beggards bush is very good. I think we are planning to go in and sample the Aviva pints, they have been going on about it for a while

would it not be plastic glasses? thats a nightmare if it is. whats their brew?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on July 28, 2010, 09:57:16 PM
its more to see whats its like to be honest I assume it will be pricey and more than likely will be going back to the beggars bush for future games
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tyroneboi on July 28, 2010, 11:12:31 PM
I seen today Sam Allardyce said that he will manage at club level for another 2 years before looking for a national team management role. I can just see it now 'Big Sam' rolling into Dublin looking the Irish job after Trap leaves his post (hopefully after taking part in Euro 2012).
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on July 29, 2010, 02:53:59 PM
Some tickets available on Ticketmaster today for the Argie game. Just got the cheapest one for €40
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on July 29, 2010, 03:04:37 PM
Shay with a couple of penalty saves last night for Citeh, Hart has a way to go before he replaces him as Number 1.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on August 07, 2010, 03:33:40 AM
anyone have a spare ticket for wednesday s game agin the argies ??
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on August 11, 2010, 02:48:24 PM
Bringing the young fella into the game tonight. Presume the new stadium will allow you to have a jar beforehand in their trendy new bars???
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 03:20:53 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on August 11, 2010, 03:29:48 PM
I heard that myself Hardy and couldn't believe it. Can you imagine if it was the Brits/Frogs etc as you said.
Re the standard pronunciation etc I do vaguely remember Charles Mitchell commenting on the decline as he was about to retire so don't think it's a new thing!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on August 11, 2010, 03:53:38 PM
 ???
Where is the problem here, apart from an ability to invent one? ::)
Argies is a good abbreviation.
No different than the use of Aussies or Brits.









Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on August 11, 2010, 03:58:05 PM
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anyone have a spare ticket for wednesday s game agin the argies ??

I understand that there were still tickets for sale at the ground this morning, so it shouldn't be difficult to get one.

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Bringing the young fella into the game tonight. Presume the new stadium will allow you to have a jar beforehand in their trendy new bars???

I was in it a month ago and it looks good - they claim you won't have to queue more than 2.5 mins for a pint, even at peak times.  You can report back on that tomorrow Declan.  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: fearsiuil on August 11, 2010, 04:14:06 PM
Last minute job here, anyone know where/how I'd get a ticket for tonight's match ? Ticketmaster aren't selling now so close to game time. Any help greatly appreciated.
Fearsiul
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 11, 2010, 04:41:47 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

Did they say how that Eyetie that manages the Paddies was getting on with his dose of the skitter?
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 04:44:58 PM
???
Where is the problem here, apart from an ability to invent one? ::)
Argies is a good abbreviation.
No different than the use of Aussies or Brits.

It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war.

I could be wrong. Can anybody help - especially people who were around before 1982?
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 11, 2010, 04:50:16 PM
???
Where is the problem here, apart from an ability to invent one? ::)
Argies is a good abbreviation.
No different than the use of Aussies or Brits.

It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war.

I could be wrong. Can anybody help - especially people who were around before 1982?

I believe you're right Hardy.  I first heard/read the term "Argie" at the time of the Malvinas War.  Don't remember any references to the Argies winning the 1978 World Cup.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on August 11, 2010, 05:03:37 PM
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Last minute job here, anyone know where/how I'd get a ticket for tonight's match ? Ticketmaster aren't selling now so close to game time. Any help greatly appreciated.
Fearsiul

I heard that there were tickets on sale in the Umbro shop on Westmoreland St. and at the ground.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: fearsiuil on August 11, 2010, 05:55:18 PM
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Last minute job here, anyone know where/how I'd get a ticket for tonight's match ? Ticketmaster aren't selling now so close to game time. Any help greatly appreciated.
Fearsiul

I heard that there were tickets on sale in the Umbro shop on Westmoreland St. and at the ground.
Thanks, will head in for a look.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on August 11, 2010, 06:52:51 PM
Loads of ticéidí about, bought one at face value straight off DART.
Title: Re
Post by: stiffler on August 11, 2010, 06:58:49 PM
Should be an interesting tussle tonight, fancy keane to score on his 100th cap
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 07:50:25 PM
whats the carry on with the baby?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2010, 07:52:57 PM
Robbie's 100th Cap. Robbies's son. Common enough for those sort of occasions.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 07:54:23 PM
More like, "Hey everybody i had a baby with this one"

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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2010, 07:55:53 PM
Wrong thread :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 11, 2010, 08:06:26 PM
More like, "Hey everybody i had a baby with this one"

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Her Mother is from Laois, that's where she gets her good looks from

Here in the Aviva, good atmosphere, it's great to have matches back here finally, much better for soccer than Croke Park.
Oohhh close there from Messi
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 08:09:50 PM
If you are in Aviva now.. then what was that loud crashing noise? sounded like someone broke one of the glass panels
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2010, 08:20:41 PM
I never knew you couldn't be offside from a kickout. I don't think Shay knew either :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on August 11, 2010, 08:21:30 PM
Duff just missed a chance. Then Argentina score. The fans in the stadium don't like it. Was it offside?

Good view from the upper tier of the douth stand.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on August 11, 2010, 08:23:57 PM
If you are in Aviva now.. then what was that loud crashing noise? sounded like someone broke one of the glass panels


I heard that too.

Who knew the wee Scot was such a genius on the rules? Nice one Ray.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Boycey on August 11, 2010, 08:25:36 PM
If the two of ye are at the match get off your phones and watch the match for Christ sake
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: rosnarun on August 11, 2010, 08:28:12 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 08:28:28 PM
Others scores

HT Montenegro 1 - 0 Northern Ireland
England 0 - 0 Hungary 25mins
Sweden 3 - 0 Scotland 68mins
Wales 1 - 0 Luxembourg 42mins
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ziggysego on August 11, 2010, 08:30:36 PM
What channel is it on?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 08:31:36 PM
If the two of ye are at the match get off your phones and watch the match for Christ sake

If they were on there phones they would have a mobile symbol beside the message, so there either talking BS or on the laptops
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ziggysego on August 11, 2010, 08:33:28 PM
If the two of ye are at the match get off your phones and watch the match for Christ sake

If they were on there phones they would have a mobile symbol beside the message, so there either talking BS or on the laptops

Smartphones don't leave symbols.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on August 11, 2010, 08:36:07 PM
Platini and Delaney the w**ker on the big screen to boos (they didn't look impressed) followed by close up of Giles to their left which was greted by a big cheer. Best part of the night so far!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Boycey on August 11, 2010, 08:36:57 PM
If the two of ye are at the match get off your phones and watch the match for Christ sake

If they were on there phones they would have a mobile symbol beside the message, so there either talking BS or on the laptops

Smartphones don't leave symbols.

So either the're not at the match and pretending they are or they are at the match and still posting on here. Not sure which is the saddest......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 08:37:20 PM
What channel is it on?

Sky sports 1 for ROI
Sky Sports 2 for Wales
Setanta Sports 1 for N Ireland
ITV for England
ESPN for Scotland
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 11, 2010, 08:42:38 PM
Boycey how obsessed are you with me? Would ya go get a life ya big tool.

Poor enough game, time for a pint now.
Premium level isn't as nice here as it is in Croke Park it has to be said.
Not sure about small bit behind far goal either.
Platini got some boo when his mug was shown on big screen, did they show that on telly?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2010, 08:53:20 PM
Looks like we've found another Louth man that Hardy is going to take a dislike too. Stan can't stop talking about the "Argies". ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Boycey on August 11, 2010, 08:59:07 PM
Boycey how obsessed are you with me? Would ya go get a life ya big tool.

Poor enough game, time for a pint now.
Premium level isn't as nice here as it is in Croke Park it has to be said.
Not sure about small bit behind far goal either.
Platini got some boo when his mug was shown on big screen, did they show that on telly?

Another one who likes to give it but can't take it.... Enjoy your pint and don't forget to come back and tell us how much it cost and whether it was nice. I'm here on tenderhooks
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2010, 09:01:56 PM
Is it not TENTERhooks?


You have been Hardied.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on August 11, 2010, 09:05:48 PM
I am at the match and using my phone, I swear. If it ever goes to court I have my own footage of the game on the phone to prove it. I live around the corner and came up at the last minute to get a free ticket. The game is just a freindly but it is good to say you were at the first soccer international in the new Landsdowne Aviva stadium.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Boycey on August 11, 2010, 09:19:02 PM
Is it not TENTERhooks?


You have been Hardied.

Noted..

Quote
What’s the meaning and origin of on tenterhooks?

It’s been so long since anyone has seen either a tenter, or the hooks on one, that the word and the idea behind it are now quite mysterious, so much so that it sometimes appears as on tenderhooks, which sounds as though it ought to make more sense. But at one time, the phrase on tenterhooks would have evoked an image that was immediately understandable.

It comes from one of the processes of making woollen cloth. After it had been woven, the cloth still contained oil from the fleece, mixed with dirt. It was cleaned in a fulling mill, but then it had to be dried carefully or it would shrink and crease. So the lengths of wet cloth were stretched on wooden frames, and left out in the open for some time. This allowed them to dry and straightened their weave. These frames were the tenters, and the tenter hooks were the metal hooks used to fix the cloth to the frame. At one time, it would have been common in manufacturing areas to see fields full of these frames (older English maps sometimes marked an area as a tenter-field). So it was not a huge leap of the imagination to think of somebody on tenterhooks as being in an state of anxious suspense, stretched like the cloth on the tenter. The tenters have gone, but the meaning has survived.

Tenter comes from the Latin tendere, to stretch, via a French intermediate. The word has been in the language since the fourteenth century, and on tenters soon after became a phrase meaning painful anxiety. The exact phrase on tenterhooks seems first to have been used by Tobias Smollett in Roderick Random in 1748.

They say you learn something new every day

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 09:26:15 PM
England 0 Hungary 1 i bet that will get a big cheer in lansdowne road

Edit ahh well 1-1
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2010, 09:32:56 PM
2-1 Steeeevieee G la.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Puckoon on August 11, 2010, 09:49:56 PM
Is it not TENTERhooks?


You have been Hardied.

Noted..

Quote
What’s the meaning and origin of on tenterhooks?

It’s been so long since anyone has seen either a tenter, or the hooks on one, that the word and the idea behind it are now quite mysterious, so much so that it sometimes appears as on tenderhooks, which sounds as though it ought to make more sense. But at one time, the phrase on tenterhooks would have evoked an image that was immediately understandable.

It comes from one of the processes of making woollen cloth. After it had been woven, the cloth still contained oil from the fleece, mixed with dirt. It was cleaned in a fulling mill, but then it had to be dried carefully or it would shrink and crease. So the lengths of wet cloth were stretched on wooden frames, and left out in the open for some time. This allowed them to dry and straightened their weave. These frames were the tenters, and the tenter hooks were the metal hooks used to fix the cloth to the frame. At one time, it would have been common in manufacturing areas to see fields full of these frames (older English maps sometimes marked an area as a tenter-field). So it was not a huge leap of the imagination to think of somebody on tenterhooks as being in an state of anxious suspense, stretched like the cloth on the tenter. The tenters have gone, but the meaning has survived.

Tenter comes from the Latin tendere, to stretch, via a French intermediate. The word has been in the language since the fourteenth century, and on tenters soon after became a phrase meaning painful anxiety. The exact phrase on tenterhooks seems first to have been used by Tobias Smollett in Roderick Random in 1748.

They say you learn something new every day

Feckin hell, that is some change all right. It will take a while to get used to that one.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 11, 2010, 10:03:45 PM
I am at the match and using my phone, I swear. If it ever goes to court I have my own footage of the game on the phone to prove it. I live around the corner and came up at the last minute to get a free ticket. The game is just a freindly but it is good to say you were at the first soccer international in the new Landsdowne Aviva stadium.
Don't mind what the armchair fans say Capt Pat!
If I didn't have a youngfella with me I could have went on the batter with you after the game
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 10:08:32 PM
I am at the match and using my phone, I swear. If it ever goes to court I have my own footage of the game on the phone to prove it. I live around the corner and came up at the last minute to get a free ticket. The game is just a freindly but it is good to say you were at the first soccer international in the new Landsdowne Aviva stadium.
Don't mind what the armchair fans say Capt Pat!
If I didn't have a youngfella with me I could have went on the batter with you after the game

So did you manage to say the full 90mins this time?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on August 11, 2010, 10:18:42 PM
The Argies were up for the game and won handy enough.
Offside goal for sure, how can anyone think otherwise? ::) 
Treacy had a good debut as a sub, never heard of him before. Set pieces were awful until Gibson hit the last one.

BTW  the use of the the term "Argie" is no more derogative than 'Aussie'.  Doesn't matter when the term was made popular or by who. It has entered into common enough usage and can be used without disrespect just like any other abbreviation.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on August 11, 2010, 10:35:29 PM
Paul McShane almost looked like a footballer tonight. Yer man Tracey wasn't bad when he came on. Sheridan looked woefully out of his depth, although playing two games in 24 hours can't have helped.

Looking forward to the Euro campaign, it's a bit of a worry that so little is coming through. Very reliant on the auld fellas like Dunne, Given, O'Shea, Keane and Duff. Maybe those lads can maintain their form and fitness for the next two years, but chances are some won't as they push on into their thirties.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on August 11, 2010, 11:02:22 PM
Just back, have to say it was funny to see bars open not selling drink, all the staff wearing Guinness tops, juat standing around with nothing to do.  Was there drink in the Premium level? Our seats were wet when we got in, We were lower east stand but row U which was I thought far back enough to stay dry. Pain in the hole getting out of it. Very slow
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on August 12, 2010, 07:57:30 AM
Fantastic stadium alright and it was good to be there on such an occasion. We were in the "small" end behind the goal and had no problems getting in or out - very easy.
Downsides were the fact that no beer allowed for the plebs - brother in law in the Premier said they were open but when I enquired from the young lassie I was told Uefa don't allow it!! - Gently told her that this was BS and asked to see the supervisor but no luck. Also heard from lads in the East stand who found it very crowded getting out.
Also what is it with traffic management in the city. I had to use the car last night and was in Phibsboro at 6 but just got in at 7.45 - madness.

Anyway the match panned out pretty much to form. We stood off and admired their neat passing in the first half but they lacked penetration apart from a couple of moments of genius from Messi - Great to watch him.
Haven't seen the goal again but heard it was offside. Thought Green did OK and Keogh when he came on livened it up a bit but other than that it was standard enough pre-season fare
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Barney on August 12, 2010, 08:13:37 AM
Watching this on television it really sums up where we are as a country.

Brand spanking new world class stadium. First game.

We can't sell it out - people don't have the money to pay for such an occasion. I know tickets are dear but the fact that in a country of 4 million there are not enough people that can afford to see the likes of Messi.

Also the lack of atmosphere I think tells us something how we go to these occasions now be it a soccer international, GAA match etc and expect to be entertained. We take things such as the new stadium too easily for granted and the sense of natural fun is gone out of the thing.

I thought tickets would have been like gold dust. If I knew otherwise I would have travelled up.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:44:15 AM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must

Evidently so
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:46:17 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on August 12, 2010, 09:01:41 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 09:19:47 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain

Agreed I don't think Given knew this...which is shocking.  After the World Cup I was close to giving up on soccer, this and the hype in England over the "retirement" of Beckham has pushed me closer to the edge
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on August 12, 2010, 09:29:57 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain

Agreed I don't think Given knew this...which is shocking.  After the World Cup I was close to giving up on soccer, this and the hype in England over the "retirement" of Beckham has pushed me closer to the edge

Janey that's a big reaction :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: johnneycool on August 12, 2010, 09:41:02 AM
What's the reasoning for the open end in the Aviva stadium?

Looks a bit silly but I'm sure there's some logical explaination I'm unaware of.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on August 12, 2010, 09:51:37 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain
You cant be offside if you receive the ball directly from a goalkick.

BUT THE BALL WAS PASSED (by the receiver) TO THE GOALSCORER WHO WAS IN AN OFFSIDE POSITION.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on August 12, 2010, 09:52:17 AM
What's the reasoning for the open end in the Aviva stadium?

Looks a bit silly but I'm sure there's some logical explaination I'm unaware of.

No logical reason - politically (i.e. planning) influential residents who want to see the sun at a particular time of the day.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 09:59:53 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain
You cant be offside if you receive the ball directly from a goalkick.

BUT THE BALL WAS PASSED (by the receiver) TO THE GOALSCORER WHO WAS IN AN OFFSIDE POSITION.

See my post at 8:46
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on August 12, 2010, 10:08:02 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain
You cant be offside if you receive the ball directly from a goalkick.

BUT THE BALL WAS PASSED (by the receiver) TO THE GOALSCORER WHO WAS IN AN OFFSIDE POSITION.

Yes we know that Main Street.

But Shay Given's protests, in my opinion, were because of Higuain, that's what he was pointing at. Di Maria wasn't an obvious offside, certainly from Given's angle.

I didn't know the rule. I admit, until Razor told us.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on August 12, 2010, 11:02:15 AM
Who does Keith Treacy play for?  Looked the part last night in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on August 12, 2010, 11:14:48 AM
Quote
Who does Keith Treacy play for?

Preston. Was with Blackburn for a while but never really fulfilled his promise
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Onlooker on August 12, 2010, 11:25:08 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain
Shay Given has been a professional footballer for most of his life.  He has played over 100 times for Ireland and people are saying that he does not know that you can not be offside from a goal kick.  How could he not know such a fundamental rule.  What other rules does he not know?.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on August 12, 2010, 11:29:24 AM
It is a bit ridiculous having that narrow end of the ground, but I think the bottom line isthe IRFU did not want to leave their base in Dublin 4 and go to a cheaper site. They could have built a proper national stadium in terms of size and positioning, but catering to the fewer more important people who live along the dart line is more important. The site wasn't big enough and the neighbours in Havelock Square had the project cut back. I think they were going to turn the stadium around 90 degrees and have the pitch run east to west, but it is still north to south. I think that was stopped because it would have put the big stand over shadowing the local residents.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Clown on August 12, 2010, 12:16:23 PM
The GAA cud do with a nice, smaller stadium like the Aviva at the minute to host quarter and semi finals in, where a bit of atmosphere wud be generated, instead of the masses of empty seats at Croker we've been getting this year!

 :P
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on August 12, 2010, 12:46:41 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must

Evidently so

Brilliant! I'd have missed this classic if someone hadn't sent me a PM about it. It's wonderful how a few sentences of near English can so effectively make a point, even if it's the opposite to the one intended.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on August 12, 2010, 12:51:35 PM
Steve Staunton was referring to the opposition as the 'Argies' last night on Sky.  Jaysus.   ::)
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on August 12, 2010, 12:56:39 PM
BTW  the use of the the term "Argie" is no more derogative than 'Aussie'.  Doesn't matter when the term was made popular or by who. It has entered into common enough usage and can be used without disrespect just like any other abbreviation.

I think that's a matter of opinion, MS and that's what the debate is about. A quick google shows there's nowhere near unanimity on whether it's derogatory or not. It seems at least some Argentinians don't like it. My main point was that the likes of RTÉ should have editorial policy on something like this, instead of letting some wet-behind-the-ears cub reporter read his script on the sports news unchecked.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on August 12, 2010, 12:57:56 PM
I was thinking how shocked they'd be if Stan started about the 'Brits' if we were playing England, particularly.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on August 12, 2010, 01:24:28 PM
Watched the game last night and I thought Kilbane looked seriously past it, eventhough I was never much of a fan and I realise he was up against Messi a good bit. Surely Ireland would be better served if O'Shea went left back and then Dunne and St. Ledger were in the middle with McShane on the right? (I wouldn't start McShane personally, but he played ok last night and it looks like there is absolutely no one else challenging for the right back spot).
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on August 12, 2010, 01:30:00 PM
Quote
I wouldn't start McShane personally, but he played ok last night and it looks like there is absolutely no one else challenging for the right back spot).

I wouldn't have him as a kit man - the biggest cheer he got last night was when he mis-controlled a pass over the touch line and promptly pulled on the ball and ballooned it into the top tier of the West stand. Seamus Coleman would have been worth a look last night.

On the lack of beer I rang the FAI this morning for an explanation and was told that it was a "rule" that they could only serve beer in the premium/corporate level. When I asked which "rule" that was they quoted Uefa but when I said that I had asked Uefa who said they knew of no such rule they hmmmmd a bit and took my number and said they'd get back to me. ??? ???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on August 12, 2010, 01:35:02 PM
Quote
Seamus Coleman would have been worth a look last night.

Actually, yeah thats a good point, totally forgot about him. The management seem seriously conservative when it comes to trying out new players, especially in problem positions like left and right back. Coleman definitely would have been worth a look though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on August 12, 2010, 01:38:42 PM
Quote
Seamus Coleman would have been worth a look last night.

Actually, yeah thats a good point, totally forgot about him. The management seem seriously conservative when it comes to trying out new players, especially in problem positions like left and right back. Coleman definitely would have been worth a look though.

Kevin Foley is another fullback option who never gets a look in.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: johnneycool on August 12, 2010, 01:53:04 PM
Quote
Seamus Coleman would have been worth a look last night.

Actually, yeah thats a good point, totally forgot about him. The management seem seriously conservative when it comes to trying out new players, especially in problem positions like left and right back. Coleman definitely would have been worth a look though.

Was one of the critisms of the Trappatoni regime was that they never took time to go looking at peripheral and up and coming talent?

Coleman is promising and the fact that Moyes hasn't loaned him out this year means he may be getting a few starts and considering his main opponent at Everton for right full back is Tony Hibbert then he's in with a good shout.

In the word of Eamon dunphy 'McShane is a disaster waiting to happen'
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: passedit on August 12, 2010, 02:01:59 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must

Evidently so

Brilliant! I'd have missed this classic if someone hadn't sent me a PM about it. It's wonderful how a few sentences of near English can so effectively make a point, even if it's the opposite to the one intended.
I'm very impressed that the apostrophe police has it's own network of informants. It's not a proper police force without snouts touts. Where would you get the budget for this?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on August 12, 2010, 02:28:41 PM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain
You cant be offside if you receive the ball directly from a goalkick.

BUT THE BALL WAS PASSED (by the receiver) TO THE GOALSCORER WHO WAS IN AN OFFSIDE POSITION.

Yes we know that Main Street.

But Shay Given's protests, in my opinion, were because of Higuain, that's what he was pointing at. Di Maria wasn't an obvious offside, certainly from Given's angle.

I didn't know the rule. I admit, until Razor told us.
As we know by now, when Shay runs to the linesman at full speed to protest (3 games in a row?), he invariably has it right.
As a top goalkeeper, Shay has vision beyond us mere mortals.
Therefore it is reasonable to assume that Shay was protesting at the real offside, which actually was more obvious from the camera angle directly behind Shay.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 05:12:09 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must

Evidently so

Brilliant! I'd have missed this classic if someone hadn't sent me a PM about it. It's wonderful how a few sentences of near English can so effectively make a point, even if it's the opposite to the one intended.
I'm very impressed that the apostrophe police has it's own network of informants. It's not a proper police force without snouts touts. Where would you get the budget for this?

You're nicked!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on August 12, 2010, 08:37:33 PM
The time in the dying minutes when Mc Shane passed the ball 70 yards back to the keeper instead of playing it into the box was a disgrace. I nearly had a fit.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: paco on August 12, 2010, 10:03:06 PM
The time in the dying minutes when Mc Shane passed the ball 70 yards back to the keeper instead of playing it into the box was a disgrace. I nearly had a fit.

He's brutal. I feel bad when I watch him because he's always gonna be made the scapegoat, the poor lad can't help himself!
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: passedit on August 12, 2010, 10:49:31 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must

Evidently so

Brilliant! I'd have missed this classic if someone hadn't sent me a PM about it. It's wonderful how a few sentences of near English can so effectively make a point, even if it's the opposite to the one intended.
I'm very impressed that the apostrophe police has it's own network of informants. It's not a proper police force without snouts touts. Where would you get the budget for this?

You're nicked!!

I know ignorance is no defence in law but you're gonna have to enlighten me?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on August 13, 2010, 12:42:37 AM
Not worth bothering about.
But who knows what happens behind the scenes in the mundane world of devoted apostrophe watchers,  a misspelled word -  a missing apostrophe - an alternate but opposite interpretation to what you intended -  has hit the apostrophe watcher's jackpot. Your post may yet be nominated for the front page of the Apostrophe Times - Sept issue.     Better than sex, or so I'm told.
   
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 13, 2010, 08:48:42 AM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must

Evidently so

Brilliant! I'd have missed this classic if someone hadn't sent me a PM about it. It's wonderful how a few sentences of near English can so effectively make a point, even if it's the opposite to the one intended.
I'm very impressed that the apostrophe police has it's own network of informants. It's not a proper police force without snouts touts. Where would you get the budget for this?

You're nicked!!

I know ignorance is no defence in law but you're gonna have to enlighten me?

In your post you used "it's" twice.  One was correct.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on August 13, 2010, 12:37:16 PM
Not worth bothering about.
But who knows what happens behind the scenes in the mundane world of devoted apostrophe watchers,  a misspelled word -  a missing apostrophe - an alternate but opposite interpretation to what you intended -  has hit the apostrophe watcher's jackpot. Your post may yet be nominated for the front page of the Apostrophe Times - Sept issue.     Better than sex, or so I'm told.   

You should try sex. Then you'll be able to put that one to bed, so to speak.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on August 13, 2010, 12:57:19 PM
Not worth bothering about.
But who knows what happens behind the scenes in the mundane world of devoted apostrophe watchers,  a misspelled word -  a missing apostrophe - an alternate but opposite interpretation to what you intended -  has hit the apostrophe watcher's jackpot. Your post may yet be nominated for the front page of the Apostrophe Times - Sept issue.     Better than sex, or so I'm told.   

You should try sex. Then you'll be able to put that one to bed, so to speak.

Yes but the problem is he is an early riser, so to speak.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on August 13, 2010, 03:00:10 PM
What's the reasoning for the open end in the Aviva stadium?

Looks a bit silly but I'm sure there's some logical explaination I'm unaware of.

No logical reason - politically (i.e. planning) influential residents who want to see the sun at a particular time of the day.

Jaysus, I don't think you can blame the residents for wanting some sun in their houses Billy, if that stand was 3 tiers high like the rest they might as well move up to the Artic for all the sunlight they'd see. Think I read somewhere that the IRFU have been buying up them houses as they come to market and they will be able modify the stadium if planning permission for that end is ever granted...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: red hander on August 13, 2010, 04:26:12 PM
From the FAI


The Football Association of Ireland can today (August 13) confirm that notification has been received from the SFZ (Slovakia FA) which states that there will be a change of venue for the UEFA Championship, Group B qualifier which will take place on October 12, 2010.


The Slovakian FA, had previously confirmed formally and in writing in that the game would take place in Bratislava but new correspondence received from the SFZ, has now stated that they have changed their mind and want to host the game in the city of Zilina.


In response, the Football Association of Ireland has replied to the SFZ and UEFA on behalf of the Irish fans who have already made travel arrangements for the European Championship qualifier, asking them to maintain their original and formally notified statement that they would play the game in Bratislava.

Total pisser if the Slovakians get their way, have already made all the arrangements for Bratislava and I'm sure there are plenty more in the same boat
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on August 14, 2010, 12:45:15 AM
The Bratislava stadium was planned to be demolished sometime, sounds like they got the go ahead.
The IT reported at the end of July that the Slovak FA had decided anyway to confirm the fixture for Bratislava.
Now they want to change the fixture to an 11,000 stadium way out in the sticks.
There is a 60 day notice needed and we are passed that now, I suppose that's why the FAI can lodge an objection.

I was planning to go, but feck, another leg in the journey, towards the arse end of Slovakia where match tickets would be a premium, is not my bottle of 8% Slovak beer.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 24, 2010, 08:13:44 PM
Did Roy Keane sing the national anthem when he was playing ? Can't seem to find a video on youtube to confirm or deny this but can't remember him singing it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on September 01, 2010, 03:32:25 PM
Republic of Ireland squad to face Armenia and Andorra:

Goalkeepers

Shay Given, Keiren Westwood, Joe Murphy.

Defenders

John O'Shea, Richard Dunne, Sean St Ledger, Greg Cunningham, Kevin Foley, Stephen Kelly, Paul McShane , Darren O'Dea, Kevin Kilbane.

Midfielders

Glenn Whelan, Darron Gibson, Paul Green, Liam Lawrence, Aiden McGeady, Andy Keogh, Damien Duff, Keith Fahey, Keith Treacy.

Forwards

Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle, Shane Long, Cillian Sheridan.

No McShane (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0831/mcshanep.html)  ;D ;D ;D

No Duff (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0830/duffd.html)  :( :( :(

Very tricky match in Yerevan on Friday. It's at 4 in the afternoon, which is a bit shit. A lot of the probable first team are either out of favour with their clubs, or struggling with injury at the minute. Not looking like there'll be much on the bench either if things aren't going well. A 1-0 win would be fantastic.

Guessing it'll be something like this:

Given

O'Shea  St. Ledger  Dunne  Kilbane

Lawrence  Green  Whelan  McGeady

Keane  Doyle
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on September 01, 2010, 03:39:46 PM
I hope Dunne if fit for Friday.  Though McShane has played centre back before so we're ok there.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0901/ireland.html
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: red hander on September 01, 2010, 05:30:49 PM
Any updates on the venue for Slovakia?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 01, 2010, 05:34:10 PM
I hope Dunne if fit for Friday.  Though McShane has played centre back before so we're ok there.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0901/ireland.html

Is McShane not out injured?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2010, 05:35:34 PM
Quote
Though McShane has played centre back before so we're ok there.

Ok and McShane in the same sentence. Very strange  :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2010, 05:36:04 PM
I hope Dunne if fit for Friday.  Though McShane has played centre back before so we're ok there.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0901/ireland.html

Is McShane not out injured?

Hopefully  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 02, 2010, 11:25:37 AM
We've every chance tomorrow with the team featured on the poster outside the ground in Algeria:

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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GAA_Punter on September 02, 2010, 11:45:55 AM
McShane withdrawal from Ireland squad sees bookmaker slash odds on an Irish victory
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/09/02/mcshane-withdrawal-from-ireland-squad-sees-bookmaker-slash-odds-on-an-irish-victory/


Bookies get some sense at last ...lol
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: omagh_gael on September 02, 2010, 04:34:28 PM
We've every chance tomorrow with the team featured on the poster outside the ground in Algeria:

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We're not Republic of Ireland we're Northern Irrrreland!

Doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 02, 2010, 05:19:27 PM
We've every chance tomorrow with the team featured on the poster outside the ground in Algeria:

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Is that real or a Photoshop job?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 02, 2010, 06:47:59 PM
No it's real alright. Gets a mention in this evening's Herald.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on September 03, 2010, 04:54:10 PM
Halftime. 0-0.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on September 03, 2010, 05:43:37 PM
One up, Fahy!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 03, 2010, 06:00:12 PM
Have to be happy with that.

Thought Lawerence was excellent as was Doyle,also impressed with St Ledger.
That Green fella doesn't seem up to it,reminds me a bit of McShane which isn't a good thing,is Gibson injured? I'm not a huge fan of Gibson either but I think he be better than Green.
Delighted for Fahy,anytime I see him with Birmingham he always impresses me and I think he should be close to a starting spot.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: red hander on September 03, 2010, 06:02:16 PM
Aye, happy with that, considering the heat in Yerevan.  There was about 15 minutes in the second half where it looked a bit hairy but you always have confidence when Shay's between the posts
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 03, 2010, 06:30:01 PM
Only saw the second half but Kevin Doyle like his name sake Johnny is a superb team player, excellent work-rate and great attitude was very very good today. Good result for Ireland.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on September 03, 2010, 06:55:42 PM
Very dodgy there, was convinced we'd give away the usual late goal. Thought Doyle was terrific. Lawrence was alright, but some of his set pieces, usually his strong suit, weren't great. Same old with McGeady, lots of huff and puff but little end product. Worrying that Keane was so profligate, we'll need his goals against the better teams. Green looked average at best in the middle, will do well to hold onto his place. Back four just about held on, Dunne doesn't look 100% and Kilbane's legs have well and truly gone. Coleman or Cunningham can't be brought through soon enough for me.

Armenia are pretty useless, worse than I thought they'd be. I expect the other big teams in the group to win there too, so that result really just keeps us ticking over.

Andorra should be a formality. That said, we never hammer teams so I wouldn't be surprised if it was as little as 2-0.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bud Wiser on September 03, 2010, 07:38:28 PM
Brian Cody needs to be manager for the next game because Robbie Keane needs to be dropped and nobody wants to do it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on September 03, 2010, 10:14:16 PM
Richard Saddler is good in the analysis stakes.  When will get a chance with Giles/Dunphy/Brady. 

He has the understated manner that would mean it would be interesting with Dunphy. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 03, 2010, 10:18:16 PM
Richard Saddler is good in the analysis stakes.  When will get a chance with Giles/Dunphy/Brady. 

He has the understated manner that would mean it would be interesting with Dunphy.

Saddler is a straight shooter - have the experience of playing football at a very high level but don't think he was ever mentioned it.  I guess I mean he isn't trying to be OTT and say things just for the sake of it and be controversial
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on September 03, 2010, 11:27:53 PM
Well pleased with the win. Team ethic has come on leaps and bounds these past 2 years.
First real game for Green, he did as well as Andrews or Whelan did in their early days. If he cuts out the mistakes he will be excellent backup in the squad. Making mistakes is not the norm for Green, Trap puts it down to nerves/anxiety. Trap is coolness personified.
Kilbane just about did enough, he was made to work in defense against a good winger, had just enough pace if he had a 10m start and he didn't get much support. He got forward to support the attack on plenty of occasions and his distribution was sound. KK had a decent enough game.
Imo, on average over the last few years, Doyle has been our top player, since his first real game game for us against Germany in Stuttgart.
Other notable results
France beaten at home by Belarus.
And the humdinger game of the  evening, Portugal 4 Cyprus 4 .
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on September 04, 2010, 12:49:36 PM
Green is getting away way too softly here, he was absolutely rubbish. A terrible first half followed by a slightly improved second half. Definitely should have been substitued for Gibson early in the second half but I can only assume Trap didn't want to ruin his confidence.

Doyle was by far the stand out player on the pitch, not Lawerence as Kenny C noted. The number 18 for Armenia was very good also though. Good result, not a good performance but understandabe given the weather and the lack of games most of the players have had. Hopefully we'll stick our chances on Tuesday, which I have a feeling we will.  :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on September 04, 2010, 01:26:07 PM
Brian Cody needs to be manager for the next game because Robbie Keane needs to be dropped and nobody wants to do it.


Dead right, he was disgraceful (again). The rest of the team working like dogs and he was frankly reminiscant of the "goal hanger" in the play ground (except the goal hanger would usually score when the chance came). Though I wouln't drop him just yet. Robbie will no doubt extend his international scoring record in the next game. These are the ones he thrives in.

Doyle was sensational, fair play to him. Like Fahey too. Most of the team did fine but I'm very worried about St Ledger and Kilbane. Accidents waiting to happen the pair of them. Good enough result and fully deserved.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on September 04, 2010, 01:44:22 PM
Robbie Keane disgraceful again!
Get over yourself.
The morons of football punditry.
He has been our outstanding striker for the past 12 years, most probably our all time best striker and still with a few years of top class quality left.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on September 04, 2010, 03:09:17 PM
Too right, Robbie was not good yesterday but it is incredible the levels of criticism this guy gets off his own supporters, shows just how ignorant most football fans are. For example, Kevin Doyle may have been brilliant yesterday and he always works harder than any of his teammates but he wouldn't score in month of sundays and Robbie is just so much more talented than Doyle, yet there is never a bad word said about Doyle.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on September 04, 2010, 03:31:28 PM
Too right, Robbie was not good yesterday but it is incredible the levels of criticism this guy gets off his own supporters, shows just how ignorant most football fans are. For example, Kevin Doyle may have been brilliant yesterday and he always works harder than any of his teammates but he wouldn't score in month of sundays and Robbie is just so much more talented than Doyle, yet there is never a bad word said about Doyle.


Because he always empties himself.

Sure Liam Brady is more talented than the lot of them - lets stick him in for the next match.  ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on September 04, 2010, 03:55:25 PM
Robbie is just so much more talented than Doyle

Wouldn't agree with that. Keane may still be a better finisher, Doyle is light years ahead in other aspects of forward play. I'd almost say Doyle would be a bigger miss for us than Keane these days.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: boojangles on September 04, 2010, 03:55:29 PM
Brian Cody needs to be manager for the next game because Robbie Keane needs to be dropped and nobody wants to do it.


Dead right, he was disgraceful (again). The rest of the team working like dogs and he was frankly reminiscant of the "goal hanger" in the play ground (except the goal hanger would usually score when the chance came). Though I wouln't drop him just yet. Robbie will no doubt extend his international scoring record in the next game. These are the ones he thrives in.
Doyle was sensational, fair play to him. Like Fahey too. Most of the team did fine but I'm very worried about St Ledger and Kilbane. Accidents waiting to happen the pair of them. Good enough result and fully deserved.

Just remind me who scored away to Italy and France in the last campaign???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on September 04, 2010, 04:03:33 PM
Doyle can only be said to be lightyears ahead of Keane in two areas of his play, work-rate and ability to win the ball in the air. Keane's touch, finishing, off-the-ball movement and passing (especially) are well ahead of Doyles.

Quote
Because he always empties himself.

Sure Liam Brady is more talented than the lot of them - lets stick him in for the next match.  ::)

The point is Doyle gets overrated because he works incredibly hard (sometimes without much inteligence) whereas Keane gets underrated because he moans and appears to be a less honest player than Doyle.

Doyle man only be more important to Ireland because every single pass is aimed as it his head and so the responsibility lies with him in providing assists. If Keane doesn't play Ireland don't score, simple as.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on September 04, 2010, 04:07:46 PM
Do people honestly think Robbie Keane is a good finisher?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on September 04, 2010, 04:14:45 PM
He's a good finisher. A level down from world class. Not as good as Torres but better than say, Berbatov, for example.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on September 04, 2010, 04:24:28 PM
Do people honestly think Robbie Keane is a good finisher?
If you have to ask that question, this analysis business is a good bit beyond you.
I can't count the number of times Robbie Keane has dug us out of a hole to live for another day.

An atrocious miss last night. Made amends by good intelligent play to hold the ball for Doyle to lay it off to Fahey.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on September 04, 2010, 04:40:26 PM
Green is getting away way too softly here, he was absolutely rubbish. A terrible first half followed by a slightly improved second half. Definitely should have been substitued for Gibson early in the second half but I can only assume Trap didn't want to ruin his confidence.
Assume all you want but Trap was not shy to substitute Keogh in Italy after 25 minutes. If Trap felt he had to substitute Green he would have done so without the slightest regard for the player's confidence. Dunne made 2 horrific mistakes, Green made 3 or 4, but the rest of his play was adequate for a pressure game in a competitive debut. The only alternative to Green was Gibson and quite frankly Green's effective workrate puts him ahead of Gibson atm, in the Irish set up.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on September 04, 2010, 04:45:00 PM
Do people honestly think Robbie Keane is a good finisher?
If you have to ask that question, this analysis business is a good bit beyond you.
I can't count the number of times Robbie Keane has dug us out of a hole to live for another day.

An atrocious miss last night. Made amends by good intelligent play to hold the ball for Doyle to lay it off to Fahey.


Which miss was the atrocious one? I think there were a few.

He lost the ball before Doyle came to the rescue and dug it out for Fahey.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BennyHarp on September 04, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
I cant believe the grief robbie keane gets on here - he may not be the force he was but he is most definately worth his place on that team! Its not as if we are blessed with loads of top strikers to replace him!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Boycey on September 04, 2010, 04:54:30 PM
Green is getting away way too softly here, he was absolutely rubbish. A terrible first half followed by a slightly improved second half. Definitely should have been substitued for Gibson early in the second half but I can only assume Trap didn't want to ruin his confidence.
Assume all you want but Trap was not shy to substitute Keogh in Italy after 25 minutes. If Trap felt he had to substitute Green he would have done so without the slightest regard for the player's confidence. Dunne made 2 horrific mistakes, Green made 3 or 4, but the rest of his play was adequate for a pressure game in a competitive debut. The only alternative to Green was Gibson and quite frankly Green's effective workrate puts him ahead of Gibson atm, in the Irish set up.

Surely the only reason Green is playing instead of Gibson is that he's being playing regular club footie at the start of this season wheras Gibson hasn't?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 04, 2010, 05:06:35 PM
Green is getting away way too softly here, he was absolutely rubbish. A terrible first half followed by a slightly improved second half. Definitely should have been substitued for Gibson early in the second half but I can only assume Trap didn't want to ruin his confidence.
Assume all you want but Trap was not shy to substitute Keogh in Italy after 25 minutes. If Trap felt he had to substitute Green he would have done so without the slightest regard for the player's confidence. Dunne made 2 horrific mistakes, Green made 3 or 4, but the rest of his play was adequate for a pressure game in a competitive debut. The only alternative to Green was Gibson and quite frankly Green's effective workrate puts him ahead of Gibson atm, in the Irish set up.

Surely the only reason Green is playing instead of Gibson is that he's being playing regular club footie at the start of this season wheras Gibson hasn't?

I dunno,I'd say he was picked on merit from his decent enough performances in the games against Algeria and Paraguay.

I cant believe the grief robbie keane gets on here - he may not be the force he was but he is most definately worth his place on that team! Its not as if we are blessed with loads of top strikers to replace him!

Nor can I.



Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on September 04, 2010, 05:13:15 PM
I wasn't keeping up to date but can someone tell me why these international games were all played on Friday instead of Saturday?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on September 04, 2010, 05:14:49 PM
I cant believe the grief robbie keane gets on here - he may not be the force he was but he is most definately worth his place on that team! Its not as if we are blessed with loads of top strikers to replace him!


Well I can't believe people don't see what I see. He's worth his place on the team for the reason you outline. I just wish he'd try a bit harder and be a bit braver and more honest. Anyway, I'd better stop or he might read this and go crying on the Late Late show again.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 04, 2010, 05:16:56 PM
I wasn't keeping up to date but can someone tell me why these international games were all played on Friday instead of Saturday?

So players can get back to their clubs a day earlier ahead of the weekend club games I think,games are now on Friday's and Tuesday's
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on September 06, 2010, 01:22:38 PM
Green is getting away way too softly here, he was absolutely rubbish. A terrible first half followed by a slightly improved second half. Definitely should have been substitued for Gibson early in the second half but I can only assume Trap didn't want to ruin his confidence.
Assume all you want but Trap was not shy to substitute Keogh in Italy after 25 minutes. If Trap felt he had to substitute Green he would have done so without the slightest regard for the player's confidence. Dunne made 2 horrific mistakes, Green made 3 or 4, but the rest of his play was adequate for a pressure game in a competitive debut. The only alternative to Green was Gibson and quite frankly Green's effective workrate puts him ahead of Gibson atm, in the Irish set up.

