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Title: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on September 24, 2018, 03:14:30 PM
Updated as best I can on 1 October.

Senior Football

QF: 4 Nov. Adare, Newcastlewest, Monaleen, St. Kieran's, Ballylanders, Ballysteen (Limerick) v Killrossanty, The Nire or Ballinacourty (Waterford) in Limerick
QF: 4 Nov. Loughmore-Castleiney, Moyle Rovers, Ardfinnan, or Clonmel Commercials, (Tipperary) v Dr. Crokes, Dingle or Kerins O'Rahilly's (Kerry) in Tipperary

SF: 11 Nov.  (Limerick) or (Waterford) v Ennistymon, St. Joseph's Miltowm-Malbay, Cratloe, or Kilmurry-Ibrickane (Clare)
SF: 11 Nov.  (Tipperary) or (Kerry) v Castlehaven, St. Finbarr's or Carbery Rangers (Cork)

Final: 25 Nov.

Intermediate Football

QF: 3 Nov. Kilrush or Kildysart (Clare) v Kilcummin (Kerry) in Clare
QF: 3 Nov. St Michaels, Eire Óg, Naomh Aban, or Fermoy (Cork) v (Limerick) in Cork

SF: 11 Nov. (Clare) or Kilcummin (Kerry) v (Waterford)
SF: 11 Nov. Borrisokane, Grangemockler-Ballyneale, Golden Kilfeacle, Moyne-Templetuohy or Rockwell Rovers (Tipperary) v (Cork) or (Limerick) in Tipperary or Limerick

Final:  25 Nov.

Junior Football

QF: 10 Nov.  (Tipperary) v Beaufort (Kerry) in Tipperary
QF: 10 Nov.  (Cork) v (Limerick) in Cork

SF: 17 Nov.  (Clare) v (Tipperary) or Beaufort (Kerry) in Clare or Kerry
SF: 17 Nov.  (Cork) or (Limerick) v (Waterford) in Cork or Limerick

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow

Senior Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Abbeyside or Ballygunner (Waterford) v Midleton, (Cork) in Waterford

SF: 4 Nov. Na Piarsaigh, Doon, Kilmallock, Murroe-Boher, Patrickswell or South Liberties (Limerick) v Thurles Sarsfields, Toomevara, Nenagh Éire Óg, or Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) in Limerick
SF: 5 Nov.  (Waterford) or (Cork) v Ballyea, Cratloe, O'Callaghan Mills or Kilmaley (Clare)

Final: 18 Nov

Intermediate Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. (Waterford) v (Limerick) in Waterford
QF: 28 Oct. Lixnaw (Kerry) v Cashel King Cormacs  (Tipperary) in Kerry

SF: 3 Nov. (Waterford) or (Limerick) v (Clare)
SF: 3 Nov. Lixnaw (Kerry) or (Tipperary) v Valley Rovers, Courcey Rovers, Charleville, Fr O'Neills or Kilworth (Cork)

Final: 18 Nov

Junior Hurling

QF: 10 Nov.  Tournafulla or Killeedy (Limerick) v (Kerry) in Limerick
QF: 10 Nov.  (Clare) v Boherlahan-Dualla, or Emly (Tipperary) in Clare

SF: 17 Nov.  (Waterford) v (Limerick) or (Kerry)
SF: 17 Nov.  (Cork) v (Clare) or (Tipperary)

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow

Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on October 01, 2018, 09:36:21 AM
Tipp senior hurling is between Sarsfields, Nenagh, Clonoulty and Toomevara. Cashel in the intermediate as it's Sars second team facing them in the final. Senior football betwen Clonmel Commercials, Moyle Rovers, Loughmore and Ardfinnan.

Midleton into Munster from Cork senior hurling also.

Seems like Crokes were impressive winners yesterday.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on October 01, 2018, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on October 01, 2018, 09:36:21 AM
Tipp senior hurling is between Sarsfields, Nenagh, Clonoulty and Toomevara. Cashel in the intermediate as it's Sars second team facing them in the final. Senior football betwen Clonmel Commercials, Moyle Rovers, Loughmore and Ardfinnan.

Midleton into Munster from Cork senior hurling also.

Seems like Crokes were impressive winners yesterday.

Crokes were very impressive alright, but Legion looked off the pace. Last 4 in Kerry has 3 club teams I think? Dingle, Kerins O'Rahillys and Crokes along with East Kerry.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: themac_23 on October 01, 2018, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 01, 2018, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on October 01, 2018, 09:36:21 AM
Tipp senior hurling is between Sarsfields, Nenagh, Clonoulty and Toomevara. Cashel in the intermediate as it's Sars second team facing them in the final. Senior football betwen Clonmel Commercials, Moyle Rovers, Loughmore and Ardfinnan.

Midleton into Munster from Cork senior hurling also.

Seems like Crokes were impressive winners yesterday.

Crokes were very impressive alright, but Legion looked off the pace. Last 4 in Kerry has 3 club teams I think? Dingle, Kerins O'Rahillys and Crokes along with East Kerry.

what way do the regional sides work in Kerry, are they players made up from junior and intermediate clubs? Can they represent Kerry in Munster?
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on October 01, 2018, 02:25:38 PM
Is this a wind up? :)

The divisional sides in Kerry are made up of clubs who do not/are not entitled to enter the Kerry Senior Club championship. South Kerry, who played yesterday, would be made up of about 8 junior/intermediate clubs.

If a Divisional Side wins the SFC, they CANNOT enter the Munster Club. Kerry has gone through a few variations of how they decide entrants in that case. I believe today it is the winner of the Club Senior championship (a separate competition).
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 01, 2018, 03:42:58 PM
Updated original post today, 1 October.

Any help in filling the gaps will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 01, 2018, 03:52:16 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 01, 2018, 02:25:38 PM
The divisional sides in Kerry are made up of clubs who do not/are not entitled to enter the Kerry Senior Club championship. South Kerry, who played yesterday, would be made up of about 8 junior/intermediate clubs.

If a Divisional Side wins the SFC, they CANNOT enter the Munster Club. Kerry has gone through a few variations of how they decide entrants in that case. I believe today it is the winner of the Club Senior championship (a separate competition).

The part in bold is correct.  The Senior Club winners will represent Kerry if the County Championship is complete and a divisional side has won it. 

If the County Championship is not completed, the longest standing club still in the County Championship plays in the Munster Championship (this happened a few years ago when Killarney Legion played in Munster before losing the County Final later).  I think it was Dingle who won the Senior Club the same year. 

Not sure what would happen if two clubs got to the final and Munster has to be played first.  Dr. Crokes won the Senior Club this year in case anyone needs to know, and they are in the semi-final of the County Championship v Kerins O'Rahilly's club.  Dingle club play divisional side East Kerry in the other semi-final.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: tippabu on October 02, 2018, 01:07:56 PM
Tipp championship semi finals

Football
Commercials v moyle Rovers
Loughmore v ardfinnan

Hurling
Thurles sars v nenagh
Clonoulty v toomevara
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: johnnycool on October 02, 2018, 03:32:10 PM
Quote from: tippabu on October 02, 2018, 01:07:56 PM
Tipp championship semi finals

Football
Commercials v moyle Rovers
Loughmore v ardfinnan

Hurling
Thurles sars v nenagh
Clonoulty v toomevara

Nenagh were up with us during the summer for a weekend and they're fancying their chances at a crack at Sars. Have they a real chance?