Surely the only reason Green is playing instead of Gibson is that he's being playing regular club footie at the start of this season wheras Gibson hasn't?
That's not the main reason. If Gibson had the some of the qualities Green had, then he would be picked ahead.
Green is picked because he is a hard working grafter. Gibson has more football ability in his big toe than Green will ever have but he is not a grafter. Trap's team needs a grafter at CM in order to function. Gibson just does not have that aggression.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on September 06, 2010, 01:46:36 PM
Now that I think of it, I know I mentioned Gibson as the man to come in for Green mainly because I thought there was a chance Trap might actually start Gibson, but Fahey in centre-mid tomorrow night would surely be worth a look. He can't do much worse than Green the last night, his confidence is up, he would provide that bit of creativity in the middle while I assume still "grafting" and he has experience there. Given that it's Andorra it would seem to be less of a risk. Anyway, hope he changes around the centre-mid a bit.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on September 06, 2010, 02:48:33 PM
If Green or Whelan got injured or needed to be rested (yellow card?), then Gibson would be first choice to stand in.
But if both Green and Whelan are fit, Trap will stick with them. Fahey would be used at LM instead of McGeady.
But seeing as McGeady is the only winger, I expect Trap to go with him.
Trap is not going to change the formation just because it's Andorra, at least not unless he has no other choice.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on September 06, 2010, 03:29:42 PM
I cant believe the grief robbie keane gets on here - he may not be the force he was but he is most definately worth his place on that team! Its not as if we are blessed with loads of top strikers to replace him!

Nor can I.
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Robbie Keane's an Irish legend and is still the best we have.

Re midfield, what about young McCarthy from Wigan? impressed everytime I have seen him play, and whats more, he is very comfortable (very un-ireland-like) on the ball, bit of class about him
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on September 06, 2010, 03:35:37 PM
I cant believe the grief robbie keane gets on here - he may not be the force he was but he is most definately worth his place on that team! Its not as if we are blessed with loads of top strikers to replace him!
Nor can I.

Robbie Keane's an Irish legend and is still the best we have.

Re midfield, what about young McCarthy from Wigan? impressed everytime I have seen him play, and whats more, he is very comfortable (very un-ireland-like) on the ball, bit of class about him[/quote]

You've answered your own question.  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: trileacman on September 06, 2010, 04:29:24 PM
True McCarthy is a talented player but that's exactly why he wouldn't get in the side. Depressing as it is McGeady is the only player worth watching in an Ireland match (entertainment wise), and despite this he is first to go off or get a bad rap. This is understandable as he never scores or creates goals but just does lots of impressive moves that end in nothing.

The rest of them are truly awful to watch but they get results. Given and Dunne are too great players but Dunne is still a piano mover. Brawn and intellect winning over skill. I loved to see a few, even one, highly skilled player on the ball to hold down a position in the team. I mean don't get me wrong Keane isnt too bad but alot of his play is clumsy as his his shooting. Great man for getting in good positions and judging the play but still not one to wacth like Villa, Rooney or Forlan. Not that I'm saying we have one of these players knocking about in the leagues but just someone who tries to play with style, fluency, beauty. Chippy was like that but they are seldom few about these days. Instead we get trotted out the same players in different positions. Green/Whelan/McShane/Kilbane/Lawrence/Doyle/O'Shea. Grafters not stylists. Thinkers not entertainers. There will be ten replies to this saying its better to get the results than to entertain but I say balls to that. I'd rather see us lose playing well than lose playing badly.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on September 06, 2010, 05:00:06 PM
You've answered your own question.  ;)

Well on the ball is not good enough, there are other duties which a CM has to perform for us.
McCarthy has been used as a sub in a friendly and did good out wide on the left. He pulled out of the 2 friendlies before the WC which did not do his chances any good. Green was used and took his chance well. He was excellent in the u21 game recently. I guess he was used in the u21 to stop the rot there. Now that they are finished their campaign I guess he has a very chance to be called up to the senior squad.
If McCarthy is to be used, he would used out wide, on the left or the right of midfield.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on September 06, 2010, 05:16:51 PM
Instead we get trotted out the same players in different positions. Green/Whelan/McShane/Kilbane/Lawrence/Doyle/O'Shea. Grafters not stylists. Thinkers not entertainers. There will be ten replies to this saying its better to get the results than to entertain but I say balls to that. I'd rather see us lose playing well than lose playing badly.
Every team has its grafters. Roy Keane was a box to box grafter. There is no reason why a midfield grafter can not be at the top of his profession.
We have no player who is anywhere near Brady's class, not even on the same planet as Brady. Maybe you imagine we have some extremely talented players lurking around the leagues.
Brady was part of the best ever assembled Irish team who managed to play worse more often than play good.
The good performances were legendary but the bad performances were many and soul destroying, ultimately crippling the confidence and morale. Assembling a team from a bunch of your best players who come together on occasions is not as easy as you might think.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: trileacman on September 06, 2010, 07:59:24 PM
Instead we get trotted out the same players in different positions. Green/Whelan/McShane/Kilbane/Lawrence/Doyle/O'Shea. Grafters not stylists. Thinkers not entertainers. There will be ten replies to this saying its better to get the results than to entertain but I say balls to that. I'd rather see us lose playing well than lose playing badly.
Every team has its grafters. Yes but 11 of them? Roy Keane was a box to box grafter. Th ere is no reason why a midfield grafter can not be at the top of his profession. I agree, You need a midfield grafter, a great one if you are not that talented a side. I don't paticulary like two of them though. It negates our attack too much, which is why we struggle to beat a team as dire as Armenia. I would like to see more attack-minded man alongside whelan/andrews/Green. The great thing about Irish teams is their absolute dedication and work-rate. I think a more attacking MF with a good work ethic would stand to us better than a grafting donkey on the ball. by playing two holding MF and a defensive enough winger we negate our attack to such a degree that if we concede a goal it is impossible to take 3 points with us.
We have no player who is anywhere near Brady's class, not even on the same planet as Brady. Maybe you imagine we have some extremely talented players lurking around the leagues. Agree. Stephen McGrannies is pretty good but f**k him. I think A. Reid is next on the list, wish he was about the squad, would change the dynamic of the team no end.Hold the ball and thread some passes, aspects of our game extremely deficent for a team of our ranking. S. Reid after that. Again f**k him. Probably Fahy ??? after this but he's a long way off the first three I named.
Brady was part of the best ever assembled Irish team who managed to play worse more often than play good.
The good performances were legendary but the bad performances were many and soul destroying, ultimately crippling the confidence and morale. I'll take your word for it. Assembling a team from a bunch of your best players who come together on occasions is not as easy as you might think. True. Trap's a smarter soccer man than me, just wish he would incorporate some offensive elements.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: trileacman on September 06, 2010, 08:01:31 PM
Many heading to it? I was going to go but 50 yo's yo's put an end to my aspirations.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on September 06, 2010, 08:11:18 PM
Heading down,but hope the weather picks up a bit..any pre-match pints men?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on September 06, 2010, 08:37:38 PM
Have to agree with trileacman, the main reason I look forward to Irish games (these days) is to watch McGeady, even if he hasn't fully developed. He makes fools out of defenders, I get the impression that one day he is going to explode potential-wise, a bit like Ronaldo for Utd a few years back.

Also agree that there is no reason why Fahey or Gibson shouldn't start ahead of Green other than the fact that Trap is overly cautious. And I agree that Stephen Ireland and Andy Reid are probably the only other two" entertainers" that are Irish. Here's hoping those situations resolve themselves sooner rather later. I won't hold my breath though!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hound on September 06, 2010, 08:46:28 PM
Have to agree with trileacman, the main reason I look forward to Irish games (these days) is to watch McGeady, even if he hasn't fully developed. He makes fools out of defenders, I get the impression that one day he is going to explode potential-wise, a bit like Ronaldo for Utd a few years back.


McGeady has had some great flashes when playing for Ireland, but very little in end product.

Liam Lawrence certainly completed outplayed him the last day - be interesting to compare the two tomorrow. I wonder did Celtic make a mistake in not buying Lawrence when they had the chance this summer...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on September 06, 2010, 11:12:27 PM
McGeady looked sharp enough on Friday. Contrary to prejudiced opinion  :) his end product was good enough even by quality standards.
He took the only corner from the left, the best set piece of the evening, which was expertly laid on a sixpence for St Ledger to head home, but the goalie made a good save. He created the space for himself after a darting run to have a shot, decent enough, the best shot by an Irish player all night. His other 2 crosses  into the box, one low -  created mayhem in their box  a few seconds into the 2nd half, the other was an exquisitely hit 40m pass which landed on Lawrence's foot in the box. Other than that, whenever the ball came his way he either held it up nicely or won the free. His covering play was decent but Kilbane needs better protection. When Kilbane comes forward and the ball is lost we get into trouble.

Trap will not change his midfield strategy. We don't play through midfield. We play the ball long to Doyle. Midfield pass the ball back to the back 4 or find the wide midfielders. We don't have Stephen Ireland available and Andy Reid  (injured now) might cut the mustard if he was used like Fahey was. But in these things I suppose Trap has other reasons why. In any case Reid does not play at cm for his club. Steven Reid was the real McCoy for Ireland at CM but he got injured.
We have by our standards an abundance of wide midfielders and a sparsity of good all round central midfielders. Trap's stratagem makes total sense. I found myself in total agreement with everything Kenny Cunningham was saying on the rte commentary. The offensive shift in our game has to come from the full backs. As soon as Coleman improves on his defensive duties and Cunningham gets more experience I think we will have a team ready to top the group. McCarthy coming through, Hunt on the mend and Duff is have an Indian summer to end his career at the top.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 07, 2010, 09:24:28 AM
50 euro to see An-fecking-dorra. No way Pedro. Them lads will stick 11 behind the ball and defend like mad. It won't make for pleasant viewing. I'll watch it on the telly methinks.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Geoff Tipps on September 07, 2010, 04:58:04 PM
Russia are a goal down to Slovakia @ HT.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on September 07, 2010, 05:59:24 PM
Russia beaten at home good result for us?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on September 07, 2010, 06:54:59 PM
Russia beaten at home good result for us?


not really.

Russia will be out all guns blazing in lansdowne next month, they will be keen to get a win and back on track

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on September 07, 2010, 06:57:55 PM
Yeah have to agree with the worker there, will probably make Ireland's game V Russia next month even harder. However, if we were to manage a win V the Russians then that could pretty much eliminate them from the reckoning, so should be a cracker of game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on September 07, 2010, 07:06:49 PM
Slovakia will be expecting to top the group after that result tonight
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerry on September 07, 2010, 07:36:42 PM
link for exiles

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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on September 07, 2010, 07:41:01 PM
Well that fair play speech thing was embarrassing
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 07, 2010, 07:41:13 PM
This UEFA fair play annoucement yoke is some pile of nonsense....


even worse now that the microphones didn't work
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: paco on September 07, 2010, 07:48:52 PM
Not that much of a crowd. 50 Euros is very steep.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: red hander on September 07, 2010, 08:08:57 PM
Fair play to Zinedine Kilbane ... he's been some servant
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 07, 2010, 08:14:40 PM
Fair play to Zinedine Kilbane ... he's been some servant

Hasn;t missed a game since 1999... unreal really
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 07, 2010, 08:26:11 PM
Some boring shite....

and just as I say that... what a cracker from Doyler!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on September 07, 2010, 08:27:59 PM
boring yes but a nice goal there, game should be done & dusted now, might switch over to see can Rooney score again  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 07, 2010, 08:33:11 PM
well fook me...  2 - 1

some strike though in fairness
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on September 07, 2010, 08:35:30 PM
Andorra deserved that 2-1 is about right at half time
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 07, 2010, 08:42:52 PM
Andorra deserved that 2-1 is about right at half time

They deserved a goal with their second or third shot after 29% possession in the half??? 

Wouldn't agree there at all... Ireland aren't great but that doesn't mean Andorra deserved a goal
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on September 07, 2010, 08:50:02 PM
Well what i mean is.. Ireland deserved to be leading no more
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 07, 2010, 09:00:26 PM
Great to see Keane score.. lovely tidy passing move... there are plenty more goals here for the taking
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on September 07, 2010, 09:10:45 PM
Scotland 0-1 Liechtenstein  :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2010, 09:14:46 PM
Was a great goal Liechtenstein scored
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on September 07, 2010, 09:33:23 PM
Jaysus we are hard to watch when we have to try and play football constructively. McGeady is one of those players who you'd love to throttle cos the amount of times he picks the wrong option is incredible. Anyway we'll here the usual tripe re a professional job etc, 3 points, top of the table, they were well organised etc.
The amazing thing is that the majority of these lads ply their trade in the PL on about 40K a week.   
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tyssam5 on September 07, 2010, 09:37:21 PM
Yer man Kelly on the right wing couldn't cross his fingers.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 07, 2010, 10:25:26 PM
Where were these €50 tickets for,mine was €70
Boring enough match but some nice goals.
3 points is all that matters though
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: trileacman on September 07, 2010, 10:28:52 PM
Where were these €50 tickets for,mine was €70
Boring enough match but some nice goals.
3 points is all that matters though
on ticketmaster. Cheapest I could find was 50. Mind you that was probably a seat behind stone wall.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: trileacman on September 07, 2010, 10:40:00 PM
Jaysus we are hard to watch when we have to try and play football constructively. McGeady is one of those players who you'd love to throttle cos the amount of times he picks the wrong option is incredible. Anyway we'll here the usual tripe re a professional job etc, 3 points, top of the table, they were well organised etc.
The amazing thing is that the majority of these lads ply their trade in the PL on about 40K a week.

McGeady IMO was our best player, made a lot of good runs and crosses that other people other people f**k up. goal-scoring passes to Keogh and Kilbane who couldn't take their goals. Okay he makes mistakes but is by far and away our best outlet in attack. Our other tactic is to aim for the noggin of "5 ft 11 1⁄2 in" Kevin Doyle and against two of the worst back fours in Europe it has succeeded. When we play a team with two decent centre backs of good aerial ability we are fooked. In fact if Armenia had Dunne and St ledger at the back we would never have scored. Now I'm not a celtic die-hard or McGeady's brother but I just think he takes alot of flack for playing quite well. He's the only player on the team able to take a man on and beat him with ease. Crossing is poor but all Lawrence does is pass back to the full back and his one redeemable attribute is to kick a good free.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on September 07, 2010, 11:08:22 PM
Was very interesting there, had a look on the boards.ie site at the Ireland thread just to see what Irish supporters were saying about the match. An unbelievable amount of abuse being directed at McGeady. It's funny because I can understand why people might regard him as being frustrating and maybe he didnt have a great game but to say he's shite and not worth his place on the team has to be just plain wrong. In my eyes he is the only attacking outlet, actually, as far as I can see, the only player on the team/squad who has any bit of pace.

Was also interesting how in his interview Trap made the effort to single out McGeady. In my opinon either because he genuinely felt he was brilliant or because he wants to boost his confidence. Either way Trap knows he is a talented player.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: trileacman on September 07, 2010, 11:41:41 PM
Was very interesting there, had a look on the boards.ie site at the Ireland thread just to see what Irish supporters were saying about the match. An unbelievable amount of abuse being directed at McGeady. It's funny because I can understand why people might regard him as being frustrating and maybe he didnt have a great game but to say he's shite and not worth his place on the team has to be just plain wrong. In my eyes he is the only attacking outlet, actually, as far as I can see, the only player on the team/squad who has any bit of pace.

Was also interesting how in his interview Trap made the effort to single out McGeady. In my opinon either because he genuinely felt he was brilliant or because he wants to boost his confidence. Either way Trap knows he is a talented player.

Did any one else notice just how unbelievably slow Lawrence was to fetch that ball that was running out towards the end-line when he dribbled into the box? It was tara altogether!

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on September 07, 2010, 11:46:06 PM
Yeah he's very slow in fairness, looks like he is always knackered too. Maybe a bit too much muscle on board.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on September 08, 2010, 07:51:16 AM
I agree that McGeady was our best attacking outlet but really at this stage of his career he should have more consistency in his final ball. That's why I said he's the most frustrating type of player because he has ability but unless he has an epiphany in Moscow he'll remain like that
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lynchbhoy on September 08, 2010, 09:47:36 AM
McGeady has always taken the wrong option. To be fair to him he is improving, but he and the rest of the Irish team need to take the simple option. Too slow to move the ball , the likes of mcgeady and lawrence need space and by the time the ball gets tothem they are closed down.
Thats brain dead soccer from Ireland - but its par for the course for a lot of modern teams.
Move the ball up, across midfield, an opponent comes within 20 yards, hit it back to the full back or centre half and then the keeper who bombs it up into the other box to his counterpart keeper. f**king hell.
This might be great practice for when Ireland play spain, but against andorra and armenia ffs !!

Ireland are improving I believe, but they need to up the tempo,move it wider sooner and have more movement from the two front men as Doyle with his back to goal knocking it on to Keane who may get in on goal , only to scuff it 9 times out of 10 is not a great attacking tactic imo.

If they cant get the ball early to mcgeady (in space) and cant play a faster tempo then its going to be more of the same.
However as international soccer is all on much the same level now, Ireland stand a good chance of qualifying. Only a few teams in the world are better than this it seems !
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on September 08, 2010, 09:50:12 AM
That was fairly muck. McGeady was his usual self, but I think you know what you are getting with him at this stage. In fairness he was involved in most good things Ireland did.

We are awful to watch though. Jaysus.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on September 08, 2010, 09:53:44 AM
Armenia showed last night they are no pushovers
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on September 08, 2010, 09:58:21 AM
If they cant get the ball early to mcgeady (in space) and cant play a faster tempo then its going to be more of the same.

McGeady will be back on the bench as soon as Duff gets over his knock. A fit Hunt is ahead in the pecking order too.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: anportmorforjfc on September 08, 2010, 10:17:35 AM
If they cant get the ball early to mcgeady (in space) and cant play a faster tempo then its going to be more of the same.

McGeady will be back on the bench as soon as Duff gets over his knock. A fit Hunt is ahead in the pecking order too.

I would agree with that aswell. He looked good against andorra ffs. All this talk about the player he is/going to be! Overrated imo
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Larry Duff on September 08, 2010, 10:22:48 AM
If they cant get the ball early to mcgeady (in space) and cant play a faster tempo then its going to be more of the same.

McGeady will be back on the bench as soon as Duff gets over his knock. A fit Hunt is ahead in the pecking order too.

That's quite sad really. McGeady, who along with Duff is one of the few players with the ability to commit defenders and cause the opposition problems. Neither player is helped by the fact that they get very poor service as the distribution from the defence is crap coupled with the lack of any real passing ability throughout the team. But rather than appeal for a bit more creativity in the team, people are happy enough just to replace him with someone who may well run all day for the team but couldn't trap a bag of cement.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on September 08, 2010, 10:28:49 AM
Quote
but couldn't trap a bag of cement.
:D :D :D

As Georgie said he traps the ball further than I can pass it!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: trileacman on September 08, 2010, 11:14:17 AM
If they cant get the ball early to mcgeady (in space) and cant play a faster tempo then its going to be more of the same.

McGeady will be back on the bench as soon as Duff gets over his knock. A fit Hunt is ahead in the pecking order too.
That scares me. When Ireland have that team out remind me to be several hundred miles from a t.v. somewhere like Antarctica or a remote island. (Rathlin would do.)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lynchbhoy on September 08, 2010, 11:38:00 AM
Duff has played well for Fulham last season at times, but he hasnt been the same since he left chelsea and had that bad inj.
Hunt is woeful imo. he is a worse loser of the ball than mcgeady is and maybe even a worse crosser!!
If mcgeady cannot be coached then he has to be benched. He needs an end product and if they cant sort him out in Russia, he might be unfixable.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on September 08, 2010, 12:01:06 PM
fierce bit of over reaction from last night. We've a very limited squad of average to decent players. Trap knows this more than you or I. Whilst its not pleasant on the eye (same as during Big Jack's tenure) we are set up to maximise what resources are available. So close to qualification for the world cup and 6 points from 2 games (one on the road). Whilst we were playing only Andorra last night, why would a manager (who has very limited time to work with a team and install a belief and certain playing style) change it to appease us or those 3 clowns in the studio (who are no more than human versions of the gutter press), then attempt to revert back to a more defence, battle hardy style when playing tougher opposition.

Id love to watch the boys in green play like Spain, but it wont happen. Have we been that brainwashed we're now disappointed with 6 points from 2 games with an average, but very big hearted team..honesty of effort Giles!

McGeady is fustrating at times for sure, but magical at times also. He has to be ahead of both Hunt and Duff. As it stands, we are 2 central midfielders away from a team that could compete with anyone

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lolafrola on September 08, 2010, 12:09:30 PM
Would it not be possible to play Duff on one wing and McGeady on the other with the two defensive midfielders doing what they do best?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on September 08, 2010, 12:11:03 PM
fierce bit of over reaction from last night. We've a very limited squad of average to decent players. Trap knows this more than you or I. Whilst its not pleasant on the eye (same as during Big Jack's tenure) we are set up to maximise what resources are available. So close to qualification for the world cup and 6 points from 2 games (one on the road). Whilst we were playing only Andorra last night, why would a manager (who has very limited time to work with a team and install a belief and certain playing style) change it to appease us or those 3 clowns in the studio (who are no more than human versions of the gutter press), then attempt to revert back to a more defence, battle hardy style when playing tougher opposition.

Didn't catch all the analysis, but from what I saw Brady, in particular, seemed very supportive of Trapattoni's approach.

McGeady is fustrating at times for sure, but magical at times also. He has to be ahead of both Hunt and Duff.

There's a reasonable argument that McGeady is a better option than Hunt, but he has a very long way to go to reach Duff's level in an Ireland jersey.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on October 04, 2010, 06:14:27 PM
Now official (after some optimistic reports)  Duff is out injured and Andrews not fit enough.

 Marc Wilson called up as back up at CM. Things have been moving for Wilson this year. He has done well to get a call up ahead of McCarthy.
Treacy from Preston - like McCarthy did last May- has pulled out of the squad quoting tiredness. Bad move. When your country calls, you turn up and let the FAI medics assess the situation.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: trileacman on October 04, 2010, 07:09:08 PM
Did you hear this rigmaroll of the four nations tournament. Suprised it didn't warrant one word on here last week for such a soccer (and nationalist) mad board. Are all 6 matches to be played in Aviva?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: red hander on October 04, 2010, 07:23:38 PM
Bad shortage of tickets for Slovakia away next Tuesday after the home association moved the game from Bratislava to Zilina.  Hoping to get sorted out over there, and at least the FAI are putting on a train for fans from Bratislava to Zilina
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on October 04, 2010, 09:53:23 PM
Did you hear this rigmaroll of the four nations tournament. Suprised it didn't warrant one word on here last week for such a soccer (and nationalist) mad board. Are all 6 matches to be played in Aviva?
On this board, like most Irish folk, they get more more excited by Rooney's adventures that what goes on in Ireland and more wound up by what's happening to Liverpool/ManU than with Bohemians.
I don't know much about any controversy around this 3 1/4  nations cup thing, I suspect the only ones would up by it are the OWC supporters.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 07, 2010, 01:41:23 PM
So, almost definitely going to be an unchanged lineup:

Given
O'Shea - St. Ledger - Dunne - Kilbane
Lawrence - Whelan - Green - McGeady
Keane - Doyle

A good few worries in there. Given, Keane and Whelan struggling to get games at their clubs. Dunne probably not 100%. Kilbane being Kilbane. Big question marks about Green at this level.

On the plus side, Lawrence has been getting regular games for the first time since he broke into the Irish team and McGeady has made a very good start at his new club by all accounts.

Good bit about the Russians in the Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/oct/07/russia-ireland-euro-2012-qualifiers
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: dublinfella on October 07, 2010, 04:15:17 PM
Did you hear this rigmaroll of the four nations tournament. Suprised it didn't warrant one word on here last week for such a soccer (and nationalist) mad board. Are all 6 matches to be played in Aviva?

Yes. Two games over 2 days this year and 4 over 4 next year.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on October 07, 2010, 06:32:48 PM
It's all about McGeady....I have a feeling he'll come of age tomorrow!!  :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 07, 2010, 07:00:24 PM
Is the Russia team up yet? a must win for qualification IMO
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Peter Solan the Great on October 07, 2010, 07:12:46 PM
Is the Russia team up yet? a must win for qualification IMO

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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on October 07, 2010, 10:14:50 PM
Is the Russia team up yet? a must win for qualification IMO

not released until an hr before kick off

Pavlychenko def out
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 07, 2010, 10:30:53 PM
Cheers The Worker for the more mature answer
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on October 08, 2010, 06:23:35 PM
Armenia 3 Slovakia 1!!


makes tonights game even more so important!!


COME ON YOU BOYS IN GREEN!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 08, 2010, 06:25:52 PM
Armenia 3 Slovakia 1!!


makes tonights game even more so important!!


COME ON YOU BOYS IN GREEN!!!

Flippin hell thats great - well only if we get a result tonight...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 07:05:37 PM
We need to win to make that result better
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tyssam5 on October 08, 2010, 07:37:05 PM
Any streams for this?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 07:40:44 PM
Any streams for this?

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=89928&part=sports
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 07:43:43 PM
Robbie Keane is a terrible singer  :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tyssam5 on October 08, 2010, 07:44:57 PM
Any streams for this?

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=89928&part=sports

Thanks!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 07:56:02 PM
aww well  :-\
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thebandit on October 08, 2010, 08:19:26 PM
Incompetence outside the ground and on the pitch :(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 08, 2010, 08:35:02 PM
Outclassed completely in that first half... and haven't the men on the field to turn it around either based on that  >:( >:(

Getting it hard to sit and watch it
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ExiledGael on October 08, 2010, 08:37:14 PM
Incompetence outside the ground and on the pitch :(

What's gone on outside the ground??
Totally outclassed is right. McGeady looks a threat, maybe, but it's hard to see us turning this around. They look like creating chances every time they cross the half way line.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 08, 2010, 08:38:48 PM
St. Ledger should have walked too for a terrible tackle...

Whelan and Green are completely useless... can't pass or create anything and I'm pretty sure Green has no first touch either...

Keane looks for too many flicks on... Doyle trying hard and I don't want to even mention McGeady on the wing...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 08:56:15 PM
Embarrassing performance
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 08, 2010, 09:00:06 PM
they could score another two here handy enough... Dunne is a cert to lose the head and get a yellow ruling him out of Tuesday's game.... St. Ledger is on thin ice too...  embarrassing is right but I hope it doesn't get shameful
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 08, 2010, 09:02:20 PM
By the way after watching nearly an hour of that carry on, how in the name of all that is good has Trap not made a switch????
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on October 08, 2010, 09:04:17 PM
Why is Whelan chewing gum? Headless performance!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 09:15:48 PM
Late comeback?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: FermGael on October 08, 2010, 09:15:55 PM
cheat
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 08, 2010, 09:16:46 PM
Late comeback?

I'd love to say yes but...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 09:21:50 PM
Late comeback?

I'd love to say yes but...

What about now...  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 08, 2010, 09:22:01 PM
Late comeback?

I'd love to say yes but...

Hold the phones...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 09:39:15 PM
Russia deserved the win! no complaints
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on October 08, 2010, 09:47:31 PM
Was St Ledger mugged in the penalty area in the last few seconds?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 08, 2010, 09:48:38 PM
Was there any contact with Robbie for the penalty? Glad we got it obviously, but they were a shambles up until that point and I hope Green and Whelan never start together again.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 08, 2010, 09:52:28 PM
Was there any contact with Robbie for the penalty? Glad we got it obviously, but they were a shambles up until that point and I hope Green and Whelan never start together again.

100% agree with that post
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 09:55:36 PM
Richard Dunne MOTM on RTE?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 08, 2010, 09:57:36 PM
Richard Dunne MOTM on RTE?

Aye madness... they really shouldn't feel it has to be an Irishman they give it to...


Very interesing interview from Dunne... very honest
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GBXII on October 08, 2010, 11:15:45 PM
Probably the most honest post-match interview I've ever heard from a soccer player...lets hope Trap didnt understand any of it, for Dunne's sake anyway!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on October 08, 2010, 11:18:18 PM
Apart from the penalty, can anyone tell me why Robbie Keane was still on he pitch at the end of the game. He was utter rubbish. He fell over every time the ball came near him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 08, 2010, 11:53:11 PM
No doubt about it folks we were feckin awful. Hoofin the ball up into the air at an altitude that would have pissed off even Jack Charlton. In a funny way I'm almost glad we didn't equalise because the thought of a Facebook campaign to offer the Russians the three points after the Dive of Rob affair would have been too much. We being a nation that rates fair play above everything else and all that.
Dunne MOTM-feck

Sure maybe we can bounce back
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 11:56:11 AM
Cast iron penalty, softly conceded by the defender who definitely clipped Robbie.
Usual moronic bull directed at Robbie from so called irish fans.
Lawrence, Doyle and Whelan were particularily atrocious last night but apart from McGeady and Long, the whole team from 1-11 were not at the races. I might have given the motm to the ball boy but even he was a bit slow.
Had to laugh though at Given berating the stretcher bearers to move faster and get the obviously injured played off, with more haste.




Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: INDIANA on October 09, 2010, 12:42:04 PM
Cast iron penalty, softly conceded by the defender who definitely clipped Robbie.
Usual moronic bull directed at Robbie from so called irish fans.
Lawrence, Doyle and Whelan were particularily atrocious last night but apart from McGeady and Long, the whole team from 1-11 were not at the races. I might have given the motm to the ball boy but even he was a bit slow.
Had to laugh though at Given berating the stretcher bearers to move faster and get the obviously injured played off, with more haste.
There was no contact.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 12:48:57 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on October 09, 2010, 01:06:30 PM
Cast iron penalty, softly conceded by the defender who definitely clipped Robbie.
Usual moronic bull directed at Robbie from so called irish fans.
Lawrence, Doyle and Whelan were particularily atrocious last night but apart from McGeady and Long, the whole team from 1-11 were not at the races. I might have given the motm to the ball boy but even he was a bit slow.
Had to laugh though at Given berating the stretcher bearers to move faster and get the obviously injured played off, with more haste.

Usual rubbish from the Keane supporters, defending him to the last. Interesting to hear no chear of Keano Keano from the fans last night after he scored, all the real fans must have stayed away!
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: INDIANA on October 09, 2010, 02:23:48 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

I agree.

Henry dives and he's a cheat

Keane dives and he's a hero.

You couldn't write the hypocrisy of it.

It shows where soccer is in Ireland when the only way we can score a goal against a decent side is using Wimbeldon tactics. Says everything.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Rav67 on October 09, 2010, 02:36:08 PM
When its 3 v 2 in central midfield, and neither of your 2 midfielders could trap a bag of cement, its always going to be an uphill struggle in the possession stakes.  Cannot understand Dunne getting MOTM given that Kerzakhov had such a good game and they could have scored another 2 or 3 goals.

Dunphy's post-match comments were harsh though - Gibson is an "awful footballer" and "completely brain-dead" - wil stuff to be saying about a young footballer, although I don't rate him much either.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 03:13:33 PM

 "There was no contact".
"Keane dives and he's a hero".

Stick to Bogball guys, you do not know the game of Soccer. Not even Ronaldo goes down when about to make contact in the box. Clear clip on Keane's left heel, the defender did not make the slightest complaint when penalty was awarded, did not even say  "ah Ref".
In fact, the only complaints, are the usual self loathing Irish folk who occasionally condescend to watch an Irish international game.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 09, 2010, 03:24:08 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

Don't watch it then,quite simple really.
You won't be much of a loss either.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 03:28:41 PM
In fact, the only complaints, are the usual self loathing Irish folk who occasionally condescend to watch an Irish international game.

What in the name of imperial hell is this supposed to mean?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 09, 2010, 03:29:06 PM
Incompetence outside the ground and on the pitch :(

What's gone on outside the ground??
Totally outclassed is right. McGeady looks a threat, maybe, but it's hard to see us turning this around. They look like creating chances every time they cross the half way line.

What happened outside ground?
I was at the game,there was a bit of trouble behind the goals alright,a Russian fan had to be escorted out.
I think he was verbally abusing Irish fans around him,everyone clapped when he was removed.
I had 4 Russian guys sitting beside me,very nice fellas had a good laugh with them.
At least something made me laugh on what was a truly awful performance,Kilbane is finished and Green isn't good enough IMHO.
Thought the peno was a bit soft but the free that was given before the first Russian goal looked very soft also from where I was sitting.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 03:36:38 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

Don't watch it then,quite simple really.
You won't be much of a loss either.

I wilt in the glare of such wit and wisdom.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 03:38:44 PM
In fact, the only complaints, are the usual self loathing Irish folk who occasionally condescend to watch an Irish international game.

What in the name of imperial hell is this supposed to mean?

People of a self flagellation nature who cannot look at an incident like this  objectively and come to a rational judgement of what happened and instead use their warped judgement of what happened as a stick to beat with . The rationality gets blinded by prejudice towards Keane, towards soccer, towards Ireland or any combination of the three.
Most times when Ireland get awarded a penalty it is regarded as down to luck by detractors. The last qualification campaign being also an example, Ireland were supposed to have had all the luck in order to finish 2nd, conveniently forgetting that Italy were fortunate to win in Montenegro, fortunate to get 2  incredible own goals in Georgia, a last gasp equaliser against us and a very fortunate last gasp winner against Cyprus.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 09, 2010, 03:40:50 PM
Richard Dunne MOTM on RTE?

Really is that who got it?
Are they not allowed to give it to the away team or something?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: King Henry on October 09, 2010, 03:44:15 PM
Sure ye know all about cheats in Meath don't ye Hardy so it must be easy for you to spot it in other sports.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on October 09, 2010, 03:48:07 PM

 "There was no contact".
"Keane dives and he's a hero".

Stick to Bogball guys, you do not know the game of Soccer.

I thought Shoccerball was Bogball coz its pure toilet.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: paco on October 09, 2010, 04:05:09 PM
What did Dunne say in the interview?
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on October 09, 2010, 04:15:58 PM
In fact, the only complaints, are the usual self loathing Irish folk who occasionally condescend to watch an Irish international game.

What in the name of imperial hell is this supposed to mean?

People of a self flagellation nature who cannot look at an incident like this  objectively and come to a rational judgement of what happened and instead use their warped judgement of what happened as a stick to beat with . The rationality gets blinded by prejudice towards Keane, towards soccer, towards Ireland or any combination of the three.

Roy or Robbie?  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 04:46:28 PM
 ???
There is only one Keano.
 ;D


Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 09, 2010, 05:16:25 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

Don't watch it then,quite simple really.
You won't be much of a loss either.

I wilt in the glare of such wit and wisdom.



Jaysus Hardy that our Kevin Myers/Fintan O Toole tribute act of yours doesn't cut much ice down Queens County way. One up to the Blue and Whites I think.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thewobbler on October 09, 2010, 08:16:07 PM
Can't understand how anyone would think it wasn't a penalty. Keane would never have scored in a fit from that position, but the only chance he had of doing so was prevented by a clumsy challenge. That's an infringement and therefore a penalty.

Re why Keane was on the pitch at the end, it's simple really - for the past decade, every other goal Ireland have scored has been as a result of him. He isn't the player he was and he can be infuriating to watch, but he is only Irish player who really knows where the net is. You can't have a man like that on the bench when you need a goal.

Ireland need to do a couple of things quite urgently. One is put Kilbane out to roost; he's been a great servant but his brain just doesn't work quickly enough anymore. The other us get rid of Green entirely, he's a truly awful player. Gibson or Lawrence would be a tremendous improvement in there and that's saying something.

Was very impressed with St Leger and Long, while McGeady was unusually good too.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tyroneman on October 09, 2010, 08:30:50 PM
We must have the poorest central midfield in Irelands history. A shambolic pairing who offer nothing whatsoever beyond a lot of running around.

Dunphy's choice of words may have been OTT but his sentiment was spot on; Gibson is a very poor player. Russia could, should, have won by 5.

It's a shame that only 3 players could make all the difference. A LB and CM x 2.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 09:02:38 PM
I'd have thought that the penny would have dropped by now, that Dunphy rips off what Giles says and presents in a downmarket tabloidesque manner, probably that's why it has appeal with some here. Why am I not surprised ::)
But if it were just that, then there might some saving grace, but no, Dunphy goes on and adds in his own unique analysis on top, which I recognise as the ravings of disturbed man. His own analysis comprises of  -  the player Trap/Stan/Kerr/McCarthy/Charlton/Hand  is not picking, is the best thing since sliced bread and is the missing link between abject failure and winning the world cup. That so and so, who is selected, is an absolute disgrace.
Last night he claimed that Gibson was something like horrific? and described his couple of deliveries as  "boom boom"  as if to indicate brain dead. In actual fact  for the few minutes he was on,  Gibson sprayed the ball around all right and those two boom boom balls were delivered with perfection into the box, considering the goalie was not going to come and catch them.
Dunphy pours his poison out towards every manager Ireland has ever had. Sometimes for 2 or 3 games the manager is the bees knees and just exactly what we need, then the tide turns, that's his  one issue platform. He is ably asisted in this by the second biggest clown on tv, Hokey Dokey Bill. He suckers in all the suckers every time. They all fall for his line.
I suppose the simplicity of it has an appeal, that people forget his hypocrsy, his pure stupidity and his contradictions.
His appeals on tv  are the most pathetic drivel on rte. He, with a tear welling up  in his eye, waxes with drippy sentiment on just how such and such a player must be feeling at being left out - frozen out of the squad.
Then we had his famous rant against Venables, which he claimed was from his research, but in fact was ripped off, word for word from a post on Foot.ie.
But of course it's entertainment  ::)  Yes it's entertainment but I prefer analysis, If I want entertainment I'll watch the comedy hour.


 
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: INDIANA on October 09, 2010, 09:29:14 PM
In fact, the only complaints, are the usual self loathing Irish folk who occasionally condescend to watch an Irish international game.

What in the name of imperial hell is this supposed to mean?

People of a self flagellation nature who cannot look at an incident like this  objectively and come to a rational judgement of what happened and instead use their warped judgement of what happened as a stick to beat with . The rationality gets blinded by prejudice towards Keane, towards soccer, towards Ireland or any combination of the three.
Most times when Ireland get awarded a penalty it is regarded as down to luck by detractors. The last qualification campaign being also an example, Ireland were supposed to have had all the luck in order to finish 2nd, conveniently forgetting that Italy were fortunate to win in Montenegro, fortunate to get 2  incredible own goals in Georgia, a last gasp equaliser against us and a very fortunate last gasp winner against Cyprus.

 I have looked at it several times and it was a dive.

But dont let that get in the way of how most irish players couldnt trap a bag of sand.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on October 10, 2010, 01:04:43 PM
We must have the poorest central midfield in Irelands history. A shambolic pairing who offer nothing whatsoever beyond a lot of running around.

Dunphy's choice of words may have been OTT but his sentiment was spot on; Gibson is a very poor player. Russia could, should, have won by 5.

It's a shame that only 3 players could make all the difference. A LB and CM x 2.

Young McCarthy and anybody would be an improvement on what we have in the middle. I'd go for Lawrence who seems to be a player with a brain.

Kilbane at his galloping best was still never a left back.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 10, 2010, 02:02:05 PM
Kevin Doyle out of Tuesday's nights game
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Boycey on October 10, 2010, 02:20:31 PM
Why are people discussing what Dunphy  said on this thread?? He's an idiot, people keep saying he's better than the bland guys on Sky,no he's not he's just as predictable as they are. He'll just slag off Utd/Liverpool/Ireland, whoever will get him the most notice at that particular time. He has nothing constructive to offer.


On Doyle being out, he's a huge loss. Our whole game is based around booting the ball up to him and seeing what happens next.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on October 10, 2010, 02:39:20 PM
Why are people discussing what Dunphy  said on this thread?? He's an idiot, people keep saying he's better than the bland guys on Sky,no he's not he's just as predictable as they are. He'll just slag off Utd/Liverpool/Ireland, whoever will get him the most notice at that particular time. He has nothing constructive to offer.


On Doyle being out, he's a huge loss. Our whole game is based around booting the ball up to him and seeing what happens next.

Trap has called up Aisake.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: INDIANA on October 10, 2010, 03:03:30 PM
Why are people discussing what Dunphy  said on this thread?? He's an idiot, people keep saying he's better than the bland guys on Sky,no he's not he's just as predictable as they are. He'll just slag off Utd/Liverpool/Ireland, whoever will get him the most notice at that particular time. He has nothing constructive to offer.


On Doyle being out, he's a huge loss. Our whole game is based around booting the ball up to him and seeing what happens next.

never fear caleb folan is on standby
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 10, 2010, 07:58:55 PM
Why are people discussing what Dunphy  said on this thread?? He's an idiot, people keep saying he's better than the bland guys on Sky,no he's not he's just as predictable as they are. He'll just slag off Utd/Liverpool/Ireland, whoever will get him the most notice at that particular time. He has nothing constructive to offer.


On Doyle being out, he's a huge loss. Our whole game is based around booting the ball up to him and seeing what happens next.

I bet the people who watch Dunphy are the same one's that watch Simon Cowell (lame ass entertainment)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 10, 2010, 08:50:13 PM
Sure the team may as well hoof the ball up to Shane Long. At least he got a goal at the end of it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on October 11, 2010, 10:41:25 AM
Quote
But dont let that get in the way of how most irish players couldnt trap a bag of sand.

Why would anyone want to trap a bag of sand?

If your point is that, as a soccer-playing nation, that inadequate resources are put towards the perfecting of basic technical skills, then I agree wholeheartedly. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: screenmachine on October 11, 2010, 10:55:18 AM
With Robbie Keane and Given to a lesser extent not having much/any first team football with their clubs for an extended period, we can't really expect much from them to be honest.  You can't just turn it on when you want, you need to be playing regularly.  Hopefully with a competitive game uinder the belt they can both kick on a bit for tomorrow nights game, it should benefit Keane more than Given but I thought he could have done better with the first goal although the free leading up to it was a bit of a mind boggler to be honest...Need another 3 points tomorrow night to get things back on track sharpish...Here's hoping... 8)
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on October 11, 2010, 12:38:23 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

I agree.

Henry dives and he's a cheat

Keane dives and he's a hero.

You couldn't write the hypocrisy of it.

It shows where soccer is in Ireland when the only way we can score a goal against a decent side is using Wimbeldon tactics. Says everything.


Yeah and if you point out things like the above you're a traitor or a bogball idiot or something. Wasn't it rather apt they played that "we're all part of Jackie's army" song just before kickoff.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on October 11, 2010, 02:20:34 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

I agree.

Henry dives and he's a cheat

Keane dives and he's a hero.

You couldn't write the hypocrisy of it.

It shows where soccer is in Ireland when the only way we can score a goal against a decent side is using Wimbeldon tactics. Says everything.


Yeah and if you point out things like the above you're a traitor or a bogball idiot or something. Wasn't it rather apt they played that "we're all part of Jackie's army" song just before kickoff.

Watched it in the pub & shouted dive in real time to a chorus of "nah, he was tripped". Not a peep out of them after the replays. Agree with everything Hardy said there, it's a different game to the one I grew up with, was hoping Russia would hold out at the end & I'm glad they did.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 11, 2010, 05:47:00 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

I agree.

Henry dives and he's a cheat

Keane dives and he's a hero.

You couldn't write the hypocrisy of it.

It shows where soccer is in Ireland when the only way we can score a goal against a decent side is using Wimbeldon tactics. Says everything.


Yeah and if you point out things like the above you're a traitor or a bogball idiot or something. Wasn't it rather apt they played that "we're all part of Jackie's army" song just before kickoff.

Watched it in the pub & shouted dive in real time to a chorus of "nah, he was tripped". Not a peep out of them after the replays. Agree with everything Hardy said there, it's a different game to the one I grew up with, was hoping Russia would hold out at the end & I'm glad they did.

Wow great supporter you are  ::) Mullingar must be twinned with Moscow or something.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on October 11, 2010, 06:16:12 PM
I'd rather get the hockeying we were in line for than try and cheat and dive our way out of it. Honesty of effort goes a long way, I don't see soccer coming back from the depth's it has plunged to. It's now a "sport" that actively encourages cheating and diving and it's a much poorer game for it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 11, 2010, 06:35:44 PM
Croí and Hardy are both right though. He dived.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 11, 2010, 07:41:31 PM
Croí and Hardy are both right though. He dived.