Cork Semi-finals featured a divisional side with a bigger playing pool than most counties outside the traditional hurling strongholds and a University with lads playing who are also playing club championships in their own county which I find really strange. I'd say that's why Midleton are already pencilled in for the Munster Championship

Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: outinfront on October 05, 2018, 11:55:02 AM
I'm sure this has been answered somewhere before but going to ask anyway.
Are there 3 championships in Kerry?
- "Club" (clubs only?)
- "County" (clubs and Divisional teams?)
- "Divisional" (Divisional only?)

Is it the winners of County that go into provincial championships?
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on October 05, 2018, 12:08:53 PM
Quote from: outinfront on October 05, 2018, 11:55:02 AM
I'm sure this has been answered somewhere before but going to ask anyway.
Are there 3 championships in Kerry?
- "Club" (clubs only?)
- "County" (clubs and Divisional teams?)
- "Divisional" (Divisional only?)

Is it the winners of County that go into provincial championships?
The County Senior Championship includes the 8 clubs in senior football and the 9 divisional teams.
The Senior Club Championship only involves the 8 senior club teams. The lower adult grades operate as clubs only.
Kerry people can answer better re the divisional championships, they do exist for say North, South Kerry etc. but for all divisions I don't know. Also whether they are open to all clubs in the division is another I'm unsure of. When South Kerry won the county title it was the winner of the divisional championship who had the right to decide the Kerry captaincy.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: outinfront on October 07, 2018, 04:11:52 PM
I really should have read back further there!
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 08, 2018, 05:36:44 AM
Updated 14 October...picture getting clearer 

Senior Football

QF: 4 Nov. Adare or Ballylanders (Limerick) v Killrossanty, The Nire or Ballinacourty (Waterford) in Limerick
QF: 4 Nov. Moyle Rovers or Ardfinnan (Tipperary) v Dr. Crokes or Dingle (Kerry) in Tipperary

SF: 11 Nov.  (Limerick) or (Waterford) v Ennistymon or St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay (Clare)
SF: 11 Nov.  (Tipperary) or (Kerry) v Castlehaven or St. Finbarr's (Cork)

Final: 25 Nov.

Intermediate Football

QF: 3 Nov. Kilrush (Clare) v Kilcummin (Kerry) in Clare
QF: 3 Nov. St Michaels or Fermoy (Cork) v Galbally or Rathkeale (Limerick) in Cork

SF: 11 Nov. (Clare) or (Kerry) v (Waterford)
SF: 11 Nov. Grangemockler-Ballyneale, Golden Kilfeacle, or Moyne-Templetuohy (Tipperary) v (Cork) or (Limerick) in Tipperary or Limerick

Final:  25 Nov.

Junior Football

QF: 10 Nov.  Portroe, Ballylooby-Castlegrace, Cappawhite or Mullinahone (Tipperary) v Beaufort (Kerry) in Tipperary
QF: 10 Nov.  (Cork) v (Limerick) in Cork

SF: 17 Nov.  Michael Cusacks (Clare) v (Tipperary) or (Kerry) in Clare or Kerry
SF: 17 Nov.  (Cork) or (Limerick) v (Waterford) in Cork or Limerick

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow

Senior Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Ballygunner (Waterford) v Midleton (Cork) in Waterford

SF: 4 Nov. Na Piarsaigh or Doon (Limerick) v Nenagh Éire Óg or Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) in Limerick
SF: 5 Nov.  Ballygunner (Waterford) or Midleton (Cork) v Ballyea or Cratloe (Clare)

Final: 18 Nov

Intermediate Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Clonea (Waterford) v Bruff or Garryspillane (Limerick) in Waterford
QF: 28 Oct. Lixnaw (Kerry) v Cashel King Cormacs  (Tipperary) in Kerry

SF: 3 Nov. (Waterford) or (Limerick) v Feakle or Tubber (Clare)
SF: 3 Nov. Lixnaw (Kerry) or (Tipperary) v Courcey Rovers or Charleville (Cork)

Final: 18 Nov

Junior Hurling

QF: 10 Nov.  Tournafulla or Killeedy (Limerick) v (Kerry) in Limerick
QF: 10 Nov.  (Clare) v Boherlahan-Dualla or Skeheenarinky (Tipperary) in Clare

SF: 17 Nov.  Ballinameela (Waterford) v (Limerick) or (Kerry)
SF: 17 Nov. (Cork) v (Clare) or (Tipperary)

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on October 08, 2018, 08:59:19 AM
Sars beat in the Tipp hurling. Nenagh v Clonoulty Rossmore in the final.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on October 12, 2018, 07:25:30 PM
‎Tickets at €25 for Sunday's Cork hurling final a little pricey?
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 14, 2018, 11:07:29 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on October 08, 2018, 05:36:44 AM
Updated 14 October...picture getting clearer 

Senior Football

QF: 4 Nov. Adare or Ballylanders (Limerick) v Killrossanty, The Nire or Ballinacourty (Waterford) in Limerick
QF: 4 Nov. Moyle Rovers or Ardfinnan (Tipperary) v Dr. Crokes or Dingle (Kerry) in Tipperary

SF: 11 Nov.  (Limerick) or (Waterford) v Ennistymon or St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay (Clare)
SF: 11 Nov.  (Tipperary) or (Kerry) v Castlehaven or St. Finbarr's (Cork)

Final: 25 Nov.

Intermediate Football

QF: 3 Nov. Kilrush (Clare) v Kilcummin (Kerry) in Clare
QF: 3 Nov. St Michaels or Fermoy (Cork) v Galbally or Rathkeale (Limerick) in Cork

SF: 11 Nov. (Clare) or (Kerry) v (Waterford)
SF: 11 Nov. Grangemockler-Ballyneale, Golden Kilfeacle, or Moyne-Templetuohy (Tipperary) v (Cork) or (Limerick) in Tipperary or Limerick

Final:  25 Nov.

Junior Football

QF: 10 Nov.  Portroe, Ballylooby-Castlegrace, Cappawhite or Mullinahone (Tipperary) v Beaufort (Kerry) in Tipperary
QF: 10 Nov.  (Cork) v (Limerick) in Cork

SF: 17 Nov.  Michael Cusacks (Clare) v (Tipperary) or (Kerry) in Clare or Kerry
SF: 17 Nov.  (Cork) or (Limerick) v (Waterford) in Cork or Limerick

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow

Senior Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Ballygunner (Waterford) v Midleton (Cork) in Waterford

SF: 4 Nov. Na Piarsaigh or Doon (Limerick) v Nenagh Éire Óg or Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) in Limerick
SF: 5 Nov.  Ballygunner (Waterford) or Midleton (Cork) v Ballyea or Cratloe (Clare)

Final: 18 Nov

Intermediate Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Clonea (Waterford) v Bruff or Garryspillane (Limerick) in Waterford
QF: 28 Oct. Lixnaw (Kerry) v Cashel King Cormacs  (Tipperary) in Kerry

SF: 3 Nov. (Waterford) or (Limerick) v Feakle or Tubber (Clare)
SF: 3 Nov. Lixnaw (Kerry) or (Tipperary) v Courcey Rovers or Charleville (Cork)

Final: 18 Nov

Junior Hurling

QF: 10 Nov.  Tournafulla or Killeedy (Limerick) v (Kerry) in Limerick
QF: 10 Nov.  (Clare) v Boherlahan-Dualla or Skeheenarinky (Tipperary) in Clare

SF: 17 Nov.  Ballinameela (Waterford) v (Limerick) or (Kerry)
SF: 17 Nov. (Cork) v (Clare) or (Tipperary)

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: johnnycool on October 15, 2018, 03:24:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 12, 2018, 07:25:30 PM
‎Tickets at €25 for Sunday's Cork hurling final a little pricey?