Doesn't stop them being grumpy moany shites though.


PS I said a few pages back it was a soft peno
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on October 12, 2010, 09:52:14 AM
Croí and Hardy are both right though. He dived.

Doesn't stop them being grumpy moany shites though.


PS I said a few pages back it was a soft peno

So it's alright to call Henry a cheating b**tard but when Robbie dives around Landsdowne Road it's okay to turn a blind eye? Hypocrisy. I haven't heard of one report in the media that pulled Robbie up for that, shameful.

Soft peno my hole, it wasn't one, Robbie should have been booked for making a tit out of himself.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on October 12, 2010, 11:15:25 AM
I'd rather get the hockeying we were in line for than try and cheat and dive our way out of it. Honesty of effort goes a long way, I don't see soccer coming back from the depth's it has plunged to. It's now a "sport" that actively encourages cheating and diving and it's a much poorer game for it.

I was watching the U21 playoff between Iceland and Scotland last night - Scottish lad took a tumble (after the Iceland defender had pulled his foot back from the challenge) looking for a peno late on and got booked.  It's pitiful that it has come to this; and I don't see a way back either. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 05:48:11 PM
anyone know the team for tonight?
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on October 12, 2010, 05:54:38 PM
In fact, the only complaints, are the usual self loathing Irish folk who occasionally condescend to watch an Irish international game.

What in the name of imperial hell is this supposed to mean?

People of a self flagellation nature who cannot look at an incident like this  objectively and come to a rational judgement of what happened and instead use their warped judgement of what happened as a stick to beat with . The rationality gets blinded by prejudice towards Keane, towards soccer, towards Ireland or any combination of the three.
Most times when Ireland get awarded a penalty it is regarded as down to luck by detractors. The last qualification campaign being also an example, Ireland were supposed to have had all the luck in order to finish 2nd, conveniently forgetting that Italy were fortunate to win in Montenegro, fortunate to get 2  incredible own goals in Georgia, a last gasp equaliser against us and a very fortunate last gasp winner against Cyprus.

No - sorry - still like a bull in a fog here trying to make out what you're on about. Can you do me a favour and just try and put in simple language instead of a parable or allegory. I just want to know how despising the cheating prattery of an overpaid little jackeen translates into loathing myself, since I have as much in common with him as I have with a ciotóg Mozambican monkey-minder. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: King Henry on October 12, 2010, 06:06:33 PM
What about the cheating prattery of Joe Sheridan? You have something in common with him though of course yer both annoying c***ts from Meath
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 12, 2010, 06:11:25 PM
There are too many Englishmen on that team
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2010, 06:12:58 PM
What about the cheating prattery of Joe Sheridan? You have something in common with him though of course yer both annoying c***ts from Meath

Pissed off that you didn't get a chance to add to your extensive medal collection at the weekend? ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 12, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
Any team news?

This is the FAI Thread after all not the Grinds my gears thread...f**king moaners  ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 12, 2010, 06:50:53 PM
I'd rather get the hockeying we were in line for than try and cheat and dive our way out of it. Honesty of effort goes a long way, I don't see soccer coming back from the depth's it has plunged to. It's now a "sport" that actively encourages cheating and diving and it's a much poorer game for it.

I was watching the U21 playoff between Iceland and Scotland last night - Scottish lad took a tumble (after the Iceland defender had pulled his foot back from the challenge) looking for a peno late on and got booked.  It's pitiful that it has come to this; and I don't see a way back either.

Some goal Scotland scored from the centre spot..
But sure why bother mention it when you can have a good moan instead.....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 12, 2010, 06:57:02 PM
From the BBC

Slovakia v Republic of Ireland team news
Republic of Ireland make two enforced changes to the team that lost 3-2 to Russia on Friday. Liam Lawrence has a leg muscle injury and so Keith Fahey comes into midfield, while Shane Long starts in attack because Kevin Doyle has a knee injury. Slovakia are without injured striker Robert Vittek and suspended Liverpool defender Martin Skrtel. Vladimir Weiss, currently on loan at Rangers from Manchester City, starts in midfield along with danger man Marek Hamsik.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Boycey on October 12, 2010, 07:45:58 PM
Can I just say that I hate international football..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: screenmachine on October 12, 2010, 08:04:38 PM
Does that Green fella in midfield realise that he's playin for the green team. The clue's in his name like, i've never seen a player give the ball away so much at this level. Shocking.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:08:55 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.
Ah well.
Knew it seemed too good to be true.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lurganblue on October 12, 2010, 08:12:25 PM
That lad green is brutal. Is Gibson on the bench?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lurganblue on October 12, 2010, 08:14:42 PM
My question has just been answered so
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:17:29 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 12, 2010, 08:17:57 PM
Green is one of the worst players to ever play for Ireland.
Don't like seeing a fella get injured but its no harm having him off the pitch.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: screenmachine on October 12, 2010, 08:19:06 PM
Hoof it into the stands and you still get a penalty! Hilarious!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: screenmachine on October 12, 2010, 08:21:37 PM
Shite penalty, not so hilarious! Guaranteed 2-1 defeat now...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)
If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on October 12, 2010, 08:23:13 PM
The words useless and **** spring to mind. If he had managed to control the ball from the poor Clearence they would not have scored. Misses a sitter and then a penalty.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 12, 2010, 08:23:58 PM
Shite penalty, not so hilarious! Guaranteed 2-1 defeat now...

Did the Goalie touch him though  :D :)...Im sure someone could have a moan about it.

Actually think we are playing well and should get a win out of this
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 12, 2010, 08:24:56 PM
The words useless and **** spring to mind. If he had managed to control the ball from the poor Clarence they would not have scored. Misses a sitter and then a penalty.

I always thought Seedorf was a good player,didn't know he played for Slovakia though
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 12, 2010, 08:28:05 PM
Blatant dive from that cheater McGeady there. I hope Slovakia win 10-1 now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:28:52 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)
If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on October 12, 2010, 08:34:12 PM
The words useless and **** spring to mind. If he had managed to control the ball from the poor Clarence they would not have scored. Misses a sitter and then a penalty.

I always thought Seedorf was a good player,didn't know he played for Slovakia though
spelling never been a strong point of mine
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:34:23 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)
If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

He meant a significant away win. You could hardly call Cyprus a powerhouse of European football.
They've never even qualified for a major tournament.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 12, 2010, 08:34:28 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)
If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

Armenia a few weeks ago
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:35:15 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)
If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign
Against competent opposition, as opposed to 4th or 5th seeded teams...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 12, 2010, 08:40:10 PM
Didn't we beat France 1-0 over 90mins  :P
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)
If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

He meant a significant away win. You could hardly call Cyprus a powerhouse of European football.
They've never even qualified for a major tournament.

It wasnt signifcant? you remember Nicosia ok?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hereiam on October 12, 2010, 08:45:00 PM
Hate to say it but the solvaks to win 2-1  :'(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on October 12, 2010, 08:47:25 PM
Blatant dive from that cheater McGeady there. I hope Slovakia win 10-1 now.


You see that might have been funny if the keeper hadn't clattered him. Try again.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 12, 2010, 08:52:08 PM
Blatant dive from that cheater McGeady there. I hope Slovakia win 10-1 now.
:) Funny
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:54:29 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)
If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

He meant a significant away win. You could hardly call Cyprus a powerhouse of European football.
They've never even qualified for a major tournament.

It wasnt signifcant? you remember Nicosia ok?

I remember it well but without speaking for BNM man I'm sure he meant significant win in
context of beating a team higher than Ireland in the rankings. In that sense it was just a win.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerry on October 12, 2010, 08:56:01 PM
Riot police on the field at the italy v serbia match
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 09:04:03 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)
If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

He meant a significant away win. You could hardly call Cyprus a powerhouse of European football.
They've never even qualified for a major tournament.

It wasnt signifcant? you remember Nicosia ok?

I remember it well but without speaking for BNM man I'm sure he meant significant win in
context of beating a team higher than Ireland in the rankings. In that sense it was just a win.

Rankings don't mean everything. It was a very significant win in the eyes of many irish fans.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hereiam on October 12, 2010, 09:06:01 PM
Riot police on the field at the italy v serbia match

The wee six will be shittin themselfs.  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 09:07:19 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)
If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

He meant a significant away win. You could hardly call Cyprus a powerhouse of European football.
They've never even qualified for a major tournament.

It wasnt signifcant? you remember Nicosia ok?

I remember it well but without speaking for BNM man I'm sure he meant significant win in
context of beating a team higher than Ireland in the rankings. In that sense it was just a win.

Rankings don't mean everything. It was a very significant win in the eyes of many irish fans.
Against a team whose best ever finish in a qualifying group is 4th place!  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 09:13:48 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)
If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

He meant a significant away win. You could hardly call Cyprus a powerhouse of European football.
They've never even qualified for a major tournament.

It wasnt signifcant? you remember Nicosia ok?

I remember it well but without speaking for BNM man I'm sure he meant significant win in
context of beating a team higher than Ireland in the rankings. In that sense it was just a win.

Rankings don't mean everything. It was a very significant win in the eyes of many irish fans.
Against a team whose best ever finish in a qualifying group is 4th place!  ;D

Against a team that had beaten ireland by 3 goals less than 3 years prior to same meeting
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 12, 2010, 09:22:30 PM
Much improved performance from Friday night! would have been a excellent result if they didn't mess up v Russia

Russia will win the Group now unless we can beat them?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 12, 2010, 09:24:16 PM
Pity really should have won..

Seeing though as some are obsessed with rankings we should be happy with a point against a team ranked 16th in the World,sure we are only 33rd.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 12, 2010, 09:27:46 PM
Blatant dive from that cheater McGeady there. I hope Slovakia win 10-1 now.


You see that might have been funny if the keeper hadn't clattered him. Try again.

Woooosh!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 12, 2010, 09:27:48 PM
Scotland 2 - 2 Spain

The Scots were 2-0 down
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on October 12, 2010, 09:29:16 PM
Improvement on Friday night, but dropped off in the 2nd half. Sweet jesus, if Keane had scored. Ah well, dig deep and hopefully we can put a few good performances together and push hard for 2nd, as it looks like Russia will top the table.

Trap, for the love of god, give young McCarthy a shot @ the title
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 12, 2010, 09:29:46 PM
 A apology from Dunphy for his OTT description on Gibson  :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 12, 2010, 09:51:40 PM
Jaysus I don't know where the positives are coming from, that was pure dung. I don't care where the Slovaks are in ratings but they are a very poor side and we should have had the balls to play a bit of football and win that match. I used to think Gibson was going to be a good player but he has gone way back whatever is wrong with him. Kilbane needs to be put out to fodder he has been a great servant but just really poor on the ball. Keane was desperate, whelan has no confidence in himself to pass the ball.
Why not stick O Shea in midfield and bring in Coleman of Everton? Get Andy Reid in there, Get McCarthy of Wigan in there. That team is stale and needs serious freshening up imo.

The only time we strung 5 passes together today was when we were moving from their corner flag back to Given!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sandwiches_in_the_boot on October 12, 2010, 09:55:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO2aA0HtKsE&feature=player_embedded

Bad lot them Serbs.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: maldini on October 12, 2010, 09:59:53 PM
A apology from Dunphy for his OTT description on Gibson  :o

he apologised for calling him an awful player and then went on to say he was a poor player - not much difference really

Keane's worst performance in an ireland jersey, missed 3 clear chances and his mis-control led to the corner for their goal
he needs a move in January
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sammymaguire on October 12, 2010, 10:02:43 PM
A bit harsh myles, they were missing Duff and Doyle and Stephen Ireland  :'( I think Long was ineffective throughout, Keane looked stale, crap peno, Green should not be there, out of his depth, McGeady still lacking a final ball, Kilbane is finished although Dunne, St Ledger, Fahy, O'Shea all solid players and should be enough there to get through to another play-off

Team desperately needs a proper central midfielder

Still think Trapp should have Andy Reid in the squad too, good 20 minute man who can create
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 12, 2010, 10:13:23 PM
A bit harsh myles, they were missing Duff and Doyle and Stephen Ireland  :'( I think Long was ineffective throughout, Keane looked stale, crap peno, Green should not be there, out of his depth, McGeady still lacking a final ball, Kilbane is finished although Dunne, St Ledger, Fahy, O'Shea all solid players and should be enough there to get through to another play-off

Team desperately needs a proper central midfielder

Still think Trapp should have Andy Reid in the squad too, good 20 minute man who can create
Stephen Ireland? ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 12, 2010, 10:18:29 PM
A apology from Dunphy for his OTT description on Gibson  :o

he apologised for calling him an awful player and then went on to say he was a poor player - not much difference really

Keane's worst performance in an ireland jersey, missed 3 clear chances and his mis-control led to the corner for their goal
he needs a move in January

From what i understand he called Gibson "brain-dead" Must have been plenty of complaints to RTE that forced eamo to track back

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sammymaguire on October 12, 2010, 10:44:34 PM
A bit harsh myles, they were missing Duff and Doyle and Stephen Ireland  :'( I think Long was ineffective throughout, Keane looked stale, crap peno, Green should not be there, out of his depth, McGeady still lacking a final ball, Kilbane is finished although Dunne, St Ledger, Fahy, O'Shea all solid players and should be enough there to get through to another play-off

Team desperately needs a proper central midfielder

Still think Trapp should have Andy Reid in the squad too, good 20 minute man who can create

Stephen Ireland? ;)

Ok then, maybe not.

Starting XI for me would be
                        Given

Coleman Dunne St Ledger Hunt

Fahey Andrews Gibson Duff

         Keane   Stokes

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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 12, 2010, 10:49:04 PM
Stokes?
Ahead of Doyle?
Wow........
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 12, 2010, 10:50:58 PM
Surely the question up front is whether Long deserves his place ahead of Keane?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on October 12, 2010, 11:09:12 PM
Surely the question up front is whether Long deserves his place ahead of Keane?


I think thats pretty clear though it will never happen.

No O'Shea in Sammy's team - must be a mistake given his earlier comments. I'd have him in for St Ledger (decent trier but an accident waiting to happen) and Long and Doyle up front but otherwise I'd go with Sammy's team. Carr also needs to be brought back if at all possible, he is playing well this last season and a bit for Birmingham and would be good cover for Coleman who looks a good one. Really like Fahey and Lawrence and McGeady are good options to have for the flanks.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 12, 2010, 11:29:49 PM
2 matches in 5 days & not another euro 2012 game till March, like who come's up with these fixtures  ::)

Anyways remaining fixtures how many can you see us winning?

March 26th Macedonia (h)
June 4th Macedonia (a)
September 2nd Slovakia (h)*
September 6th Russia (a)*
October 7th Andorra (a)
October 11th Armenia (h)

* win these should be enough to top the group IMO
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 12, 2010, 11:54:54 PM
Topping the group is almost out the window I'd say. The Russians have 4 of their last 5 games at home.

Between us and the Slovaks for the play-offs. 6 points from the next two games against Macedonia would come in useful for a start.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on October 13, 2010, 12:47:48 AM
We qualified for one European Championships ever.

Granted there are more teams in the Finals now, but do this lot have the quality to achieve what far better teams failed to?  A central midfield of Matt Holland and Mark Kinsella seems like a dream now, never mind Keane and Townsend or Townsend and McGrath. Ronnie Whelan, then Captain of Liverpool, couldn't always get in as a central midfielder.

The only player with a current 'big' club is John O'Shea and he isn't a nailed on starter for United. Compare that with the days of Keane and Irwin at United, McAteer and Babb (no laughing) at Liverpool, McGrath and Quinn started at big clubs, and remember a decade ago when Harte, Kelly and Robbie were at Leeds who were a 'big' club.

Even our journeymen were quality players like John Sheridan. Compare him with what we have today.

Why do people expect us to make it? Is it unreasonable to demand qualification from players who inhabit the bottom of the Premier League table and lower?

Will you be surprised when we don't take the expected clean sweep of points from the 'minnows'?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: stephenite on October 13, 2010, 02:45:59 AM
The amount of continentals and others playing in the top tier of English football has increased considerably since the days of Euro 88, Italia 90 and USA 94. Perhaps this influx has had more bearing on what club our players are at as opposed to it just being down to a deterioration of the quality of players?

Ireland have only ever a handful of world class players. Liam Brady, Roy Keane and Paul McGrath being the ones that spring to mind, the others were handy support players, but would a man with Andy Townsends abilities play in todays Premier league?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ballinaman on October 13, 2010, 03:17:10 AM
Anybody watch the webcast interview with the 3 boys in the studio??

Liam Brady didn't know that James McCarthy still can play for Scotland because he hasn't been capped for Ireland in a competitive game...FFS like!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sammymaguire on October 13, 2010, 07:59:29 AM
Stokes?
Ahead of Doyle?
Wow........

I totally forgot about O'Shea, certainly in there at centre back or holding midfielder and yeah, Stokes looks like the real deal waiting to happen and Doyle just does not score enough goals for a striker  :-\
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: omagh_gael on October 13, 2010, 09:09:36 AM
Jaysus Sammy that's awful harsh on Doyle. No Irish striker has a significantly better goal scoring record and Doyle sets up loads of goals and is now widely considered as a top quality premiership striker. He has to be the first striker on the team sheet, Keane place is where the questions marks should be??
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on October 13, 2010, 09:19:15 AM
No competitive matches until the end of March 2011. Thank God.

It's a struggle watching this shower. I know silk purses and sow's ear and all that but if I could have reached into the telly and given Robbie Keane a root in the hole I would have.

Roll on the O'Byrne Cup.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GAA_Punter on October 13, 2010, 09:30:11 AM
Former England U20 captain Ciaran Clark declares for Republic of Ireland
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/10/13/football-former-england-u20-captain-ciaran-clark-declares-for-republic-of-ireland/
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 13, 2010, 09:37:57 AM
No competitive matches until the end of March 2011. Thank God.

It's a struggle watching this shower. I know silk purses and sow's ear and all that but if I could have reached into the telly and given Robbie Keane a root in the hole I would have.

Roll on the O'Byrne Cup.
fairly obv that keane was not at the races in the last two games and Doyle worked hard for nothing last Fri. The style of play doesnt suit him at all. Yes he can get on the end of long balls to flick on - but whats he point !
Surely Big Cillian Sheridan would be better suited to that kind of game.
I'd also start Shane long as his pace and work rate are superb. Robbie keane seems to fcuk things up. Hes a great servant to the team, but needs 5 chances to score 1 and gets the harder ones and misses the easy opportunities! imo

Id like to see stokes getting a run with Celtic and then hopefully on to the Irish senior team.
Long, Doyle or Stokes competing for the front two positions, with keane also - if he gets back on form.
Soccer in general has become very slow and boring. Even the top countries now play the cautious approach which bores the life out of you. Spain or argentina are the only teams that include a bit of flair some times that I can think of.
We dont know how lucky we are to have Football and Hurling to watch most of the year - imagine having only soccer !  :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 13, 2010, 09:58:40 AM
Is it unreasonable to demand qualification from players who inhabit the bottom of the Premier League table and lower? Why do people expect us to make it?

It's not particularly unreasonable. Every two years several countries that inhabit our tier of world football are able to find their way into major tournaments. Despite not having playing resources significantly superior to ours, Slovakia, Slovenia, Greece and Denmark were able to find their way into this summer's World Cup finals.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on October 13, 2010, 10:02:37 AM
Roll on the O'Byrne Cup is right. Missed opportunity, should have sneaked the win & prob would have if Robbie brought his boots. Awful touch to bring it around the last defender, I'm surprised he didn't try to blame it on the pitch. As for the penalty, well it couldn't have been at a nicer height for the keeper. Thought Fahy & Long did well, someone needs to teach McGeady how to cross and O'Shea needs to be center mid, disaster area.

Edit: Anyone see the news last night where the fans on the trains were gushing in their praise for Floppy Delaney for forking out for the takeout on the train? It must have cost him a fair chunk out of his €430,000 salary  ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on October 13, 2010, 01:00:33 PM
Is it unreasonable to demand qualification from players who inhabit the bottom of the Premier League table and lower? Why do people expect us to make it?

It's not particularly unreasonable. Every two years several countries that inhabit our tier of world football are able to find their way into major tournaments. Despite not having playing resources significantly superior to ours, Slovakia, Slovenia, Greece and Denmark were able to find their way into this summer's World Cup finals.

We are demanding qualification up of just our lowly lot. Pointing to a few bottom feeders who have qualified out of all the bottom feeders isn't really an argument.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 13, 2010, 01:42:42 PM
Is it unreasonable to demand qualification from players who inhabit the bottom of the Premier League table and lower? Why do people expect us to make it?

It's not particularly unreasonable. Every two years several countries that inhabit our tier of world football are able to find their way into major tournaments. Despite not having playing resources significantly superior to ours, Slovakia, Slovenia, Greece and Denmark were able to find their way into this summer's World Cup finals.

We are demanding qualification up of just our lowly lot. Pointing to a few bottom feeders who have qualified out of all the bottom feeders isn't really an argument.

Qualification for every tournament is obviously asking too much of a team of Ireland's stature, but we should be pushing hard more often than not and should be making hay on occasions when we're drawn with weaker than average top seeds. The teams I mentioned are not bottom feeders. They are Pot 2 and 3, mid level teams. There is room for 4-6 of these mid level teams at every major tournament. Given this, I'd suggest that qualification for every third, or at least fourth, tournament would be about breaking even for a mid level team. It could be argued that, with a solitary qualification on the record, Ireland have been punching below their weight for the last 15 years.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on October 13, 2010, 02:04:46 PM
Was just reminded of this and in light of recent events I thought it was quite apt...



This is the sort of mindset we need to move into after our push over
performance yesterday:

(my favourite is the Archie McShitt story)

This was actually posted on the Sheffield Wednesday Website.

"I'm feeling all angry about these modern day footballers, I know why they have gone all soft - It's because of poncy names. That's what it is. Remember in the old days, when foot players kicked a f**king ball made out of ten pound of clay stitched inside a steel-reinforced leather shell with laces made out of piano wire?

Well, in them days players could only survive the rigours of the game because they were called things like Albert, Arthur, Bert, Harry, Bill, Eddie, Bob, Jack and Tommy. F**king tough names for tough men, them was.

And what do we have now? Jason, Wayne, Dean, Ryan, Jamie, Robbie. F**king tarts' names, they are. Great big f**king puffs. No wonder the ball's like a f**king balloon and shin pads is like slices of bread. In the old days you never saw a Len Shackleton or a Billy Wright with a puffy little Sondico piece of paper down his little thin socks. F**king shinpads in them days was made out of library books, and socks was like sackcloth.

Same with the jerseys. F**king shirts with holes in now so they can breathe. Yes, so that little Jody's hairless chest can breathe and he doesn't get a chill. F**k off. Stanley Matthews used to dribble round Europe's finest wearing a f**king tent and shorts cobbled together from the jacket of his de-mob suit. Aye,he f**king did. No wonder players fall over all the time whenever an opponent comes anywhere near them.

And they never used to show their arses at one another either. Can you imagine what might have happened if Don Revie had flashed his ring at Nat Lofthouse during a City-Bolton Wanderers game? He'd have got one of them size 10 hobnail f**kers up his b**tard chuff.

F**king therapy for stress my arse! Stan Collymore slaps his missus about and he takes three seasons off with stress counselling. What the f**k is that all about? In the old days it was expected for footballers to belt the old sow about a bit, specially after a bad defeat. And the women used to
expect it, and so they should have. They was lucky to be married to footballers.

Ha! Trevor Morley got a kitchen knife in his back off his wife and was out of action for three month. Soft twat. Archie McShitt of Port Vale got run over with horse and cart one Friday night and he still turned out against Bradford the following day. And he scored two goals. That's cos his name wasn't "Trevor". Good old Archie. Broke his hip, both his legs, murdered his wife and buried her under the patio and still made the England team for the Home Internationals. Did he have any "stress counselling"? Did he bollocks!

And drugs? There was none of that in the old days. Oh, no. In them days it was a quick shot of morphine before kick-off and you was lucky if you got that. By half-time it had all but wore off so they pumped you full of laudanum. None of this cocaine sniffing and shooting up class A
narcotics.

Goal celebrations? Don't talk to me about goal celebrations. Crawling on the floor and thrusting their hips at the crowd. Huh! I'd like to have seen Cliff Bastin do that after a run down the left flank and crossing for Alex James to fire home a winner. Handshakes...and that was all you got. That and a w**k in the showers afterwards. But it was a proper w**k...all man stuff. None of these puffy w**ks between blokes that you get nowadays with players like Greame Le Saux and Stephen Gerrard. Allegedly. In them days,there was nowt wrong with it cos it didn't mean nowt. They used to say there was a "gay atmosphere" in the dressing room after the match. But it didn't mean owt mucky. Just a bit of harmless spanking the plank among healthy young sportsmen. Aye. I know. Me dad told me.

Sixty grand a f**king week! Ha! I wouldn't pay 'em tuppence. Two bob Tommy Lawton used to get...a month! And Tom Finney still worked as a plumber four days a week when he was playing for England. It's true, you know. F**king is. Players had to work them days just to make up their money. Not like today.

Stan Pearson had to clean sewers and doubled up as Old Trafford shithouse cleaner. He had to go off during one game because some c**t had built a log cabin and blocked the U-bend. And that Eddie Hapgood was a male model...though he never liked to talk about it.

So I say we start calling kids real male names again. If you're having a kid, don't even consider puffy names and shite names like what people call their kids these days. Otherwise what we gonna get in twenty years' time?

The England team full of players called Keanu, Ronan, Ashley and f**king Chesney. F**k that! Call your kids Alf, Herbert, Len, Frank, Fred and Wilf.

And let's get the puffs out of the game once and for all
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 13, 2010, 10:31:33 PM
Just read the FAI laid on a train for those supporters who booked the hotel in the city where the fixture was to take place,also Delaney paid for drink for all for the train journey.
Fair play to them and him,credit where credit is due.

I'm sure someone will have a moan about it though.. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ExiledGael on October 13, 2010, 10:38:24 PM
Just read the FAI laid on a train for those supporters who booked the hotel in the city where the fixture was to take place,also Delaney paid for drink for all for the train journey.
Fair play to them and him,credit where credit is due.

I'm sure someone will have a moan about it though..

See above - from Croi.
That's some salary!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on October 14, 2010, 11:31:28 AM
Lads - I am sure Delaney will get this largesse repaid by the FAI. Or maybe Ivor Callelly will reclaim the cost of the gargle on his next Senead Eireann expenses claim.


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on October 14, 2010, 12:00:32 PM
Downsides were the fact that no beer allowed for the plebs - brother in law in the Premier said they were open but when I enquired from the young lassie I was told Uefa don't allow it!! - Gently told her that this was BS and asked to see the supervisor but no luck.


Noticed on tuesday night that all the Irish boys in Slovakia were busy supping beer whilst watching the match. I think you must be right about the BS
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 14, 2010, 03:49:23 PM
Just read the FAI laid on a train for those supporters who booked the hotel in the city where the fixture was to take place,also Delaney paid for drink for all for the train journey.
Fair play to them and him,credit where credit is due.

I'm sure someone will have a moan about it though..

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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 14, 2010, 04:49:50 PM
Delaney paying for all the drinks on that train journey reminds me of... the Father Ted episode where Ted buys all the drinks for the Chinese community to like him
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on October 17, 2010, 02:18:25 PM
Just watching the Everton match there and I'm thinking - how the hell is Coleman not in the Ireland team? Trapp needs to cop himself on.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 17, 2010, 02:52:35 PM
Just watching the Everton match there and I'm thinking - how the hell is Coleman not in the Ireland team? Trapp needs to cop himself on.

Just thinking the same myself - has to start against Norway
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on October 17, 2010, 03:17:07 PM
Just watching the Everton match there and I'm thinking - how the hell is Coleman not in the Ireland team? Trapp needs to cop himself on.

Just thinking the same myself - has to start against Norway

Trappatoni said in a press conference last week that he was impressed with both Coleman and Wilson in training, and both will be tested in upcoming friendlies.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 17, 2010, 03:18:16 PM
Shame Stephen Ireland's head is screwed on wrong as he would be a decent player in the Irish midfield
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on October 17, 2010, 03:21:10 PM
Just watching the Everton match there and I'm thinking - how the hell is Coleman not in the Ireland team? Trapp needs to cop himself on.

Just thinking the same myself - has to start against Norway

Trappatoni said in a press conference last week that he was impressed with both Coleman and Wilson in training, and both will be tested in upcoming friendlies.


Should have been in the team ages ago. Its not like the back 4 is laden with stars. 2 wild liabilities are ever presents.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 17, 2010, 03:34:28 PM
Just watching the Everton match there and I'm thinking - how the hell is Coleman not in the Ireland team? Trapp needs to cop himself on.

Just thinking the same myself - has to start against Norway

Trappatoni said in a press conference last week that he was impressed with both Coleman and Wilson in training, and both will be tested in upcoming friendlies.

He must have been reading this thread and took the advice of all its armchair experts who know more than him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 17, 2010, 03:39:02 PM
Just watching the Everton match there and I'm thinking - how the hell is Coleman not in the Ireland team? Trapp needs to cop himself on.

Just thinking the same myself - has to start against Norway

Trappatoni said in a press conference last week that he was impressed with both Coleman and Wilson in training, and both will be tested in upcoming friendlies.

He must have been reading this thread and took the advice of all its armchair experts who know more than him.

No one said they were an expert... this is a discussion forum and all I was doing was expressing an opinion...  I'll clear it with you in future if it makes you happy though?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: 118cmal on October 17, 2010, 03:40:41 PM
Time to get Coleman into the starting XI?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 17, 2010, 07:46:13 PM
Time to get Coleman into the starting XI?

I'd be keen to see him there...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ludermor on October 17, 2010, 07:52:43 PM
Some pile of shite from Sweeney in the Indo today!!
Does someone want to tell him that Stephen Ried is a different player. And that Andy Ried has played a total of 14 minutes this season.


By Eamonn Sweeney

Sunday October 17 2010

Giovanni Trapattoni is making a mess of the Irish manager's job. And if he doesn't get his act together pronto, the FAI should give him the boot. If you disagree with this admittedly brutal summation, it's worth looking again at the case of Andy Reid.

We've become so used to Reid's omission from the Irish international squad that there's a tendency to treat it as a fait accompli. Last week's papers made reference to Ireland's lack of midfield options, 'in the absence of Stephen Ireland and Andy Reid'. And on Friday it was mentioned that there was possibly 'good news for Trap' because Steven Reid had said he might perhaps play for this country again if we were really stuck and asked him nicely.

The persistent coupling of the names of Stephen Ireland and Andy Reid might give you the impression that the cases of both players are similar. Yet they couldn't be more different. Stephen Ireland doesn't want to play for his country, Andy Reid does. There's nothing Trapattoni can do about the Aston Villa man. But there is no excuse for overlooking the Sunderland man again and again until every squad announcement heaps further humiliation on a player who never let his country down.

And what is the sin which has justified the manager's appalling behaviour towards Reid? Apparently, some hotel bar disagreement between the two men. Reid did not have a brush with the law, he did not break a curfew, he did not fail to turn up for a game, he simply fell out with Trapattoni. And because of that the manager has allowed personal pique to interfere with the best interests of the Irish team. It's not good enough.

Trapattoni's determination to exclude Reid has seen him go to lengths which would be comical were the stakes involved not so high for an Association which could be courting financial disaster should Ireland put in another underwhelming qualifying campaign. First we had QPR journeyman Martin Rowlands starting in the centre of midfield for Ireland against Montenegro. And then we had the bizarre promotion of Paul Green, a player who bears the same relation to Reid as a flagon of cider does to a bottle of Champagne.

Utterly meaningless summer internationals against Paraguay and Algeria were used by Trapattoni as vehicles to introduce the hapless Green whose competent performances in these glorified kickabouts were declared to be proof that we had discovered the answer to our midfield problems. Green had played most of his career in the lower divisions with Doncaster Rovers before moving to Derby County, a poor Championship team, two years ago. Yet he was hailed as something like the second coming of Roy Keane by his manager who did not just bring him into the squad but gave him a starting role in the centre of midfield.

The results of this hare-brained decision have been painfully predictable. Green has looked like the footballing equivalent of Maurice Flitcroft, the crane driver who in 1976 conned his way into the British Open and shot 121 for 18 holes. He was woefully out of his depth against Russia last Saturday and against Slovakia on Tuesday before an injury mercifully cut short his ordeal. Andy Reid, a player of proven Premier League quality, meanwhile, sat at home, not judged good enough for the squad let alone the team.

This is lunacy. There have been attempts to justify the blackguarding of Reid by suggesting that there is no place for him in the 'system' employed by Trapattoni or that he would not be able to adjust to the 'style of football' played by Ireland. But, really, this is just a refusal to recognise that Trapattoni has behaved disgracefully. Andy Reid, on the other hand, has been a model of dignity. He remains available for selection, he has kept his counsel and will no doubt continue to do so even when Trapattoni finds further inferior players with which to pad out his panel.

Talk of Ireland's 'system' rings very hollow after the performance against Russia when, as Ronnie Whelan incredulously pointed out, we played two holding midfielders and they didn't actually hold anything. Green and Glenn Whelan might be devoid of flair, the argument went before the game, but their work rate and defensive ability would compensate for that. Instead, Russian midfielders poured through on to the Irish back four without let or hindrance. The players picked for their destructive capabilities hardly made a tackle. We might as well have played a couple of ball players in the centre of the pitch. At least they'd have given us something.

By the final 20 minutes of the game against Russia, we were reduced to humping long deliveries into the box at every opportunity. It was like nothing so much as the moment when a junior Gaelic football team realises the game is lost so they might as well move the full-back up front and leather high balls into him on the off chance that something might happen. It was anti-football.

Our best chances came from set-pieces. It was the same in Slovakia. But if that is to be the limit of our ambitions, surely it's another reason to bring back Andy Reid who is by far the superior of any player in the current squad when it comes to delivering the dead ball. It won't happen of course. Trap is too busy reminding everyone that vendetta is an Italian word.

Andy Reid might be the most obvious victim of the manager's ignorance and obstinacy, but he's not the only one. While Paul Green was judged worthy of a starting place in our World Cup qualifier teams, James McCarthy was left out of the panel altogether. McCarthy has played regular Premier League football for Wigan Athletic, and played it well for the most part, though like any young player he can be inconsistent. Yet he is infinitely superior to a number of players in the current squad. His offence was to cry off the panel for those meaningless matches against Paraguay and Algeria. Once more the right to take the hump with players is sacrosanct for Trapattoni.

The excuse that Ireland 'just don't have the players' would be more convincing if the manager made the best use of the limited resources we do have. While Trapattoni appears willing to make overtures to the petulant Stephen Ireland, his snubbing of Rory Delap is incomprehensible. Glenn Whelan has been in and out of the Stoke City team, Delap has been an ever-present. There is a great deal more to Delap than his long throws. But the long throws alone would be a significant weapon in the armoury of a team devoted to aerial warfare, the equivalent of several extra corners a game. Delap wants to play for Ireland yet he too is ignored.

Stephen Ward of Wolves, injured at the moment, was left out of the squad when he would have been a better bet than the increasingly ludicrous Kevin Kilbane at left-back. Marc Wilson moved up from Portsmouth to Stoke in the same deal that took Ireland first-teamer Liam Lawrence in the other direction. No place for him either.

The placing of the immensely promising Darron Gibson behind first Keith Andrews and then Paul Green in the pecking order has affected the Manchester United man's confidence to such an extent that he looks much diminished in the Irish shirt these days. Yet this is a player who fought in court for the right to play for the Republic of Ireland. Lee Carsley might be 36 but he'd still do a better job than Paul Green.

It's time Giovanni Trapattoni started taking his job seriously before Irish soccer is once more run into the ground by managerial incompetence.

He can start by picking up the phone and talking to Andy Reid. If he can't even do that it's time for him to say Arrivederci Aviva.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bogball XV on October 18, 2010, 10:34:31 AM
i think he was talking about Stephen Ireland as opposed to Stephen Reid in that first highlighted bit.
Andy Reid's grand, but he isn't holding down a Sunderland starting place at present.  Delap retired years ago I thought?  But all of the names bandied about there and he doesn't mention the best Irish player in the premiership at present, Seamus Coleman.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on October 18, 2010, 10:37:34 AM
He was talking about Stephen Reid, but I don't know why. Stephen Reid said he might be interested in a comeback if asked. (He retired due to injury)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: omagh_gael on October 18, 2010, 10:42:00 AM
i think he was talking about Stephen Ireland as opposed to Stephen Reid in that first highlighted bit.
Andy Reid's grand, but he isn't holding down a Sunderland starting place at present.  Delap retired years ago I thought? But all of the names bandied about there and he doesn't mention the best Irish player in the premiership at present, Seamus Coleman.

Sure he was causing havoc all last season with his long throw in's at Stoke. Not sure if he is holding down a regular start this season though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bogball XV on October 18, 2010, 11:51:31 AM
i think he was talking about Stephen Ireland as opposed to Stephen Reid in that first highlighted bit.
Andy Reid's grand, but he isn't holding down a Sunderland starting place at present.  Delap retired years ago I thought? But all of the names bandied about there and he doesn't mention the best Irish player in the premiership at present, Seamus Coleman.

Sure he was causing havoc all last season with his long throw in's at Stoke. Not sure if he is holding down a regular start this season though.
he scored on saturday, i mean retired from international football?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: omagh_gael on October 18, 2010, 12:29:25 PM
i think he was talking about Stephen Ireland as opposed to Stephen Reid in that first highlighted bit.
Andy Reid's grand, but he isn't holding down a Sunderland starting place at present.  Delap retired years ago I thought? But all of the names bandied about there and he doesn't mention the best Irish player in the premiership at present, Seamus Coleman.

Sure he was causing havoc all last season with his long throw in's at Stoke. Not sure if he is holding down a regular start this season though.
he scored on saturday, i mean retired from international football?

I see
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: 118cmal on October 21, 2010, 11:47:11 AM
I see Ciaran Clark from Aston Villa has pledged his international future to Ireland.  Don't know much about him other than that he's a highly rated centre back and former England u19 captain.  Should provide competition to St Ledger at least.  Does anyone know if he can play right back?  Would be good for Ireland to have another option there and then maybe move O'Shea across to LB.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Joxer on October 21, 2010, 11:52:35 AM
When does (or has he already?)  Trap name his squad for the Norway friendly?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on October 21, 2010, 12:14:52 PM
I see Ciaran Clark from Aston Villa has pledged his international future to Ireland.  Don't know much about him other than that he's a highly rated centre back and former England u19 captain.  Should provide competition to St Ledger at least.  Does anyone know if he can play right back?  Would be good for Ireland to have another option there and then maybe move O'Shea across to LB.
http://www.birminghampost.net/midlands-birmingham-sport/west-midlands-sports/aston-villa-fc/2010/10/21/aston-villa-defender-ciaran-clark-commits-to-republic-of-ireland-65233-27519049/
Great work by Richard Dunne to convince him.  He is a decent prospect at a time when centre halves were looking thin on the ground.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on October 21, 2010, 12:40:07 PM
He replaces McDrain...yahooooo. ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Feckitt on October 21, 2010, 01:46:31 PM
Does anyone know where his parents are from?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: 118cmal on October 21, 2010, 01:54:00 PM
Does anyone know where his parents are from?

Mother from Lovely Leitrem I believe.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on November 01, 2010, 07:01:50 PM
Congrats to Shamrock Rovers
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 01, 2010, 07:51:38 PM
More FAI incompetence...

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/1025/blinkhornm_sligo_shamrock.html

Blinkhorn bemused by final suspension

Monday, 25 October 2010 16:18
Sligo Rovers striker Matthew Blinkhorn has criticised his suspension from the FAI Ford Cup final ahead of the Bit o' Red clash with Shamrock Rovers in the 14 November showpiece.

The former Blackpool striker was booked against Dundalk on 9 October, his fourth yellow card of the season.

He learned of his one-game ban for the final last Thursday, remaining free to play in the Bit o' Red's final two league games of the season, the first of which was a 2-1 win against UCD last Friday.

Sligo's Richie Ryan and Hoops midfielder Robert Bayly will also miss the final because of bans.

Blinkhorn told the Irish Independent: 'It should be that if you get four bookings, you miss the next game. If you get eight bookings, you miss the next two games.

'That's the way it works in other leagues. You don't get a booking on 9 October and wait until 14 November to dispense the punishment.

'It doesn't make sense; basically we're being punished because we have got one game extra.

'If we hadn't gotten to the Cup final, we would have been suspended for the first game of next season. I got banned for a game after the season's finished. That makes sense, doesn't it?'

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on November 01, 2010, 07:52:49 PM
Saw this in yesterday's Tribune.  Would he be a good addition or no better than we have/

Noble set to join Irish band as Alex keeps Gunners on Song
premier league Speculation that West Ham ace will feature in Friday's Trapattoni squad
Ciaran Cronin, Emirates Stadium
 
The right note: Arsenal's Alex Song (left) is challenged by Luis Boa Morte of West Ham United during their Premier League match at the Emirates Stadium Mark Noble yesterday proved what an asset he could be to Giovanni Trapattoni's Ireland as West Ham were narrowly beaten by Arsenal at the Emirates, courtesy of a headed goal from Alex Song's two minutes from time.




Strong rumours have been circulating in recent days that the former England under-21 captain, born and bred in East London but 'Irish' by virtue of one of his grandparents, is close to declaring for Trapattoni's side and may well be included in the squad for the friendly against Norway on 17 November at the Aviva Stadium.




Irish assistant manager Marco Tardelli was at Upton Park on Wednesday when the player came off the bench on 72 minutes with West Ham 1-0 down to Stoke City in the League Cup. Noble contributed richly to his side's comeback that evening and was a force again yesterday.




With a neat touch here, a clever pass there, he was involved in all of West Ham's best play while the player's 30-yard run and rasping drive on 35 minutes forced Lukasz Fabianski into a very important save.




His delivery from set-pieces, which he deliberately placed as close as possible to Arsenal's keeper, were also extremely effective on the day.




Trapattoni, who must surely be keeping a close eye on the player, will also have been impressed by Noble's energy and discipline. Playing in a three-man midfield alongside Scott Parker and Luis Boa Morte, Noble kept as much of an eye on his defensive duties as his attacking ones.




All in all, he would represent a significant addition to the Irish ranks. The Noble camp have been quiet on the rumours this week but, interestingly, have not gone out of their way to dismiss them out of hand. Trapattoni names his squad for the Norway game on Friday.


October 31, 2010
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on November 01, 2010, 07:57:58 PM
Saw this in yesterday's Tribune.  Would he be a good addition or no better than we have/

Noble set to join Irish band as Alex keeps Gunners on Song
premier league Speculation that West Ham ace will feature in Friday's Trapattoni squad
Ciaran Cronin, Emirates Stadium
 
The right note: Arsenal's Alex Song (left) is challenged by Luis Boa Morte of West Ham United during their Premier League match at the Emirates Stadium Mark Noble yesterday proved what an asset he could be to Giovanni Trapattoni's Ireland as West Ham were narrowly beaten by Arsenal at the Emirates, courtesy of a headed goal from Alex Song's two minutes from time.




Strong rumours have been circulating in recent days that the former England under-21 captain, born and bred in East London but 'Irish' by virtue of one of his grandparents, is close to declaring for Trapattoni's side and may well be included in the squad for the friendly against Norway on 17 November at the Aviva Stadium.




Irish assistant manager Marco Tardelli was at Upton Park on Wednesday when the player came off the bench on 72 minutes with West Ham 1-0 down to Stoke City in the League Cup. Noble contributed richly to his side's comeback that evening and was a force again yesterday.