Over 10K at it, but not sure if that is a good or bad attendance for a Cork Club hurling final with no city team involved at senior.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on October 15, 2018, 03:26:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 12, 2018, 07:25:30 PM
‎Tickets at €25 for Sunday's Cork hurling final a little pricey?

€20 is the baseline price for county finals.  But U16s are free, which is great. €25 seems pricey alright, but I suppose the Pairc won't pay for itself otherwise.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: westbound on October 15, 2018, 04:34:19 PM
€15 into Roscommon county final yesterday
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 21, 2018, 07:15:08 PM
27 October Update showing Cork junior champions and progress in Waterford.

Senior Football

QF: 4 Nov. Adare (Limerick) v Killrossanty or The Nire (Waterford) in Limerick
QF: 4 Nov. Moyle Rovers or Ardfinnan (Tipperary) v Dr. Crokes or Dingle (Kerry) in Tipperary

SF: 11 Nov.  (Limerick) or (Waterford) v Ennistymon or St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay (Clare)
SF: 11 Nov.  (Tipperary) or (Kerry) v St. Finbarr's (Cork)

Final: 25 Nov.

Intermediate Football

QF: 3 Nov. Kilrush (Clare) v Kilcummin (Kerry) in Clare
QF: 3 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) v Galbally or Rathkeale (Limerick) in Cork

SF: 11 Nov. (Clare) or (Kerry) v Kilmacthomas, Modeligo or Ballinameela (Waterford)
SF: 11 Nov. Golden Kilfeacle or Moyne-Templetuohy (Tipperary) v (Cork) or (Limerick) in Tipperary or Limerick

Final:  25 Nov.

Junior Football

QF: 10 Nov.  Portroe, Ballylooby-Castlegrace, Cappawhite or Mullinahone (Tipperary) v Beaufort (Kerry) in Tipperary
QF: 10 Nov.  Dromtarriffe  (Cork) v Cappamore or Kildimo (Limerick) in Cork

SF: 17 Nov.  Michael Cusacks (Clare) v (Tipperary) or (Kerry) in Clare or Kerry
SF: 17 Nov.  (Cork) or (Limerick) v Ferrybank, Mount Sion or Shamrocks (Waterford) in Cork or Limerick

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow

Senior Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Ballygunner (Waterford) v Midleton (Cork) in Waterford

SF: 4 Nov. Na Piarsaigh or Doon (Limerick) v Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) in Limerick
SF: 5 Nov.  Ballygunner (Waterford) or Midleton (Cork) v Ballyea (Clare)

Final: 18 Nov

Intermediate Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Clonea (Waterford) v Garryspillane (Limerick) in Waterford
QF: 28 Oct. Lixnaw (Kerry) v Cashel King Cormacs (Tipperary) in Kerry

SF: 3 Nov. (Waterford) or (Limerick) v Feakle (Clare)
SF: 3 Nov. Lixnaw (Kerry) or (Tipperary) v Courcey Rovers or Charleville (Cork)

Final: 18 Nov

Junior Hurling

QF: 10 Nov.  Tournafulla (Limerick) v Kilgarvan (Kerry) in Limerick
QF: 10 Nov.  Ogonnelloe (Clare) v Boherlahan-Dualla or Skeheenarinky (Tipperary) in Clare

SF: 17 Nov.  Ballinameela (Waterford) v (Limerick) or (Kerry)
SF: 17 Nov.  Cloughduv (Cork) v (Clare) or (Tipperary)

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: waterfordlad on October 27, 2018, 02:37:01 PM
Kilmacthomas won the East intermediate football in Waterford last night and play winners of today's West final Ballinameela or Modeligo in county final presumably next weekend.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 28, 2018, 06:32:50 PM
Update 28 October.

Edit: Waterford Football final decided tonight, 6pm throw in.

Senior Football

QF: 4 Nov. Adare (Limerick) v The Nire (Waterford) in Limerick Gaelic Grounds 3:30pm
QF: 4 Nov. Moyle Rovers (Tipperary) v Dr. Crokes (Kerry) in Tipperary

SF: 11 Nov.  (Limerick) or (Waterford) v St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay (Clare)
SF: 11 Nov.  (Tipperary) or (Kerry) v St. Finbarr's (Cork)

Final: 25 Nov.

Intermediate Football

QF: 3 Nov. Kilrush (Clare) v Kilcummin (Kerry) in Kilrush 1:30pm
QF: 3 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) v Galbally (Limerick) in Cork in Fermoy 1:30pm

SF: 11 Nov. (Clare) or (Kerry) v Kilmacthomas or Modeligo (Waterford)
SF: 11 Nov. Moyne-Templetuohy (Tipperary) v (Cork) or (Limerick) in Tipperary or Limerick

Final:  25 Nov.

Junior Football

QF: 10 Nov.  Ballylooby-Castlegrace (Tipperary) v Beaufort (Kerry) in Tipperary
QF: 10 Nov.  Dromtarriffe (Cork) v Kildimo-Pallaskenry (Limerick) in Cork

SF: 17 Nov.  Michael Cusacks (Clare) v (Tipperary) or (Kerry) in Clare or Kerry
SF: 17 Nov.  (Cork) or (Limerick) v Ferrybank, Mount Sion, or Shamrocks (Waterford) in Cork or Limerick

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow

Senior Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Ballygunner (Waterford) 1-18 v Midleton (Cork) 2-13 in Waterford

SF: 4 Nov. Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) v Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) in Limerick Gaelic Grounds 1pm
SF: 5 Nov. Ballygunner (Waterford) v Ballyea (Clare)

Final: 18 Nov

Intermediate Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Clonea (Waterford) 1-25 v Garryspillane (Limerick) 1-10 in Waterford
QF: 28 Oct. Lixnaw (Kerry) 1-16 v Cashel King Cormacs (Tipperary) 1-13 in Kerry

SF: 3 Nov. Clonea (Waterford) v Feakle (Clare) in Waterford
SF: 3 Nov. Lixnaw (Kerry) v Courcey Rovers or Charleville (Cork) in Kerry

Final: 18 Nov

Junior Hurling

QF: 10 Nov.  Tournafulla (Limerick) v Kilgarvan (Kerry) in Tournafulla 1:30pm
QF: 10 Nov.  Ogonnelloe (Clare) v Boherlahan-Dualla or Skeheenarinky (Tipperary) in Clare

SF: 17 Nov.  Ballinameela (Waterford) v (Limerick) or (Kerry)
SF: 17 Nov.  Cloughduv or Russell Rovers (Cork) v (Clare) or (Tipperary)

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 04, 2018, 06:31:28 PM
Update 4 November.