With a neat touch here, a clever pass there, he was involved in all of West Ham's best play while the player's 30-yard run and rasping drive on 35 minutes forced Lukasz Fabianski into a very important save.




His delivery from set-pieces, which he deliberately placed as close as possible to Arsenal's keeper, were also extremely effective on the day.




Trapattoni, who must surely be keeping a close eye on the player, will also have been impressed by Noble's energy and discipline. Playing in a three-man midfield alongside Scott Parker and Luis Boa Morte, Noble kept as much of an eye on his defensive duties as his attacking ones.




All in all, he would represent a significant addition to the Irish ranks. The Noble camp have been quiet on the rumours this week but, interestingly, have not gone out of their way to dismiss them out of hand. Trapattoni names his squad for the Norway game on Friday.


October 31, 2010



Now that would be a great capture!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on November 02, 2010, 01:20:31 PM
Quote
More FAI incompetence...

At least they have a player accountability system, unlike ...

Where's me coat?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Geoff Tipps on November 02, 2010, 01:38:35 PM
Saw this in yesterday's Tribune.  Would he be a good addition or no better than we have/

Noble set to join Irish band as Alex keeps Gunners on Song
premier league Speculation that West Ham ace will feature in Friday's Trapattoni squad
Ciaran Cronin, Emirates Stadium
 
The right note: Arsenal's Alex Song (left) is challenged by Luis Boa Morte of West Ham United during their Premier League match at the Emirates Stadium Mark Noble yesterday proved what an asset he could be to Giovanni Trapattoni's Ireland as West Ham were narrowly beaten by Arsenal at the Emirates, courtesy of a headed goal from Alex Song's two minutes from time.




Strong rumours have been circulating in recent days that the former England under-21 captain, born and bred in East London but 'Irish' by virtue of one of his grandparents, is close to declaring for Trapattoni's side and may well be included in the squad for the friendly against Norway on 17 November at the Aviva Stadium.




Irish assistant manager Marco Tardelli was at Upton Park on Wednesday when the player came off the bench on 72 minutes with West Ham 1-0 down to Stoke City in the League Cup. Noble contributed richly to his side's comeback that evening and was a force again yesterday.




With a neat touch here, a clever pass there, he was involved in all of West Ham's best play while the player's 30-yard run and rasping drive on 35 minutes forced Lukasz Fabianski into a very important save.




His delivery from set-pieces, which he deliberately placed as close as possible to Arsenal's keeper, were also extremely effective on the day.




Trapattoni, who must surely be keeping a close eye on the player, will also have been impressed by Noble's energy and discipline. Playing in a three-man midfield alongside Scott Parker and Luis Boa Morte, Noble kept as much of an eye on his defensive duties as his attacking ones.




All in all, he would represent a significant addition to the Irish ranks. The Noble camp have been quiet on the rumours this week but, interestingly, have not gone out of their way to dismiss them out of hand. Trapattoni names his squad for the Norway game on Friday.


October 31, 2010



Now that would be a great capture!!

Just had his appendix out so won't be named in the squad for the Norway game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 02, 2010, 01:40:20 PM
Just had his appendix out so won't be named in the squad for the Norway game.
Aye, he was in stitches when Trapp asked him to play for Ireland.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on November 17, 2010, 06:40:06 PM
Any word on the team for tonight??
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Rouge_Diablo on November 17, 2010, 07:13:59 PM
What channel has the game this evening?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: SHEEDY on November 17, 2010, 09:51:34 PM
thought that was complete rubbish. coleman not getting on was a disgrace. we know what mcgeady,duff,hunt and lawerence can do. the match was lifeless. it needed someone to give it a lift. same old predictable rubbish from trappatoni.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 17, 2010, 10:00:57 PM
Didn't watch the match but I can't believe Coleman didn't get on. We need to blood new players and now we will be relying on the likes of Kilbane for the next euro qualifier. Seems that whatever most people think is logical Trap decides to take the opposite opinion just for the hell of it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bogball XV on November 18, 2010, 12:29:21 AM
He'd maybe give coleman 5 mins if he was qualified to play for another country, you know, the way he did with mccarthy.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thewobbler on November 18, 2010, 12:42:55 AM
It really does get my goat up when managers choose to ignore the obvious.

The first Irish player with a genuine spark to break into the Premiership in a decade, and Trap doesn't try him out.

It beggars belief.

I'd welcome Brian Kerr back with open arms. He understood just how limited the playing pool was and played tactics to suit, but at least he didn't create his own limits.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ballinaman on November 18, 2010, 12:58:58 AM
He'd maybe give coleman 5 mins if he was qualified to play for another country, you know, the way he did with mccarthy.
And McCarthy is still eligible to play for Scotland because he hasn't played in a competitive match for Ireland!!Wouldn't be surprised if he does when he returns from injury with the way Trapp treats young players.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 18, 2010, 10:11:12 AM
Now that Stephen Ireland and Andy Reid can't catch a game with their club teams thank god for Coleman to give the fans with typewriters something to get indignant about. remind me again how many games this lad has played with Everton? Mind you, having listened to all the media guff (from the same sources that have built up others before mind) I'm a bit surprise Coleman didn't get a run on last night.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Clown on November 18, 2010, 10:29:58 AM
Coleman has played more PL games than Andy Carroll and more this season than Kieran Gibbs  - who both started for England last night
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on November 18, 2010, 11:34:03 AM
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on November 18, 2010, 12:38:06 PM
Now that Stephen Ireland and Andy Reid can't catch a game with their club teams thank god for Coleman to give the fans with typewriters something to get indignant about. remind me again how many games this lad has played with Everton? Mind you, having listened to all the media guff (from the same sources that have built up others before mind) I'm a bit surprise Coleman didn't get a run on last night.


That's absolute rubbish anglocelt39. It was simply scandalous that Coleman didn't get a game last night. Its not just the last few weeks he has done well. He was very impressive in a few games early last season for Everton and did well for Blackpool in their promotion charge last season. He should have been capped long before now, never mind last night.

Trapp clearly does not like any player that shows a spark of invention or creativity. That's his prerogative as he is the manager but I think people are well within their rights to criticise it. If nothing else its better to play nice stuff and lose than play muck and still lose as has been happening.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 18, 2010, 12:43:31 PM
Roy Hodgson must have based all his 35 years of experience on the methods of Trap.  Can you imagine the "excitement" of the game between Eng-er-land and Ireland if Hodgson was the manager!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on November 18, 2010, 01:36:41 PM
Now that Stephen Ireland and Andy Reid can't catch a game with their club teams thank god for Coleman to give the fans with typewriters something to get indignant about. remind me again how many games this lad has played with Everton? Mind you, having listened to all the media guff (from the same sources that have built up others before mind) I'm a bit surprise Coleman didn't get a run on last night.


That's absolute rubbish anglocelt39. It was simply scandalous that Coleman didn't get a game last night. Its not just the last few weeks he has done well. He was very impressive in a few games early last season for Everton and did well for Blackpool in their promotion charge last season. He should have been capped long before now, never mind last night.

Trapp clearly does not like any player that shows a spark of invention or creativity. That's his prerogative as he is the manager but I think people are well within their rights to criticise it. If nothing else its better to play nice stuff and lose than play muck and still lose as has been happening.

Nail on head Seanie - well said - it would  be good for the Irish Rugby team to follow the same sentiment this weekend as well instead of the dross they are serving up at the minute. These two national teams are a disgrace at the minute.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 18, 2010, 01:41:25 PM
Coleman is our best prospect in many a year since Duff/Keane broke through IMO.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 18, 2010, 01:53:23 PM
Now that Stephen Ireland and Andy Reid can't catch a game with their club teams thank god for Coleman to give the fans with typewriters something to get indignant about. remind me again how many games this lad has played with Everton? Mind you, having listened to all the media guff (from the same sources that have built up others before mind) I'm a bit surprise Coleman didn't get a run on last night.


That's absolute rubbish anglocelt39. It was simply scandalous that Coleman didn't get a game last night. Its not just the last few weeks he has done well. He was very impressive in a few games early last season for Everton and did well for Blackpool in their promotion charge last season. He should have been capped long before now, never mind last night.

Trapp clearly does not like any player that shows a spark of invention or creativity. That's his prerogative as he is the manager but I think people are well within their rights to criticise it. If nothing else its better to play nice stuff and lose than play muck and still lose as has been happening.


Maybe I didn't make myself clear there Seanie, I did state I was a bit surprised he didn't get a run last night. I don't think he's quite at the stage yet where his omission from starting 11's in the next 12 months (if that happens) should spark off a media frenzy as in the cases of Andy Reid and Stephen Ireland, two lads who haven't exactly set the world on fire in the last 18 months. What we should remember is that a fair bit of the hype about those lads was generated by fellas who know a lot more about how to boost viewer ratings and/or sell a few papers than they know about the game itself.

Great to see the lad make a breakthrough at club level, hope he can go on with it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: outinfront on November 18, 2010, 02:56:38 PM
Coleman has been playing really well for Everton and had an exceptional season last year, helping Blackpool get promotion.  He should have had 20 mins last night.  McGeady is incredibly frustrating - can't fault his effort but it ultimately ends in indecision rather than good crosses or attempts on goal.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on November 18, 2010, 04:05:34 PM
Coleman has been playing really well for Everton and had an exceptional season last year, helping Blackpool get promotion.  He should have had 20 mins last night.  McGeady is incredibly frustrating - can't fault his effort but it ultimately ends in indecision rather than good crosses or attempts on goal.

He played nine games for Blackpool. He had a good couple of months, not an exceptional season.

He's a very exciting prospect, but with barely 20 professional appearences to his name, we could do well not getting carried away.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 18, 2010, 04:12:50 PM
Coleman has been playing really well for Everton and had an exceptional season last year, helping Blackpool get promotion.  He should have had 20 mins last night.  McGeady is incredibly frustrating - can't fault his effort but it ultimately ends in indecision rather than good crosses or attempts on goal.

He played nine games for Blackpool. He had a good couple of months, not an exceptional season.

He's a very exciting prospect, but with barely 20 professional appearences to his name, we could do well not getting carried away.
We need something to get excited about  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: SHEEDY on November 18, 2010, 06:03:54 PM
coleman should have played last night end of story. hes our most exiciting prospect at this minute. what more does he need to do at club level to get a game in that irish team.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 18, 2010, 06:11:09 PM
short and simple I think trap doesnt like being told what to do and felt like the media were trying to pick his team and have coleman play - and as a result the stubborn old mule did the opposite.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on November 18, 2010, 11:01:21 PM
short and simple I think trap doesnt like being told what to do and felt like the media were trying to pick his team and have coleman play - and as a result the stubborn old mule did the opposite.

I think that the Irish and the English were about 5-10 years too late in appointing Trap and Capello. The tactics they employ were the same that won Greece their Euro championship, and Italy their World Cup.

I cannot watch much of soccer any more.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 18, 2010, 11:02:37 PM
short and simple I think trap doesnt like being told what to do and felt like the media were trying to pick his team and have coleman play - and as a result the stubborn old mule did the opposite.
I agree with that. The media should be printing headlines declaring Coleman and Andy Reid useless and then he will play them.
Anglo Celt, pls don't put Andy Reid and Stephen Ireland in the one sentance. Reid wants to play and ireland is self interested little p***k who I wouldn't play ever again if I was manager.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 18, 2010, 11:08:40 PM
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.

coleman is a right back. he is playing out of position with everton at the minute
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on November 18, 2010, 11:10:03 PM
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.

coleman is a right back. he is playing out of position with everton at the minute

Yea, his best position would be at Forest.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 18, 2010, 11:13:14 PM
i would take him at the minute, play right wing with you at right back and him supplying the crosses for me at full, sorry, centre forward !!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on November 19, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.

coleman is a right back. he is playing out of position with everton at the minute

He's playing 'out of position' on the wing because when Everton tried him at RB he was found to be quite dodgy.

short and simple I think trap doesnt like being told what to do and felt like the media were trying to pick his team and have coleman play - and as a result the stubborn old mule did the opposite.

The way I see his logic is this: The FB positions, along with finding Whelan a partner, are the team's biggest problems. Finding solutions to these problems will improve the team much more than slipping in a new right winger. So alternatives were tried at left and right back, behind the regular, experienced wingers. This way, the merits of Cunningham and Kelly could be properly evaluated. Sticking either in behind a complete novice would have compromised attempts to do this. Coleman will surely get a go next February, and most likely in front of O'Shea as to throw him in in front of anyone else would be similarly pointless.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: INDIANA on November 20, 2010, 10:10:06 AM
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.

coleman is a right back. he is playing out of position with everton at the minute

He's playing 'out of position' on the wing because when Everton tried him at RB he was found to be quite dodgy.

short and simple I think trap doesnt like being told what to do and felt like the media were trying to pick his team and have coleman play - and as a result the stubborn old mule did the opposite.

The way I see his logic is this: The FB positions, along with finding Whelan a partner, are the team's biggest problems. Finding solutions to these problems will improve the team much more than slipping in a new right winger. So alternatives were tried at left and right back, behind the regular, experienced wingers. This way, the merits of Cunningham and Kelly could be properly evaluated. Sticking either in behind a complete novice would have compromised attempts to do this. Coleman will surely get a go next February, and most likely in front of O'Shea as to throw him in in front of anyone else would be similarly pointless.
There is no logic to not starting a premiership player. We have a manager who doesnt watch games and so far hasnt justified his price tag
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: nrico2006 on December 09, 2010, 02:51:34 PM
Completely off topic, but does anyone know the name of the young Irish footballer who is going on trial to Real Madrid.  I read about it last week but can't find anything online about it.

We were talking earlier in work about football in general, and the topic cropped up on how the game has evolved over the past lock of years.  What was talked about was why is there a dearth of Irish talent coming through at the top level.  There seems to be a real lack of top class players coming out of the Country, and for a game that is played by the majority of young boys in Ireland then surely we should be producing more top class talent.  We got talking about why the standard or quality of player being produced in Ireland and in the UK in general is not as high as that produced by alot of other obvious strong footballing nations, as well as some less 'big' footballing nations.  Is this a by product of the modern game and how football is more about tactics and strategies now than ever before, are clubs turning their players into 'team players' from a young age at the expense of allowing flair to prevail.  Ireland and the rest of the British Isles have lots of structures in place at both club level and international level, but are the players being moulded into parts of a jigsaw from an early age now instead of allowing them to flourish creatively and make their own mistakes along the way.  Nowadays, it seems that there are more and more teams internationally and domestically who are well drilled sides filled with average players who are extremely fit and well organised, yet they lack any creative spark or the ability to do anything out of the ordinary.  These kind of teams are becoming more common, and to an extent they can be technically successful as they are hard to beat.  The current Ireland and Northern Ireland teams are examples of this, both teams bunged with average players with great levels of determination, grit and fitness.  But they have little else.  Whenever you watch a Republic or Northern Ireland game, you do not really expect them to actually score, well score too many.  If they do score it is usually from a free kick, corner or penalty.  How has this come about?  The Paddy McCourt situation is an example of flair being rendered unimportant.  He is a player that has something special, but he doesn't fit into the 21st century ideal of running about and working like a maniac without the ball.  Should footballers not be encouraged to do what they do best, can 'flair' players not be encouraged?  Why are there no footballers like Giggs or Best being produced anymore, is it being coached out of them from their early teens? 

We seem to have a lack of creative, technical midfield players coming through as well.  Growing up it seemed to be that the type of player to succeed was the fastest player, the mentality was that you had to try and beat a man, but it has become obvious now that while it is good to have a player who can do this, the key to a successful team is the player who can operate in refined spaces and pull the strings, a player with great control, touch, passing and vision.  Why is there none being produced here, is there too much focus from an early age on athleticism and strength as opposed to mastering the skills with the ball, or is the rise of Futsal the reason behind the countries outside the UK and Ireland bringing through more technically gifted players? 

 I made reference earlier to natural talent and flair being coached out of players once they join up with football teams at 11, 12 or 13.  This all came into my head as I was looking at the nationalities of alot of the Arsenal players last night, where alot of players are coming from non traditional footballing powerhouses, yet technically they are great.  Is it because of the lack of coaching structures that these countries are producing the players there that play as they have done all their youth or is there another reason?  I just find it hard to gauge that a country like Ireland, with large numbers playing football from an early age, produces a lack of real top class talent.  Everyone grew up playing in the streets and trying overhead kicks, stepovers and back heels, everybody knew someone who was amazingly gifted from a flair point of view, yet look at the national team and the national team over the last 10 years and all you have is average skilled footballers with work ethic.  Where is all the talent going, is it being coached out of them to fit into a certain style or tactic once they move to organised footballer teams in their teens?  Surely the average youngster in Ireland at 9 is as good as that in France or Holland? 
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Post by: muppet on December 15, 2010, 11:27:45 PM
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/1215/irelands.html (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/1215/irelands.html)

Ireland wants to play for Ireland again to help put Ireland in the shop window.

Whaddayous think?

Sounds like a wind up to me.
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Post by: Celt_Man on December 15, 2010, 11:38:24 PM
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/1215/irelands.html (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/1215/irelands.html)

Ireland wants to play for Ireland again to help put Ireland in the shop window.

Whaddayous think?

Sounds like a wind up to me.

Neck on him like a jockey's bollox
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 11, 2011, 05:01:53 PM


Republic invite to expanded 'home nations'

The English FA has invited the Republic of Ireland to participate in a new look competition which would also include Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

England who originally turned down an invitation to participate in the Carling Nations Cup, are believed to be enthusiastic now about organising the five-team event which may begin in 2013.

The format has yet to be agreed, with a decision still to be made over the duration of tournament and whether or not the event will be staged at one venue.

The Carling Nations Cup involving the Republic of Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland & Wales kicks-off next month at the Aviva Stadium, with the concluding matches to be played at the same venue at the end of May.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Rossfan on January 11, 2011, 05:44:55 PM
Confirmation that the FAI and its soccer game are British  ;D
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Post by: ross4life on January 11, 2011, 06:50:57 PM
Good idea to bring back the home nations tournament. hopefully they scrap the international friendlies now as they are a complete waste of time.
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Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 11, 2011, 06:54:45 PM
Yeah I think its a great idea,nice that the Republic have been asked to play.
I think its a one off but it be nice if they had it every 2 or 3 years.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 26, 2011, 10:26:52 PM
Delighted for Carr and Fahy tonight hope they go on to win Carling Cup now,especially Carr always liked him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2011, 11:45:58 AM
Why did Carr become one of the most disliked players (amongst fans) on the Irish team, when he did play?
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Post by: Billys Boots on January 28, 2011, 12:03:55 PM
Why did Carr become one of the most disliked players (amongst fans) on the Irish team, when he did play?

My recollection is that he resigned from international football to concentrate on his club career quite early, I think around age 26-27.  He was never the most affable interviewee either.  :)
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Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2011, 02:17:36 PM
Carr retired about the age of the age of 30 and came back afterwards to play a few more games.

Perhaps some of the jilted journalists who were fond of deliberate misquoting, took some extra liberties painting a perception of a sourpuss Stephen Carr. Added to that, I suspect the fact the team manager kept selecting Carr to play at FB, was regarded as the player's fault.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on February 05, 2011, 10:33:03 PM
Hopefully Trap finally decides to start McCarthy. He is becoming a serious footballer.
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Post by: Declan on February 06, 2011, 09:47:21 PM
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Hopefully Trap finally decides to start McCarthy. He is becoming a serious footballer.

Well he's withdrawn due to "injury" so we'll have to wait
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Post by: Orangemac on February 06, 2011, 11:51:42 PM
Some of the bigger clubs will be in for McCarthy this summer. Surprising only Wigan and Wolves were in for him 2 years ago.

Can he still play for Scotland as he has not played competitively?

Things are looking good for Ireland with McCarthy, Doyle, Coleman, Wilson and Best all in good form. Is O'Hara still keen on playing. If so he should be called into the squad.
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Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 06, 2011, 11:53:46 PM


Things are looking good for Ireland with McCarthy, Doyle, Coleman, Wilson and Best all in good form. Is O'Hara still keen on playing. If so he should be called into the squad.

Eh no he shouldn't f**k him..
I don't think he was ever keen on playing for Ireland.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on February 07, 2011, 02:27:11 PM
From twotter:

ireland team v wales: given, o'shea, dunne, st ledger, clark, coleman, whelan, walters, doyle, duff, gibson/green

And they are right about Gibson being green.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on February 27, 2011, 06:06:48 PM
Delighted for Stephen Carr - what a pro
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BennyHarp on February 27, 2011, 10:44:23 PM
Went to watch Leeds v Norwich last weekend. I dont really know much about him but Wes Houlahan ran the show for Norwich. Can't see him fitting into a Trappatoni structure but definitely looked like a decent player!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Leo on February 27, 2011, 10:58:50 PM
James McCarthy is a gem and we should embrace him AS LONG AS HE IS INTERESTED IN PLAYING for Ireland - if not, close the book. With rampant emigration we will become more and more dependant on second generation Irish in years to come and should accept that - as long as we can tell the difference between genuine lads like Mick McCarthy & Kevin Kilbane as opposed to the Cascarinos and Manciinis of this world.

By the way, if the best manager in England EVER (ferguson you ABU person) rates Gibson, then he'll do me. He has stuck with O'Shea and been proven right he's probably right about Gibson too.

Once we get past the Dublin bias that glorifies run-of-the  mill players who have barely escaped the doldrums of the League of Ireland and recognise that players performing regularly in the English Championship are a better bet that those on the reserve teams of the premiership, we can build a real team.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on March 04, 2011, 12:57:44 PM
Irish Youth International Conor Henderson played for Arsenal against Leyton Orient. Wenger sees him as a future first team regular. He is a ball playing midfielder but was born in England.

We should get him capped at senior level pronto.

http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/arsenal-look-to-the-future (http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/arsenal-look-to-the-future)

Conor Henderson made his first team debut for Arsenal last night in their 5-0 victory over Leyton Orient at the Emirates Stadium.

The 19 year old Republic of Ireland youth international put on a sparkling performance in midfield, roaming into numerous positions throughout the 90 minutes. He was assured in possession and always looked to get the ball forward quickly to his team-mates.

Henderson is a product of the Arsenal youth academy, and has made eight appearances for the reserves scoring one goal this season.

His development into the Arsenal first team set up has been hampered by injury after the player was ruled out for the majority of last season with a knee injury sustained on his reserve team debut.

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger was impressed with the youngsters contribution though, and told arsenal.com: "When you look at all the players that come out now (of the Arsenal academy), its amazing. He has done well, and shown that he is technically at the level we request here.

"He has a nice, smooth left foot and good build. He would have been involved a long time ago but was injured."

Arsenal teammate Jack Wilshire was also full of praise for the Irishman, and after the game tweeted: "Good win tonight, good to see big Nick scoring a hat-trick - Henderson looks a player too, the future is bright."

Ignasi Miquel also played the full 90 minutes, looking comfortable throughout. The 18-year-old Spanish centre back was commanding in defence, starting a number of Arsenal attacks with precision passing from the back.

Wenger's youngsters are certainly starting to prove their worth at senior level, and with a number of other player currently plying their trade out on-loan, things certainly look good for the Gunners
.
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Post by: Dinny Breen on March 04, 2011, 01:55:13 PM
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The 19 year old Republic of Ireland youth international put on a sparkling performance in midfield, roaming into numerous positions throughout the 90 minutes. He was assured in possession and always looked to get the ball forward quickly to his team-mates.

I watched the game and thought he was quiet, kept it simple when in possession certainly not a sparkiling performance.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bingo on March 08, 2011, 11:25:05 AM
Trap will be on the phone as we speak...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/9417873.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/9417873.stm)
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Post by: ballinaman on March 08, 2011, 11:30:24 AM
Trap will be on the phone as we speak...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/9417873.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/9417873.stm)
It's Trap, he'll be on the phone next year......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Orangemac on March 08, 2011, 10:30:52 PM
Don't call us we'll call you Jermaine.

What a plonker. "I don't think I am going to get a chance with England, not because of my ability, more because of past events".

What has he done this season for Stoke?
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Post by: ziggysego on March 08, 2011, 11:49:35 PM
Trap will be on the phone as we speak...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/9417873.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/9417873.stm)

England don't want me, maybe Ireland will. That's the context. No thanks.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 11:51:16 PM
Take him. They've taken worse mercenaries. Even some with no Irish connection whatsoever.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on March 25, 2011, 05:49:21 PM
IRELAND TEAM TO TAKE ON MACEDONIA

Keiren Westwood, Darren O'Dea and Kevin Foley will all make competitive debuts for the Republic of Ireland in Saturday's Euro 2012 qualifier against Macedonia.

Coventry keeper Westwood was always going to come in for the injured Shay Given to win his sixth senior cap, while Wolves defender Foley takes over from John O'Shea at right-back.

However, O'Dea, currently on loan at Ipswich from Celtic, has been drafted in as a late replacement for central defender Sean St Ledger, who has finally had to admit defeat in his efforts to shake off a knee injury picked up in a training ground collision with Ciaran Clark on Tuesday.

Kevin Kilbane will make his 65th successive competitive start in a back four which will also include the fit again Richard Dunne, while Manchester United's Darron Gibson will partner Glenn Whelan in central midfield with Damien Duff and Aiden McGeady providing the width.

Robbie Keane, captaining his country for a record-equalling 40th time, will start alongside Kevin Doyle in attack after finally shaking off the calf injury which has sidelined him for much of the last six weeks.

Manager Giovanni Trapattoni has confirmed that Wigan midfielder James McCarthy will be involved at some point, although Jon Walters is not now due to join up with the squad until after the game following the birth of his third child.

Republic of Ireland XI: Westwood, Foley, Dunne, O'Dea, Kilbane, Duff, Gibson, Whelan, McGeady, Keane, Doyle.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: red hander on March 25, 2011, 06:13:35 PM
Think I'd prefer Paddy Kenny to replace Shay when he's injured.  Glad to see O'Dea on.  Duff and McGeady are in good form with their clubs so should cause bother down the wings.  On current form also, Long would be my choice before Keane.  Really like Kilbane for all he's done for Ireland, but I think he's past it and could be badly exposed if the Macedonians have a nippy winger
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Post by: muppet on March 25, 2011, 06:20:18 PM
Think I'd prefer Paddy Kenny to replace Shay when he's injured.  Glad to see O'Dea on.  Duff and McGeady are in good form with their clubs so should cause bother down the wings.  On current form also, Long would be my choice before Keane.  Really like Kilbane for all he's done for Ireland, but I think he's past it and could be badly exposed if the Macedonians have a nippy winger

These days he would be exposed by Derek Davis.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on March 25, 2011, 06:36:17 PM
Think I'd prefer Paddy Kenny to replace Shay when he's injured.  Glad to see O'Dea on.  Duff and McGeady are in good form with their clubs so should cause bother down the wings.  On current form also, Long would be my choice before Keane.  Really like Kilbane for all he's done for Ireland, but I think he's past it and could be badly exposed if the Macedonians have a nippy winger

Don't rate o'dea to be honest. Would prefer Clark/Wilson in the defence. Will be good to see mc carthy on at some stage.

With Best & Walters out of the squad it leaves back up strikers looking weak, especially with question marks overs keane's fitness.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on March 25, 2011, 06:38:56 PM
Thats a very poor team  :(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on March 26, 2011, 03:30:05 PM
Watching Armenia V Russia,still 0-0 after a half an hour.
It be great if the Armenians could get a result.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: EC Unique on March 26, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Watching Armenia V Russia,still 0-0 after a half an hour.
It be great if the Armenians could get a result.

Could you post up the table as it stands..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on March 26, 2011, 03:59:35 PM
   Teams   P   W   D   L   F   A   +/-   Pts
1    Russia   4   3   0   1   6   3   3   9
2    Ireland   4   2   1   1   7   5   2   7
3    Armenia   4   2   1   1   9   4   5   7
4    Slovakia   4   2   1   1   4   4   0   7
5    FYROM   4   1   1   2   4   4   0   4
6    Andorra   4   0   0   4   1   11   -10   0
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on March 26, 2011, 04:31:12 PM
Still 0-0 after 70mins.
Dunno how Russia haven't scored though they should be 2 or 3 up.
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Post by: ardtole on March 26, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
They are only teasing you. The Russians will probably knock one in with a couple of mins to go. unfortunately.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on March 26, 2011, 04:44:03 PM
Russian player clean through on goals only the goalie to beat and he mis controls it and actually hits the ball backwards..
Come on Armenia 5mins left 0-0..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on March 26, 2011, 04:50:24 PM
All Russia now,well it has been the whole game really dunno how they haven't scored.
0-0 3mins of injury time to go
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Post by: ardtole on March 26, 2011, 04:52:19 PM
That would be a great result. If we won tonight we could be leading the table at the halfway stage of the competition.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on March 26, 2011, 05:02:22 PM
All over Armenia 0 - 0 Russia  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on March 26, 2011, 05:03:03 PM
Big game now tonight,gonna have to go out and just go for win
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on March 26, 2011, 07:20:22 PM
Pandev v O'Dea hmm..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Aaron Boone on March 26, 2011, 07:44:13 PM
I thought Kilbane had retired, but he's dropped down the league to Huddersfield.

Macedonia 6/1 to win. Dunphy very pessimistic beforehand.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on March 26, 2011, 07:47:17 PM
Some start  :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Minder on March 26, 2011, 07:48:36 PM
Ray Houghton - "What a finish by McGeady.........Horrible mistake by the goalkeeper"

Make up your mind.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on March 26, 2011, 08:01:21 PM
There's more goals here. Important not to let Macedonia get a bit of confidence though. Seems to be a very poor crowd?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on March 26, 2011, 08:01:46 PM
Nothing silly now, should be a straight forward win.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on March 26, 2011, 08:15:11 PM
Im here to bring up the numbers. Bring on McCarthy.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on March 26, 2011, 08:30:01 PM
bollox.... that's a game changer
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on March 26, 2011, 08:35:20 PM
Im here to bring up the numbers. Bring on McCarthy.
Im here too,very poor crowd alright but atmosphere decent enough.
Poor goal to concede there. Pitch not great those Rugby shites have it ruined.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: new devil on March 26, 2011, 08:42:10 PM
Come on the Rep beat these shower of amateur hoors!!

Just need 2 goals
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: omagh_gael on March 26, 2011, 08:42:51 PM
Im here to bring up the numbers. Bring on McCarthy.
Im here too,very poor crowd alright but atmosphere decent enough.
Poor goal to concede there. Pitch not great those Rugby shites have it ruined.

I thought it was a well taken goal, your man feinted to shoot then turned Dunne inside out and finished well. Not much you could have done about it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on March 26, 2011, 09:02:40 PM
Disgraceful tackle by that b**tard on Long - could have taken his head off... Can't believe it wasn't a red
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: cicfada on March 26, 2011, 09:13:52 PM
 it is inevitable that the Macedonians will level it up here! Confidence is draining out of the Irish here!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: cicfada on March 26, 2011, 09:15:14 PM
Keane going down looking for penalties now as well!! always a bad sign!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: cicfada on March 26, 2011, 09:18:03 PM
Game begging for mc carthy but of course he is too offensively minded!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: cicfada on March 26, 2011, 09:23:08 PM
trying to waste time now over throw ins! Christ almighty, have they no balls at all?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: cicfada on March 26, 2011, 09:31:42 PM
who knew that Trapp read my post huh?? Terrible few minutes left here!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Minder on March 26, 2011, 09:34:59 PM
Terrible dive by Long.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on March 26, 2011, 09:37:06 PM
So if we finish level on points it's decided on head 2 head games?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on March 26, 2011, 09:38:39 PM
So if we finish level on points it's decided on head 2 head games?

Aye and then it goes to goal difference
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Ulick on March 26, 2011, 09:39:06 PM
Mad how people see games differently. Granted I tend to get distracted when watching soccer but of what I did see, Duff was shite.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Atticus_Finch on March 26, 2011, 09:52:49 PM
"That's below the belt"

What about Chippy having a go at Bill over the plight of the working man .... brilliant.

If it did cost 60 yo yos to go to that game tonight no wonder the stadium was half empty.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on March 26, 2011, 09:55:55 PM
Typical Ireland. If they'd gone 5-0 up in the first half they'd still be hanging on by the skin of their teeth come injury time. The talent vacuum that is midfield makes it all too predictable, everything is either hit long or down the wings. Nothing can be played through the middle. That football is a recipe for yet another glorious near miss in terms of qualification.

The state of Brady throwing a hissy fit after being asked a reasonable enough question. RTE lads are a joke gone way past it's sell by date, unwatchable these days.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thewobbler on March 26, 2011, 10:13:55 PM
Shane Long was motm for me, he took the game by the scruff of the neck in the 2nd half.McGeady impressed more than Duff, and finally looks as if he might he adding patience to his game.

Dunne was good, Foley grew in confidence and Westwood looked composed. Keane and Duff led by example, working their bollocks off.

RTE's panel might need a new member soon. I don't mean to sound nasty or doomsdayist, but Giles couldn't look more unhealthy if he tried. He's a heart attack waiting to happen.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 26, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
Sure its entertaining!

Am I alone in thinking we played some pretty decent stuff at times? Didn't think the performance was too bad at all. I expected us to retreat in our own penalty area in the last 15 minutes but was pleasantly surprised that we actually played our way out of trouble.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on March 26, 2011, 10:22:44 PM
I think these eastern Europeans are saving their best for the games against mother russia. We could be able to take advantage.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: hardstation on March 26, 2011, 10:31:44 PM
I have admiration for your optimism but I thought that was complete pish. I was watching it with a fella who was kicking every ball for ROI and when I told him that Macedonia would have won only their 'keeper was a wooden one, he went of on one saying that it was a good Irish performance.

I don't know, I thought it was a horrible. Dunne - Done? Got tore a new one for the goal and later on he got booked after getting a skinning.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Orangemac on March 26, 2011, 11:06:29 PM
Whelan was shocking tonight. Fahey needs to start with McCarthy in the middle.

Don't know if Dunne wasn't fit but was poor tonight.

3 points in Macedonia would leave Republic in good position. Seem to play better away from home.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Forever Green on March 26, 2011, 11:12:37 PM
Play like that against Russia and they will hammer us. Any more news on Doyles injury?Could be devastating for Wolves in their relegation fight
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on March 26, 2011, 11:26:41 PM
Play like that against Russia and they will hammer us. Any more news on Doyles injury?Could be devastating for Wolves in their relegation fight

McCarthy can't get an even break.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on March 26, 2011, 11:34:22 PM
Whelan was shocking tonight. Fahey needs to start with McCarthy in the middle.

Don't know if Dunne wasn't fit but was poor tonight.

3 points in Macedonia would leave Republic in good position. Seem to play better away from home.

Fahey or McCarthy coming into the midfield would improve things. Both would leave a vulnerable back four very exposed. Think Cyprus under Stan.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on March 27, 2011, 12:01:23 AM
I can't believe I wasn't hearing things, so can anybody tell me me if I misheard George Hamilton saying Duff has had training from a judo coach in how to fall?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Forever Green on March 27, 2011, 12:27:20 AM
According to the bbc, doyle could be out for the rest of the season with a medial ligament injury. Bad news for Ireland but especially Wolves
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 27, 2011, 12:33:20 AM
Hardy - I can confirm Dangerhere did say this.

As well as saying "It's like watching Brazil" in the first half.

In the second half it was more painful than a Brazillian (or so I am lead to believe).

Brady was horrid contrary about the empty seats. Is Denis O'Brien paying him as well?

Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on March 27, 2011, 10:54:02 AM
Hardy - I can confirm Dangerhere did say this.

As well as saying "It's like watching Brazil" in the first half.

In the second half it was more painful than a Brazillian (or so I am lead to believe).

Brady was horrid contrary about the empty seats. Is Denis O'Brien paying him as well?



Good God! It's the sort of thing you'd say as a bad joke about soccer players and you're telling me it's true. What a travesty of a game it's been allowed to become.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 27, 2011, 11:00:59 AM
Disappointing match after a dream start. I would have given Foley mom. Duff worked hard but never got in behind Popov. Shane Long was poor enough at times as he wasn't holding up the ball. Whelan is just not good enough especially if he can't get a game at his club. I think Gibson could be ok but he needs a few players to pass the ball with him. Richard Dunne looked very poor too. If Trap doesn't get a few players onto the team who are playing football with their clubs and are on a bit of form instead of this loyalty to old players rubbish then we will get bet in Macedonia.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 27, 2011, 12:59:26 PM
Hardy - I can confirm Dangerhere did say this.

As well as saying "It's like watching Brazil" in the first half.

In the second half it was more painful than a Brazillian (or so I am lead to believe).

Brady was horrid contrary about the empty seats. Is Denis O'Brien paying him as well?



Good God! It's the sort of thing you'd say as a bad joke about soccer players and you're telling me it's true. What a travesty of a game it's been allowed to become.

I presume by saying he's getting coaching from a judoka in learning how to fall it's to avoid injury. Think Duff has had a couple of dislocated shoulders and once you have one you become very susceptible to picking up more of them.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on March 27, 2011, 01:13:46 PM
"That's below the belt"

What about Chippy having a go at Bill over the plight of the working man .... brilliant.

If it did cost 60 yo yos to go to that game tonight no wonder the stadium was half empty.

It was €45 for a ticket..

Positives from last night:
They Won
First half performance and last 10 mins in 2nd half
James McCarthy coming on and putting an end to which country he is gonna play for.
The 3 pints of Guinness I had in Paddy Cullens before the game...like new milk they were.

Negatives:
Poor for large patches of 2nd half
The pitch(f**king Rugby hoors)
Doyle getting injured ..any update??
That f**king I just can't get enough song them fans of that Glasgow club sing making an appearance in some sections of the crowd. 
The poor attendance,maybe when people stop thinking this is f**king Rugby country they will start coming to games again..€45 wasn't that expensive for a ticket last night.
I was in Row CC of the top tier,I was wrecked tired by the time I climbed up to my seat.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on March 27, 2011, 01:38:39 PM
I can't believe I wasn't hearing things, so can anybody tell me me if I misheard George Hamilton saying Duff has had training from a judo coach in how to fall?
Duff when at Blackburn, was young buck making asses out of defenders with his skill on the ball.
Naturally he became a target for tackles to teach him to behave. Every game he was hacked senseless until the fullback got a yellow card. He dislocated his shoulder from hard falls to the turf, then it kept happening repeatedly. At Chelsea he took lessons on how to fall and hit the ground without doing in his shoulder.
Since then I don't think he has dislocated his shoulder once.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on March 27, 2011, 01:40:09 PM
Who coached Robbie Keane?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on March 27, 2011, 01:57:31 PM
Mad how people see games differently. Granted I tend to get distracted when watching soccer but of what I did see, Duff was shite.
It's not mad, you are just shite when it come soccer.

On others here, on Ireland's performances  usually there is a difference of perception between barstoolers and the res, i.e. the people who follow local soccer leagues or/and follow the international team.
Difference of opinions is a normal thing. But barstoolers are the worst analysts of Irish international football. Somehow there's already an engrained inferiority complex. There is an assumed knowledge, based on watching epl on sky which does not reconcile with the available talent for the FAI and the standard of play.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: imtommygunn on March 27, 2011, 09:43:11 PM
Duff was shite. As a real constructive influence on the game I didn't think he added much. He's beginning to remind me of Neil Lennon - get the ball and pass sideways / backwards.

Working hard ain't enough for international football.

Would like to see more of McCarthy in centre mid - agree regarding Whelan.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on March 27, 2011, 10:19:22 PM
Duff was shite. As a real constructive influence on the game I didn't think he added much. He's beginning to remind me of Neil Lennon - get the ball and pass sideways / backwards.

Working hard ain't enough for international football.

Would like to see more of McCarthy in centre mid - agree regarding Whelan.

Not all doom and gloom. James McCarthy showed more composure and touch in 5 minutes than Gibson and Whelan in 90. Throw in Seamus Coleman and a fit O'Shea at left-back, with Given behind and it starts to look like a proper team, but unfortunately Trapp will be very slow to ring the changes.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on March 28, 2011, 09:24:24 AM
An obvious question maybe, but I'm not sure I've ever seen the answer. Duff is predominantly left footed I think, and McGeady seems to be right footed. If they are not, then both of them spend an inordinate amount of time 'cutting in'. You'll never beat a proper international defence cutting in every single time. Why don't they switch wings and attack down the outside. Both of them are capable of beating a man once, and should be able to put in a cross.

I realise that a winger cutting in can have a shot, like McGeady's goal, but that only happens rarely in fairness. Probably more dangerous to have good balls being put into the box from the end line?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gallsman on March 28, 2011, 10:09:50 AM
An obvious question maybe, but I'm not sure I've ever seen the answer. Duff is predominantly left footed I think, and McGeady seems to be right footed. If they are not, then both of them spend an inordinate amount of time 'cutting in'. You'll never beat a proper international defence cutting in every single time. Why don't they switch wings and attack down the outside. Both of them are capable of beating a man once, and should be able to put in a cross.

I realise that a winger cutting in can have a shot, like McGeady's goal, but that only happens rarely in fairness. Probably more dangerous to have good balls being put into the box from the end line?

That only works when you have proper goalscorers in the team who can head the ball. Keane is poor in the air and Doyle, for all his workrate and industry, isn't a quality goalscorer.

Leo Messi doesn't do a bad job cutting in from the right wing  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on March 28, 2011, 10:51:02 AM
An obvious question maybe, but I'm not sure I've ever seen the answer. Duff is predominantly left footed I think, and McGeady seems to be right footed. If they are not, then both of them spend an inordinate amount of time 'cutting in'. You'll never beat a proper international defence cutting in every single time. Why don't they switch wings and attack down the outside. Both of them are capable of beating a man once, and should be able to put in a cross.

I realise that a winger cutting in can have a shot, like McGeady's goal, but that only happens rarely in fairness. Probably more dangerous to have good balls being put into the box from the end line?

That only works when you have proper goalscorers in the team who can head the ball. Keane is poor in the air and Doyle, for all his workrate and industry, isn't a quality goalscorer.

Leo Messi doesn't do a bad job cutting in from the right wing  ;)

Doyle is a good header of the ball, and we have more options who can head the ball at least. But every ball in from the wing doesn't need to be for a header, cutbacks on the ground, or crosses low in the 'corridor of uncertainty' are just as dangerous.

Messi plays most of his time in the middle I'd say, he drifts in from the wing and picks the ball up in the centre. That's different to picking the ball up on the wing and *then* cutting inside.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gallsman on March 28, 2011, 11:54:46 AM
An obvious question maybe, but I'm not sure I've ever seen the answer. Duff is predominantly left footed I think, and McGeady seems to be right footed. If they are not, then both of them spend an inordinate amount of time 'cutting in'. You'll never beat a proper international defence cutting in every single time. Why don't they switch wings and attack down the outside. Both of them are capable of beating a man once, and should be able to put in a cross.

I realise that a winger cutting in can have a shot, like McGeady's goal, but that only happens rarely in fairness. Probably more dangerous to have good balls being put into the box from the end line?

That only works when you have proper goalscorers in the team who can head the ball. Keane is poor in the air and Doyle, for all his workrate and industry, isn't a quality goalscorer.

Leo Messi doesn't do a bad job cutting in from the right wing  ;)

Doyle is a good header of the ball, and we have more options who can head the ball at least. But every ball in from the wing doesn't need to be for a header, cutbacks on the ground, or crosses low in the 'corridor of uncertainty' are just as dangerous.

Messi plays most of his time in the middle I'd say, he drifts in from the wing and picks the ball up in the centre. That's different to picking the ball up on the wing and *then* cutting inside.

Doyle may be decent with his head, but he's hardly Les Ferdinand or Christian Vieri. We just don't have the quality up front to go down the wings and stick balls into the box (no jokes please)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on March 28, 2011, 03:07:29 PM
Trappatoni is adventurous.

Republic of Ireland team to play Uruguay in an international friendly at the Aviva Stadium on Tuesday 29 March:

Westwood; Foley, O'Dea, Kelly (capt), Clark; Lawrence, Fahey, Green, McGeady; McCarthy, Long


Kelly to skipper Ireland, McCarthy starts
Monday, 28 March 2011 14:37
Stephen Kelly will captain the Republic of Ireland in tomorrow night's friendly with Uruguay.


The 27-year-old Fulham defender will take over the armband from Robbie Keane who has been released as manager Giovanni Trapattoni takes a look at some of his back-up players.


Kelly, who will win his 21st cap, was an unused substitute in Saturday night's 2-1 Euro 2012 qualifier victory over Macedonia.

Having made his first competitive appearance off the bench against Macedonia, Wigan's James McCarthy will start behind the lone striker Shane Long between Aidan McGeady and Liam Lawrence and in front of Keith Fahey and Paul Green.


Kelly will be in the centre of defence with Ciaran Clark on the left, Darren O'Dea in the centre and Kevin Foley on the right.


Keiren Westwood continues in goal in the absence of Shay Given.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on March 28, 2011, 04:13:21 PM
Trappatoni is adventurous.

Republic of Ireland team to play Uruguay in an international friendly at the Aviva Stadium on Tuesday 29 March:

Westwood; Foley, O'Dea, Kelly (capt), Clark; Lawrence, Fahey, Green, McGeady; McCarthy, Long


Kelly to skipper Ireland, McCarthy starts
Monday, 28 March 2011 14:37
Stephen Kelly will captain the Republic of Ireland in tomorrow night's friendly with Uruguay.


The 27-year-old Fulham defender will take over the armband from Robbie Keane who has been released as manager Giovanni Trapattoni takes a look at some of his back-up players.


Kelly, who will win his 21st cap, was an unused substitute in Saturday night's 2-1 Euro 2012 qualifier victory over Macedonia.

Having made his first competitive appearance off the bench against Macedonia, Wigan's James McCarthy will start behind the lone striker Shane Long between Aidan McGeady and Liam Lawrence and in front of Keith Fahey and Paul Green.


Kelly will be in the centre of defence with Ciaran Clark on the left, Darren O'Dea in the centre and Kevin Foley on the right.


Keiren Westwood continues in goal in the absence of Shay Given.

that team is wrong, its keogh instead of mc geady
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on March 29, 2011, 12:31:53 PM
Fair play to Trappatoni. He is really helping Darron Gibson get more games (as he always say Darron needs) by leaving him on the bench tonight. Possibly a better team than the one that played the other night!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on March 29, 2011, 12:37:16 PM
In fairness Seanie, he probably has an agreement with Ferguson not to play him twice. 

Contrary to the prevailing opinions here, I thought the midfield (Gibson/Whelan) had a decent first half on Saturday, in that they did exactly what the manager instructed them to do, and did it effectively.  The roving #7 gave them problems all night though. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bingo on March 29, 2011, 12:38:50 PM
Fair play to Trappatoni. He is really helping Darron Gibson get more games (as he always say Darron needs) by leaving him on the bench tonight. Possibly a better team than the one that played the other night!

Maybe he realised that Gibson is useless and has to look at getting someone else in  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on March 29, 2011, 01:00:39 PM
In fairness Seanie, he probably has an agreement with Ferguson not to play him twice. 

Contrary to the prevailing opinions here, I thought the midfield (Gibson/Whelan) had a decent first half on Saturday, in that they did exactly what the manager instructed them to do, and did it effectively.  The roving #7 gave them problems all night though.

Whelan has as much composure as Síle Seoighe at a Kylie concert. He kept passing the ball to the opposition. Sure he wins it back some of the time but a better player won't have to.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: stiffler on March 29, 2011, 01:07:42 PM
Any word on the uruaguay team? is suarez/forlan starting?

I don't know how Keogh gets a run out. Would have been an ideal time to look at Wilson in a defensive midfield position.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bingo on March 29, 2011, 01:37:22 PM
Suarez not in squad, "injured" at the minute.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on March 29, 2011, 01:53:01 PM
In fairness Seanie, he probably has an agreement with Ferguson not to play him twice. 

Contrary to the prevailing opinions here, I thought the midfield (Gibson/Whelan) had a decent first half on Saturday, in that they did exactly what the manager instructed them to do, and did it effectively.  The roving #7 gave them problems all night though.

Whelan has as much composure as Síle Seoighe at a Kylie concert. He kept passing the ball to the opposition. Sure he wins it back some of the time but a better player won't have to.

Ah Elmo, he only 'lost' it a couple of times - for me those times stood out as we looked to be in a good place to launch attacks.  However, the attacking seems to be only through the wide midfielders at present.  By the way, McGeady gave the ball away more times than Whelan, from my recollection, but there doesn't seem to be any talk about that.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on March 29, 2011, 01:54:41 PM
Fair play to Trappatoni. He is really helping Darron Gibson get more games (as he always say Darron needs) by leaving him on the bench tonight. Possibly a better team than the one that played the other night!

Maybe he realised that Gibson is useless and has to look at getting someone else in  ;)


You realise Green is playing do you? Maybe Gibson is useless but he's one of our least useless options.

BB - would really doubt such an agreement is in place. If it was surely he'd have been sent back to Manchester?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on March 29, 2011, 01:58:00 PM
Fair play to Trappatoni. He is really helping Darron Gibson get more games (as he always say Darron needs) by leaving him on the bench tonight. Possibly a better team than the one that played the other night!

Maybe he realised that Gibson is useless and has to look at getting someone else in  ;)


You realise Green is playing do you? Maybe Gibson is useless but he's one of our least useless options.

BB - would really doubt such an agreement is in place. If it was surely he'd have been sent back to Manchester?

I love it!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on March 29, 2011, 02:28:07 PM
Fair play to Trappatoni. He is really helping Darron Gibson get more games (as he always say Darron needs) by leaving him on the bench tonight. Possibly a better team than the one that played the other night!

Maybe he realised that Gibson is useless and has to look at getting someone else in  ;)


You realise Green is playing do you? Maybe Gibson is useless but he's one of our least useless options.

BB - would really doubt such an agreement is in place. If it was surely he'd have been sent back to Manchester?

I love it!

Agreed, Green certainly doesn't have the pedigree for this level of football.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bingo on March 29, 2011, 02:35:22 PM
Fair play to Trappatoni. He is really helping Darron Gibson get more games (as he always say Darron needs) by leaving him on the bench tonight. Possibly a better team than the one that played the other night!

Maybe he realised that Gibson is useless and has to look at getting someone else in  ;)


You realise Green is playing do you? Maybe Gibson is useless but he's one of our least useless options.

BB - would really doubt such an agreement is in place. If it was surely he'd have been sent back to Manchester?

I thought my  ;) would have highlighted my jest.....we aren't blessed in midfield by any stretch of the imagination. Gibson is by far not the worse and the future i feel is along the line up tonight with McCarthy off Doyle (if fit - Robbie will never hold the ball up enough). I don't think we can play a 442 and hold to retain the ball enough to create a flurry of chances.

We should look at either a 433 or a 451.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: deiseach on March 29, 2011, 02:53:15 PM
Suarez not in squad, "injured" at the minute.

Good use of quotation marks, the type of "injury" that will clear up the day before Liverpool's next game
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bingo on March 29, 2011, 02:59:53 PM
Suarez not in squad, "injured" at the minute.

Good use of quotation marks, the type of "injury" that will clear up the day before Liverpool's next game

I would hope its an international groin strain and he back in training tomorrow. He did go off injured though at end of last game and by all accounts he has been known to hire a private jet in South America to get himself back for training the morning after international matches, so there may be something to it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Dave on March 29, 2011, 05:45:08 PM
I think Suarez is genuinely injured.
As for Darren Gibson...I wouldn't have him anywhere near the starting 11.
For me Keith Fahy is a better option than either Gibson or Whelan.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on March 29, 2011, 05:56:34 PM
Why didn't the FAI fix one of the home nations games for today instead of pointless friendly?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on March 29, 2011, 06:06:03 PM
Why didn't the FAI fix one of the home nations games for today instead of pointless friendly?

The home nations games arent pointless freindlies?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on March 29, 2011, 06:12:26 PM
Why didn't the FAI fix one of the home nations games for today instead of pointless friendly?

The home nations games arent pointless freindlies?

Not as much
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: paco on March 29, 2011, 07:14:08 PM
They are completely pointess. Are the ticket prices any diffrent from competitive internationals? So many of the so-called star players seem to pick up injuries before these friendlies, no-one wants to play in them,and you can't really blame them because no-one wants to watch them, either.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on March 29, 2011, 07:43:56 PM
Why didn't the FAI fix one of the home nations games for today instead of pointless friendly?

What "home" are they talking about?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on March 29, 2011, 08:14:00 PM
 
Why didn't the FAI fix one of the home nations games for today instead of pointless friendly?

What "home" are they talking about?

Isn't played in Dublin where we play the home nations?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Orangemac on March 30, 2011, 12:09:16 AM
Whelan was shocking tonight. Fahey needs to start with McCarthy in the middle.

Don't know if Dunne wasn't fit but was poor tonight.

3 points in Macedonia would leave Republic in good position. Seem to play better away from home.

Fahey or McCarthy coming into the midfield would improve things. Both would leave a vulnerable back four very exposed. Think Cyprus under Stan.
Fair point. Possibly with a five man midfield and 1 up front away from home they could both be accommodated There has to be a better option than Whlean (or Green). Has Wilson not been playing in midfield for Stoke this season ahead of Whelan?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on March 30, 2011, 08:32:39 AM
Decided to bring the young lad along last night and enjoyed the game (40 euro for both us which I reckon is still about 15 euro too dear).Thought Fahey was good and Long was excellent - definitely worth a start ahead of Keane in the next game. McCarthy was very poor but in his defence it looked as if there was no plan or idiea of how to get the ball to him and consequently the game just passed him by. Clarke at LF looked a decent player but pace wise I thought he struggled and was exposed by the way Uruguay were set up with their wide men hugging the touchlines and really stretching our defence.
All in all not a bad nights entertainment.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on March 30, 2011, 09:37:13 AM
Quote
Decided to bring the young lad along last night and enjoyed the game (40 euro for both us which I reckon is still about 15 euro too dear).

They were flogging adult and child tickets in Elvery's (next door) for €30 on Sunday at the sponsored walk - did you not go?  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on March 30, 2011, 09:44:52 AM
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did you not go?

Didn't make it and got into trouble for organising a "friendly"
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on March 30, 2011, 10:24:35 AM
Why didn't the FAI fix one of the home nations games for today instead of pointless friendly?

What "home" are they talking about?

Isn't played in Dublin where we play the home nations?

What?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on March 30, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
Hardy the refernece to the "home" nations is the old tournament that used be palyed between England, Scot,Wales and NI that was cancelled back in the 80s but was revived under the aspices of the "Carling" tournament but with the RoI replacing England
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on March 30, 2011, 10:47:39 AM
Thanks Declan. So it's just casual cultural imperialism again, in the same vein as "the mainland" and "the Open", etc?
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on March 30, 2011, 11:36:39 AM
Thanks Declan. So it's just casual cultural imperialism again, in the same vein as "the mainland" and "the Open", etc?

Royals?  ;)
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hardy on March 30, 2011, 11:49:33 AM
We were royals when they were wiping the arses of their Roman slavemasters.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on March 30, 2011, 12:09:47 PM
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did you not go?

Didn't make it and got into trouble for organising a "friendly".

Yeah there was a ban on football imposed on our club for Sunday - in view of what happened (and/or didn't) on the 'walk of nightmares', it is being seen as a wasted day.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on May 24, 2011, 09:54:13 PM
O'Neill,Orior,pintsofguinness,Milltown Row 2,new devil,EC Unique,gerry,gawa316,brokencrossbar1,Ziggysego,thewobbler,Banana Man,Hardstation,Ulick,AQMP,Norf Tyrone,gallsman,saffron sam2,fitzroyalty,Puckoon,Lynchbhoy,Gabriel_Hurl,Tony Fearon,Tony Baloney and Minder....................Can you hear me?

YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING TONIGHT.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Orior on May 24, 2011, 10:02:50 PM
O'Neill,Orior,pintsofguinness,Milltown Row 2,new devil,EC Unique,gerry,gawa316,brokencrossbar1,Ziggysego,thewobbler,Banana Man,Hardstation,Ulick,AQMP,Norf Tyrone,gallsman,saffron sam2,fitzroyalty,Puckoon,Lynchbhoy,Gabriel_Hurl,Tony Fearon,Tony Baloney and Minder....................Can you hear me?

YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING TONIGHT.

I feel terribly hurt. But Armagh will take the pain away by beating the Queen's Arselickers on Saturday evening.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on May 24, 2011, 10:05:25 PM
Speaking of that, is Maggie Thatcher the only one of that original list of (your boys took a hell of a beating) still alive?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 24, 2011, 10:15:46 PM
Speaking of that, is Maggie Thatcher the only one of that original list of (your boys took a hell of a beating) still alive?

Is she still alive?  Shame, at least though we'll have another day off soon enough :P 

Laoislad that cuts deep, real deep :'( :P
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: EC Unique on May 24, 2011, 10:19:15 PM
O'Neill,Orior,pintsofguinness,Milltown Row 2,new devil,EC Unique,gerry,gawa316,brokencrossbar1,Ziggysego,thewobbler,Banana Man,Hardstation,Ulick,AQMP,Norf Tyrone,gallsman,saffron sam2,fitzroyalty,Puckoon,Lynchbhoy,Gabriel_Hurl,Tony Fearon,Tony Baloney and Minder....................Can you hear me?

YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING TONIGHT.

I was on skysports 2 watching Gaza's testamonial. Could not give a flying f**k about Ireland north or south!  Utd got beat too though :-\
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Post by: laoislad on May 24, 2011, 10:19:52 PM
Speaking of that, is Maggie Thatcher the only one of that original list of (your boys took a hell of a beating) still alive?

"We are the best in the world! We are best in the world! We have beaten England 2-1 in football!! It is completely unbelievable! We have beaten England! England, birthplace of giants. Lord Nelson, Lord Beaverbrook, Sir Winston Churchill, Sir Anthony Eden, Clement Attlee, Henry Cooper, Lady Diana--we have beaten them all. We have beaten them all. Maggie Thatcher can you hear me?"

    "Maggie Thatcher, I have a message to you in the middle of the election campaign. I have a message to you: We have knocked England out of the World Cup of football. Maggie Thatcher, as they say in your language in boxing bars around Madison Square Garden in New York: Your boys took a hell of a beating! Your boys took a hell of a beating!"
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BennyHarp on May 24, 2011, 10:22:37 PM
Did I hear Gerry Armstrong say in commentary on Sky after Robbie Keane scored his first goal that he was the Republic's David Healy? Praise indeed!
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Post by: ross4life on May 24, 2011, 10:25:17 PM
O'Neill,Orior,pintsofguinness,Milltown Row 2,new devil,EC Unique,gerry,gawa316,brokencrossbar1,Ziggysego,thewobbler,Banana Man,Hardstation,Ulick,AQMP,Norf Tyrone,gallsman,saffron sam2,fitzroyalty,Puckoon,Lynchbhoy,Gabriel_Hurl,Tony Fearon,Tony Baloney and Minder....................Can you hear me?

YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING TONIGHT.

Christ where over run with nordie's on this forum.
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Post by: andoireabu on May 24, 2011, 10:27:32 PM
O'Neill,Orior,pintsofguinness,Milltown Row 2,new devil,EC Unique,gerry,gawa316,brokencrossbar1,Ziggysego,thewobbler,Banana Man,Hardstation,Ulick,AQMP,Norf Tyrone,gallsman,saffron sam2,fitzroyalty,Puckoon,Lynchbhoy,Gabriel_Hurl,Tony Fearon,Tony Baloney and Minder....................Can you hear me?

YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING TONIGHT.

Christ where over run with nordie's on this forum.
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Post by: red hander on May 24, 2011, 10:40:48 PM
Did I hear Gerry Armstrong say in commentary on Sky after Robbie Keane scored his first goal that he was the Republic's David Healy? Praise indeed!

I'm glad to see his comedy career is going so well ... he was just on the news there talking about the 'poaching' and saying 'I would never have contemplated playing for the Republic' ... it's a good job, Gerry, cos the Republic would never have contemplated picking you, ye c**k  :D
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Post by: AZOffaly on May 24, 2011, 10:43:09 PM
I'd say they would have played him, he wasn't bad.

I see on OWC they reckon the ROI fans booed the NI anthem, booed Steven Davis, and chanted ooh-ah Up the 'Ra?

Is this true? Pathetic if so.
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Post by: laoislad on May 24, 2011, 10:48:10 PM
O'Neill,Orior,pintsofguinness,Milltown Row 2,new devil,EC Unique,gerry,gawa316,brokencrossbar1,Ziggysego,thewobbler,Banana Man,Hardstation,Ulick,AQMP,Norf Tyrone,gallsman,saffron sam2,fitzroyalty,Puckoon,Lynchbhoy,Gabriel_Hurl,Tony Fearon,Tony Baloney and Minder....................Can you hear me?

YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING TONIGHT.

Christ where over run with nordie's on this forum.

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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thewobbler on May 24, 2011, 10:52:00 PM
International football doesn't have much time left, when two close and bitter rivals can neither attract a crowd nor put on a show.
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Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 24, 2011, 11:00:27 PM
International football doesn't have much time left, when two close and bitter rivals can neither attract a crowd nor put on a show.

End of season, no nothing tournament that the players don't even want to play in.  If it was worth anything the place would be hiving.
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Post by: Orangemac on May 24, 2011, 11:01:54 PM
International football doesn't have much time left, when two close and bitter rivals can neither attract a crowd nor put on a show.
Timing of this competiton is crap with season just ended, play offs and qualifiers next week, not to mention ticket prices.

Ad on radio is a laugh. Stars are coming in the Nations cup or whatever it is called. "Keane.... Evans.......Bale.......Fletcher".

Shows how far Scotland have fallen from the days of Dalglish, Souness,etc when their most glamorous player is Darren Fletcher
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 24, 2011, 11:31:47 PM
I'd say they would have played him, he wasn't bad.

I see on OWC they reckon the ROI fans booed the NI anthem, booed Steven Davis, and chanted ooh-ah Up the 'Ra?

GSTQ got a bit of a half-hearted booing alright. Nothing compared to what the Scots or the Welsh give it though. Can't say I noticed any of the others.
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Post by: Main Street on May 24, 2011, 11:48:11 PM
I'd say they would have played him, he wasn't bad.

I see on OWC they reckon the ROI fans booed the NI anthem, booed Steven Davis, and chanted ooh-ah Up the 'Ra?

GSTQ got a bit of a half-hearted booing alright. Nothing compared to what the Scots or the Welsh give it though. Can't say I noticed any of the others.
Davis received boos when he was leaving the pitch to be subbed.
Hardly worth mentioning, never mind deserve a presupposed conditional condemnation from AZ, based on owc hearsay.
The game was played in good friendly spirt all through.
I just hope the  owc fans were more law abiding than the drunk and disorderly element who attended their game against Scotland.
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Post by: Puckoon on May 24, 2011, 11:56:10 PM
Why's it hardly worth mentioning? Would it be mentioned if the roles were reversed?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: David McKeown on May 25, 2011, 02:24:10 AM
I'd say they would have played him, he wasn't bad.

I see on OWC they reckon the ROI fans booed the NI anthem, booed Steven Davis, and chanted ooh-ah Up the 'Ra?

Is this true? Pathetic if so.

I went down to the match with a couple of my NI supporting mates and we were sat close the most vocal Ireland fans.  Initially we thought they were chanting oh ah up the ra but when we actually listened it was clear they were singing a song about Paul McGrath of which the line oh ah Paul McGrath was used. Whilst it was clear from where we were sitting that was what they were singing I can understnad what it must have sounded like at the other end.

I didnt notice Davis getting any abuse either although the anthem was booed which was not nice to hear and should be condemned. That said The most trouble though seemed to come from the NI fans though when they unfurled a banner saying "FAI stop poaching our players but you can have Gibson" after which there seemed to be a few minor disturbances between NI fans and stewards.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: new devil on May 25, 2011, 06:16:36 AM
I'd say they would have played him, he wasn't bad.

I see on OWC they reckon the ROI fans booed the NI anthem, booed Steven Davis, and chanted ooh-ah Up the 'Ra?

Is this true? Pathetic if so.

I went down to the match with a couple of my NI supporting mates and we were sat close the most vocal Ireland fans.  Initially we thought they were chanting oh ah up the ra but when we actually listened it was clear they were singing a song about Paul McGrath of which the line oh ah Paul McGrath was used. Whilst it was clear from where we were sitting that was what they were singing I can understnad what it must have sounded like at the other end.

I didnt notice Davis getting any abuse either although the anthem was booed which was not nice to hear and should be condemned. That said The most trouble though seemed to come from the NI fans though when they unfurled a banner saying "FAI stop poaching our players but you can have Gibson" after which there seemed to be a few minor disturbances between NI fans and stewards.

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on May 25, 2011, 08:17:36 AM
Delighted for Stephen Ward. Trap only told him at lunchtime he was playing and it capped off a great week for him. 
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Post by: nifan on May 25, 2011, 08:24:01 AM
I'd say they would have played him, he wasn't bad.

I see on OWC they reckon the ROI fans booed the NI anthem, booed Steven Davis, and chanted ooh-ah Up the 'Ra?

Is this true? Pathetic if so.


BBC report said anthem was "roundly booed", but didnt mention anything about davis or up the ra, though main street seems to confirm that the davis one happened.
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Post by: tommysmith on May 25, 2011, 09:45:00 AM
I'd say they would have played him, he wasn't bad.

I see on OWC they reckon the ROI fans booed the NI anthem, booed Steven Davis, and chanted ooh-ah Up the 'Ra?

Is this true? Pathetic if so.


BBC report said anthem was "roundly booed", but didnt mention anything about davis or up the ra, though main street seems to confirm that the davis one happened.

All them things are mild compared what would have happened if the shoe was on the other foot.
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Post by: lynchbhoy on May 25, 2011, 09:56:04 AM
I'd say they would have played him, he wasn't bad.

I see on OWC they reckon the ROI fans booed the NI anthem, booed Steven Davis, and chanted ooh-ah Up the 'Ra?

Is this true? Pathetic if so.
yes gstq was booed - you could hear it on the telly clearly enough from the news highlights.
People say it wasnt that much or that many booing- well there was fcuk all of a crowd so it woul dhave been a large enough percentage to be that audible imo.
ok maybe young lads half drunk acting the maggot - but still booing.

didnt hear boos for davis during the match, but I dont think he had the ball more than twice in the highlights.

didnt hear any ooh ahh up the ra.
Did see plenty of union jacks - must have been at least 4/5 - prob one uj for every 5 members of the north of Ireland support !

RTE did start their highlights programme hinting at some 'trouble' or disturbance - but this wasnt mentioned at the end of the prog - that I heard anyhow.
I suspect now that it was related to the crowd 'trouble' - was it bad  and how bad was it. Couldnt have been much, th enews had nothing on it and there were feck all north of Ireland fans there anyhow.

Finally - good run out for Ireland B team - shows that we have more strength in depth than the north's B team !

laoislad - yer a sour hoor  - but that made me laugh !
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Post by: lynchbhoy on May 25, 2011, 09:57:11 AM
Delighted for Stephen Ward. Trap only told him at lunchtime he was playing and it capped off a great week for him.
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jeez- he did well, was impressed with him last night - ok he wasnt up against much but he looked good and showed a poachers instinct! Big lad too it seems...
well done to him, i'd say the family are over the moon !
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Post by: lynchbhoy on May 25, 2011, 09:58:23 AM
after seeing Fermanagh's performance last sunday, I thought they were the worst team around - but I think we could set up a game v the north of Irleand side - fecking hell they are well matched.

Also - Trappatoni's english is getting more like 'stavros' each time I hear him !!!
 
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Post by: Main Street on May 25, 2011, 11:30:47 AM
Why's it hardly worth mentioning?
It was hardly worth mentioning because no NI player was booed when playing, the game was played in good spirits, one player got booed by 50 or 60 when he was leaving the pitch to be subbed, it was hardly worth mentioning.
Just like the booing of the President was hardly worth mentioning.

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Would it be mentioned if the roles were reversed?
I don't know, I'm not into having conditional opinions.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 25, 2011, 11:52:05 AM
Oh aye a few people booed Davis and its a big scandal....I was at the match...There's no mention of the Orange Order flag that was produced or the fans trying to burn a Irish flag just after going 4-0 down...Get back on your high horse...
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Post by: Main Street on May 25, 2011, 12:10:53 PM
Wtf was this shoewaving about?  ;D
 
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Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 25, 2011, 12:17:35 PM
Don't know but the smell must have been horrific..lol
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Post by: magpie seanie on May 25, 2011, 12:25:35 PM
Tony Fearon must think it's Christmas!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: davegaasportsdesk on May 25, 2011, 12:43:50 PM
I hope that this player 'no-show' mess is sorted before the Macedonia game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Mentalman on May 25, 2011, 12:51:41 PM
I hope that this player 'no-show' mess is sorted before the Macedonia game.

Wigan and Martinez seem determined to drive a wedge in there, despite the die now being cast for young McCarthy. Time for some of his advisors to start communicating with the FAI directly as that relationship seems to have broken down. As for the Stoke boys I'd love to know what happened there. And Anthony Stokes? Tired after 20 minutes in a cup final that was already won? Not impressed.
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Post by: Declan on May 25, 2011, 01:29:19 PM
If this happened under stan or Kerr etc they'd be crucified in the press. It seems that Trap can get away with anything because he reminds everyone of the scatty old grandad with the funny accent
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Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 25, 2011, 01:36:03 PM
If this happened under stan or Kerr etc they'd be crucified in the press. It seems that Trap can get away with anything because he reminds everyone of the scatty old grandad with the funny accent

Well I know personally one of the players who was supposed to be a "no show" even was named in the team but his physio at his club phoned the FAI on Sunday...He has a niggling injury...Probably could have played but 6 weeks rest is advised by a professional physio to keep him right for next season and considering Stoke start back 2nd July was advised not to play!! It's Traps fault if the messages are not being relayed to him...
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Post by: Mentalman on May 25, 2011, 01:45:07 PM
If this happened under stan or Kerr etc they'd be crucified in the press. It seems that Trap can get away with anything because he reminds everyone of the scatty old grandad with the funny accent

Well I know personally one of the players who was supposed to be a "no show" even was named in the team but his physio at his club phoned the FAI on Sunday...He has a niggling injury...Probably could have played but 6 weeks rest is advised by a professional physio to keep him right for next season and considering Stoke start back 2nd July was advised not to play!! It's Traps fault if the messages are not being relayed to him...

Not talking about this players case, but in general the whole thing seems so haphazard and unorganised, surely top priority from an FAI point of view would be knowing you had all your ducks in a row so to speak? Have contacted players, or at least make sure they know who to contact if they have to withdraw? I think the procedure is that the player's club physios and the Irish medical team have to liase on injuries, if not or any doubt and the player should be over here so the Irish team medics can make an assessment. Seems in the case of McCarthy the Irish medics don't accept the Wigan diagnosis but there was no firther reply from Wigan on the matter. It's a mess at the moment, not just for Ireland either by the sounds of it.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/james-mccarthy-has-a-major-problem-with-giovanni-trapattoni-the-question-is-how-is-he-going-to-solve-it-2656594.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/james-mccarthy-has-a-major-problem-with-giovanni-trapattoni-the-question-is-how-is-he-going-to-solve-it-2656594.html)
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Post by: davegaasportsdesk on May 25, 2011, 02:07:08 PM
It seems like everybody is talking about it. http://www.newstalk.ie/2011/sport/has-the-honour-of-playing-for-your-country-become-less-of-a-priority-to-the-modern-day-footballer/ (http://www.newstalk.ie/2011/sport/has-the-honour-of-playing-for-your-country-become-less-of-a-priority-to-the-modern-day-footballer/)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 25, 2011, 02:25:28 PM
If this happened under stan or Kerr etc they'd be crucified in the press. It seems that Trap can get away with anything because he reminds everyone of the scatty old grandad with the funny accent

Well I know personally one of the players who was supposed to be a "no show" even was named in the team but his physio at his club phoned the FAI on Sunday...He has a niggling injury...Probably could have played but 6 weeks rest is advised by a professional physio to keep him right for next season and considering Stoke start back 2nd July was advised not to play!! It's Traps fault if the messages are not being relayed to him...

Not talking about this players case, but in general the whole thing seems so haphazard and unorganised, surely top priority from an FAI point of view would be knowing you had all your ducks in a row so to speak? Have contacted players, or at least make sure they know who to contact if they have to withdraw? I think the procedure is that the player's club physios and the Irish medical team have to liase on injuries, if not or any doubt and the player should be over here so the Irish team medics can make an assessment. Seems in the case of McCarthy the Irish medics don't accept the Wigan diagnosis but there was no firther reply from Wigan on the matter. It's a mess at the moment, not just for Ireland either by the sounds of it.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/james-mccarthy-has-a-major-problem-with-giovanni-trapattoni-the-question-is-how-is-he-going-to-solve-it-2656594.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/james-mccarthy-has-a-major-problem-with-giovanni-trapattoni-the-question-is-how-is-he-going-to-solve-it-2656594.html)

Your Right that's the way it supposed to happen...The player i'm talking about missed last years FA Cup final through Injury...The FAI asked for scans which he gave them and they accepted that... I mean your not going to fake injury to put you out of the cup final...Seems like a right mess just hope its sorted soon!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Mentalman on May 25, 2011, 02:37:28 PM
Your Right that's the way it supposed to happen...The player i'm talking about missed last years FA Cup final through Injury...The FAI asked for scans which he gave them and they accepted that... I mean your not going to fake injury to put you out of the cup final...Seems like a right mess just hope its sorted soon!!

Jeez, sounds like a right flustercuck! Then again, FAI, should I be surprised?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 25, 2011, 02:43:41 PM
There is just a generally apathy towards the Irish team, there are many reasons I would suggest for this

1. They are not successful and Irish fans love a good bandwagon
2. The EPL and UCL dwarfs all other sporting coverage from September to May, we are saturated with it, look at the Giggs superinjuction saga, there are more worry superinjunctions out there but this is the one the media run with because they know it will appeal to masses
3. Your local football fans, despite their best efforts can't identify with the Irish players and I would suggest that the Irish players stuggle to identify with the Irish fans
4. Socio ecomomic, traditionally the majority of soccer fans are from working class backgrounds who have been hit hard by the recession and simply can't afford it.

I'm not sure if it will ever recover from this apathy as the EPL and UCL seem to get bigger and bigger every year and certainly the knock out stages is the highest standard a professional soccer player can aspire to.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on May 25, 2011, 03:02:21 PM
I agree with the most of that Dinny plus - international soccer is BORING! Save for the finals of major tournaments (and many of the games in them are poor too) most of the games are like watching paint dry.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 25, 2011, 03:50:23 PM
I agree with the most of that Dinny plus - international soccer is BORING! Save for the finals of major tournaments (and many of the games in them are poor too) most of the games are like watching paint dry.

The entertainment value is dire I agree not helped by the conservative tactics of Trapp and Kerr and the no tactics from Stan, the qualifier night in Paris is one of the few times in recent memory that I have been excited by an Irish performance.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on May 25, 2011, 06:17:23 PM
If this happened under stan or Kerr etc they'd be crucified in the press. It seems that Trap can get away with anything because he reminds everyone of the scatty old grandad with the funny accent

Well I know personally one of the players who was supposed to be a "no show" even was named in the team but his physio at his club phoned the FAI on Sunday...He has a niggling injury...Probably could have played but 6 weeks rest is advised by a professional physio to keep him right for next season and considering Stoke start back 2nd July was advised not to play!! It's Traps fault if the messages are not being relayed to him...

Will Wilson be available for the Macedonia game? With no Dunne, probably no Clark, Kilbane nearly dead, and the terrifying reappearance of Paul McShane, he could well be needed.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on June 04, 2011, 12:32:39 AM
Cox has really made hay while the sun shone and Shane Long has lost out on many fronts

Keane and Cox to start for Ireland 03 JUN 2011 20:23

Robbie Keane has been declared fit to start for the Republic of Ireland's crucial Euro 2012 qualifier clash against Macedonia on Saturday. 
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The striker suffered a groin injury at training in Malahide on Thursday but passed a fitness test today and will start up front alongside Simon Cox. 
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In the absence of Sean St Ledger, Darren O'Dea is named at centre-half, where he will partner John O'Shea. Stephen Kelly and Kevin Kilbane are at left and right back, while Shay Given starts in goal. 
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In midfield, Aiden McGeady and Stephen Hunt are named on the wings and Glenn Whelan and Keith Andrews are in the centre with the team set up to play Trapattoni's familiar 4-4-2 formation. 
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Ireland team to play Macedonia in Group B Euro 2012 qualifier, Skopje, Saturday, 8.30pm: 
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Shay Given, Stephen Kelly, Darren O'Dea, John O'Shea, Kevin Kilbane; Aidan McGeady, Glenn Whelan, Keith Andrews, Stephen Hunt; Robbie Keane, Simon Cox 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: hardstation on June 04, 2011, 12:35:17 AM
Why do they always play against Macedonia?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Blowitupref on June 04, 2011, 02:29:35 AM
I agree with the most of that Dinny plus - international soccer is BORING! Save for the finals of major tournaments (and many of the games in them are poor too) most of the games are like watching paint dry.

The entertainment value is dire I agree not helped by the conservative tactics of Trapp and Kerr and the no tactics from Stan, the qualifier night in Paris is one of the few times in recent memory that I have been excited by an Irish performance.

Not just ROI the last World cup was awful & they used every excuse from the the ball,weather to the vuvuzela. saying all that i'm looking forward to the copa America in July as it should bring some excitement.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on June 04, 2011, 02:03:20 PM
When you mention Macedonia people always remember the beatings and the Orange jersey.  No one ever seems to remember our worst result against this side.  The 1-1 away draw back in 1999 that cost us automatic qualification to Euro 2000.  Goal headed in from a corner in the last seconds of the match.  One of my worse memories as an Irish fan.

Tonight I don't think we will win.  Could be the usual.  Take a 1-0 lead early on, concede soon after and then battle to a 1-1 draw.  A win would put us in a great position though.
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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ardtole on June 04, 2011, 05:21:28 PM
Russia drawing 1-1 at ht with Armenia. I thought the Russians would win handy, plenty of time left though I suppose.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on June 04, 2011, 05:26:43 PM
How is Kilbane still starting??
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ardtole on June 04, 2011, 05:32:14 PM
Russians 2-1 ahead now with 30 mins left.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 04, 2011, 05:34:04 PM
How is Kilbane still starting??

Jump leads.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Blowitupref on June 04, 2011, 05:58:02 PM
When you compare the current ROI line up with teams of the past it will be some achievement if Trapattoni get us to Euro 2012.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shortso79 on June 04, 2011, 09:13:21 PM
Come on Ireland !

Keano

Mac's missed a penalty
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Blowitupref on June 04, 2011, 09:14:35 PM
How does the table look as it stands?
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Post by: Geoff Tipps on June 04, 2011, 09:17:43 PM
1.   Slovakia   6   4   1   1   6:4   13
2.   Russia   6   4   1   1   9:4   13
3.   Ireland   6   4   1   1   11:6   13
4.   Armenia   6   2   2   2   10:7   8
5.   FYR Mdonia   6   1   1   4   5:8   4
6.   Andorra   6   0   0   6   1:13   0
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 04, 2011, 09:22:48 PM
That was no penalty, o shea got the ball all though granted if was pandevs ball. He did well to play on after that. :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on June 04, 2011, 09:24:43 PM
Luck of the Irish.  Mac should have had a penalty and maybe a 2nd.  Watching it on RTE2 which may be deferred coverage.

Come on Ireland.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 04, 2011, 09:25:47 PM
Given: Even injured he is better than Hart
Kelly: Quiet
O'Dea: O'Dea oh dear.
O'Shea: Poor
Kilbane: Great servant, crap left back.
Hunt: Usual mix of skill effort and psychosis. Their left back is playing well though.
Whelan: Might as well be Ronnie.
Andrews: Took a bang on the head but it didn't work.
McGeady: Usual mix of pointless dribbles.
Cox: Should have had a goal and got a yellow card. Sums it up.
Keane: Still knows how to score thankfully.

Trapp: A genius to get us remotely competitive.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Blowitupref on June 04, 2011, 09:30:43 PM
Given: Even injured he is better than Hart
Kelly: Quiet
O'Dea: O'Dea oh dear.
O'Shea: Poor
Kilbane: Great servant, crap left back.
Hunt: Usual mix of skill effort and psychosis. Their left back is playing well though.
Whelan: Might as well be Ronnie.
Andrews: Took a bang on the head but it didn't work.
McGeady: Usual mix of pointless dribbles.
Cox: Should have had a goal and got a yellow card. Sums it up.
Keane: Still knows how to score thankfully.

Trapp: A genius to get us remotely competitive.
+1
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 04, 2011, 09:51:52 PM
If Microdisney were any use they'd be at least level. Ireland switched off in second half.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thewobbler on June 04, 2011, 10:03:16 PM
Shane Long has become a really useful player.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 04, 2011, 10:04:45 PM
If Microdisney were any use they'd be at least level. Ireland switched off in second half.
I thought we look pretty untested in the 2nd half
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on June 04, 2011, 10:24:13 PM
Fair play to Robbie Keane,he has his critics and begrudgers but its hard to slate a man who has scored 51 International goals.
Credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on June 04, 2011, 10:27:33 PM
Given: Even injured he is better than Hart
Kelly: Quiet
O'Dea: O'Dea oh dear.
O'Shea: Poor
Kilbane: Great servant, crap left back.
Hunt: Usual mix of skill effort and psychosis. Their left back is playing well though.
Whelan: Might as well be Ronnie.
Andrews: Took a bang on the head but it didn't work.
McGeady: Usual mix of pointless dribbles.
Cox: Should have had a goal and got a yellow card. Sums it up.
Keane: Still knows how to score thankfully.

Trapp: A genius to get us remotely competitive.
+1

A defeat would have been the icing on the cake for you pair

Make shift central defence, no Dunne, Doyle or Duff. A 2 nil away from home..massive result. Were always gonna drop deep with 2 up in the 2nd half. Not the greatest bunch of players, but players with big hearts which is slowly becoming a rare comodity in the lesser payed Int soccer
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shortso79 on June 04, 2011, 10:31:35 PM
Just a wee note... re second place


Ranking of second-placed teams

Because some groups contain six teams and some five, matches against the sixth-placed team in each group are not included in this ranking. As a result, eight matches played by each team will count for the purposes of the second-placed table

Tiebreakers

The following criteria are applied to determine the rankings.

Higher number of points obtained in these matches
Superior goal difference from these matches
Higher number of goals scored in these matches
Higher number of away goals scored in these matches
Position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system
Fair play ranking in these matches
Drawing of lots
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 04, 2011, 10:33:10 PM
Given: Even injured he is better than Hart
Kelly: Quiet
O'Dea: O'Dea oh dear.
O'Shea: Poor
Kilbane: Great servant, crap left back.
Hunt: Usual mix of skill effort and psychosis. Their left back is playing well though.
Whelan: Might as well be Ronnie.
Andrews: Took a bang on the head but it didn't work.
McGeady: Usual mix of pointless dribbles.
Cox: Should have had a goal and got a yellow card. Sums it up.
Keane: Still knows how to score thankfully.

Trapp: A genius to get us remotely competitive.
+1

A defeat would have been the icing on the cake for you pair

Make shift central defence, no Dunne, Doyle or Duff. A 2 nil away from home..massive result. Were always gonna drop deep with 2 up in the 2nd half. Not the greatest bunch of players, but players with big hearts which is slowly becoming a rare comodity in the lesser payed Int soccer

This is a football competition not a big heart competition. We are not very good at football theses days sadly.

We are crap but we are less crap than Macedonia.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thewobbler on June 04, 2011, 10:41:45 PM
That was a superb win tonight. Anyone pondering quality at this moment should be hanged for treason. Well done Ireland, and special mention for the greatest attacking player this country has ever produced. I doubt anyone on this forum will live long enough to see his goalscoring record eclipsed.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on June 04, 2011, 10:50:53 PM
Given: Even injured he is better than Hart
Kelly: Quiet
O'Dea: O'Dea oh dear.
O'Shea: Poor
Kilbane: Great servant, crap left back.
Hunt: Usual mix of skill effort and psychosis. Their left back is playing well though.
Whelan: Might as well be Ronnie.
Andrews: Took a bang on the head but it didn't work.
McGeady: Usual mix of pointless dribbles.
Cox: Should have had a goal and got a yellow card. Sums it up.
Keane: Still knows how to score thankfully.

Trapp: A genius to get us remotely competitive.
+1

A defeat would have been the icing on the cake for you pair

Make shift central defence, no Dunne, Doyle or Duff. A 2 nil away from home..massive result. Were always gonna drop deep with 2 up in the 2nd half. Not the greatest bunch of players, but players with big hearts which is slowly becoming a rare comodity in the lesser payed Int soccer

This is a football competition not a big heart competition. We are not very good at football theses days sadly.

We are crap but we are less crap than Macedonia.

Big heart and commitment has us top of the group

"We are crap"..yer impressing no one
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 04, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
That was a superb win tonight. Anyone pondering quality at this moment should be hanged for treason. Well done Ireland, and special mention for the greatest attacking player this country has ever produced. I doubt anyone on this forum will live long enough to see his goalscoring record eclipsed.

Lots of balance and perspective there.  ::)

Take Robbie Keane and Shay Given out of that team and it is a poor team. Dunne is huge loss fair enough but our problem is two central midfielders who cannot string successive passes together. They are hackers. Add in two weak full backs, if Dunne is missing - no centre backs and you have a poor team.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thewobbler on June 04, 2011, 11:00:25 PM
Muppet, anyone who has watched an Ireland game in the past 5 years would be fit to tell you that it is a side bereft of quality. There is no need to bring it up tonight. Just celebrate overachievement when you're lucky enough to witness it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Orangemac on June 04, 2011, 11:08:05 PM
Fair play to Robbie Keane,he has his critics and begrudgers but its hard to slate a man who has scored 51 International goals.
Credit where credit is due.
Agreed he can be a frustrating bugger when his flicks/dummies don't work but his international record is incredible and he has scored against all the top teams, Spain, Italy, France, Germany, not a flat track bully lke Peter Crouch who has a lot of international goals but mostly against crap teams.

Ireland need Keane and Given playing regularly in the Prem league next year. 10 points from last 4 games would give Ireland great chance of winning group.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 04, 2011, 11:08:44 PM
Muppet, anyone who has watched an Ireland game in the past 5 years would be fit to tell you that it is a side bereft of quality. There is no need to bring it up tonight. Just celebrate overachievement when you're lucky enough to witness it.

Ok I'll pretend we are great.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on June 04, 2011, 11:14:08 PM
Muppet, anyone who has watched an Ireland game in the past 5 years would be fit to tell you that it is a side bereft of quality. There is no need to bring it up tonight. Just celebrate overachievement when you're lucky enough to witness it.

Ok I'll pretend we are great.