Edit for venue and times for next weekend..

Senior Football

QF: 4 Nov. The Nire (Waterford) 1-18 Adare (Limerick) 0-12
QF: 4 Nov. Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 3-15 Moyle Rovers (Tipperary) 0-8

SF: 11 Nov.  The Nire (Waterford) v St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay (Clare) in Dungarvan 1:30pm
SF: 11 Nov.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) v St. Finbarr's (Cork) in Lewis Road, Killarney 1:30pm

Final: 25 Nov.

Intermediate Football

QF: 3 Nov. Kilcummin (Kerry) 0-10 Kilrush (Clare) 0-7
QF: 3 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) 4-9 Galbally (Limerick) 0-6

SF: 11 Nov. Kilcummin (Kerry) v Kilmacthomas (Waterford) in Kilcummin 1:30pm
SF: 11 Nov. Moyne-Templetuohy (Tipperary) v Fermoy (Cork)  in Templetuohy 1:30pm

Final:  25 Nov.

Junior Football

QF: 10 Nov.  Ballylooby-Castlegrace (Tipperary) v Beaufort (Kerry) in Cahir 1:30pm
QF: 10 Nov.  Dromtarriffe (Cork) v Kildimo-Pallaskenry (Limerick) in Mallow 1:00pm

SF: 17 Nov.  Michael Cusacks (Clare) v (Tipperary) or (Kerry) in Clare or Kerry
SF: 17 Nov.  (Cork) or (Limerick) v Mount Sion or Shamrocks (Waterford) in Cork or Limerick

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow

Senior Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Ballygunner (Waterford) 1-18 Midleton (Cork) 1-13

SF: 4 Nov. Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 3-22 Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) 0-13
SF: 4 Nov. Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-26 Ballyea (Clare) 2-23 AET

Final: 18 Nov. Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) v Ballygunner (Waterford)

Intermediate Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Clonea (Waterford) 1-25 Garryspillane (Limerick) 1-10
QF: 28 Oct. Lixnaw (Kerry) 1-16 Cashel King Cormacs (Tipperary) 1-13 

SF: 3 Nov. Feakle (Clare) 5-15 Clonea (Waterford) 2-15
SF: 3 Nov. Charleville (Cork) 1-17 Lixnaw (Kerry) 0-11

Final: 18 Nov. Feakle (Clare) v Charleville (Cork)

Junior Hurling

QF: 10 Nov. Tournafulla (Limerick) v Kilgarvan (Kerry) in Tournafulla 1:30pm
QF: 10 Nov. Boherlahan-Dualla (Tipperary) w/o Clare scr.

SF: 17 Nov.  Ballinameela (Waterford) v (Limerick) or (Kerry)
SF: 17 Nov.  Boherlahan-Dualla (Tipperary) v Cloughduv in Tipperary venue

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Laoiseabu on November 06, 2018, 01:44:19 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if The Nire got to the final . They have Milltown Malbay next
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: shark on November 06, 2018, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: Laoiseabu on November 06, 2018, 01:44:19 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if The Nire got to the final . They have Milltown Malbay next

The Nire are 2 point favourites on PP - so you're not the only one. Eoin Cleary could beat them by himself though.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 11, 2018, 07:30:02 PM
11 Nov update


Senior Football

QF: 4 Nov. The Nire (Waterford) 1-18 Adare (Limerick) 0-12
QF: 4 Nov. Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 3-15 Moyle Rovers (Tipperary) 0-8

SF: 11 Nov.  St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay 2-11 The Nire (Waterford) 0-9
SF: 11 Nov.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 5-20 St. Finbarr's (Cork) 1-11

Final: 25 Nov. Dr. Crokes (Kerry) v St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay

Intermediate Football

QF: 3 Nov. Kilcummin (Kerry) 0-10 Kilrush (Clare) 0-7
QF: 3 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) 4-9 Galbally (Limerick) 0-6

SF: 11 Nov. Kilcummin (Kerry) 2-17 Kilmacthomas (Waterford) 0-1
SF: 11 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) 2-6 Moyne-Templetuohy (Tipperary) 0-8

Final:  25 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) v Kilcummin (Kerry)

Junior Football

QF: 10 Nov.  Beaufort (Kerry) 5-16 Ballylooby-Castlegrace (Tipperary) 1-9
QF: 10 Nov.  Dromtarriffe (Cork) 2-10 Kildimo-Pallaskenry (Limerick) 1-7

SF: 17 Nov.  Beaufort (Kerry) v Michael Cusacks (Clare)) in Kerry
SF: 17 Nov.  Dromtarriffe (Cork) v Mount Sion (Waterford) in Mallow 1:30pm

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow

Senior Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Ballygunner (Waterford) 1-18 Midleton (Cork) 1-13

SF: 4 Nov. Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 3-22 Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) 0-13 1pm
SF: 4 Nov. Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-26 Ballyea (Clare) 2-23 AET

Final: 18 Nov Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) v Ballygunner (Waterford) in Thurles

Intermediate Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Clonea (Waterford) 1-25 Garryspillane (Limerick) 1-10
QF: 28 Oct. Lixnaw (Kerry) 1-16 Cashel King Cormacs (Tipperary) 1-13 

SF: 3 Nov. Feakle (Clare) 5-15 Clonea (Waterford) 2-15
SF: 3 Nov. Charleville (Cork) 1-17 Lixnaw (Kerry) 0-11

Final: 18 Nov Feakle (Clare) v Charleville (Cork) in Limerick 1:30pm

Junior Hurling

QF: 10 Nov. Tournafulla (Limerick) 1-22 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 2-9
QF: 10 Nov. Boherlahan-Dualla (Tipperary) w/o Clare scr.

SF: 17 Nov.  Ballinameela (Waterford) v Tournafulla (Limerick) in Dungarvan 1:30pm
SF: 17 Nov.  Boherlahan-Dualla (Tipperary) v Cloughduv in Tipperary venue

Final: 2 Dec. in Mallow
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 11, 2018, 07:34:38 PM
The 3 Kerry clubs win by 21, 22 and 19 points...impressive.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on November 11, 2018, 08:11:14 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 11, 2018, 07:34:38 PM
The 3 Kerry clubs win by 21, 22 and 19 points...impressive.

There is a caveat with Kerry Intermediate and Junior teams. They are really Senior B and Intermediate B teams respectively when you take into account there are only 8 Senior teams in Kerry.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 11, 2018, 08:48:24 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 11, 2018, 08:11:14 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 11, 2018, 07:34:38 PM
The 3 Kerry clubs win by 21, 22 and 19 points...impressive.

There is a caveat with Kerry Intermediate and Junior teams. They are really Senior B and Intermediate B teams respectively when you take into account there are only 8 Senior teams in Kerry.

Kerry have 8 senior, 16 intermediate and 16 premier junior teams.

So the intermediate champions are the 9th best club in the county and the junior champions are 25th.