Have a little perspective.
Dunphy has done his work..grow a set and think for yourself man
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ardtole on June 04, 2011, 11:20:51 PM
You should give credit were credit is due. Ireland were missing Dunne, Duff and Doyle away from home in an arena were we dropped points previously with much better teams. In the build up to the game there was attention on the players who pulled out but over the last 10 years the commitment shown by Given, Oshea, Kilbane, Dunne, Duff, McGeady, Doyle, Keane amongst others has been excellent. Sadly in the future this is unlikely to be repeated as the newer breed of professional footballers seem to have lost interest or pride in playing for their country. I really hope I am wrong though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 04, 2011, 11:43:31 PM
Muppet, anyone who has watched an Ireland game in the past 5 years would be fit to tell you that it is a side bereft of quality. There is no need to bring it up tonight. Just celebrate overachievement when you're lucky enough to witness it.

Ok I'll pretend we are great.

Have a little perspective.
Dunphy has done his work..grow a set and think for yourself man

Do you only do ad hominem?  ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sammymaguire on June 05, 2011, 12:02:41 AM
Ireland are 34th in the FIFA world rankings. A small island of the west coast of Europe with a small population, if we qualify for any major tournaments that's an achievement on it's own.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on June 05, 2011, 12:30:54 PM
It's the third time we have gone there and the first time we have won and won easy without playing well. We didn't control the ball, but still controlled the game and won on merit. Russia, a far better team than us, were very lucky to get a win there.
Pointless complaining that the players are not better than they are. They are about the best available. If people don't like it at intl level, then follow the entertainment provided by Spain or Brazil or stick to whichever club is in fashion.

O'Shea is a good central defender if he doesn't have to lead. Unlike Dunne and St Ledger, he isn't assertive enough to lead a rookie partner. Kilbane had a good game as long as he didn't try to play too much. Neither Ward at RB nor Foley at LB have showed enough so far and Cunningham when he gets fit, looks the most likely full back.
Of course we can all cry out for whoever Dunphy thinks should be there at CM, who was it 2 years ago? - Andy Reid? then last year it was Fahey.
Next up, a friendly on Tuesday against Italy.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 05, 2011, 06:25:23 PM
It's the third time we have gone there and the first time we have won and won easy without playing well. We didn't control the ball, but still controlled the game and won on merit. Russia, a far better team than us, were very lucky to get a win there.
Pointless complaining that the players are not better than they are. They are about the best available. If people don't like it at intl level, then follow the entertainment provided by Spain or Brazil or stick to whichever club is in fashion.

O'Shea is a good central defender if he doesn't have to lead. Unlike Dunne and St Ledger, he isn't assertive enough to lead a rookie partner. Kilbane had a good game as long as he didn't try to play too much. Neither Ward at RB nor Foley at LB have showed enough so far and Cunningham when he gets fit, looks the most likely full back.
Of course we can all cry out for whoever Dunphy thinks should be there at CM, who was it 2 years ago? - Andy Reid? then last year it was Fahey.
Next up, a friendly on Tuesday against Italy.

Is the deal here that you either sing Ole, Ole, Ole all the time or else you are a Dunphy supporter? Either seems to prevent individual opinion.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: magpie seanie on June 05, 2011, 10:25:29 PM
I am and have been a major critic of Robbie Keane and I have outlined why in clear terms previously. However, I will say that 51 goals for Ireland is simply incredible and I cannot see that ever being beaten. Didn't see the game so cannot comment on it. Didn't think we'd win beforehand so its clearly a bloody good result.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2011, 09:20:56 PM
1-0 up against italy, 15 mins to go. Keith Andrews goal
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: No1 on June 07, 2011, 09:21:13 PM
Andy Keogh - can anyone give me a positive? I honestly can't think of one and usually I try to see the best in someone!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Big Puff on June 07, 2011, 09:21:58 PM
great performance tonite against a much stronger italian team (on paper)

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on June 07, 2011, 09:28:20 PM
Italy haven't beaten us in over 20 years now. I remember they beat us 2-0 in a tournament in the US in 1993 I think. Packie Bonner git sent off, it was 2-0 to Italy. In a subsequent match against Portugal Steve Staunton scored direct from a corner in a 2-0 win. That is all from memory.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2011, 09:35:29 PM
they wont do it tonight either - 2-0 now. Cox goal.

Would be great to qualify for a major tournament again
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on June 07, 2011, 09:47:19 PM
That is a big win for the repubalik. Italy are four time world champs and it is always nice to beat them. They don't get beaten by 2 goals very often.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: SHEEDY on June 07, 2011, 10:34:34 PM
brilliant win tonight and it looks at last that we have some serious competition for places. hopefully we can keep it going and qualify for the euros.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on June 07, 2011, 10:59:36 PM
If you want to see it, its on TG4 at the moment.

Beo if you believe that ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2011, 02:01:00 AM
Italy haven't beaten us in over 20 years now. I remember they beat us 2-0 in a tournament in the US in 1993 I think. Packie Bonner git sent off, it was 2-0 to Italy. In a subsequent match against Portugal Steve Staunton scored direct from a corner in a 2-0 win. That is all from memory.

I'd Imogen it is alright.  ;)

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on June 08, 2011, 09:10:43 AM
For all our faults, it would appear that we are hard to play against and hard to beat, and it looks with each game that it is getting harder to do both/either.  So, isn't that the manager's job done?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on June 08, 2011, 10:39:59 AM
Paul McShane seemed to have a good game.  Only one howler that I can remember.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 08, 2011, 12:12:07 PM
That was a superb win tonight. Anyone pondering quality at this moment should be hanged for treason. Well done Ireland, and special mention for the greatest attacking player this country has ever produced. I doubt anyone on this forum will live long enough to see his goalscoring record eclipsed.

Lots of balance and perspective there.  ::)

Take Robbie Keane and Shay Given out of that team and it is a poor team. Dunne is huge loss fair enough but our problem is two central midfielders who cannot string successive passes together. They are hackers. Add in two weak full backs, if Dunne is missing - no centre backs and you have a poor team.
while not Argentina or Barcelona, I cannot agree with that Muppet.

Given superb, Keane while infuriating for missing the simple chances can score and create.
Dunne now a great player but was once a liability. None of them are irreplaceable.
O'Shea was a superb centre back when young but man u ruined him for that by using him as a utility player. Can do a job for Ireland again. Unlike many, I like the raw O'Dea. St Ledget, Clarke and a whose of others to play at either full back position mean Ireland have a good amount of talent to draw from.
Same for the midfield and even now with new found strikers like Best, Walters and Cox to go along with Long and Doyle

the yonger players now depend on Trap to give them their chance. Mickey Harte like , Trap is not bringing on a few more when he should -though last nights game v Italy changed that a bit, by default I suspect rather than design !

I really think that ths is the best squad Ireland have had since 2002. Plenty of teams have proven that you dont need every player to be outstanding in order to do reasonably well.
even If we dont qualify for the euro 2012, i'd be very hopeful to qualify for the 2014 world cup !
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on June 08, 2011, 12:20:09 PM
Don't like getting carried away either but there does seem to be cover in most positions now which is a good sign.  Coleman & Ward looked great and could push to start in the Autumn if they keep it up.  I just love Tardelli's enthusiasm, he is a great asset to the group.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2011, 02:00:46 PM
That was a superb win tonight. Anyone pondering quality at this moment should be hanged for treason. Well done Ireland, and special mention for the greatest attacking player this country has ever produced. I doubt anyone on this forum will live long enough to see his goalscoring record eclipsed.

Lots of balance and perspective there.  ::)

Take Robbie Keane and Shay Given out of that team and it is a poor team. Dunne is huge loss fair enough but our problem is two central midfielders who cannot string successive passes together. They are hackers. Add in two weak full backs, if Dunne is missing - no centre backs and you have a poor team.
while not Argentina or Barcelona, I cannot agree with that Muppet.

Given superb, Keane while infuriating for missing the simple chances can score and create.
Dunne now a great player but was once a liability. None of them are irreplaceable.
O'Shea was a superb centre back when young but man u ruined him for that by using him as a utility player. Can do a job for Ireland again. Unlike many, I like the raw O'Dea. St Ledget, Clarke and a whose of others to play at either full back position mean Ireland have a good amount of talent to draw from.
Same for the midfield and even now with new found strikers like Best, Walters and Cox to go along with Long and Doyle

the yonger players now depend on Trap to give them their chance. Mickey Harte like , Trap is not bringing on a few more when he should -though last nights game v Italy changed that a bit, by default I suspect rather than design !

I really think that ths is the best squad Ireland have had since 2002. Plenty of teams have proven that you dont need every player to be outstanding in order to do reasonably well.
even If we dont qualify for the euro 2012, i'd be very hopeful to qualify for the 2014 world cup !

Hang on I'm not predicting the end of football. I'm was just criticising in particular that we have two central midfielders (Gibson appears to be next choice) who can't ever seem to get into a rhythm of stringing passes together and we are short two full backs and one good central defender. Richard Dunne can make up for some of the defensive problems and we may unearth some new talent so things can always improve quickly.

I'm still hopeful for James McCarthy who I think will be a star but I'm not going to go Ole, Ole, Ole after beating Macedonia who are 85th in the FIFA rankings.

But I still believe we are overachieving, even at the moment, due to the manager. As an aside how many goals are we scoring from clever moves at free kicks? I don't recall doing this since Brady used to hit someone running to the near post. Again down to the management I'd say.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 08, 2011, 02:14:04 PM
For all our faults, it would appear that we are hard to play against and hard to beat, and it looks with each game that it is getting harder to do both/either.  So, isn't that the manager's job done?

Kinda like many of the teams the Big Jack built, the sum being greater than the parts!

Olé, olé, olé, olé, ooooolé, oooolé :P
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2011, 02:18:43 PM
For all our faults, it would appear that we are hard to play against and hard to beat, and it looks with each game that it is getting harder to do both/either.  So, isn't that the manager's job done?

Kinda like many of the teams the Big Jack built, the sum being greater than the parts!

Olé, olé, olé, olé, ooooolé, oooolé :P

Irwin, O'Leary, Moran, Lawrenson, Brady, Whelan, McGrath, Stapleton, Aldridge, Houghton, Sheedy, Townsend, Keane etc.

Imagine what Trapp would have made out of that lot.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on June 08, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
For all our faults, it would appear that we are hard to play against and hard to beat, and it looks with each game that it is getting harder to do both/either.  So, isn't that the manager's job done?

Kinda like many of the teams the Big Jack built, the sum being greater than the parts!

Olé, olé, olé, olé, ooooolé, oooolé :P

Irwin, O'Leary, Moran, Lawrenson, Brady, Whelan, McGrath, Stapleton, Aldridge, Houghton, Sheedy, Townsend, Keane etc.

Imagine what Trapp would have made out of that lot.

Well, it might not be a whole lot different to what we're seeing at the moment - Charlton didn't have (or show) the confidence in their ability to play the ball through midfield, so why would Trappatoni be any different?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2011, 02:26:06 PM
For all our faults, it would appear that we are hard to play against and hard to beat, and it looks with each game that it is getting harder to do both/either.  So, isn't that the manager's job done?

Kinda like many of the teams the Big Jack built, the sum being greater than the parts!

Olé, olé, olé, olé, ooooolé, oooolé :P

Irwin, O'Leary, Moran, Lawrenson, Brady, Whelan, McGrath, Stapleton, Aldridge, Houghton, Sheedy, Townsend, Keane etc.

Imagine what Trapp would have made out of that lot.

Well, it might not be a whole lot different to what we're seeing at the moment - Charlton didn't have (or show) the confidence in their ability to play the ball through midfield, so why would Trappatoni be any different?

Trapp played Brady for Juventus and wasn't happy when the owners bought Platini and Boniek (only two foreigners allowed at the time).

Jack retired Brady, put McGrath midfield (Lawrenson before that) and picked Mick McCarthy.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on June 08, 2011, 02:36:33 PM
Trap is a football poet laureate compared to Jack's philosophy. To my mind he's doing what he thinks necessary to get the results needed. Not that I think a professional footballer shouldn't be able to control a ball and pass it 15 yards etc but it's obvious what the instructions are.
By the way I do think our options at fullback look better now after the recent games - Foley and Ward are decent players but don't expect them to be like Ashley Cole or Dani Alves and augment the attacking play because their instructions are not to cross the halfway line unless they really have to

Ole, Ole Get the plastic hammers ready!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on June 08, 2011, 02:40:00 PM
they wont do it tonight either - 2-0 now. Cox goal.

Would be great to qualify for a major tournament again

bigtime, qualification to a Euro or World Cup would be brilliant
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 08, 2011, 02:41:09 PM
Hang on I'm not predicting the end of football. I'm was just criticising in particular that we have two central midfielders (Gibson appears to be next choice) who can't ever seem to get into a rhythm of stringing passes together and we are short two full backs and one good central defender. Richard Dunne can make up for some of the defensive problems and we may unearth some new talent so things can always improve quickly.

I'm still hopeful for James McCarthy who I think will be a star but I'm not going to go Ole, Ole, Ole after beating Macedonia who are 85th in the FIFA rankings.

But I still believe we are overachieving, even at the moment, due to the manager. As an aside how many goals are we scoring from clever moves at free kicks? I don't recall doing this since Brady used to hit someone running to the near post. Again down to the management I'd say.
laughed at that bit in bold !
Think you are overestimating the quality in international soccer these days !
Barcelona have the average fan ruined. Even brazil are not really brazil anymore (if ya know what I mean!). Macedonia et al are no longer easy to beat. We are still finding our feet and won more comfortably than the 0-2 scoreline imo.
I think we have very good prospects of full backs, decent prospects at centre half and more than enough midfielders/forwards that woud take us to euro and WC finals IF the manager plays the right mix and not the 1-9-1 formation that he seems to like !
its like 'big jack days' all over again !
We beat italy who are no great shakes anymore , but are presumably way higher than us in the rankings - they had 5 of their starting euro qualifier team playing also. I think the signs are good, but they are still only signs and potential !!
yer a miserable hoor !!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on June 08, 2011, 03:23:03 PM
Trap is a football poet laureate compared to Jack's philosophy. To my mind he's doing what he thinks necessary to get the results needed. Not that I think a professional footballer shouldn't be able to control a ball and pass it 15 yards etc but it's obvious what the instructions are.
By the way I do think our options at fullback look better now after the recent games - Foley and Ward are decent players but don't expect them to be like Ashley Cole or Dani Alves and augment the attacking play because their instructions are not to cross the halfway line unless they really have to

Ole, Ole Get the plastic hammers ready!!!

In fairness, I was only trying to rile Elmo there - for me Trapp has a plan, Jack had an anti-plan.  Looking at the setup, it looks likely that our attacking strengths will be wide on both sides (Duff & McGeady, followed by Coleman, Hunt and Lawrence), which depend on the stability of the full-back slots, so it's reasonably positive.  I'd be happier if we were displaying other options through the middle, but I suppose so would Trapp.

Not much talk of Andy Reid now.  I don't see a place for McCarthy in that side at present - certainly not in the middle of the park. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on June 08, 2011, 03:29:47 PM
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I don't see a place for McCarthy in that side at present - certainly not in the middle of the park

Agreed - not a midfielder per se anyway  - was going to use a few cliches re in the hole or top of the diamond etc but you know what I mean!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on June 08, 2011, 03:38:02 PM
Yeah, advanced midfielder I suppose, with a target-man who could convert from crosses, and/or run onto short diagonals - that 'might' be Long/Doyle, but it's not Robbie. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2011, 03:50:27 PM
Hang on I'm not predicting the end of football. I'm was just criticising in particular that we have two central midfielders (Gibson appears to be next choice) who can't ever seem to get into a rhythm of stringing passes together and we are short two full backs and one good central defender. Richard Dunne can make up for some of the defensive problems and we may unearth some new talent so things can always improve quickly.

I'm still hopeful for James McCarthy who I think will be a star but I'm not going to go Ole, Ole, Ole after beating Macedonia who are 85th in the FIFA rankings.

But I still believe we are overachieving, even at the moment, due to the manager. As an aside how many goals are we scoring from clever moves at free kicks? I don't recall doing this since Brady used to hit someone running to the near post. Again down to the management I'd say.
laughed at that bit in bold !
Think you are overestimating the quality in international soccer these days !
Barcelona have the average fan ruined. Even brazil are not really brazil anymore (if ya know what I mean!). Macedonia et al are no longer easy to beat. We are still finding our feet and won more comfortably than the 0-2 scoreline imo.
I think we have very good prospects of full backs, decent prospects at centre half and more than enough midfielders/forwards that woud take us to euro and WC finals IF the manager plays the right mix and not the 1-9-1 formation that he seems to like !
its like 'big jack days' all over again !
We beat italy who are no great shakes anymore , but are presumably way higher than us in the rankings - they had 5 of their starting euro qualifier team playing also. I think the signs are good, but they are still only signs and potential !!
yer a miserable hoor !!

I'm a misunderestimated optimist.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on June 09, 2011, 11:15:20 AM
There's a place for a midfielder alright and 2 fullbacks, but apart from that we have enough available.
The best passing midfielders we have available are Fahey and Gibson. That's it.
Andrews has recovered from long term injury and playing well for us,
Possibly one of Fahey/Gibson will partner Andrews for the Slovakia game.
So far in this campaign, we have had an awful 60 minutes against Russia. We hit the post early on in that game and their 3rd goal had a wicked deflection. Whelan was comotose and Green, a mildly competent scrapper was left dangling on a rope.
We will give them a game in Russia.

Beat Slovakia at home we have 2nd place, get an away point against Russia and we have a very decent chance of automatic qualification (topping the group or best runner up).
That's how it is for Ireland in soccer. We have dogfights against the likes of Macedonia to qualify and beating them away or conceding a last minute equaliser, makes the difference between qualifying and failure. So féck the quality with the ball, in those dogfights, I can wait for that. First I want the 3 points -  as comfortable as possible.






Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on June 09, 2011, 11:53:02 AM
Trapp played Brady for Juventus and wasn't happy when the owners bought Platini and Boniek (only two foreigners allowed at the time).

Jack retired Brady, put McGrath midfield (Lawrenson before that) and picked Mick McCarthy.

You do remember Brady was instrumental in the 88 Euro qual campaign, culminating in a superb Brady performance in the last game against Bulgaria, even his red card was class.
You can argue about Brady's treatment after that, after a long layoff for a damaged cruciate ligament. When Ireland went off to italia 90, Brady had already played his last competitive game, a game he played for West ham after another lay off.

Lawrenson and McGrath were complete footballers. Lawrenson was used in midfield long before Charlton came. I distinctly remember Ireland beating Holland 2-1 at Lansdowne in 1981, Lawro was in midfield with Brady  and Daly.
 

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 09, 2011, 12:04:13 PM
Trapp played Brady for Juventus and wasn't happy when the owners bought Platini and Boniek (only two foreigners allowed at the time).

Jack retired Brady, put McGrath midfield (Lawrenson before that) and picked Mick McCarthy.

You do remember Brady was instrumental in the 88 Euro qual campaign, culminating in a superb Brady performance in the last game against Bulgaria, even his red card was class.
You can argue about Brady's treatment after that, after a long layoff for a damaged cruciate ligament. When Ireland went off to italia 90, Brady had already played his last competitive game, a game he played for West ham after another lay off.

Lawrenson and McGrath were complete footballers. Lawrenson was used in midfield long before Charlton came. I distinctly remember Ireland beating Holland 2-1 at Lansdowne in 1981, Lawro was in midfield with Brady  and Daly.

I remember, but Jack still retired Brady.

I also remember his last act for West Ham just before Italy 1990: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOz4wVRjEuI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOz4wVRjEuI)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Applesisapples on June 09, 2011, 12:39:39 PM
I'd say they would have played him, he wasn't bad.

I see on OWC they reckon the ROI fans booed the NI anthem, booed Steven Davis, and chanted ooh-ah Up the 'Ra?

Is this true? Pathetic if so.
BBC report said anthem was "roundly booed", but didnt mention anything about davis or up the ra, though main street seems to confirm that the davis one happened.
A bit late here but only right to boo an anthem which only represents the loyalist element of NI fans....oops sorry that's them all ;)

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on June 09, 2011, 01:01:55 PM
Jack did 'retire' Brady; he actually took him off in his testimonial against Germany in Lansdowne Road; I was there and remember thinking it was very bad form on the day (as did everyone around me, and Brady too, if I remember correctly).  As I recall, Brady said afterwards that he'd never play for a Charlton-managed Ireland team again.  Though he may have been officially retired at the time; hence the testimonial.  I'm not sure, he rambled on ...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 09, 2011, 01:04:41 PM
Jack did 'retire' Brady; he actually took him off in his testimonial against Germany in Lansdowne Road; I was there and remember thinking it was very bad form on the day (as did everyone around me, and Brady too, if I remember correctly).  As I recall, Brady said afterwards that he'd never play for a Charlton-managed Ireland team again.  Though he may have been officially retired at the time; hence the testimonial.  I'm not sure, he rambled on ...

Jack then seemed to change his mind and tried to put Brady back on again but the official didn't allow it as it was a proper international tie. Either that or I am getting senile.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on June 09, 2011, 02:22:06 PM
Brady was the first player to have an international release clause put into his contract when he signed for Juve.
No player could have wanted it more to go to Finals with Ireland than him and considering how he missed out on the '88 Euros.
Charlton had a brain fart over the issue. The manner in which it was done hurt Brady and was perceived by fans to be a crass insult to the finest player since Giles. The issue has been done to death. Charlton made a crude mistake, Brady got over it and came to terms with it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on June 09, 2011, 02:32:46 PM
Brady was the first player to have an international release clause put into his contract when he signed for Juve.
No player could have wanted it more to go to Finals with Ireland than him and considering how he missed out on the '88 Euros.
Charlton had a brain fart over the issue. The manner in which it was done hurt Brady and was perceived by fans to be a crass insult to the finest player since Giles. The issue has been done to death. Charlton made a crude mistake, Brady got over it and came to terms with it.

Everyone is over it. Just worth mentioning that Brady paid for most of his own flights to matches including friendlies.

I was just opining that Trapp might have played differently with the talent Jack had. That is not meant to knock Jack's achievements at all as but for the freakish bounce of a ball we could have been in a Euro semi-final with our tails up and confidence flying.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on June 09, 2011, 03:45:12 PM
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but for the freakish bounce of a ball we could have been in a Euro semi-final with our tails up and confidence flying

There were two freakish bounces in that match; the first was McGrath's header in the first half that came off the post onto the heel of a Dutch defender and somehow stayed out of the net; I don't want to talk about the other one.  :'(

And Main St., sorry for bringing the Brady saga up again.  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on June 09, 2011, 06:03:22 PM
Sorry my ass  ;D

How many are on the probation list?
Wilson, Walters, Gibson and McCarthy ?
Two nordies in that lot and another nordie shunted out of the successful u19 squad.
Charlton would have had their guts for garters.




Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ardtole on June 09, 2011, 09:20:10 PM
who was the nordie booted out of the u-19 squad?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on June 09, 2011, 09:45:33 PM
One of the Derry McEleaney's


edit -  Shane McEleney, pulled out a squad for a friendly international. Rejected the call up for another squad.
Eventually found himself excluded from the squad that made it to the Euro Finals to be played sometime soon.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 09, 2011, 09:51:55 PM
Trapp played Brady for Juventus and wasn't happy when the owners bought Platini and Boniek (only two foreigners allowed at the time).

Jack retired Brady, put McGrath midfield (Lawrenson before that) and picked Mick McCarthy.

You do remember Brady was instrumental in the 88 Euro qual campaign, culminating in a superb Brady performance in the last game against Bulgaria, even his red card was class.
You can argue about Brady's treatment after that, after a long layoff for a damaged cruciate ligament. When Ireland went off to italia 90, Brady had already played his last competitive game, a game he played for West ham after another lay off.

Lawrenson and McGrath were complete footballers. Lawrenson was used in midfield long before Charlton came. I distinctly remember Ireland beating Holland 2-1 at Lansdowne in 1981, Lawro was in midfield with Brady  and Daly.

I remember, but Jack still retired Brady.

I also remember his last act for West Ham just before Italy 1990: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOz4wVRjEuI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOz4wVRjEuI)

Christy cooney would not be impressed with
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bogball XV on June 27, 2011, 10:12:58 PM
Any links to the tweets alleging a high profile irish player has been playing away from home and has taken out a super-injunction?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on June 28, 2011, 01:17:01 PM
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Any links to the tweets alleging a high profile irish player has been playing away from home and has taken out a super-injunction?

We'll I heard a name mentioned months ago and was surpised but then again rumours are rumours but you'd want to be on serious money to be paying out the legal fees ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: bamboo on June 28, 2011, 04:03:17 PM
Lads,

Does anyone know for certain where the away match in Andorra will be played? I'm getting conflicting info stating that its either in Andorra or Barcelona.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AQMP on June 28, 2011, 04:08:28 PM
Any links to the tweets alleging a high profile irish player has been playing away from home and has taken out a super-injunction?

I'd think you'd best go to the Twitter site for info on tweets?  It has a search function.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 28, 2011, 04:14:04 PM
Lads,

Does anyone know for certain where the away match in Andorra will be played? I'm getting conflicting info stating that its either in Andorra or Barcelona.

The "wee" ground beside the Nou Camp.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2011, 04:15:36 PM
That's Espanyol's ground I think. I often think they must be pissed off to be beside the camp Nou.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: bamboo on June 28, 2011, 04:30:59 PM
I know that sometimes Andorra play their "bigger" games in the little "nou camp" but people have been suggestimng that they're trying to play more and more in their home stadium which holds about 1,200 people and is a 3hr bus ride from the nearest airport!!

GDA, is that official info or just a hunch? Looking to plan a trip but not knowing the exact venue is making it a bit more troublesome. Done Paris, Cyprus, Bulgaria, Germany in the last few years so would like to add barcelona to that list.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: No1 on June 28, 2011, 05:22:37 PM
No official word yet, they don't have to decide until 60 days before the game I think.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on June 28, 2011, 08:22:10 PM
That's Espanyol's ground I think. I often think they must be pissed off to be beside the camp Nou.

Espanyol have a brand new 40,000+ seater stadium opened in 2009.
Before that they played in the Olympic stadium,maybe before that they played in the stadium beside the Nou Camp I dunno, but they were in the Olympic Stadium from around '96 or '97 onwards till 2009
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 29, 2011, 09:56:44 AM
I know that sometimes Andorra play their "bigger" games in the little "nou camp" but people have been suggestimng that they're trying to play more and more in their home stadium which holds about 1,200 people and is a 3hr bus ride from the nearest airport!!

GDA, is that official info or just a hunch? Looking to plan a trip but not knowing the exact venue is making it a bit more troublesome. Done Paris, Cyprus, Bulgaria, Germany in the last few years so would like to add barcelona to that list.

Mate of mine living in Spain trying to get a few of us over for the match and as far as he's aware the match is in the "little" nou camp.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 29, 2011, 10:00:53 AM
New FIFA world rankings out today, Ireland should move up a good few places, 4 matches (3 techniquely competitive - cup involved and the other one against Italy), 4 wins and no goals conceded.
Should help to put Ireland into pot 2 for the World cup qualifer draw next month.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 29, 2011, 10:02:06 AM
Bollocks, just checked and only up 3 places!

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html

Should still be in Pot 2
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bogball XV on June 29, 2011, 10:11:38 AM
Any links to the tweets alleging a high profile irish player has been playing away from home and has taken out a super-injunction?

I'd think you'd best go to the Twitter site for info on tweets?  It has a search function.
I'd tried that, although tbh, in terms of suits etc, I think gaaboard would be well down the list in terms of coming after it.  It think it's hosted in the US anyway, so there's basically fcuk all chance that a 'world wide super-injunction' would have too much weight in a US court room, especially when they read the actual legislation and see how it has been abused by these celebrities and how valuable court time has been wasted with this bullshit.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AQMP on June 29, 2011, 12:01:11 PM
That's Espanyol's ground I think. I often think they must be pissed off to be beside the camp Nou.

Espanyol have a brand new 40,000+ seater stadium opened in 2009.
Before that they played in the Olympic stadium,maybe before that they played in the stadium beside the Nou Camp I dunno, but they were in the Olympic Stadium from around '96 or '97 onwards till 2009

Before using the Olympic Stadium, Espanyol played at the Estadi de Sarria, which was the venue for the famous Italy 3 Brazil 2 game in the 1982 World Cup.  The site was sold and the stadium demolished in 1997.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Applesisapples on June 29, 2011, 02:17:06 PM
That's Espanyol's ground I think. I often think they must be pissed off to be beside the camp Nou.
The Stadium beside the Nou Camp is Barca's second pitch where the second's play and it holds 40,000
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: red hander on June 29, 2011, 05:51:08 PM
I think Andorra have played all their games in this qualifying series in their own, tiny stadium, about 1200 capacity, so tickets will be extremely tight.  I can't see it being changed.  Was looking at Barcelona for this, but after the shenanigans with Slovakia, where a lot of boys (myself included) booked Vienna for Bratislava (big ground) only for the game to go to Zilina (small ground), the doubt over the venue (and the tickets) is a pain in the hole.  We went to Zilina from Vienna without tickets but by pure chance managed to get into the game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ballinaman on June 29, 2011, 05:55:58 PM
I think it all depends on how the games with Russia and Slovakia go, if we are still in with a shout of qualification, I've heard that it will definitely be moved to Barcelona.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 14, 2011, 01:56:22 PM
New home kit  ???

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http://blog.umbro.com/post/tailored-by-umbro-the-new-republic-of-ireland-2011-home-shirt/ (http://blog.umbro.com/post/tailored-by-umbro-the-new-republic-of-ireland-2011-home-shirt/)
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Post by: AZOffaly on July 14, 2011, 02:02:12 PM
Looks like your grandads pyjamas
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Post by: ballinaman on July 14, 2011, 02:29:59 PM
Stink
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Post by: Capt Pat on July 14, 2011, 10:04:24 PM
Its shit but it will fulfil its purpose and sell jersies.
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Post by: Rouge_Diablo on July 14, 2011, 10:53:38 PM
not a million miles from this

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which I happen to have bought, to go beside  the original one I have.
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Post by: Forever Green on July 15, 2011, 01:09:15 AM
Terrible looking shirt
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Post by: upmonaghansayswe on July 15, 2011, 05:32:11 PM
Just catching on to the rugby way of thinking!.. Dumb down the shade of green a bit, to appeal to those who mightn't just want to feel as "Irish" as others..

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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on July 29, 2011, 03:23:54 PM
U19's play Spain in Euro Semi final tonight live on RTE @ 6.30pm.
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Post by: AFS on July 29, 2011, 07:54:11 PM
U19's play Spain in Euro Semi final tonight live on RTE @ 6.30pm.

Getting annihilated. Spain are a class above everyone in this competition.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2011, 08:15:19 PM
It's easy to look the best in the world when your opposition can't string 3 passes together and apply no pressure when you have possession. Totally over hyped team, I can't see too many of these lads making the cut unfortunately.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on July 29, 2011, 09:11:20 PM
Spain have been hammering everyone though, not as if this was a once off. They'll destroy the Czechs in the final too. Whatever way you look at it, the Irish lads have reached the last four of Europe so they must be doing something right.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on July 29, 2011, 09:16:58 PM
Spain have been hammering everyone though, not as if this was a once off. They'll destroy the Czechs in the final too. Whatever way you look at it, the Irish lads have reached the last four of Europe so they must be doing something right.

Well said.
Too many lads always wanting to be negative about everything,fair play to them for getting so far.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: paco on July 29, 2011, 09:29:37 PM
A bad beating indeed, but the lads are young and-especially at this early stage of their careers-their confidence will be sapped and some may struggle more than others with such a margin of defeat at this stage of the competition. As has been said, this Spain team are a class above everyone else, and the most important thing is for the Irish management team is to encourage the players to keep their heads up and help develop the potential that seems to be there.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: stew on July 29, 2011, 10:19:42 PM
Spain have been hammering everyone though, not as if this was a once off. They'll destroy the Czechs in the final too. Whatever way you look at it, the Irish lads have reached the last four of Europe so they must be doing something right.

They just played one of the best U19's teams ever, they made the semi finals of a european competition and still some on here complain.

They will learn from this experience and they will get better, fair play to the lads who played their hearts out and got so far.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: From the Bunker on July 29, 2011, 11:01:48 PM
Spain have been hammering everyone though, not as if this was a once off. They'll destroy the Czechs in the final too. Whatever way you look at it, the Irish lads have reached the last four of Europe so they must be doing something right.

They just played one of the best U19's teams ever, they made the semi finals of a european competition and still some on here complain.

They will learn from this experience and they will get better, fair play to the lads who played their hearts out and got so far.

Ageed, Jez these lads get to the semi-finals of a European Competition and Get beat by a country that has some of the best soccer nurseries in the world.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 30, 2011, 08:47:28 PM
Any word on the qualifier draw lads?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: take_yer_points on July 30, 2011, 08:55:14 PM
Any word on the qualifier draw lads?

So far Sweden, Austria, Faroe Islands and Kazakhstan.

Pot A still to come
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on July 30, 2011, 09:10:11 PM
Any word on the qualifier draw lads?



Group F
 Portugal   
 Russia   
 Israel
 Northern Ireland   
 Azerbaijan   
 Luxembourg
                   

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 31, 2011, 12:16:13 AM
Why only four countries in Pot F?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: harlechman on September 02, 2011, 04:39:21 PM
Big game tonight against the Slovaks. Late injury to Shane Long means Kevin Doyle starts. A win tonight should seal second place and then head to Russia with alot of the pressure off. It won't be easy tonight though...it never is. Come on YBIG.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 02, 2011, 04:42:35 PM
Anyone going. Will there was 30k there?

I cannot see much excitement to be honest. At 10 pm this evening could we be looking back to the Dublin and Donegal match with nostalgia?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bingo on September 02, 2011, 04:47:00 PM
They were hoping for 40k? Not sure how they will do in the end.

Big game, puts them in a great position if they take the 3 points. Should be interesting and I'd not expect an open game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on September 02, 2011, 05:56:45 PM
Russia 1-0 Macedonia FT
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 02, 2011, 07:46:19 PM
That fair play is the biggest pile of shite going... Talk about cringeworthy stuff
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2011, 07:55:36 PM
That fair play is the biggest pile of shite going... Talk about cringeworthy stuff

 :-[ Ditto!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 02, 2011, 07:56:35 PM
Pipeband were awful too! I hate pipebands!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: cicfada on September 02, 2011, 08:22:50 PM
God this Irish team are useless, midfield is non existent! whelan and Andrews hopeless! Ward is doing a little better after a dodgy start!!Russians must have hard ons watching this display!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on September 02, 2011, 08:26:13 PM
Awful game so far the RTE camera men should focus more on the Slovakian women in the crowd.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2011, 08:39:26 PM
That's fair shite. I might put on the Sky + of the Dublin Donegal game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on September 02, 2011, 08:42:16 PM
No worries so far Slovakia are having their purple patch but haven't scored. We will have a period on top and will need to score when we are on top.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on September 02, 2011, 08:44:33 PM
God this Irish team are useless, midfield is non existent! whelan and Andrews hopeless! Ward is doing a little better after a dodgy start!!Russians must have hard ons watching this display!

We have a rubbish central midfield of two real journey men certainly bot international class.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 02, 2011, 08:47:05 PM
We need to win. Still a fair bit to go. Was always going to be a shite game, only unsure thing was who was going to score the only goal. Hopefully Ireland.
Come on the boys in green.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 02, 2011, 08:54:57 PM
Dunphy reckons the pair of boyos are statues in the middle of the park and he'd be 100% right.  They aren't completely at fault for this performance so far but they are a fair bit of it
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: cicfada on September 02, 2011, 08:59:28 PM
That's fair shite. I might put on the Sky + of the Dublin Donegal game.

there's a fella on AFR called Offaly who is putting on his recording  of Dub v Donegal as well! unreal coincidence!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 02, 2011, 09:27:56 PM
not lookingood
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on September 02, 2011, 09:29:50 PM
Anyone discovering that Whelan and Andrews are not international central midfielders must really have enjoyed that last shower they came down with.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 02, 2011, 09:32:40 PM
ref doing us no favours, also why wait for 6 mins to go to bring on hunt
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 02, 2011, 09:38:31 PM
Been rubbish in second half but Keane and Cox have still missed two great chances. Keane's especially was a sitter.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on September 02, 2011, 09:39:25 PM
Great clearance by Dunne.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 02, 2011, 09:40:27 PM
ref doing us no favours, also why wait for 6 mins to go to bring on hunt

Can't believe any manager would look at that shite for 90 minutes and only make 2 subs... And wait 64 minutes before making a change, at least a Junior B GAA manager would have taken off a corner forward....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Harold Disgracey on September 02, 2011, 09:43:53 PM
That was pure dung. Why wait so long to bring Hunt on?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on September 02, 2011, 09:45:40 PM
We should have won with those two great chances for Keane and Dunne in the last ten minutes. We are up chit creek without a paddle or Sean St Ledger going to Moscow.

Cox had a good chance too.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on September 02, 2011, 09:47:52 PM
McGeady is so frustrating. Hunt to start on tuesday hopefully.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: SHEEDY on September 02, 2011, 09:57:23 PM
hunt should have been on at least 10 mins earlier, mcgeady was obviously tiring. disappointing night, we need to get at least a draw in moscow. st ledger will be a big miss. think this ireland team is better equipped for getting results away from home, heres hoping.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on September 02, 2011, 09:58:11 PM
As it stands
Russia pts 16
Republic of Ireland pts 14
Slovakia pts 14

Remaining games
Slovakia: Armenia,Russia at home & Macedonia away
Russia: Andorra,ROI at home & Slovakia away
ROI: Armenia at home & Andorra,Russia away

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Ulick on September 02, 2011, 10:02:03 PM
Don't know that much about the form of those teams but Slovakia look to have the tougher run-in. So why was this being billed as a "must win".
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on September 02, 2011, 10:04:11 PM
Don't know that much about the form of those teams but Slovakia look to have the tougher run-in. So why was this being billed as a "must win".

In terms of qualifying automatically it probably was a must win tonight.
Playoffs as good as we can hope for now I reckon unless a miracle happens in Moscow
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on September 02, 2011, 10:36:51 PM
Don't know that much about the form of those teams but Slovakia look to have the tougher run-in. So why was this being billed as a "must win".

In terms of qualifying automatically it probably was a must win tonight.
Playoffs as good as we can hope for now I reckon unless a miracle happens in Moscow

Yeah, top spot is out of the question without winning in Russia, which is extremely unlikely given Ireland's away form in the last... well, for as long as I can remember. Need a draw in Russia for second spot too, which wouldn't have been necessary with a win tonight. Bad result, although the real damage was probably done in Slovakia when we had them on the rack and couldn't put them away.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on September 02, 2011, 11:35:53 PM
Don't know that much about the form of those teams but Slovakia look to have the tougher run-in. So why was this being billed as a "must win".

We lost against Russia at home. So we should lose the away game as well. We really needed a win tonight to ensure a playoff and the chance of topping the group. We are in trouble now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2011, 11:43:46 PM
Don't know that much about the form of those teams but Slovakia look to have the tougher run-in. So why was this being billed as a "must win".

In terms of qualifying automatically it probably was a must win tonight.
Playoffs as good as we can hope for now I reckon unless a miracle happens in Moscow

Yeah, top spot is out of the question without winning in Russia, which is extremely unlikely given Ireland's away form in the last... well, for as long as I can remember. Need a draw in Russia for second spot too, which wouldn't have been necessary with a win tonight. Bad result, although the real damage was probably done in Slovakia when we had them on the rack and couldn't put them away.

Familiar story.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 03, 2011, 12:19:08 AM
Sadly I was right in my earlier prediction.

The Pipe band were awful, Ireland were awful, in fact, everything was awful.

Can we sell McGeady off back to Scotland or Russia. He has never cut it at this level and never will.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: NetNitrate on September 03, 2011, 09:56:44 PM
As bad as the performance was, the Irish supporters showed themselves as nothing but a gang of gobshites to boo the team.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: The Worker on September 03, 2011, 10:03:12 PM
As bad as the performance was, the Irish supporters showed themselves as nothing but a gang of gobshites to boo the team.

were you at the game?

only a small minority booed
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Orangemac on September 03, 2011, 10:44:02 PM
hunt should have been on at least 10 mins earlier, mcgeady was obviously tiring. disappointing night, we need to get at least a draw in moscow. st ledger will be a big miss. think this ireland team is better equipped for getting results away from home, heres hoping.
Would agree on this last point. Team is better set up to play on the break, when they have to break a team down there is no creativity in midfiled. Hunt should definitely start.

Draw on Tuesday and wins from last 2 games should clinch 2nd. Don't think Slovakia will win all their games but given the lack of quality in a lot of positions it would hard to win a play off, maybe against the likes of Norway would be the best bet.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on September 04, 2011, 03:11:38 PM
O'Shea out of Russia game.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/0904/ireland_osheaj.html

 Another rookie full back or is McShane fit?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 04, 2011, 09:17:26 PM
O'Shea out of Russia game.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/0904/ireland_osheaj.html

 Another rookie full back or is McShane fit?

Christ, you're not serious about starting McShane! :o  :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: red hander on September 05, 2011, 06:15:30 PM
Sadly I was right in my earlier prediction.

The Pipe band were awful, Ireland were awful, in fact, everything was awful.

Can we sell McGeady off back to Scotland or Russia. He has never cut it at this level and never will.

Not everything was awful ... the large number of female Slovakian fans were lovely
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Blowitupref on September 05, 2011, 06:24:40 PM
Team to play Russia, Shay Given, Stephen Kelly, Richard Dunne, Darren O'Dea, Stephen Ward, Damien Duff, Glenn Whelan, Keith Andrews, Aidan McGeady, Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on September 05, 2011, 08:42:12 PM
Russia have been ropey enough since the match @ Lansdowne. But I'd tend to agree with LL, will be good going to get a draw, a win and 3 points would be unreal

Plus, cannot believe an international football match of this importance is allowed to be played on a plastic pitch. What next, playing with a half pumped ball?

'mon to feck Ireland!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on September 05, 2011, 09:27:46 PM
Russia were as useless as ourselves last Friday, so there's a bit of hope to cling onto in that. This is turning out to be a pretty shite group.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on September 05, 2011, 09:54:26 PM
glad the match is at 4pm. I feel like i have punished myself after i watch a match, i feel dirty.... its the same feeling i get after watching Fox news, reading O'Doherty or Myers. Just dont know why i put myself through it. First time in a while i'll be happy to be in work.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on September 06, 2011, 02:45:55 PM
If anyone has any good links for the match put them up please.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on September 06, 2011, 03:11:47 PM
It's live on rte.ie if you're in the Republic. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 06, 2011, 03:22:12 PM
Most of the posters here aren't Billy!

I think I'll listen in on the wireless. Beats a crappy stream and I wont have to look at Robbie Keane's histrionics.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Ulick on September 06, 2011, 03:23:54 PM
http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/

http://www.ilhansports.info/Channel%201.html

http://myp2p.bz/livesports.php
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on September 06, 2011, 03:34:00 PM
Aye Billy, a 6 counties man, cheers Ulick.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: HiMucker on September 06, 2011, 03:38:55 PM
Russia have been ropey enough since the match @ Lansdowne. But I'd tend to agree with LL, will be good going to get a draw, a win and 3 points would be unreal

Plus, cannot believe an international football match of this importance is allowed to be played on a plastic pitch. What next, playing with a half pumped ball?'mon to feck Ireland!
They will be well used to this sort of thing, Sure they trained on a car park in Saipan  :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on September 06, 2011, 03:54:32 PM
Russia have been ropey enough since the match @ Lansdowne. But I'd tend to agree with LL, will be good going to get a draw, a win and 3 points would be unreal

Plus, cannot believe an international football match of this importance is allowed to be played on a plastic pitch. What next, playing with a half pumped ball?'mon to feck Ireland!
They will be well used to this sort of thing, Sure they trained on a car park in Saipan  :D

KEANO KEANO KEANO!

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Ulick on September 06, 2011, 03:55:31 PM
RTE 2 feed here:

http://tykestv.eu/channel1.php

Just don't click on anything.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on September 06, 2011, 04:02:17 PM
It's live on rte.ie if you're in the Republic.

I have it cooking in the black north using a friends Sky Go logon...each sky customer can register 2 x devices. Everyone's a winner
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on September 06, 2011, 04:19:21 PM
Far too open. Only a matter of time before they score.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on September 06, 2011, 04:36:25 PM
RICHARD DUNNNNNEEE

With all this backs to the wall stuff an injured Robbie Keane is us like playing with 10 men
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 06, 2011, 04:36:51 PM
Some goal line stop
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Blowitupref on September 06, 2011, 04:37:00 PM
Great defending from Dunne.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Forever Green on September 06, 2011, 04:40:15 PM
I have plenty of respect for what Trap has done with the team but it is soul destroying watching this team and its complete lack of quality. Whelan and Andrews as our centre midfield, wtf is that all about. f**king get over yourself and get James McCarthy into the team. I will probably get slaughtered for this but when the team is fully fit, Robbie Keane should not be starting. Outstanding player in his day but has been woeful since his falling out with Harry Redknapp. Still think will get a result here match though as we are set up for away matches in every single game
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 06, 2011, 04:40:33 PM
How did he not put it in his own net, unreal. Brutal miss though
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on September 06, 2011, 04:44:04 PM
Getting to halftime without conceeding will be a huge achievement.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 06, 2011, 04:46:31 PM
Outstanding player in his day but has been woeful since his falling out with Harry Redknapp....

Surely the most costly night out in Copper's ever??
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ballinaman on September 06, 2011, 04:47:53 PM
Outstanding player in his day but has been woeful since his falling out with Harry Redknapp....

Surely the most costly night out in Copper's ever??
Dunno about that...sparks coming out of the wallet a few times there meself
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 06, 2011, 04:48:13 PM
Getting to halftime without conceeding will be a huge achievement.

They are blessed to be still at nil nil and offering absolutely nothing going forward.... playing 4-4-2 in this game is crazy, surely they need another in midfield or at the very least get rid of one of the two dummies in centre midfield
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on September 06, 2011, 04:49:35 PM
Hunt for Keane?

Got in level TG.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 06, 2011, 04:49:51 PM
Outstanding player in his day but has been woeful since his falling out with Harry Redknapp....

Surely the most costly night out in Copper's ever??
Dunno about that...sparks coming out of the wallet a few times there meself

Same as myself and woke up with a couple of things the next morning - the easiest of which to deal with was a hangover but it hasn't as yet fucked up my career!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on September 06, 2011, 04:51:50 PM
Outstanding player in his day but has been woeful since his falling out with Harry Redknapp....

Surely the most costly night out in Copper's ever??
Dunno about that...sparks coming out of the wallet a few times there meself

brilliant...I spent a fair wedge in it one night trying to curt a hen from Offlay with a great hole but fierce bad teeth

keep the Russians out and hopefully someone scores a wonder goal out of the blue
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ballinaman on September 06, 2011, 04:53:33 PM
Outstanding player in his day but has been woeful since his falling out with Harry Redknapp....

Surely the most costly night out in Copper's ever??
Dunno about that...sparks coming out of the wallet a few times there meself

brilliant...I spent a fair wedge in it one night trying to curt a hen from Offlay with a great hole but fierce bad teeth

keep the Russians out and hopefully someone scores a wonder goal out of the blue
:D
Hunt for Keane
McCarthy for Whelan....earn your money Trap
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: screenexile on September 06, 2011, 04:58:34 PM
I have plenty of respect for what Trap has done with the team but it is soul destroying watching this team and its complete lack of quality. Whelan and Andrews as our centre midfield, wtf is that all about. f**king get over yourself and get James McCarthy into the team. I will probably get slaughtered for this but when the team is fully fit, Robbie Keane should not be starting. Outstanding player in his day but has been woeful since his falling out with Harry Redknapp. Still think will get a result here match though as we are set up for away matches in every single game

"AREEEEEE YOU JIM McGUINNESS IN DISGUISE!!!"
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Minder on September 06, 2011, 05:00:32 PM
I have plenty of respect for what Trap has done with the team but it is soul destroying watching this team and its complete lack of quality. Whelan and Andrews as our centre midfield, wtf is that all about. f**king get over yourself and get James McCarthy into the team. I will probably get slaughtered for this but when the team is fully fit, Robbie Keane should not be starting. Outstanding player in his day but has been woeful since his falling out with Harry Redknapp. Still think will get a result here match though as we are set up for away matches in every single game

It's hardly Trapps fault the players are shite. It's not as if there are a pile of superstars that he isn't starting.

"AREEEEEE YOU JIM McGUINNESS IN DISGUISE!!!"
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on September 06, 2011, 05:14:31 PM
Nobody told me this game was on at four o clock in the afternoon.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Blowitupref on September 06, 2011, 05:16:34 PM
Dunne playing like Paul McGrath in his prime.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on September 06, 2011, 05:20:40 PM
Outstanding player in his day but has been woeful since his falling out with Harry Redknapp....

Surely the most costly night out in Copper's ever??
Dunno about that...sparks coming out of the wallet a few times there meself

brilliant...I spent a fair wedge in it one night trying to curt a hen from Offlay with a great hole but fierce bad teeth

keep the Russians out and hopefully someone scores a wonder goal out of the blue

Housemate of mine had a bird from Tullamore he met in Coppers with same discription. He was gone into Harcourt st one week night and pulled another yoke, Tullamore came back to our gaff and waited for him in his room, no door key to house so everyone knew just to hop in front window. She kept coming into me asking where he was.....well, eventually I got to see her gnashers close up.  :-X
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 06, 2011, 05:21:38 PM
Unlucky not to be ahead here...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: screenexile on September 06, 2011, 05:23:26 PM
I have plenty of respect for what Trap has done with the team but it is soul destroying watching this team and its complete lack of quality. Whelan and Andrews as our centre midfield, wtf is that all about. f**king get over yourself and get James McCarthy into the team. I will probably get slaughtered for this but when the team is fully fit, Robbie Keane should not be starting. Outstanding player in his day but has been woeful since his falling out with Harry Redknapp. Still think will get a result here match though as we are set up for away matches in every single game

It's hardly Trapps fault the players are shite. It's not as if there are a pile of superstars that he isn't starting.

"AREEEEEE YOU JIM McGUINNESS IN DISGUISE!!!"

It's only a joke . . . Jim McGuinness was in the same boat as Traoo and did the same thing. I am not getting at anyone.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on September 06, 2011, 05:24:28 PM
This is excruciating. Dunne is putting in one of the best displays I've seen in an Ireland jersey. Ward is putting in one of the worst.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Minder on September 06, 2011, 05:27:31 PM
I have plenty of respect for what Trap has done with the team but it is soul destroying watching this team and its complete lack of quality. Whelan and Andrews as our centre midfield, wtf is that all about. f**king get over yourself and get James McCarthy into the team. I will probably get slaughtered for this but when the team is fully fit, Robbie Keane should not be starting. Outstanding player in his day but has been woeful since his falling out with Harry Redknapp. Still think will get a result here match though as we are set up for away matches in every single game

It's hardly Trapps fault the players are shite. It's not as if there are a pile of superstars that he isn't starting.

"AREEEEEE YOU JIM McGUINNESS IN DISGUISE!!!"

It's only a joke . . . Jim McGuinness was in the same boat as Traoo and did the same thing. I am not
getting at anyone.

Sorry my post was aimed at Forever Green.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on September 06, 2011, 05:38:19 PM
Roy keane is going to love this. Using a marker to write a number on a jersey
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 06, 2011, 05:39:07 PM
FAI need bigger markers  :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on September 06, 2011, 05:45:26 PM
This is going well now. A little over 5 minutes to go.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on September 06, 2011, 05:50:59 PM
What a save by Given. ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ONeill on September 06, 2011, 05:51:50 PM
Dunne should kick the lining out of McGeady after this.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BennyHarp on September 06, 2011, 05:52:53 PM
McGeedy is a fecking liability!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on September 06, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
Thank you Aston Villa.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Blowitupref on September 06, 2011, 05:54:15 PM
Played for a draw & some how got it. Still a glimmer of hope for a play off spot.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 06, 2011, 05:55:08 PM
McGeady must be loved over there with passes like that
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 06, 2011, 05:57:38 PM
The most one sided 0-0 I've ever seen but a very important point. Ireland should take 6 points from their last two games so a lot depends on the Slovakia v Russia game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on September 06, 2011, 06:00:44 PM
That was unbelievable. Richard Dunne is a hero. Russians must feel sick.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: paco on September 06, 2011, 06:02:14 PM
Russia had 26 shots :O
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 06, 2011, 06:05:55 PM
We were robbed.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on September 06, 2011, 06:23:47 PM
I think if we win our two games and we should we might get the playoff. The Russians must be sick they had the group almist wrapped up if they got a goal and won. Now they will have a big game away against the Slivaks.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on September 06, 2011, 06:29:50 PM
Had to make do with listening to it on the wireless but it sounded like we got out of jail.
Sounded like the defense were immense as well.
Great to come out of it with a point,is that 6 clean sheets in a row now? Some going in fairness.

 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: SHEEDY on September 06, 2011, 06:32:35 PM
what a display by dunne and given. dont know how they didnt score. what a massive point that might prove to be.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on September 06, 2011, 06:37:16 PM
Had to make do with listening to it on the wireless but it sounded like we got out of jail.
Sounded like the defense were immense as well.
Great to come out of it with a point,is that 6 clean sheets in a row now? Some going in fairness.
7 I think
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: From the Bunker on September 06, 2011, 06:38:55 PM
Have been years hearing about Gaelic football, Hurling and Rugby being mans games (and in most cases rightly so). But Richie Dunne surely added soccer with that display today!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ONeill on September 06, 2011, 06:42:09 PM
Dunne even headbutted the Russian track. What a beast.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Armaghgael on September 06, 2011, 06:45:13 PM
I backed a draw at h/t& f/t ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Blowitupref on September 06, 2011, 06:51:17 PM
http://greenscene.me/2011/09/euro-2012-group-b-qualifying-permutations/
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on September 06, 2011, 06:56:56 PM
Excellent work on that link ross4life,I was trying to figure out all the permutations myself.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Blowitupref on September 06, 2011, 07:07:26 PM
Excellent work on that link ross4life,I was trying to figure out all the permutations myself.
???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: 13aside on September 06, 2011, 07:26:26 PM
a couple of years ago one of those so called experts on the rte panel lampooned Richard Dunne and made a laughing stock out of the fella-the words short and memory come to mind !!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on September 06, 2011, 07:32:26 PM
The words gob and shites come to my mind.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: anportmorforjfc on September 06, 2011, 08:33:31 PM
Armenia 1-0 up in Slovakia 58mins gone.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 06, 2011, 08:34:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quwtntxz8fA



Bloody hell
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on September 06, 2011, 08:38:12 PM
Armenia 1-0 up in Slovakia 58mins gone.

Yeah watching it here myself.

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/5639/1/slovakia-vs-armenia.html
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Dubh driocht on September 06, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
After seeing Shay's heroics, no-one should ever ever ever again say a word about Donegal's defensive strategy.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on September 06, 2011, 08:44:10 PM
a couple of years ago one of those so called experts on the rte panel lampooned Richard Dunne and made a laughing stock out of the fella-the words short and memory come to mind !!

Would it have been the same rent a quote merchant that was eugogising Dunne in the studio afterwards ?

Excellent work on that link ross4life,I was trying to figure out all the permutations myself.

 :D :D thought the same myself when he first started posting with his love for all things Ross.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on September 06, 2011, 08:44:55 PM
2-0 to Armenia !!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: anportmorforjfc on September 06, 2011, 08:45:49 PM
2-0 to Armenia !!

What a draw that could turn out to be for us today.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Blowitupref on September 06, 2011, 08:48:03 PM
Armenia could finish ahead of us yet.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on September 06, 2011, 08:51:42 PM
Overall I think itcis better that Armenia win and we get a second chance at sorting this thing out for ourselves.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Dubh driocht on September 06, 2011, 08:52:23 PM
Greenscene didn't consider an Armenia win ( which looks likely) but even a draw in thay game means that if Ireland win their last two games , the least they get is a play-off. Well done Trap!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on September 06, 2011, 08:53:02 PM
http://greenscene.me/2011/09/euro-2012-group-b-qualifying-permutations/

Not one of those permutations had a scenario for Armenia beating Slovakia !
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on September 06, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
If this holds up, then it's a great result. I could see Slovakia beating Russia at home, which would mean 2 Irish wins would win the group!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on September 06, 2011, 08:55:41 PM
0-3 now !!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: balladmaker on September 06, 2011, 08:55:51 PM
2 Irish wins back to back ... you don't ask for much
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Blowitupref on September 06, 2011, 08:56:15 PM
http://greenscene.me/2011/09/euro-2012-group-b-qualifying-permutations/

Not one of those permutations had a scenario for Armenia beating Slovakia !
Don't blame me blame Ross4life.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on September 06, 2011, 08:56:34 PM
It's possible though. Andorra and Armenia.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on September 06, 2011, 08:58:08 PM
We play Armenia at home and Andorra away so all in our own hands. Are Armenia the new Brazil ?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on September 06, 2011, 08:59:28 PM
We play Armenia at home and Andorra away so all in our own hands. Are Armenia the new Brazil ?

Nah. Tonight's their All Ireland.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on September 06, 2011, 09:03:00 PM
3-0 to Armenia. What happened to the Slovaks?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on September 06, 2011, 09:03:17 PM
0-3 now !!!

Robbie Keane must have brought the Slovaks to Copper Face Jacks after the game the other night.
Still hungover...

Looked like Pavlyuchenko was asking Robbie Keane at final whistle earlier if he fancied a run at a few Russian chicks afterwards. Our captain kept shaking his head saying that he had t make it back to The Plazza.

We play Armenia at home and Andorra away so all in our own hands. Are Armenia the new Brazil ?

Nah. Tonight's their All Ireland.

Hurling or football ?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 06, 2011, 09:04:03 PM
Great result for Ireland either way as it removes the possibility of a 3 way tie. If Ireland win their final two games now there is even a chance they could top the group if the Slovaks beat Russia at home which is very possible.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on September 06, 2011, 09:04:27 PM
0-3 now !!!

Robbie Keane must have brought the Slovaks to Copper Face Jacks after the game the other night.
Still hungover...

Looked like Pavlyuchenko was asking Robbie Keane at final whistle earlier if he fancied a run at a few Russian chicks afterwards. Our captain kept shaking his head saying that he had t make it back to The Plazza.

We play Armenia at home and Andorra away so all in our own hands. Are Armenia the new Brazil ?

Nah. Tonight's their All Ireland.

Hurling or football ?

They've scored 3 goals, can't be football. Although Slovakia are no Donegal.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 06, 2011, 09:07:35 PM
4-0 Armenia now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 06, 2011, 09:11:01 PM
How does qualification work? 16 teams qualify, 8 groups top 8, all the 2nds is 8 aswell why is there play offs? Is there best runners up?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: trileacman on September 06, 2011, 09:11:31 PM
Aertel sports heading:    Republic survive Republic Torpedo's.     :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 06, 2011, 09:12:07 PM
The Armenians are 4 up now. Magnificent news from Bratislava. I think Wales might have given them a similarly spanking in the the Euro 2008 qualifiers.

The key match now is Slovakia v Russia. We'll presume Ireland beat Andorra that night.

If Russia win or draw - a point at home to Armenia will secure a play off berth

If Slovakia beat Russia - two Ireland victories would put them top of the group and therefore through automatically.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on September 06, 2011, 09:13:59 PM
How does qualification work? 16 teams qualify, 8 groups top 8, all the 2nds is 8 aswell why is there play offs? Is there best runners up?

Host nations take 2 of the spots, so there must be some class of playoff type thing.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 06, 2011, 09:17:09 PM
How does qualification work? 16 teams qualify, 8 groups top 8, all the 2nds is 8 aswell why is there play offs? Is there best runners up?

Host nations take 2 of the spots, so there must be some class of playoff type thing.

16 qualifiers

2 hosts
9 group winners
1 best placed 2nd tea,
4 play off winners
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ONeill on September 06, 2011, 09:18:01 PM
Armenia back in the running now and the last game between them and Ireland will have a lot hanging on it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on September 06, 2011, 09:19:24 PM
Anyone watching England Wales? Rob Earnshaw just missed an absolute sitter :) 1-0 to England, 77 mins.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 06, 2011, 09:22:03 PM
How does qualification work? 16 teams qualify, 8 groups top 8, all the 2nds is 8 aswell why is there play offs? Is there best runners up?

Host nations take 2 of the spots, so there must be some class of playoff type thing.

16 qualifiers

2 hosts
9 group winners
1 best placed 2nd tea,
4 play off winners
Cheers tacadoir and AZ, was thinking there was a best placed runner up, Jees armenia ireland will be a humdinger if the slovaks beat russia,

The Slovakia V Russia game kicks off at 20.15 and our game against Andorra kicks off at 21.30 hope to watch both.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: INDIANA on September 06, 2011, 09:26:09 PM
The Armenians are 4 up now. Magnificent news from Bratislava. I think Wales might have given them a similarly spanking in the the Euro 2008 qualifiers.

The key match now is Slovakia v Russia. We'll presume Ireland beat Andorra that night.

If Russia win or draw - a point at home to Armenia will secure a play off berth

If Slovakia beat Russia - two Ireland victories would put them top of the group and therefore through automatically.

Is anyone seriously suggesting slovakia will beat russia when russia only need a draw against them. Slovakia are a s*** team.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on September 06, 2011, 09:27:41 PM
Funny things happen in those qualifiers Indiana. Especially when Slovakia are at home. Russia are no great shakes either.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on September 06, 2011, 09:29:39 PM
Holy jaysus I'm nearly after dropping the laptop after seeing Slovakia Armenia score line
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 06, 2011, 09:31:01 PM
The Armenians are 4 up now. Magnificent news from Bratislava. I think Wales might have given them a similarly spanking in the the Euro 2008 qualifiers.

The key match now is Slovakia v Russia. We'll presume Ireland beat Andorra that night.

If Russia win or draw - a point at home to Armenia will secure a play off berth

If Slovakia beat Russia - two Ireland victories would put them top of the group and therefore through automatically.

Is anyone seriously suggesting slovakia will beat russia when russia only need a draw against them. Slovakia are a s*** team.

Slovakia beat them in Moscow and deservedly so. Russia are not the same side on their travels and the Eastern European countries tend to raise their game against them. Slovaks obviously had a bit of a nightmare tonight but they are a much better side than that. To be honest we probably made the Russians look better than they actually are today.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 06, 2011, 09:31:24 PM
The Armenians are 4 up now. Magnificent news from Bratislava. I think Wales might have given them a similarly spanking in the the Euro 2008 qualifiers.

The key match now is Slovakia v Russia. We'll presume Ireland beat Andorra that night.

If Russia win or draw - a point at home to Armenia will secure a play off berth

If Slovakia beat Russia - two Ireland victories would put them top of the group and therefore through automatically.

Is anyone seriously suggesting slovakia will beat russia when russia only need a draw against them. Slovakia are a s*** team.

Slovakia beat them in Russia so its not inconceivable that they could provide a shock at home, particularly given that their playoff hopes depend on it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on September 06, 2011, 09:32:16 PM
The Armenians are 4 up now. Magnificent news from Bratislava. I think Wales might have given them a similarly spanking in the the Euro 2008 qualifiers.

The key match now is Slovakia v Russia. We'll presume Ireland beat Andorra that night.

If Russia win or draw - a point at home to Armenia will secure a play off berth

If Slovakia beat Russia - two Ireland victories would put them top of the group and therefore through automatically.

Is anyone seriously suggesting slovakia will beat russia when russia only need a draw against them. Slovakia are a s*** team.

7th Sept, 2010 Russia 0-1 Slovakia
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: cicfada on September 06, 2011, 09:33:06 PM
Is Dunne out of the Armenia match with a  yellow card?? Big loss if he is!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 06, 2011, 09:33:36 PM
Is Dunne out of the Armenia match with a  yellow card?? Big loss if he is!

No, he misses the trip to Andorra
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ONeill on September 06, 2011, 09:34:34 PM
Little Liechtentein had 11 Richard Dunnes tonight for the first half an hour against Spain. One down now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 06, 2011, 09:36:47 PM
Is Dunne out of the Armenia match with a  yellow card?? Big loss if he is!
no the andorra game, which knowing Ireland will be no cake walk
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: INDIANA on September 06, 2011, 09:37:30 PM
The Armenians are 4 up now. Magnificent news from Bratislava. I think Wales might have given them a similarly spanking in the the Euro 2008 qualifiers.

The key match now is Slovakia v Russia. We'll presume Ireland beat Andorra that night.

If Russia win or draw - a point at home to Armenia will secure a play off berth

If Slovakia beat Russia - two Ireland victories would put them top of the group and therefore through automatically.

Is anyone seriously suggesting slovakia will beat russia when russia only need a draw against them. Slovakia are a s*** team.

7th Sept, 2010 Russia 0-1 Slovakia

Dont see it myself. I'd be more worried about the armenians doing us at home considering our inability to score. I'd take 0-0 against armenia now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on September 06, 2011, 09:58:15 PM
The Armenians are 4 up now. Magnificent news from Bratislava. I think Wales might have given them a similarly spanking in the the Euro 2008 qualifiers.

The key match now is Slovakia v Russia. We'll presume Ireland beat Andorra that night.

If Russia win or draw - a point at home to Armenia will secure a play off berth

If Slovakia beat Russia - two Ireland victories would put them top of the group and therefore through automatically.

Is anyone seriously suggesting slovakia will beat russia when russia only need a draw against them. Slovakia are a s*** team.

7th Sept, 2010 Russia 0-1 Slovakia

Dont see it myself. I'd be more worried about the armenians doing us at home considering our inability to score. I'd take 0-0 against armenia now.

Slovakia Russia match on 7th October, day we play Andorra away. Our match with Armenia on 11th October so required result for that match will be a lot clearer at that stage. More than likely will need the 2 wins regardless so would be crazy to take the draw IMO.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: From the Bunker on September 06, 2011, 10:10:57 PM
Once again we are in a mad group where we could end up Winning the group or finishing 4th........Crazy! Still it's a great place to be in, having alot of the outcomes in our own hands. Andorra being our second last game sets us up nicely! If we go ahead early, (the more important) players can (hopefully) be rested for the Armenia game 4 days later.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: under the bar on September 06, 2011, 10:26:35 PM
Was it armenia that beat russia?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on September 06, 2011, 10:30:32 PM
Was it armenia that beat russia?

Slovakia in Russia.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: From the Bunker on September 06, 2011, 10:33:31 PM
Was it armenia that beat russia?

 ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on September 06, 2011, 10:38:56 PM
The Armenians are 4 up now. Magnificent news from Bratislava. I think Wales might have given them a similarly spanking in the the Euro 2008 qualifiers.

The key match now is Slovakia v Russia. We'll presume Ireland beat Andorra that night.

If Russia win or draw - a point at home to Armenia will secure a play off berth

If Slovakia beat Russia - two Ireland victories would put them top of the group and therefore through automatically.

Is anyone seriously suggesting slovakia will beat russia when russia only need a draw against them. Slovakia are a s*** team.

7th Sept, 2010 Russia 0-1 Slovakia

Dont see it myself. I'd be more worried about the armenians doing us at home considering our inability to score. I'd take 0-0 against armenia now.

You don't see why anybody might think Slovakia can beat Russia at home? Perhaps you don't see why anybody might have a considered opinion that is different to your own. Tonight Slovakia were knackered after 30 minutes and clearly ran out of all steam. The match was played at breakneck speed up until then. Did you watch the game?  The Armenians are a fit and lively bunch, the Slovaks must have been still feeling the effects after celebrating their game in Dublin and going c**k a hoop at thoughts of winning the group.
But anything can happen in the Slovaks game against Russia.
I´d fancy our chances to get the result we need against Armenia. Pressure will tell in the last game and I think we can handle that a bit better against the new kids on the block.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: From the Bunker on September 06, 2011, 10:44:17 PM
The Armenians are 4 up now. Magnificent news from Bratislava. I think Wales might have given them a similarly spanking in the the Euro 2008 qualifiers.

The key match now is Slovakia v Russia. We'll presume Ireland beat Andorra that night.

If Russia win or draw - a point at home to Armenia will secure a play off berth

If Slovakia beat Russia - two Ireland victories would put them top of the group and therefore through automatically.

Is anyone seriously suggesting slovakia will beat russia when russia only need a draw against them. Slovakia are a s*** team.

7th Sept, 2010 Russia 0-1 Slovakia

Dont see it myself. I'd be more worried about the armenians doing us at home considering our inability to score. I'd take 0-0 against armenia now.

You don't see why anybody might think Slovakia can beat Russia at home? Perhaps you don't see why anybody might have a considered opinion that is different to your own. Tonight Slovakia were knackered after 30 minutes and clearly ran out of all steam. The match was played at breakneck speed up until then. Did you watch the game?  The Armenians are a fit and lively bunch, the Slovaks must have been still feeling the effects after celebrating their game in Dublin and going c**k a hoop at thoughts of winning the group.
But anything can happen in the Slovaks game against Russia.
I´d fancy our chances to get the result we need against Armenia. Pressure will tell in the last game and I think we can handle that a bit better against the new kids on the block.


All we can do really is look at our own situation! As i said earlier, freshness will be important in the Armenia game, so the earlier we can score against Andorra (4 days earlier), close out the game and rest players, the better.


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: stew on September 06, 2011, 10:51:25 PM
Great result especially considering the players Ireland were missing om the night.

Hope i am wrong but I can see us snatching defeat from the hands of victory and us finishing third with two goalless draws.

If Russia lose, and that is a distinct possibility we win the group with two wins, problem is, we cant create enough chances to score enough.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Leo on September 06, 2011, 11:56:37 PM
After seeing Shay's heroics, no-one should ever ever ever again say a word about Donegal's defensive strategy.

Our best player couldn't cut it at Man City - that goes for Dunne & Given both.

Nobody wanted our captain Keane.

Journeyman Andrews is now in Champonship. His pal Whelan is a Stoke bit player.

Kelly doesnt make Fulham first team.

McGeady couldnt cut it at Celtic.

Duff is a shadow of (old) Duff.

When you look at our resources, Trapp is a miracle worker.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on September 07, 2011, 12:42:13 AM
We will surely beat the Armenians at home, that was a freak result tonight. An amazing result in fact, one of the biggest upsets I have seen in sports.

I didn't see the first half of the game today, but I don't think Russia had a tonne of brilliant chances. They had the header near the end and the one Dunne cleared off the line that should both have been scored and half a dozen other half chances. They didn't tare us apart, they played well but not well enough in the final third of the field.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Orangemac on September 07, 2011, 12:51:43 AM
The Armenians are 4 up now. Magnificent news from Bratislava. I think Wales might have given them a similarly spanking in the the Euro 2008 qualifiers.

The key match now is Slovakia v Russia. We'll presume Ireland beat Andorra that night.

If Russia win or draw - a point at home to Armenia will secure a play off berth

If Slovakia beat Russia - two Ireland victories would put them top of the group and therefore through automatically.

Is anyone seriously suggesting slovakia will beat russia when russia only need a draw against them. Slovakia are a s*** team.

7th Sept, 2010 Russia 0-1 Slovakia

Dont see it myself. I'd be more worried about the armenians doing us at home considering our inability to score. I'd take 0-0 against armenia now.
Would agree that Armenia will be a big threat, top scorers in the group and seem to have a lot of pace about them. If Ireland cannot take 6 points from these games they don't deserve to go through.

Trap may have to be a bit bolder than he has up to now. Andorra should be beatable even with the curent system but Hunt needs to come into the team and McCarthy maybe given a chance in midfield. The Whelan/Andrews axis offers nothing going forward.
 I know Trap will not try this but could Duff be moved into the centre the way Giggs was. He is the best passer in the team and Hunt could come in for him.

What happens if 3 or even 4 teams have the same points? Is it goal diff or head to head? Either way it would not be good for Ireland.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on September 07, 2011, 12:57:01 AM
We will surely beat the Armenians at home, that was a freak result tonight. An amazing result in fact, one of the biggest upsets I have seen in sports.

Steady on now. Armenia had already beaten Slovakia in the group. A surprising scoreline, but the result shouldn't have been that much of a shock.

I didn't see the first half of the game today, but I don't think Russia had a tonne of brilliant chances. They had the header near the end and the one Dunne cleared off the line that should both have been scored and half a dozen other half chances. They didn't tare us apart, they played well but not well enough in the final third of the field.

Copious amount of sugar coating there. Russia had enough good chances to win three games.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on September 07, 2011, 01:19:11 AM


What happens if 3 or even 4 teams have the same points? Is it goal diff or head to head? Either way it would not be good for Ireland.
If Russia, Slovakia and Ireland finish level on points it goes into a 3 way mini group on the matches played which would eliminate Ireland as only have 3 points from 3 draws against these 2.

If Russia, Armenia and Ireland finish level Russia would top group and Ireland second as long as we draw or beat Armenia at home.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on September 07, 2011, 02:14:40 AM


What happens if 3 or even 4 teams have the same points? Is it goal diff or head to head? Either way it would not be good for Ireland.
If Russia, Slovakia and Ireland finish level on points it goes into a 3 way mini group on the matches played which would eliminate Ireland as only have 3 points from 3 draws against these 2.

If Russia, Armenia and Ireland finish level Russia would top group and Ireland second as long as we draw or beat Armenia at home.

Don't think a 3 way tie involving both Russia and Ireland is likely after tonight.

Russia will win their home game against Andorra, so, depending on their result against Slovakia, they'll finish on either 20, 21 or 23 points.

23 = no one will tie with them
21 = only Ireland can tie with them
20 = Slovakia and Armenia can tie with them, but not Ireland as it's impossible to go from 15 points to 20 in two games

I reckon the only 3 way tie Ireland are remotely likely to find themselves in is with Armenia and Slovakia on 18 points. Armenia would pip us to second spot if this came to pass.

My head hurts.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: spuds on September 07, 2011, 02:42:48 AM


What happens if 3 or even 4 teams have the same points? Is it goal diff or head to head? Either way it would not be good for Ireland.
If Russia, Slovakia and Ireland finish level on points it goes into a 3 way mini group on the matches played which would eliminate Ireland as only have 3 points from 3 draws against these 2.

If Russia, Armenia and Ireland finish level Russia would top group and Ireland second as long as we draw or beat Armenia at home.

Don't think a 3 way tie involving both Russia and Ireland is likely after tonight.

Russia will win their home game against Andorra, so, depending on their result against Slovakia, they'll finish on either 20, 21 or 23 points.

23 = no one will tie with them
21 = only Ireland can tie with them
20 = Slovakia and Armenia can tie with them, but not Ireland as it's impossible to go from 15 points to 20 in two games

I reckon the only 3 way tie Ireland are remotely likely to find themselves in is with Armenia and Slovakia on 18 points. Armenia would pip us to second spot if this came to pass.

My head hurts.

True, well read AFS, but if Ireland, Armenia and Slovakia finish level on points Slovakia finish bottom and anything better than a 0-1 win for Armenia against us gets them through on the head to head. Or will their greater goal difference as stands presently get them through anyway ?
If we go to town scoring against Andorra maybe a 0-1 loss will do against Armenia in that situation.  :P

If we beat Armenia and lose to Andorra we get through to qualifier on getting 18 points that way.  :D

If Slovakia beat Russia and Russia only draw with Andorra then it could end up with 4 teams on 18 points.  :o

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: HiMucker on September 07, 2011, 01:58:43 PM
Russia have been ropey enough since the match @ Lansdowne. But I'd tend to agree with LL, will be good going to get a draw, a win and 3 points would be unreal

Plus, cannot believe an international football match of this importance is allowed to be played on a plastic pitch. What next, playing with a half pumped ball?'mon to feck Ireland!
They will be well used to this sort of thing, Sure they trained on a car park in Saipan  :D
Here I wasnt far wrong!  "I dont care that I am on £50K a week and have to look the superstar part.  Heres a marker! Now get that number 5 drawn on my back so I can get out there and kick the legs of these commy bast**ds or Im going to plug ye"
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: stibhan on September 07, 2011, 03:46:23 PM
'McGeady couldn't cut it at Celtic'

I suppose that's how they sold him for a records fee ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Orangemac on September 07, 2011, 09:14:04 PM
Have a good feeling Traps luck will hold, Slovakia badly stung will beat Russia and Ireland will win last 2 games to win group.

A turgid 180 minutes against Greece or Bosnia in a play off doesn't bear thiniking about :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: bamboo on October 03, 2011, 06:02:52 PM
Anyone hear anything about any special arrangements being put in place for the fans on Friday?

After the game was moved back to Andorra, Delaney had mentioned trying to set up a "fanzone" for those that had already booked  the trip to Barcelona. Had a quick look at the FAI website and cant see anything.

Gonna be  a tough weekend over there, game does'nt finish until almost midnight local time and then have to be back up for the rugby at 7am! And our flight from Stanstead is 7am friday morning!!

Sleep will be at a premium me thinks.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 07, 2011, 04:46:24 PM
Armenia 2-0 approaching half time. Cat and pigeons.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 07, 2011, 04:52:51 PM
Watching the Irish soccer team is worse than sitting through ten episodes of Eastenders played backwards---ROLL ON 6AM!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 07, 2011, 04:54:27 PM
Watching the Irish soccer team is worse than sitting through ten episodes of Eastenders played backwards

So don't watch it then  ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Doogie Browser on October 07, 2011, 04:57:08 PM
Have backed Keane & Doyle first goal tonight and 4-0, 16/1 & 18/1. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Boycey on October 07, 2011, 05:00:12 PM
Watching the Irish soccer team is worse than sitting through ten episodes of Eastenders played backwards

So don't watch it then  ::)
you're fierce patriotic LL, any negativity over anything Irish has ya bristling with indignation..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 07, 2011, 05:00:36 PM
Watching the Irish soccer team is worse than sitting through ten episodes of Eastenders played backwards---ROLL ON 6AM!!!
It's not fair. The soccer boys need a more inspiring anthem to get them up for it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 07, 2011, 05:02:22 PM
Watching the Irish soccer team is worse than sitting through ten episodes of Eastenders played backwards

So don't watch it then  ::)
you're fierce patriotic LL, any negativity over anything Irish has ya bristling with indignation..

Not really true,you could say what ya like about Irish rugby and I wouldn't care  :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 07, 2011, 05:26:01 PM
Watching the Irish soccer team is worse than sitting through ten episodes of Eastenders played backwards

So don't watch it then  ::)
you're fierce patriotic LL, any negativity over anything Irish has ya bristling with indignation..

Not really true,you could say what ya like about Irish rugby and I wouldn't care   :)
I'd be fairly sure that if O'Brien or Ferris suggested to you LL that soccer is shite, you'd agree!!! Lighten up good ladeen
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 07, 2011, 05:30:16 PM
Watching the Irish soccer team is worse than sitting through ten episodes of Eastenders played backwards

So don't watch it then  ::)
you're fierce patriotic LL, any negativity over anything Irish has ya bristling with indignation..

Not really true,you could say what ya like about Irish rugby and I wouldn't care   :)
I'd be fairly sure that if O'Brien or Ferris suggested to you LL that soccer is shite, you'd agree!!! Lighten up good ladeen

Who are they?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 07, 2011, 06:05:26 PM
Just seen the state of the ground Ireland have to play in tonight !
I'd safely say I have played in bigger places with a better pitch and facilities.
It's a disgrace really that this isn't being played in the stadium beside the Camp Nou.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 07, 2011, 06:15:45 PM
Just seen the state of the ground Ireland have to play in tonight !
I'd safely say I have played in bigger places with a better pitch and facilities.
It's a disgrace really that this isn't being played in the stadium beside the Camp Nou.
Camp Auld!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 07, 2011, 06:53:55 PM
Armenia on a roll now & will fancy their chances of winning in Dublin. Slovakia are without Hamsik tonight a bad blow as we need them to win.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 07, 2011, 06:55:28 PM
Armenia on a roll now & will fancy their chances of winning in Dublin. Slovakia are without Hamsik tonight a bad blow as we need them to win.

Providing we win tonight,I actually am very worried about the Armenia game.
It's gonna be a tough battle against them.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 07, 2011, 06:59:45 PM
Armenia on a roll now & will fancy their chances of winning in Dublin. Slovakia are without Hamsik tonight a bad blow as we need them to win.

Providing we win tonight,I actually am very worried about the Armenia game.
It's gonna be a tough battle against them.
Dunne back for Armenia is a plus, lack of goals is also a worry but i am expecting a few goals tonight that might bring confidence for Tuesday.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 07, 2011, 08:09:07 PM
Armenia on a roll now & will fancy their chances of winning in Dublin. Slovakia are without Hamsik tonight a bad blow as we need them to win.

Providing we win tonight,I actually am very worried about the Armenia game.
It's gonna be a tough battle against them.
Dunne back for Armenia is a plus, lack of goals is also a worry but i am expecting a few goals tonight that might bring confidence for Tuesday.
Jeez we're fucked=Ithought he played for Ireland!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Agent Orange on October 07, 2011, 08:45:58 PM
What happened to "The Workers" post telling us to put the house on Robbie Keane as first scorer @ 5/2???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: dec on October 07, 2011, 08:55:20 PM
Russia 1-0 up
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ONeill on October 07, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
Not much to Andorra.

The ref is an unusual boyo. He enjoys his advantage. It's a bit like rugby; he'll let the play run for a while before blowing for the original foul.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 07, 2011, 09:09:52 PM
Russia win so realistically best we can do is a playoff spot.
Russia have Andorra last game so it's a given they will win that.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: EC Unique on October 07, 2011, 09:15:26 PM
What other teams are likely to be in the play off draw?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 07, 2011, 09:16:08 PM
Even against Andorra John O'Shea looks shite.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on October 07, 2011, 09:19:03 PM
It's set up for a horrible last game now. Trap will know a draw will do against Armenia. What's the betting he sends them out to play for a draw and we end up watching through our fingers?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on October 07, 2011, 09:19:38 PM
 
What other teams are likely to be in the play off draw?

Not Man Utd ;-)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: cicfada on October 07, 2011, 09:20:20 PM
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro2012/standings/round=15171/group=700962/index.html

Link to uefas group standings!  Hard  to know who will be second in many groups!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: EC Unique on October 07, 2011, 09:22:52 PM
What other teams are likely to be in the play off draw?

Not Man Utd ;-)
???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on October 07, 2011, 10:07:20 PM
Things standing as they are, what are the likely scenarios?  Play offs  possible or probable?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on October 07, 2011, 10:10:32 PM
A draw against Armenia and it's a playoff. Beat Armenia and it's still probably a playoff unless Andorra beat Russia :D. Lose to Armenia and it's goodnight Luke.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sammymaguire on October 07, 2011, 10:13:34 PM
Anyone think this 2nd half is boring as f**k? Just stuck £20 on Keane to score next to make it interesting....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 07, 2011, 10:15:22 PM
Anyone think this 2nd half is boring as f**k? Just stuck £20 on Keane to score next to make it interesting....

Sure is, but they know they have it won, it was always gonna be like this if we scored a couple early on.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: EC Unique on October 07, 2011, 10:17:13 PM
Anyone think this 2nd half is boring as f**k? Just stuck £20 on Keane to score next to make it interesting....

Paint drying. Brutal stuff.  :-\
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shamrock Shore on October 07, 2011, 10:20:11 PM
Zzzzzzzzz Zzzzzzzzz. That second half seems to have lasted 6 hours
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sammymaguire on October 07, 2011, 10:24:33 PM
You would have still thought they could have banged in 2 more for confidence going in to Tuesday night even though they have won the game and fans have given up alot to go out there to watch that
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 07, 2011, 10:28:59 PM
You would have still thought they could have banged in 2 more for confidence going in to Tuesday night even though they have won the game and fans have given up alot to go out there to watch that
shite teams dont score much
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 07, 2011, 10:39:15 PM
Great to get the 3 points and the Armenia game is now huge!!

On to the next big game of the weekend now,been looking forward to it all week!

I reckon it will be Clough-Ballacolla by 3 points..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 07, 2011, 11:04:24 PM
Great to get the 3 points and the Armenia game is now huge!!

On to the next big game of the weekend now,been looking forward to it all week!

I reckon it will be Clough-Ballacolla by 3 points..
heard their forwards aren't great(Sean o' Brien was sayin'......)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 08, 2011, 10:00:20 AM
Playoff countries.

Belgium or Turkey
Armenia or Ireland
Estonia or Serbia
Bosnia or France
Sweden
Greece or Croatia
Montenegro
Denmark, Portugal or Norway
Czech Republic or Scotland

One will go through as best second place team.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gold on October 08, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
France--it has to be
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: From the Bunker on October 08, 2011, 12:01:33 PM
Playoff countries.

Belgium or Turkey
Armenia or Ireland
Estonia or Serbia
Bosnia or France
Sweden
Greece or Croatia
Montenegro
Denmark, Portugal or Norway
Czech Republic or Scotland

One will go through as best second place team.

Actually, does not look too bad! We would be hoping ironically for an away second tie, as we get the better results away!

Slovakia away 1-1 home 0-0
Russia away 0-0 home 2-3
Macedonia away 0-2 home 2-1
Andorra away 0-2 home 3-1
Armenia away 0-1 home ?

Away we have collected 11 points outta 15
home we have collected 7 points outta 12
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Billys Boots on October 08, 2011, 01:39:35 PM
A draw against Armenia and it's a playoff. Beat Armenia and it's still probably a playoff unless Andorra beat Russia :D. Lose to Armenia and it's goodnight Luke.

We're also in the running, but probably unlikely, for a best second place direct qualification.  We badly need Holland to beat Sweden in Sweden (I think). 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: bridgegael on October 08, 2011, 05:40:16 PM
are the playoffs seeded again,  or has UEFA got all their favourites through already??
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 08, 2011, 05:55:58 PM
are the playoffs seeded again,  or has UEFA got all their favourites through already??
we're not good enough to go to the finals
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 08, 2011, 06:48:08 PM
A draw against Armenia and it's a playoff. Beat Armenia and it's still probably a playoff unless Andorra beat Russia :D. Lose to Armenia and it's goodnight Luke.

We're also in the running, but probably unlikely, for a best second place direct qualification.  We badly need Holland to beat Sweden in Sweden (I think).

No we're not. We can't catch whoever finishes second in Group H.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on October 08, 2011, 10:30:00 PM
A draw against Armenia and it's a playoff. Beat Armenia and it's still probably a playoff unless Andorra beat Russia :D. Lose to Armenia and it's goodnight Luke.

We're also in the running, but probably unlikely, for a best second place direct qualification.  We badly need Holland to beat Sweden in Sweden (I think).

No we're not. We can't catch whoever finishes second in Group H.
That's right, in fact we are not in contention at all for the best runner up spot.
Those guys need to keep up with the program  ;D
But being seeded in the play-off draw is just about guaranteed should Irl beat Armenia.

That means if we get through to the play off it will be on the back of a a gammy draw.


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Orangemac on October 08, 2011, 11:29:50 PM
A draw against Armenia and it's a playoff. Beat Armenia and it's still probably a playoff unless Andorra beat Russia :D. Lose to Armenia and it's goodnight Luke.

We're also in the running, but probably unlikely, for a best second place direct qualification.  We badly need Holland to beat Sweden in Sweden (I think).