League position has nothing to do with the grade a club plays in, you can only move from premier junior to intermediate by winning the premier junior championship...but out of curiosity I checked where the teams playing today finished in this year's county league.  There are 12 teams in each of the top 4 divisions.

Dr. Crokes finished top of Div 1.

Intermediate champions Kilcummin finished 2nd in Div 2, 14th overall

Junior champions Beaufort finished 10th in Div 1.

Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: spuds on November 11, 2018, 10:57:50 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 11, 2018, 07:34:38 PM
The 3 Kerry clubs win by 21, 22 and 19 points...impressive.
10 Nov. Tournafulla (Limerick) 1-22 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 2-9
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: johnnycool on November 12, 2018, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 11, 2018, 07:34:38 PM
The 3 Kerry clubs win by 21, 22 and 19 points...impressive.

All within a stones throw from Killarney town, I'd say there's no more than 5 to 6 Km between them.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: JoG2 on November 12, 2018, 03:22:46 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 11, 2018, 08:48:24 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 11, 2018, 08:11:14 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 11, 2018, 07:34:38 PM
The 3 Kerry clubs win by 21, 22 and 19 points...impressive.

There is a caveat with Kerry Intermediate and Junior teams. They are really Senior B and Intermediate B teams respectively when you take into account there are only 8 Senior teams in Kerry.

Kerry have 8 senior, 16 intermediate and 16 premier junior teams.

So the intermediate champions are the 9th best club in the county and the junior champions are 25th.

League position has nothing to do with the grade a club plays in, you can only move from premier junior to intermediate by winning the premier junior championship...but out of curiosity I checked where the teams playing today finished in this year's county league.  There are 12 teams in each of the top 4 divisions.

Dr. Crokes finished top of Div 1.

Intermediate champions Kilcummin finished 2nd in Div 2, 14th overall

Junior champions Beaufort finished 10th in Div 1.

That's mad Ted. These guys finished 1 and 2 points behind Dingle and An Ghaeltacht in the Kerry Senior Div 1 league and play junior championship. That's like Ballinascreen playing in the Derry Junior Championship. Crazy
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 12, 2018, 08:12:20 PM
League and championship are different.  County players play very few, if any, league games, which puts a big asterisk on a club's league position if they have a few county men.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2018, 09:48:17 PM
Just seeing highlights on tg4. Cork club football must not be good at the minute.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on November 12, 2018, 10:59:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 12, 2018, 09:48:17 PM
Just seeing highlights on tg4. Cork club football must not be good at the minute.

Football at all levels in Cork is not in a good place - by rights Cork should be the natural number 2 to Dublin but decades of mismanagement by the county board have meant Cork are miles off the pace.


Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: JoG2 on November 12, 2018, 11:01:40 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 12, 2018, 08:12:20 PM
League and championship are different.  County players play very few, if any, league games, which puts a big asterisk on a club's league position if they have a few county men.

A few County men down, but you're still talking about div 1 teams playing at div 1 level, conditioned to play at that level and speed. Then playing div 3 junior teams from other counties.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 12, 2018, 11:15:05 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 12, 2018, 11:01:40 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 12, 2018, 08:12:20 PM
League and championship are different.  County players play very few, if any, league games, which puts a big asterisk on a club's league position if they have a few county men.

A few County men down, but you're still talking about div 1 teams playing at div 1 level, conditioned to play at that level and speed. Then playing div 3 junior teams from other counties.

True.  The Kerry system of only 8 senior clubs seems to be the issue, along with mandatory relegation if bottom of championship level.  A lot of counties don't have any real relegation.



It would be interesting to see where county intermediate and junior champions rank in their own county leagues.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on November 12, 2018, 11:25:40 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on November 12, 2018, 10:59:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 12, 2018, 09:48:17 PM
Just seeing highlights on tg4. Cork club football must not be good at the minute.

Football at all levels in Cork is not in a good place - by rights Cork should be the natural number 2 to Dublin but decades of mismanagement by the county board have meant Cork are miles off the pace.
All Cork CB care about is th'oul hurley stuff.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on November 12, 2018, 11:27:19 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 12, 2018, 11:15:05 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 12, 2018, 11:01:40 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 12, 2018, 08:12:20 PM
League and championship are different.  County players play very few, if any, league games, which puts a big asterisk on a club's league position if they have a few county men.

A few County men down, but you're still talking about div 1 teams playing at div 1 level, conditioned to play at that level and speed. Then playing div 3 junior teams from other counties.

True.  The Kerry system of only 8 senior clubs seems to be the issue, along with mandatory relegation if bottom of championship level.  A lot of counties don't have any real relegation.



It would be interesting to see where county intermediate and junior champions rank in their own county leagues.

I just can't understand why more counties don't adopt a similar setup to the one Kerry have.

As far as I know the current system was in place before the All-Ireland Club Intermediate and Junior competitions started and even then the divisional structure was always mentioned as a factor as to why Kerry intercounty team were so successful.

Then the All-Ireland Club Intermediate and Junior competitions started and Kerry clubs have had a very strong (if not the strongest) record in those competitions adding even more evidence that the Kerry structures were the best/among the best.

It just seems like madness to me that a whole raft of other counties haven't tried to adopt a system as close to the Kerry one as possible.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on November 12, 2018, 11:30:57 PM
Mayo

Senior Champions Ballintubber finished 7th in Division One

Intermediate Champions Belmullet 4th in Division Two

Junior Champions Balla 10th in Division Two

Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on November 12, 2018, 11:31:09 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 12, 2018, 11:25:40 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on November 12, 2018, 10:59:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 12, 2018, 09:48:17 PM
Just seeing highlights on tg4. Cork club football must not be good at the minute.

Football at all levels in Cork is not in a good place - by rights Cork should be the natural number 2 to Dublin but decades of mismanagement by the county board have meant Cork are miles off the pace.
All Cork CB care about is th'oul hurley stuff.

Yup and they have even done a fairly miserable job at the hurling too.

The results of the Cork lady footballers and the Cork camogie players really shows up just how rancid the efforts of the Cork County Board have been over the last 20/30 years.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 17, 2018, 06:20:41 PM
17 Nov Update. Junior semi-finals today in both codes, with hurling senior and intermediate finals tomorrow.

Senior Football

QF: 4 Nov. The Nire (Waterford) 1-18 Adare (Limerick) 0-12
QF: 4 Nov. Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 3-15 Moyle Rovers (Tipperary) 0-8

SF: 11 Nov.  St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay 2-11 The Nire (Waterford) 0-9
SF: 11 Nov.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 5-20 St. Finbarr's (Cork) 1-11

Final: 25 Nov. Dr. Crokes (Kerry) v St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay

Intermediate Football

QF: 3 Nov. Kilcummin (Kerry) 0-10 Kilrush (Clare) 0-7
QF: 3 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) 4-9 Galbally (Limerick) 0-6

SF: 11 Nov. Kilcummin (Kerry) 2-17 Kilmacthomas (Waterford) 0-1
SF: 11 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) 2-6 Moyne-Templetuohy (Tipperary) 0-8

Final:  25 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) v Kilcummin (Kerry)

Junior Football

QF: 10 Nov.  Beaufort (Kerry) 5-16 Ballylooby-Castlegrace (Tipperary) 1-9
QF: 10 Nov.  Dromtarriffe (Cork) 2-10 Kildimo-Pallaskenry (Limerick) 1-7

SF: 17 Nov.  Beaufort (Kerry) 5-23 Michael Cusacks (Clare) 0-4
SF: 17 Nov.  Dromtarriffe (Cork) 2-16 Mount Sion (Waterford) 0-10

Final: 2 Dec. Beaufort (Kerry) v Dromtarriffe (Cork) in Mallow

Senior Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Ballygunner (Waterford) 1-18 Midleton (Cork) 1-13

SF: 4 Nov. Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 3-22 Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) 0-13 1pm
SF: 4 Nov. Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-26 Ballyea (Clare) 2-23 AET

Final: 18 Nov Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) v Ballygunner (Waterford) in Thurles

Intermediate Hurling

QF: 28 Oct. Clonea (Waterford) 1-25 Garryspillane (Limerick) 1-10
QF: 28 Oct. Lixnaw (Kerry) 1-16 Cashel King Cormacs (Tipperary) 1-13 

SF: 3 Nov. Feakle (Clare) 5-15 Clonea (Waterford) 2-15
SF: 3 Nov. Charleville (Cork) 1-17 Lixnaw (Kerry) 0-11

Final: 18 Nov Feakle (Clare) v Charleville (Cork) in Limerick 1:30pm

Junior Hurling

QF: 10 Nov. Tournafulla (Limerick) 1-22 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 2-9
QF: 10 Nov. Boherlahan-Dualla (Tipperary) w/o Clare scr.

SF: 17 Nov.  Ballinameela (Waterford) 1-15 Tournafulla (Limerick) 0-14
SF: 17 Nov.  Cloughduv (Cork)1-16 Boherlahan-Dualla (Tipperary) 0-12

Final: 2 Dec. Cloughduv (Cork) v Ballinameela (Waterford) in Mallow

Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on November 17, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I see the Kerry Intermediate (Senior B) and Junior (Intermediate B) Champions are enjoying their cremation of their respective grades in Munster.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on November 17, 2018, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 17, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I see the Kerry Intermediate (Senior B) and Junior (Intermediate B) Champions are enjoying their cremation of their respective grades in Munster.
There is a huge disparity given how Kerry organise their championships alright, and in fairness to Cork they honourably send forward their junior champions to the junior grade and not the intermediate champions.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 17, 2018, 08:51:11 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on November 17, 2018, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 17, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I see the Kerry Intermediate (Senior B) and Junior (Intermediate B) Champions are enjoying their cremation of their respective grades in Munster.
There is a huge disparity given how Kerry organise their championships alright, and in fairness to Cork they honourably send forward their junior champions to the junior grade and not the intermediate champions.

Who sends their intermediate champions to junior grade?
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on November 17, 2018, 09:02:52 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 17, 2018, 08:51:11 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on November 17, 2018, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 17, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I see the Kerry Intermediate (Senior B) and Junior (Intermediate B) Champions are enjoying their cremation of their respective grades in Munster.
There is a huge disparity given how Kerry organise their championships alright, and in fairness to Cork they honourably send forward their junior champions to the junior grade and not the intermediate champions.

Who sends their intermediate champions to junior grade?

Britain
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on November 17, 2018, 09:26:57 PM
Oh yeah, and Kerry go half way to sending their Senior and Intermediate Champions into the Intermediate and Junior Munster Championships respectively!
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on November 17, 2018, 10:02:19 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 17, 2018, 08:51:11 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on November 17, 2018, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 17, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I see the Kerry Intermediate (Senior B) and Junior (Intermediate B) Champions are enjoying their cremation of their respective grades in Munster.
There is a huge disparity given how Kerry organise their championships alright, and in fairness to Cork they honourably send forward their junior champions to the junior grade and not the intermediate champions.

Who sends their intermediate champions to junior grade?
AIB Leinster Club Junior Football Championship 2018

Senior – Europe
Intermediate Champions – Kilkenny & Offaly
Intermediate Runners Up – Longford
Intermediate "A" Champions – Wexford
Junior Champions – Remaining Counties

In fairness it's more in the fact that junior is the fourth tier in Cork whereas the rest of Munster are the third tier, and Kerry's structure means it's a very good team by the province's standards. But they're not really doing anything wrong. There's a few counties taking liberties with it - I see Laois and Offaly send their Senior B hurling champions into Leinster intermediate and their intermediate champions into junior, as Wexford do with their Intermediate 'A' champions. Dublin have a playoff which often sees their Senior B winners in the intermediate hurling also.

It's up to each county to configure its structures to suit its club scene. Some have too many teams at senior and that has a knock-on effect at the lower grades, we used to have 16 which in a county of 23/24 clubs was madness. I'd say Mayo and Tyrone in football, and Kilkenny in hurling, have it well balanced of the lot with usually competitive teams at every grade.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 17, 2018, 10:56:51 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on November 17, 2018, 10:02:19 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 17, 2018, 08:51:11 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on November 17, 2018, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 17, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I see the Kerry Intermediate (Senior B) and Junior (Intermediate B) Champions are enjoying their cremation of their respective grades in Munster.
There is a huge disparity given how Kerry organise their championships alright, and in fairness to Cork they honourably send forward their junior champions to the junior grade and not the intermediate champions.

Who sends their intermediate champions to junior grade?
AIB Leinster Club Junior Football Championship 2018

Senior – Europe
Intermediate Champions – Kilkenny & Offaly
Intermediate Runners Up – Longford
Intermediate "A" Champions – Wexford
Junior Champions – Remaining Counties

In fairness it's more in the fact that junior is the fourth tier in Cork whereas the rest of Munster are the third tier, and Kerry's structure means it's a very good team by the province's standards. But they're not really doing anything wrong. There's a few counties taking liberties with it - I see Laois and Offaly send their Senior B hurling champions into Leinster intermediate and their intermediate champions into junior, as Wexford do with their Intermediate 'A' champions. Dublin have a playoff which often sees their Senior B winners in the intermediate hurling also.

It's up to each county to configure its structures to suit its club scene. Some have too many teams at senior and that has a knock-on effect at the lower grades, we used to have 16 which in a county of 23/24 clubs was madness. I'd say Mayo and Tyrone in football, and Kilkenny in hurling, have it well balanced of the lot with usually competitive teams at every grade.

Kerry hurlers send senior champions into Munster intermediate and intermediate champions into Munster junior.