No we're not. We can't catch whoever finishes second in Group H.
That's right, in fact we are not in contention at all for the best runner up spot.
Those guys need to keep up with the program  ;D
But being seeded in the play-off draw is just about guaranteed should Irl beat Armenia.

That means if we get through to the play off it will be on the back of a a gammy draw.
If the play offs are seeded based upon UEFA coefficients will Ireland be in the top 4? Would Czech Republic, Croatia, Denmark and Turkey not all be above Ireland?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on October 09, 2011, 03:14:58 PM

If the play offs are seeded based upon UEFA coefficients will Ireland be in the top 4? Would Czech Republic, Croatia, Denmark and Turkey not all be above Ireland?

Without getting too technical, if Ireland win they should be seeded in the play offs.
Ireland are already ahead of the Czech Rep and Turkey.

The play off seedings will be based on positions in this table.
http://www.world-results.net/uefa/ranking.html#2011 (http://www.world-results.net/uefa/ranking.html#2011)

But if there is an alignment of 4 different circumstances, Ireland could win and not be seeded.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on October 10, 2011, 09:16:40 AM
The English and All Blacks can't hold a candle to Robbie
http://www.joe.ie/football/international-football/was-robbie-on-the-razz-in-malahide-last-night-0016531-1 (http://www.joe.ie/football/international-football/was-robbie-on-the-razz-in-malahide-last-night-0016531-1)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 10, 2011, 09:20:33 AM
The English and All Blacks can't hold a candle to Robbie
http://www.joe.ie/football/international-football/was-robbie-on-the-razz-in-malahide-last-night-0016531-1 (http://www.joe.ie/football/international-football/was-robbie-on-the-razz-in-malahide-last-night-0016531-1)
Hope he sings better than he plays
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on October 10, 2011, 10:37:19 AM
joe.ie...bringing english style paparazzi sh1t celebrity muck journalism to Ireland
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 10, 2011, 10:53:43 AM
joe.ie...bringing english style paparazzi sh1t celebrity muck journalism to Ireland
NO more than the 'Irish'Sun/Mirror/Star muck thats on the newstands
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 10, 2011, 04:10:48 PM
If Keane is missing tomorrow night, would it be a huge disaster??  Are you losing that much (bar experience) by having Long on instead?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bingo on October 10, 2011, 04:19:29 PM
If Keane is missing tomorrow night, would it be a huge disaster??  Are you losing that much (bar experience) by having Long on instead?

Cox is starting is Keanes place, assume Long on bench. Kelly in for Ward with O'Shea switching to LB and Kelly at RB.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 10, 2011, 04:37:40 PM
If Keane is missing tomorrow night, would it be a huge disaster??  Are you losing that much (bar experience) by having Long on instead?

Cox is starting is Keanes place, assume Long on bench. Kelly in for Ward with O'Shea switching to LB and Kelly at RB.

Oh... Cox can't get his game at West Brom because of Long's form and yet...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on October 10, 2011, 05:26:29 PM
If Keane is missing tomorrow night, would it be a huge disaster??  Are you losing that much (bar experience) by having Long on instead?

I'd say you're losing a lot of bar experience.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bingo on October 10, 2011, 05:37:10 PM
Oh... Cox can't get his game at West Brom because of Long's form and yet...

Trap is a funny man...when Long was at Reading he seemed to be ahead of Doyle, now he's 4th choice  :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: davegaasportsdesk on October 10, 2011, 05:41:17 PM
it just seems to be getting more and more bizarre with trap these days. Hopefully we make it though and get the win. If we do we are top seeds in the playoffs.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: SHEEDY on October 10, 2011, 06:34:42 PM
If Keane is missing tomorrow night, would it be a huge disaster??  Are you losing that much (bar experience) by having Long on instead?

Cox is starting is Keanes place, assume Long on bench. Kelly in for Ward with O'Shea switching to LB and Kelly at RB.
thought shane long was a certainty to start! cant work that one out, hope trap is proved right!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BennyHarp on October 10, 2011, 06:36:53 PM
Does anyone know what dates the play off games are on? I can't seem to find it anywhere online.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Boycey on October 10, 2011, 06:44:08 PM
Does anyone know what dates the play off games are on? I can't seem to find it anywhere online.

From UEFAs own website

Play-off draw this Thursday
First leg - 11,12th Nov
Second leg - 15th Nov
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BennyHarp on October 10, 2011, 06:47:34 PM
Cheers Boycey!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Aaron Boone on October 10, 2011, 11:59:10 PM
Like the form of Armenia coming into this one, will go for the draw at 5/2.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 11, 2011, 03:17:07 PM
Oh... Cox can't get his game at West Brom because of Long's form and yet...

Trap is a funny man...when Long was at Reading he seemed to be ahead of Doyle, now he's 4th choice  :o
With his contract,I'd say he thinks its fuckin hilarious!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on October 11, 2011, 03:27:33 PM
Like the form of Armenia coming into this one, will go for the draw at 5/2.

what price are Armenia to win?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: SHEEDY on October 11, 2011, 03:34:19 PM
Like the form of Armenia coming into this one, will go for the draw at 5/2.

what price are Armenia to win?
armenia are 4-1. ireland are 8-11
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AZOffaly on October 11, 2011, 03:37:19 PM
Like the form of Armenia coming into this one, will go for the draw at 5/2.

what price are Armenia to win?
armenia are 4-1. ireland are 8-11

so if a man put 20 quid on Armenia, then best case scenario he loses 20 quid. Worst case scenario he makes 80 quid. Hmm.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 03:39:23 PM
Like the form of Armenia coming into this one, will go for the draw at 5/2.

what price are Armenia to win?
armenia are 4-1. ireland are 8-11

so if a man put 20 quid on Armenia, then best case scenario he loses 20 quid. Worst case scenario he makes 80 quid. Hmm.

Don't even think about it! Never bet against your own..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 11, 2011, 03:48:47 PM
Like the form of Armenia coming into this one, will go for the draw at 5/2.

what price are Armenia to win?
armenia are 4-1. ireland are 8-11

so if a man put 20 quid on Armenia, then best case scenario he loses 20 quid. Worst case scenario he makes 80 quid. Hmm.

Don't even think about it! Never bet against your own..
...as Rooneys father might say
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 11, 2011, 03:54:08 PM
Ireland cant lose surely. Who are armenia - they rank even below the north in fifa ratings.
While I am a big fan of Robbie Keane over the years - 50 something goals proves he can score, his form since going to the beezer homes USA league isnt what it shoul dbe and he missed at least three sitters on Friday.
While I'd think Walters or Long should start , Cox should do a decent job (Best in form right now and overlooked again).
Anyhow, a win is easily achievable, a draw the lest result-  if not then this would be the worst result for Ireland and would be a complete disaster for soccer in Ireland.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on October 11, 2011, 03:59:15 PM
Cox is very similar to robbie as a player and Long dirtied his bib by not telling Trap he was injured when Trap named him in team last month, Long then played for club on the Sat after missing int games.

Armenia 4/1 hmm 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 11, 2011, 06:21:36 PM
Ireland cant lose surely. Who are armenia - they rank even below the north in fifa ratings.
While I am a big fan of Robbie Keane over the years - 50 something goals proves he can score, his form since going to the beezer homes USA league isnt what it shoul dbe and he missed at least three sitters on Friday.  While I'd think Walters or Long should start , Cox should do a decent job (Best in form right now and overlooked again).
Anyhow, a win is easily achievable, a draw the lest result-  if not then this would be the worst result for Ireland and would be a complete disaster for soccer in Ireland.
he was missing them before he went as well
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Ulick on October 11, 2011, 06:28:54 PM
RTE stream

http://magic-tv.co/?page_id=1138 (http://magic-tv.co/?page_id=1138)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 11, 2011, 06:30:01 PM
Ireland cant lose surely. Who are armenia - they rank even below the north in fifa ratings.

Eh, no they don't. They're 26 places ahead of them and not a kick in the arse behind us.

Nervy evening ahead. Reckon we'll hold on for a scoreless draw.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 11, 2011, 06:42:08 PM
Jaysus not too confident about this one at all... Can't over the team selection - Giles calls it nonsense, Dunphy says it's "perverse" and Brady is very worried....

Plenty of spare seats at the minute... Hope that changes
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 06:43:28 PM
Another dire game ahead of us.  We should be winning these games but I feel we will have to take a draw.  1-1 which will see us into the playoffs.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 11, 2011, 06:50:37 PM
Another dire game ahead of us.  We should be winning these games but I feel we will have to take a draw.  1-1 which will see us into the playoffs.

Thats highly negative!!  We need to be beating Armenia at home in fairness.
We are a bad side to watch though, play a horrible style of soccer.  I dont understand with the way Ireland play that Rory Delap doesnt get game time  ??? Is he even in the squad?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 06:54:42 PM
I don't disagree about winning these games but seeing that a draw is enough I feel that the team that Trap sets out won't take the risks or attack far enough up the field to but the pressure on and win this game by two or three like I feel we should.  Trap will be happy with a draw and won't do much more than is required for fear of falling a goal behind.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 06:56:26 PM
Ten minutes in and all the pressure is coming from the Armenians.  It could be a long 90 minutes.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 11, 2011, 06:59:12 PM
Against Slovakia - Ireland looked the away team

It looks like its going to be the same here, Armenia owning the ball with some nice triangle passing.  Why do Ireland look so technically bad to other teams? 

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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 07:00:19 PM
What is Kelly at.  Terrible challange.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 11, 2011, 07:05:54 PM
Surely the whole lack of euthaism over the Ireland soccer team could be partly explained by the flipping dire stuff they play
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: sans pessimism on October 11, 2011, 07:08:25 PM
Surely the whole lack of euthaism over the Ireland soccer team could be partly explained by the flipping dire stuff they play
agreed
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 11, 2011, 07:10:08 PM
  I dont understand with the way Ireland play that Rory Delap doesnt get game time  ??? Is he even in the squad?

What is it exactly about the way Ireland play that makes you think Delap would be an appropriate selection?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 11, 2011, 07:14:26 PM
Keeper off that's a boost
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: FermGael on October 11, 2011, 07:14:56 PM
Did Cox not handball that??
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BennyHarp on October 11, 2011, 07:15:51 PM
About time a controversial hand ball decision went our way - two years too late though!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on October 11, 2011, 07:17:06 PM
Keeper didnt, watched , slowed it down off his chest
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 07:18:20 PM
Keeper didnt, watched , slowed it down off his chest

It hit underneath his arm I thought.  I feel sorry for the keeper but the ref got this one right.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on October 11, 2011, 07:18:34 PM
Foul the keeper, high foot and hand ball in the space of 5 minutes by Simon Cox equals the opposition goal keeper getting sent off. Life works like that sometimes.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Family guy on October 11, 2011, 07:21:17 PM
Mcgeady is shocking bad,giving the ball away every time,get it out the other side to duff
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 07:21:35 PM
I don't understand why McGeady continuously starts for Ireland.  Hunt always looks more dangerous when he is on and I'd much rather see him getting a chance.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 11, 2011, 07:22:52 PM
Who would take a penalty if we got one tonight?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 11, 2011, 07:24:06 PM
Russia up 3-0 already.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Family guy on October 11, 2011, 07:24:50 PM
Who would take a penalty if we got one tonight?

Think it would have to be a stone wall for the ref to give it,he wont be inclined to give ireland much now in a way of leveling it up
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 07:28:07 PM
Lucky not to give away the free in front of the box there...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Square Ball on October 11, 2011, 07:30:16 PM
what a muppet (no offence)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 11, 2011, 07:30:26 PM
Dunne would be proud of that OG  :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 07:30:35 PM
Armenia have handed this to us.  Going a man down and giving us a goal.  Doyle what was he thinking...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gold on October 11, 2011, 07:31:06 PM
Lucky as f**k!

Aidan McGeady should be took out the back and clipped. I hate him he's awful--head down primary school footballer
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Square Ball on October 11, 2011, 07:32:09 PM
Armenia have handed this to us.  Going a man down and giving us a goal.  Doyle what was he thinking...

nearly even got both keepers sent off
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Capt Pat on October 11, 2011, 07:33:02 PM
Well this has turned into a bit of a walk in the park........or a kick about in the park with that school boy error from the Armenians.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Kerry Mike on October 11, 2011, 07:33:47 PM
Darren O Sullivan would  have scored and he was being marked !!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on October 11, 2011, 07:34:09 PM
This has match fixing written all over it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 07:34:58 PM
A goal to the good at the half and not because we are the better team...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gold on October 11, 2011, 07:38:28 PM
Well this has turned into a bit of a walk in the park........or a kick about in the park with that school boy error from the Armenians.

Remember Macedonia?!

Nothin is straightforward.

We are bad though--cant see us beating anyone in the playoff without large slices of luck like tonight!

I've said it before on here, i'd live and die by Stephen Hunt--he gives his all. McGeady i wouldnt want in my 6 a side team. I sat through 2 years of him with the head down in Croker --put me off going to watch Ireland
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BennyCake on October 11, 2011, 07:43:01 PM
Lucky as f**k!

Aidan McGeady should be took out the back and clipped. I hate him he's awful--head down primary school footballer

I think McGeady is Trappatoni's love child. Theres no other explanation for him being in that team.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 11, 2011, 07:44:34 PM
How anyone can bemoan a footballer running with his head down, and in the same breath champion Stephen Hunt, is beyond me.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 11, 2011, 07:44:45 PM
They have had 55% possession having played with 10 men since the 26th minute... says it all
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 07:49:38 PM
How anyone can bemoan a footballer running with his head down, and in the same breath champion Stephen Hunt, is beyond me.

IMO Hunt is a better footballer than McGeady.  He might not be great but he looks so much more dangerous than McGeady.  People have built McGeady up as this great footballer ever since he was a young lad at Celtic, I never rated him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 11, 2011, 07:53:29 PM
How anyone can bemoan a footballer running with his head down, and in the same breath champion Stephen Hunt, is beyond me.

He runs around a lot.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Fermanaghandsam on October 11, 2011, 07:55:37 PM
What about Coleman on the right and Duff on the left, surely thats the best combination of wingers, with Aidan in the stand watching!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BennyCake on October 11, 2011, 07:57:38 PM
What about Coleman on the right and Duff on the left, surely thats the best combination of wingers, with Aidan in the stand watching!!!

I wouldn't even have McGeady in the country!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 07:59:06 PM
Scots 1-0 down.  So much for my long shot Ireland vs Scotland playoff draw.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 11, 2011, 08:03:33 PM
McGeady creates Ireland's 2nd. Raises middle finger to detractors.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 11, 2011, 08:04:30 PM
Yeah that 2nd goal was all about McGeady fair fcuks to him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 11, 2011, 08:06:02 PM
Boys obviously decided to go for a bit of a kip after getting the 2nd. Slack as f**k.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bensars on October 11, 2011, 08:07:47 PM
Boys obviously decided to go for a bit of a kip after getting the 2nd. Slack as f**k.

Shay given did anyway. Terrible keeping
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 08:08:29 PM
McGeady creates Ireland's 2nd. Raises middle finger to detractors.

Credit when it's due.  Brilliant bit of play to set that goal up.  However it still doesn't get past the fact I don't rate him one bit.  He continues to do that and he might change my mind however.

Poor goal to concede straight away.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tyssam5 on October 11, 2011, 08:12:23 PM
McGeady creates Ireland's 2nd. Raises middle finger to detractors.

Credit when it's due.  Brilliant bit of play to set that goal up.  However it still doesn't get past the fact I don't rate him one bit.  He continues to do that and he might change my mind however.

Poor goal to concede straight away.

McGeady has had a number of very decent games in this qualifying series. I've sat through most of the games, mainly because in my time zone they are on during work hours. I sure as shit wouldn't give up my free time to watch Trap's army!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 11, 2011, 08:13:00 PM
Doyle gone for first play-off game if they get there. Needless foul.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Gold on October 11, 2011, 08:13:19 PM
Fck off McGeady

C'mon the Hunter
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 11, 2011, 08:13:28 PM
McGeady done very well to set up Dunne's goal but he has had a nightmare.... Gald he is off...

And ffs Doyle misses potential first play off game with stupid yellow
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Minder on October 11, 2011, 08:18:24 PM
Boys obviously decided to go for a bit of a kip after getting the 2nd. Slack as f**k.

Shay given did anyway. Terrible keeping

Are they  allowed to criticise Given? It was brutal goalkeeping but according to Ray Houghton it was an "excellent finish".
Title: FAI thread
Post by: screenmachine on October 11, 2011, 08:19:49 PM
Can anyone explain what Houghton means when he says that you have to be mentally strong enough to hold onto the ball? If you really believe that you will keep the ball will the Armenians not tackle you? What a ballbag...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 11, 2011, 08:21:47 PM
Holding on bravely here against the 10 men.
Title: Re: FAI thread
Post by: tyssam5 on October 11, 2011, 08:22:29 PM
Can anyone explain what Houghton means when he says that you have to be mentally strong enough to hold onto the ball? If you really believe that you will keep the ball will the Armenians not tackle you? What a ballbag...

He meant you have to be mentally strong enough to ignore Traps instructions to hoof her up there in the style of Big Jack.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 11, 2011, 08:24:42 PM
Doyle sent off. Jaysis.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: gerrykeegan on October 11, 2011, 08:26:22 PM
Ref got that spot on, don't what's eating Doyle
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on October 11, 2011, 08:26:49 PM
Hard to know who is the bigger eejit. Doyle for raising the elbow on a yellow a man up, or Trap for taking off the guy not on the card.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 11, 2011, 08:29:44 PM
Jon Walters has done more in 5 mins than McGeady did - holding it up well
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on October 11, 2011, 08:30:28 PM
McGeady is merely a headless chicken.

Hunt is a headless chicken who has stolen Paul McShane's head.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 08:30:42 PM
I was all ready to eat the head of Hunt but in fairness I thought that red was harsh.

On another note is there anything more frustrating than watching Ireland pile on the pressure at the Armenian box only to instead pass the ball all the way back to the keeper.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thejuice on October 11, 2011, 08:32:59 PM
this is worse than watching Donegal.

do we qualify if we win or whats the story?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tyssam5 on October 11, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
this is worse than watching Donegal.

do we qualify if we win or whats the story?

Qualify to get beaten in a 2 leg play-off
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 11, 2011, 08:36:59 PM
When is the play-off draw?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2011, 08:38:00 PM
this is worse than watching Donegal.

do we qualify if we win or whats the story?

Qualify to get beaten in a 2 leg play-off

 ;D ;D

You wouldn't even get a good price for that
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tyssam5 on October 11, 2011, 08:38:32 PM
When is the play-off draw?

I think Thursday
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on October 11, 2011, 08:39:13 PM
Time for Apres Match.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 11, 2011, 08:40:00 PM
When is the play-off draw?

I think Thursday

Plenty time to rig it then.  Where will Ryanaiir be hoping for?  What chances Montenegro?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2011, 08:40:13 PM
What happens if they are one of the top seeds? Home last match or a lesser team to play against?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 11, 2011, 08:40:23 PM
Job done tonight i wouldn't fancy us v anyone in the play offs. 2nd leg at home?
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: dec on October 11, 2011, 08:40:45 PM
this is worse than watching Donegal.

do we qualify if we win or whats the story?

Qualify to get beaten in a 2 leg play-off

Playoff record for major tournaments.

1996 Netherlands 0-2
1998 Belgium 1-1, 1-2
2000 Turkey 1-1, 0-0
2002 Iran 2-0, 0-1
2010 France 0-1, 1-1

If they get drawn against an Asian team in the playoffs they might have a chance.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on October 11, 2011, 08:41:21 PM
When is the play-off draw?

I think Thursday

Plenty time to rig it then. Where will Ryanaiir be hoping for?  What chances Montenegro?

Perfect, they will drop you off in Doncaster.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 11, 2011, 08:42:13 PM
What happens if they are one of the top seeds? Home last match or a lesser team to play against?

I belive Bowl A has top 4 seeds and can play any of the 4 in bowl B.  Bowl A team has second leg at home.

All subject to confirmation, of course.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2011, 08:43:35 PM
Ha Bosnia beating France!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 11, 2011, 08:44:33 PM
When is the play-off draw?

I think Thursday

Plenty time to rig it then. Where will Ryanaiir be hoping for?  What chances Montenegro?

Perfect, they will drop you off in Doncaster.


Why Doncaster?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 08:45:09 PM
Great to get the win,I'd rather see them winning playing poor than losing playing well.

I wouldn't be too concerned about Doyle missing as we have good options up front now with the likes of Long,Best,Cox and Walters.
Midfield is a problem, Whelan is awful imo as is McGeady. I'd have Coleman and Fahy in instead.
Good chance of qualifying now,it be just great to qualify.
Brilliant to see the stadium almost full and the place rocking.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Denn Forever on October 11, 2011, 08:45:40 PM
2nd game at home not as big an advantage.  Anyone fancy France in a play off?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on October 11, 2011, 08:45:49 PM
Lads we are an absolute shambles. Outplayed by 10 men. Experienced players panicking when we should have closed out the game in a canter.   
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bensars on October 11, 2011, 08:49:08 PM
Won't qualify. Poor side. 2 gifted goals. No attacking flair. Shots on goal are like hens teeth
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 08:49:52 PM
Denmark beating Portugal 2-0 so we could have France and Portugal in the draw if we don't get to be a top seed.
France only need draw v Bosnia so hopefully they can get an equaliser which should make us a top seed.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 11, 2011, 08:51:56 PM
Denmark beating Portugal 2-0 so we could have France and Portugal in the draw if we don't get to be a top seed.
France only need draw v Bosnia so hopefully they can get an equaliser which should make us a top seed.

Bosnia just scored, so it is still on !
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 11, 2011, 08:53:21 PM
Funny game, nice result.

Thought Cox was decent and Walters looked very useful when he came on. Duff put in a good shift. Delighted Dunne got his goal.

Doyle looked to be in one of his moods and deserved to be lined. McGeady was largely shite, but has had a good campaign and is still better than Hunt.

With Doyle and Keane out for the first playoff game, wouldn't mind seeing a front two of Walters and Long. Nice mix of strength and pace there. Cox could be a great addition if he could do two good things in a row a bit more often.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: SHEEDY on October 11, 2011, 08:54:02 PM
jaysis, we made hard work of that. draw is on thursday at midday.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on October 11, 2011, 08:54:18 PM
Looking forward to seeing Trap starting with either Keane Cox or Long Cox up front.

Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bensars on October 11, 2011, 08:54:51 PM
Not looking like being seeded. France Portugal turkey Belgium most likely above.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GAA_Talk on October 11, 2011, 08:56:05 PM
Lads we are an absolute shambles. Outplayed by 10 men. Experienced players panicking when we should have closed out the game in a canter.
Won't qualify. Poor side. 2 gifted goals. No attacking flair. Shots on goal are like hens teeth

Now I know this is the best place to come on to criticize and voice opinions but can a few of us not just be happy that we'v made it to the play offs and possibly the finals next summer.

Come on lads. We can live and dream  :)
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 11, 2011, 08:56:29 PM
Not looking like being seeded. France Portugal turkey Belgium most likely above.

Belgium aren't even in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Bensars on October 11, 2011, 08:57:11 PM
My apologies
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 08:58:07 PM
A result is a result.  Its typical Ireland though.  We go to places like Russia, Italy, France etc and come away with a lot more than anyone ever expects us to yet we struggle to outplay less skilled teams such as Armenia and Andorra.

We got two lucky goals but a result is a result and again we find ourselves in the playoffs.  I can't wait for the draw.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 09:00:10 PM
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Now I know this is the best place to come on to criticize and voice opinions but can a few of us not just be happy that we'v made it to the play offs and possibly the finals next summer.

Come on lads. We can live and dream  :)

Some lads would rather spend their time putting Irish soccer down all the time than getting behind them and support them.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 09:01:40 PM
A result is a result.  Its typical Ireland though.  We go to places like Russia, Italy, France etc and come away with a lot more than anyone ever expects us to yet we struggle to outplay less skilled teams such as Armenia and Andorra.

We got two lucky goals but a result is a result and again we find ourselves in the playoffs. I can't wait for the draw.

Same as that really looking forward to it now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on October 11, 2011, 09:02:40 PM
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Some lads would rather spend their time putting Irish soccer down all the time than getting behind them and support them.

Bullshit - you can support the team and still criticise them. I hope we qualify but that doesn't take away from the fact that we were blessed tonight
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on October 11, 2011, 09:03:10 PM
Quote
Now I know this is the best place to come on to criticize and voice opinions but can a few of us not just be happy that we'v made it to the play offs and possibly the finals next summer.

Come on lads. We can live and dream  :)

Some lads would rather spend their time putting Irish soccer down all the time than getting behind them and support them.

Like you and the rugby team?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shortso79 on October 11, 2011, 09:05:23 PM
Jesus lads.... reality check

At the start of the campaign - you would have snapped up a play off place

We were lucky with the goalkeeper been sent off - about time we had a bit of fortune

I'm sure other countries would swap our position in a heart beat

Results matter and u have to hand it to Trapp - he's getting them

Would you rather play more attractive football and get beat 4-3

That two's campaigns under Trapp - two tough groups and play offs in both achieved

In that campaign - played 10 - won 6 - drawn 3 and lost 1
 
No matter who we get in the play offs - We'll be the under-dogs



Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on October 11, 2011, 09:05:52 PM
Phewww! We never make it easy for ourselves. Hopefully the draw is kind

The sky generation is out in force tonight. This team, a very limited team with few better than average players have busted their holes and got a playoff spot which I'm sure we'd all have taken at the start of the campaign. This isn't some billionaire's English premiership play thing were players can be bought and given ludicrous wages to give their Irish fans instant gratification. This is your bastarding country, through thick and often painful thin, get behind them ffs, and not just during the good times. A lot of folk in here spreading their hate are worse the English and the Irish tabloid papers that they constantly give out about

Looking forward to the draw
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 09:06:05 PM
France just missed a sitter..
Bosnia look a decent team themselves actually.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 11, 2011, 09:06:13 PM
From Main Street's link a few pages back and the scores at present it looks like we'll still be seeded.

Looks like Croatia and Portugal will definitely be seeded. France will also be seeded if their score remains the same. We'll come in next, with Serbia not counting as they're currently losing in Slovenia. Montenegro, Turkey, Estonia and Czech Republic would go unseeded.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 11, 2011, 09:06:19 PM
Whatever about the players or management it's surely time Dunphy was pensioned off, same aul predictable shite.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on October 11, 2011, 09:08:54 PM
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This is your bastarding country, through thick and often painful thin, get behind them ffs, and not just during the good times.
Bullshit  - getting behind them and criticizing them are not mutually exclusive
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: ross4life on October 11, 2011, 09:10:39 PM
Whatever about the players or management it's surely time Dunphy was pensioned off, same aul predictable shite.

http://www.eamondunphysoundboard.com/
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 09:12:45 PM
Whatever about the players or management it's surely time Dunphy was pensioned off, same aul predictable shite.

Didn't realise how bad he had gotten.
This was the first home qualifying game I couldn't attend and had to make do with watching on RTE.
Dunphy is an arsehole.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: J OGorman on October 11, 2011, 09:12:52 PM
Quote
This is your bastarding country, through thick and often painful thin, get behind them ffs, and not just during the good times.
Bullshit  - getting behind them and criticizing them are not mutually exclusive

Don't worry Declan, nobodies gonna stop you spreading your venom behind your keyboard, keep her lit. Anger is your friend
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on October 11, 2011, 09:15:33 PM
Spreading anger -get real will you. When will people realise that you can support your team and hope they qualify and still criticize their performance.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 11, 2011, 09:19:54 PM
Jaysus that was desperate stuff to watch... we can't play football lads and that's a big problem in a football game...

Doyle was silly and Trap was even more silly to not take him off instead of Cox moments before... But he must be so frustrated playing in that team with that sort of a game plan i.e. the Garryowen and play for territory rather than possession  >:(

Whoever we get we're surely gonna be massive underdogs that said it's great to be the play offs and be so close to a major tournament...

By the way I'll be roaring at the TV hoping like hell we win both playoff games - One can criticise your team and still  be a supporter...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on October 11, 2011, 09:23:16 PM
By the way I'll be roaring at the TV hoping like hell we win both playoff games - One can criticise your team and still  be a supporter...

Is that not a must for the Gaa supporter?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 09:25:51 PM
Jaysus that was desperate stuff to watch... we can't play football lads and that's a big problem in a football game...

Doyle was silly and Trap was even more silly to not take him off instead of Cox moments before... But he must be so frustrated playing in that team with that sort of a game plan i.e. the Garryowen and play for territory rather than possession  >:(

Whoever we get we're surely gonna be massive underdogs that said it's great to be the play offs and be so close to a major tournament...

By the way I'll be roaring at the TV hoping like hell we win both playoff games - One can criticise your team and still  be a supporter...

Yeah of course you can criticise them when they deserve it and they do deserve some after tonight.
Some fellas just love to always look at the glass half empty though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: From the Bunker on October 11, 2011, 09:27:25 PM
Well done to the boys in green!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Celt_Man on October 11, 2011, 09:27:43 PM
Jaysus that was desperate stuff to watch... we can't play football lads and that's a big problem in a football game...

Doyle was silly and Trap was even more silly to not take him off instead of Cox moments before... But he must be so frustrated playing in that team with that sort of a game plan i.e. the Garryowen and play for territory rather than possession  >:(

Whoever we get we're surely gonna be massive underdogs that said it's great to be the play offs and be so close to a major tournament...

By the way I'll be roaring at the TV hoping like hell we win both playoff games - One can criticise your team and still  be a supporter...

Yeah of course you can criticise them when they deserve it and they do deserve some after tonight.
Some fellas just love to always look at the glass half empty though.

Tis the Irish way of going on I'm afraid...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Galwaybhoy on October 11, 2011, 09:29:31 PM
I'm not really worried about missing Doyle.  I don't think either Doyle or Long are that good when playing for Ireland but between the two I'd rather see Long.  I'm more worried about Keane missing the game.  People like to bash Keane at every opportunity but whatever about his club form down through the years he is easily Irelands best striker of all time and while frustrating at times we can't do without him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 11, 2011, 09:30:51 PM

Whoever we get we're surely gonna be massive underdogs that said it's great to be the play offs and be so close to a major tournament...


Even Estonia? The Czechs or Montenegro shouldn't have anyone quaking in their boots either. Some people need to realise that there are feck all decent international sides out there. Playing tight, percentages football like we do gives us a decent shot against the vast majority of opponents. One defeat in twenty qualifying games is an impressive record.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Orangemac on October 11, 2011, 09:31:09 PM
Walters played well tonight in the 10 mins he was on and despite Cox working hard tonight Walters and Long up front if Keane is not available would be a decent partnership.

So Portugal, France, Croatia and Czech Rep would be top seeds? Would take Czech Republic.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thewobbler on October 11, 2011, 09:32:06 PM
It's bizarre that at a time when Ireland have never had so many useful options up front - Keane, Doyle, Long, Walters, Best and Cox all Premiership regulars (keane not so long ago) - that Ireland never look like scoring.

I'd go with Walters and Long next time out.

I have to say though, fair play to Trap. Scotland and Wales are similarly sized, football mad countries, but it's been many years since either could ground out a result like the current Irish crop. I'd love to see better football, but there is a genuine absence of ball players about.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 09:33:26 PM

Whoever we get we're surely gonna be massive underdogs that said it's great to be the play offs and be so close to a major tournament...


One defeat in twenty qualifying games is an impressive record.

A lot of fellas forgetting that stat,also hadn't we had just gone 6 games or something without conceding a goal before tonight.?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: muppet on October 11, 2011, 09:33:41 PM
Walters played well tonight in the 10 mins he was on and despite Cox working hard tonight Walters and Long up front if Keane is not available would be a decent partnership.

So Portugal, France, Croatia and Czech Rep would be top seeds? Would take Czech Republic.

Please can we not have Long Cox up front?

Even just to see the Sky girls reading it out?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 11, 2011, 09:34:30 PM
So Portugal, France, Croatia and Czech Rep would be top seeds? Would take Czech Republic.

No. Portugal, France, Croatia and Ireland are seeded as things stand. We'll be seeded as long as both Bosnia and Serbia don't win.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 09:35:08 PM
France have scored.
So that puts them through if it stays 1-1
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Declan on October 11, 2011, 09:35:38 PM
Lads - Trap will not play Long after he dirtied his bib by sying he was injured and then playing for his club on the Sat.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: thewobbler on October 11, 2011, 09:36:59 PM
He forgave Walters after a similar misdemeanour though. It just takes a little time for the old b**tard to give in.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: dec on October 11, 2011, 09:41:27 PM
Slovenia have beaten Serbia so Ireland are one of the top seeds in the playoffs
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 11, 2011, 09:45:15 PM
Lads - Trap will not play Long after he dirtied his bib by sying he was injured and then playing for his club on the Sat.
yep, you mentioned that earlier and it proved to be true tonight. would agree with what you post on this thread tonight.
I would pefer walters to start and after tonight, would have cox as his strike partner.
Mcgeady double teamed and poor enough tonight, great cross for the goal but still our best winger as he continues his progression to fulfil his promise.
Duff getting back to his old self but lost his pace. We are too negative in the centre of midfield. Lelly obv not a left full back and OShea doesnt get forward enough anymore as a right full back.
That Ireland squad are playing well under what they are capable of.

They need to start improving or they wont qualify through the playoffs and I reckon they can. Only portugal would worry me.
The rest are beatable. Clean sheets a great team do not make.
Woudl criticise trap on his substitutions tonight as muppet has already alluded to. Doyle should have been taken off not cox for a start. Duff was out on his feet.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: dec on October 11, 2011, 09:45:24 PM
Slovenia have beaten Serbia so Ireland are one of the top seeds in the playoffs

Though I wonder if today's result could send Czech Rep above Ireland.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 09:47:15 PM
Slovenia have beaten Serbia so Ireland are one of the top seeds in the playoffs

Though I wonder if today's result could send Czech Rep above Ireland.

France are currently going through automatically so would that not open another spot for top seed?

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BennyCake on October 11, 2011, 09:47:59 PM
Slovenia have beaten Serbia so Ireland are one of the top seeds in the playoffs

Didnt FIFA change the seedings at the last minute for the 2010 world cup, and ireland got france.  They could change their minds again to get the big guns in.  dont be so sure ireland will be seeded.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Orangemac on October 11, 2011, 09:50:00 PM
Slovenia have beaten Serbia so Ireland are one of the top seeds in the playoffs
So Estonia,Montengro, Turkey and Bosnia are 2nd seeds?

On paper Montengro or Estonia would be easier games.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 09:50:22 PM
Slovenia have beaten Serbia so Ireland are one of the top seeds in the playoffs

Didnt FIFA change the seedings at the last minute for the 2010 world cup, and ireland got france.  They could change their minds again to get the big guns in.  dont be so sure ireland will be seeded.

This will be UEFA though so hopefully they are less corrupt than FIFA
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: BennyCake on October 11, 2011, 09:51:56 PM
Slovenia have beaten Serbia so Ireland are one of the top seeds in the playoffs

Didnt FIFA change the seedings at the last minute for the 2010 world cup, and ireland got france.  They could change their minds again to get the big guns in.  dont be so sure ireland will be seeded.

This will be UEFA though so hopefully they are less corrupt than FIFA

They're both the same, corruption-wise.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 09:52:54 PM
France have drew 1-1 so they are through.
Bosnia look very good though so they would be a tough team to get.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 11, 2011, 09:55:11 PM
Ireland not seeded according to World Soccer magazine on twitter.

Saying top seeds would be Croatia, Portugal, Czech Rep and Turkey.

Unseeded Ireland, Bosnia, Montenegro and Estonia.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tommysmith on October 11, 2011, 09:55:54 PM
Ireland not seeded according to World Soccer magazine on twitter.

Saying top seeds would be Croatia, Portugal, Czech Rep and Turkey.

Its all head wrecking!
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: dec on October 11, 2011, 09:58:47 PM
Ireland not seeded according to World Soccer magazine on twitter.

Saying top seeds would be Croatia, Portugal, Czech Rep and Turkey.

Unseeded Ireland, Bosnia, Montenegro and Estonia.

seems to be using out of date rankings
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shortso79 on October 11, 2011, 10:01:04 PM
Head wrecking is right

Per this link - we are seeded ????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012_qualifying#Qualifying_play-offs
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: INDIANA on October 11, 2011, 10:01:42 PM
I think its the seeds pre qualifying tournament which has us 5th
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 11, 2011, 10:02:00 PM
Others saying we are seeded now.

Quote
According to UEFA, the Czech Republic have overtaken Bosnia. So our possible opponents are Turkey, Bosnia, Montenegro, or Estonia
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 10:02:21 PM
These are the current rankings


Rnk   Team   Pts   +/- Pos   
1    Spain   1605   1      
2    Netherlands   1571   -1      
3    Germany   1290   0      
4    Uruguay   1184   1      
5    Portugal   1158   3      
6    Italy   1142   1      
7    Brazil   1132   -1      
8    England   1089   -4      
9    Croatia   1057   1      
10    Argentina   1024   -1      
11    Greece   1000   3      
12    France   956   3      
13    Russia   954   0      
14    Chile   932   -3      
15    Japan   924   0      
16    Côte d'Ivoire   910   -1      
17    Denmark   893   4      
18    Switzerland   886   12      
19    Australia   882   3      
20    Mexico   866   0      
21    Serbia   855   8      
22    Bosnia-Herzegovina   839   17      
23    Norway   835   -11      
24    Paraguay   825   1      
25    Sweden   792   -7      
26    Montenegro   777   -7      
27    Hungary   754   18      
27    Turkey   754   -3      
29    Korea Republic   749   4      
29    Republic of Ireland   749   2      


Going by that there is 5 of the playoff countries ahead of us.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tommysmith on October 11, 2011, 10:03:45 PM
It doesnt go by the rankings though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: AFS on October 11, 2011, 10:04:16 PM
I think its the seeds pre qualifying tournament which has us 5th

It's not. It's the 'national team coefficients established at the conclusion of the group stage'.

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro2012/news/newsid=1689808.html
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: dec on October 11, 2011, 10:04:43 PM
They use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_coefficient not FIFA ranking
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 10:05:14 PM
They use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_coefficient not FIFA ranking

Fair enough.
I'm lost  :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Ulick on October 11, 2011, 10:06:09 PM
These are the current rankings


Going by that there is 5 of the playoff countries ahead of us.

Will they not change after this evenings games though?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Shortso79 on October 11, 2011, 10:07:08 PM
The FAI have tweeted

The seeds are Portugal, Croatia, ROI & Czech Rep.

Unseeded are Bosnia & Herz, Estonia, Montenegro & Turkey.

Draw Thursday at 12pm our time.

http://twitter.com/#!/FAIreland


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 10:08:48 PM
These are the current rankings


Going by that there is 5 of the playoff countries ahead of us.

Will they not change after this evenings games though?

Probably but as someone pointed out it doesn't go on FIFA rankings anyway.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: dec on October 11, 2011, 10:08:53 PM
The FAI have tweeted

The seeds are Portugal, Croatia, ROI & Czech Rep.

Unseeded are Bosnia & Herz, Estonia, Montenegro & Turkey.

Draw Thursday at 12pm our time.

http://twitter.com/#!/FAIreland




Seems right, Czech Rep have passed B-H based on a win today vs a draw.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 10:10:17 PM
The FAI have tweeted

The seeds are Portugal, Croatia, ROI & Czech Rep.

Unseeded are Bosnia & Herz, Estonia, Montenegro & Turkey.

Draw Thursday at 12pm our time.

http://twitter.com/#!/FAIreland

Estonia or Montenegro I suppose but neither would be a pushover.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: cicfada on October 11, 2011, 10:10:49 PM
According to the UEFA website they have  Turkey above us  by 2 places but the FAI would have done their homework wouldn't they, before they tweeted???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2011, 10:12:23 PM
According to the UEFA website they have  Turkey above us  by 2 places but the FAI would have done their homework wouldn't they, before they tweeted???

Ya would think so but this is the FAI  :D
Maybe UEFA haven't updated after tonights results?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tommysmith on October 11, 2011, 10:13:14 PM
According to the UEFA website they have  Turkey above us  by 2 places but the FAI would have done their homework wouldn't they, before they tweeted???

Ya would think so but this is the FAI  :D
Maybe UEFA haven't updated after tonights results?

They are two ahead in the rankings which is irrelevant in this matter.
Title: Re: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: dec on October 11, 2011, 10:14:52 PM
According to the UEFA website they have  Turkey above us  by 2 places but the FAI would have done their homework wouldn't they, before they tweeted???

Those rankings are old
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: stew on October 11, 2011, 10:17:26 PM
I will believe we are seeded when the Eufa statement comes out, the FAI are useless.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tommysmith on October 11, 2011, 10:18:53 PM
I will believe we are seeded when the Eufa statement comes out, the FAI are useless.

They are correct here i reckon all the talk before the game was that a France draw would let Ireland in as seeds.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Minus15 on October 11, 2011, 10:19:11 PM
The interim rankings were published after the september games. Since then Turkey have Lost one and Won one whilst Ireland have won both of their games. May be enough to lift them above Turkey and into the top seeds!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: SHEEDY on October 11, 2011, 10:21:09 PM
head wrecking stuff.   ???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: Main Street on October 11, 2011, 10:22:51 PM
I told you all that we would be seeded after we beat Armenia.
Faithless good for nothing féckers.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: tommysmith on October 11, 2011, 10:24:26 PM
I told you all that we would be seeded after we beat Armenia.
Faithless good for nothing féckers.

Some still dont believe it !
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
Post by: dec on October 11, 2011, 10:33:34 PM
The site Main Street linked to has been updated as of this evening.

http://www.world-results.net/uefa/ranking.html#2011

Pos                         Country  Now*
===  ==============================  =====
  1                           Spain  43116  Euro 2012 Qualified - Seeding Pot 1
  2                     Netherlands  40860  Euro 2012 Qualified - Seeding Pot 1
---  ------------------------------  -----
  3                         Germany  40446  Euro 2012 Qualified - Seeding Pot 2
  4                           Italy  34357  Euro 2012 Qualified - Seeding Pot 2
  5                         England  33563  Euro 2012 Qualified - Seeding Pot 2
  6                          Russia  33212  Euro 2012 Qualified - Seeding Pot 2
---  ------------------------------  -----
  7                         Croatia  32723  Euro 2012 Playoffs
  8                          Greece  32455  Euro 2012 Qualified - Seeding Pot 3
  9                          Sweden  31675  Euro 2012 Qualified - Seeding Pot 3
 10                         Denmark  31205  Euro 2012 Qualified - Seeding Pot 3
---  ------------------------------  -----
 11                        Portugal  31202  Euro 2012 Playoffs
 12                          France  30508  Euro 2012 Qualified
 13                         Ireland  28203  Euro 2012 Playoffs
 14                         Ukraine  28029  Euro 2012 Qualified - Seeding Pot 1 **
 15                  Czech Republic  27982  Euro 2012 Playoffs
 16                          Serbia  27975
 17                     Switzerland  27745
 18                          Turkey  27601  Euro 2012 Playoffs
 19          Bosnia and Herzegovina  27198  Euro 2012 Playoffs
 20                          Norway  27093
 21                        Slovakia  27034
 22                          Israel  26942
 23                         Hungary  26110
 24                        Slovenia  25643
 25                         Romania  24968
 26                         Finland  24673
 27                        Scotland  24426
 28                          Poland  23806  Euro 2012 Qualified - Seeding Pot 1 **
 29                         Austria  23246
 30                          Latvia  23185
 31                Northern Ireland  22959
 32                         Belarus  22638
 33                         Belgium  22539
 34                        Bulgaria  22189
 35                      Montenegro  21876  Euro 2012 Playoffs
 36                           Wales  21633
 37                         Estonia&nbs