Having only 8 senior football clubs in Kerry is what really makes their intermediate and junior champions so strong against other counties club who would rank well below the Kerry representatives.  Beaufort, for example, as junior champions rank 25th in Kerry, but are in Division 1 of the county league (finished 10th of 12 teams and were relegated to Div 2 for 2019).  The fact that Beaufort have no county senior panel member means they have a full squad for every league game (bar suspensions and injuries, obviously), which allows for success against clubs with a few county men who play very few if any league games.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 18, 2018, 07:48:50 PM
18 Nov. Update

Edit: 25 Nov Update

Senior Football - 2018 Champions are Dr. Crokes (Kerry)

QF: 4 Nov. The Nire (Waterford) 1-18 Adare (Limerick) 0-12
QF: 4 Nov. Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 3-15 Moyle Rovers (Tipperary) 0-8

SF: 11 Nov.  St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay 2-11 The Nire (Waterford) 0-9
SF: 11 Nov.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 5-20 St. Finbarr's (Cork) 1-11

Final: 25 Nov. Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 1-21 St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay 2-9

Intermediate Football - 2018 Champions are Kilcummin (Kerry)

QF: 3 Nov. Kilcummin (Kerry) 0-10 Kilrush (Clare) 0-7
QF: 3 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) 4-9 Galbally (Limerick) 0-6

SF: 11 Nov. Kilcummin (Kerry) 2-17 Kilmacthomas (Waterford) 0-1
SF: 11 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) 2-6 Moyne-Templetuohy (Tipperary) 0-8

Final:  25 Nov. Kilcummin (Kerry) 1-11 Fermoy (Cork) 1-3

Junior Football

QF: 10 Nov.  Beaufort (Kerry) 5-16 Ballylooby-Castlegrace (Tipperary) 1-9
QF: 10 Nov.  Dromtarriffe (Cork) 2-10 Kildimo-Pallaskenry (Limerick) 1-7

SF: 17 Nov.  Beaufort (Kerry) 5-23 Michael Cusacks (Clare) 0-4
SF: 17 Nov.  Dromtarriffe (Cork) 2-16 Mount Sion (Waterford) 0-10

Final: 2 Dec. Beaufort (Kerry) v Dromtarriffe (Cork) in Mallow 3:30pm

Senior Hurling - 2018 Champions are Ballygunner (Waterford)

QF: 28 Oct. Ballygunner (Waterford) 1-18 Midleton (Cork) 1-13

SF: 4 Nov. Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 3-22 Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) 0-13 1pm
SF: 4 Nov. Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-26 Ballyea (Clare) 2-23 AET

Final: 18 Nov. Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-14 Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 2-8

Intermediate Hurling - 2018 Champions are Charleville (Cork)

QF: 28 Oct. Clonea (Waterford) 1-25 Garryspillane (Limerick) 1-10
QF: 28 Oct. Lixnaw (Kerry) 1-16 Cashel King Cormacs (Tipperary) 1-13 

SF: 3 Nov. Feakle (Clare) 5-15 Clonea (Waterford) 2-15
SF: 3 Nov. Charleville (Cork) 1-17 Lixnaw (Kerry) 0-11

Final: 18 Nov. v Charleville (Cork) 2-20 Feakle (Clare) 1-20

Junior Hurling

QF: 10 Nov. Tournafulla (Limerick) 1-22 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 2-9
QF: 10 Nov. Boherlahan-Dualla (Tipperary) w/o Clare scr.

SF: 17 Nov.  Ballinameela (Waterford) 1-15 Tournafulla (Limerick) 0-14
SF: 17 Nov.  Cloughduv (Cork)1-16 Boherlahan-Dualla (Tipperary) 0-12

Final: 2 Dec. Cloughduv (Cork) v Ballinameela (Waterford) in Mallow 1pm
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 25, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
Previous post edit for 25 Nov update.

Junior hurling and junior football final double-header in Mallow on Sunday next, 2 Dec., will complete the season.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on November 25, 2018, 08:51:58 PM
Was wondering if the Junior and Intermediate Champions from Waterford, Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and even Cork at this stage, decided to pull their respective county Champions out of the Munster Championship. What would the GAA do?
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Gael85 on November 25, 2018, 09:07:04 PM
Did Kevin McCarthy tog for Kilcummin today?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/kerry-football-star-avoids-prison-after-biting-garda-in-drunk-spree-37553632.html
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Gael85 on November 25, 2018, 09:10:51 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on November 12, 2018, 11:27:19 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 12, 2018, 11:15:05 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 12, 2018, 11:01:40 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 12, 2018, 08:12:20 PM
League and championship are different.  County players play very few, if any, league games, which puts a big asterisk on a club's league position if they have a few county men.

A few County men down, but you're still talking about div 1 teams playing at div 1 level, conditioned to play at that level and speed. Then playing div 3 junior teams from other counties.

True.  The Kerry system of only 8 senior clubs seems to be the issue, along with mandatory relegation if bottom of championship level.  A lot of counties don't have any real relegation.



It would be interesting to see where county intermediate and junior champions rank in their own county leagues.

I just can't understand why more counties don't adopt a similar setup to the one Kerry have.

As far as I know the current system was in place before the All-Ireland Club Intermediate and Junior competitions started and even then the divisional structure was always mentioned as a factor as to why Kerry intercounty team were so successful.

Then the All-Ireland Club Intermediate and Junior competitions started and Kerry clubs have had a very strong (if not the strongest) record in those competitions adding even more evidence that the Kerry structures were the best/among the best.

It just seems like madness to me that a whole raft of other counties haven't tried to adopt a system as close to the Kerry one as possible.

Majority of counties and especially in munster are dual counties so would be impossible to apply the kerry setup.Kerry only has 5/6 hurling teams.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Gael85 on November 25, 2018, 09:21:28 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 12, 2018, 11:15:05 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 12, 2018, 11:01:40 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 12, 2018, 08:12:20 PM
League and championship are different.  County players play very few, if any, league games, which puts a big asterisk on a club's league position if they have a few county men.

A few County men down, but you're still talking about div 1 teams playing at div 1 level, conditioned to play at that level and speed. Then playing div 3 junior teams from other counties.



True.  The Kerry system of only 8 senior clubs seems to be the issue, along with mandatory relegation if bottom of championship level.  A lot of counties don't have any real relegation.



It would be interesting to see where county intermediate and junior champions rank in their own county leagues.

Clare intermediate winners Kilrush finished bottom of Division 2
Eire Og won junior championship but as was their second team Michael Cusacks who were runners up represented Clare. Both teams competed in Division 4.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on December 02, 2018, 08:00:28 PM
All over for 2018.  Kerry clubs win all three football titles, while Cork win 2 hurling and Waterford win the senior hurling.

Senior Football - 2018 Champions are Dr. Crokes (Kerry)

QF: 4 Nov. The Nire (Waterford) 1-18 Adare (Limerick) 0-12
QF: 4 Nov. Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 3-15 Moyle Rovers (Tipperary) 0-8

SF: 11 Nov.  St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay 2-11 The Nire (Waterford) 0-9
SF: 11 Nov.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 5-20 St. Finbarr's (Cork) 1-11

Final: 25 Nov. Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 1-21 St. Joseph's Miltown-Malbay 2-9

Intermediate Football - 2018 Champions are Kilcummin (Kerry)

QF: 3 Nov. Kilcummin (Kerry) 0-10 Kilrush (Clare) 0-7
QF: 3 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) 4-9 Galbally (Limerick) 0-6

SF: 11 Nov. Kilcummin (Kerry) 2-17 Kilmacthomas (Waterford) 0-1
SF: 11 Nov. Fermoy (Cork) 2-6 Moyne-Templetuohy (Tipperary) 0-8

Final:  25 Nov. Kilcummin (Kerry) 1-11 Fermoy (Cork) 1-3

Junior Football -2018 Champions are Beaufort (Kerry)

QF: 10 Nov.  Beaufort (Kerry) 5-16 Ballylooby-Castlegrace (Tipperary) 1-9
QF: 10 Nov.  Dromtarriffe (Cork) 2-10 Kildimo-Pallaskenry (Limerick) 1-7

SF: 17 Nov.  Beaufort (Kerry) 5-23 Michael Cusacks (Clare) 0-4
SF: 17 Nov.  Dromtarriffe (Cork) 2-16 Mount Sion (Waterford) 0-10

Final: 2 Dec. Beaufort (Kerry) 2-13 Dromtarriffe (Cork) 2-12 AET

Senior Hurling - 2018 Champions are Ballygunner (Waterford)

QF: 28 Oct. Ballygunner (Waterford) 1-18 Midleton (Cork) 1-13

SF: 4 Nov. Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 3-22 Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) 0-13 1pm
SF: 4 Nov. Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-26 Ballyea (Clare) 2-23 AET

Final: 18 Nov. Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-14 Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 2-8

Intermediate Hurling - 2018 Champions are Charleville (Cork)

QF: 28 Oct. Clonea (Waterford) 1-25 Garryspillane (Limerick) 1-10
QF: 28 Oct. Lixnaw (Kerry) 1-16 Cashel King Cormacs (Tipperary) 1-13

SF: 3 Nov. Feakle (Clare) 5-15 Clonea (Waterford) 2-15
SF: 3 Nov. Charleville (Cork) 1-17 Lixnaw (Kerry) 0-11

Final: 18 Nov. v Charleville (Cork) 2-20 Feakle (Clare) 1-20

Junior Hurling - 2018 Champions are Cloughduv (Cork)

QF: 10 Nov. Tournafulla (Limerick) 1-22 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 2-9
QF: 10 Nov. Boherlahan-Dualla (Tipperary) w/o Clare scr.

SF: 17 Nov.  Ballinameela (Waterford) 1-15 Tournafulla (Limerick) 0-14
SF: 17 Nov.  Cloughduv (Cork)1-16 Boherlahan-Dualla (Tipperary) 0-12

Final: 2 Dec. Cloughduv (Cork) 0-17 Ballinameela (Waterford) 0-11
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on December 04, 2018, 12:43:17 PM
Judging by the odds Kilcummin are a shoe in. In fairness the 9th best team in most counties are playing senior football.

How many clubs in the Cork senior championship?

No wonder Kerry are dominating both the intermediate and junior club championships.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on December 04, 2018, 12:48:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on December 04, 2018, 12:43:17 PM
Judging by the odds Kilcummin are a shoe in. In fairness the 9th best team in most counties are playing senior football.

How many clubs in the Cork senior championship?

No wonder Kerry are dominating both the intermediate and junior club championships.

Look, there are always going to be discrepancies between different counties when it comes to running an AI/Provincial competition with Intermediate and Junior Club. The thing is the Kerry situation is just taking the piss.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: rodney trotter on December 04, 2018, 01:07:56 PM
It's not like it's just 8 teams. They have amalgamations competing too.. Most counties have only really 6 to 8 teams capable of winning a Senior Championship.

It's works for kerry up to other counties to look at their own structures
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: JoG2 on December 04, 2018, 01:39:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 04, 2018, 01:07:56 PM
It's not like it's just 8 teams. They have amalgamations competing too.. Most counties have only really 6 to 8 teams capable of winning a Senior Championship.

It's works for kerry up to other counties to look at their own structures

Why do people keep posting this or something similar? If everyone followed the Kerry structure the AI junior would be a complete sham. Imagine Ballinascreen, Magherafelt etc playing in junior grade in Ulster?
If (I couldn't find the junior semi pairings) the Kerry div 1 (Munster champions) are down to play Red Hughes (Ulster champions), it'll be a hammering match. Surely most counties have all clubs in the lower league/s playing junior, middle league/s in intermediate and top league playing senior?
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 04, 2018, 01:07:56 PM
It's not like it's just 8 teams. They have amalgamations competing too.. Most counties have only really 6 to 8 teams capable of winning a Senior Championship.

It's works for kerry up to other counties to look at their own structures

All the counties it seems run their own set up and thats fine, if it works then grand, but to go into the All Ireland club series, thats were it breaks down, there needs to be a uniform approach to this, were all the counties are doing it the same way, not the Kerry way  ;)

In Antrim, we've a team that was promoted to div 1 this season that play in, and won the Intermediate championship, this club has never won a football trophy before and felt that intermediate was their level, they exceeded all their expectations and have done very well, but, if the policy was in place that div 2 teams play intermedaite then they would have had to play senior!

We've also a div 2 team that will only play senior hurling though, as tradition abd their members wouldnt allow their team to play at that level, regardless of the possible benefits of a run in the All Ireland club.

So it needs to come from Croke
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on December 04, 2018, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 04, 2018, 01:07:56 PM
It's not like it's just 8 teams. They have amalgamations competing too.. Most counties have only really 6 to 8 teams capable of winning a Senior Championship.

It's works for kerry up to other counties to look at their own structures

All the counties it seems run their own set up and thats fine, if it works then grand, but to go into the All Ireland club series, thats were it breaks down, there needs to be a uniform approach to this, were all the counties are doing it the same way, not the Kerry way  ;)

In Antrim, we've a team that was promoted to div 1 this season that play in, and won the Intermediate championship, this club has never won a football trophy before and felt that intermediate was their level, they exceeded all their expectations and have done very well, but, if the policy was in place that div 2 teams play intermedaite then they would have had to play senior!

We've also a div 2 team that will only play senior hurling though, as tradition abd their members wouldnt allow their team to play at that level, regardless of the possible benefits of a run in the All Ireland club.

So it needs to come from Croke

I'd imagine if it was dictated from Croke Park, every county would have club competition structures not that different from Kerry.

From what I've heard Kerry seem to have cut-throat competitive senior, intermediate and junior club championships, where teams have to work hard and perform on the pitch to move up the grades and if they slack off they can quickly find themselves relegated. The intense competition at all levels drives standards.

Even aside from the club All-Ireland competitions, it's clear Kerry's club structure is close to the best (if not the best) in terms of producing footballers for intercounty.

I can sort of understand why dual counties might have issues with fixtures copying Kerry's structures to the same extent but to my mind it's just rank stubborn stupidity by a whole lot of counties (where hurling is less of an issue than in Kerry) not to adopt a similar approach.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Sionnach on December 04, 2018, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on December 04, 2018, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 04, 2018, 01:07:56 PM
It's not like it's just 8 teams. They have amalgamations competing too.. Most counties have only really 6 to 8 teams capable of winning a Senior Championship.

It's works for kerry up to other counties to look at their own structures

All the counties it seems run their own set up and thats fine, if it works then grand, but to go into the All Ireland club series, thats were it breaks down, there needs to be a uniform approach to this, were all the counties are doing it the same way, not the Kerry way  ;)

In Antrim, we've a team that was promoted to div 1 this season that play in, and won the Intermediate championship, this club has never won a football trophy before and felt that intermediate was their level, they exceeded all their expectations and have done very well, but, if the policy was in place that div 2 teams play intermedaite then they would have had to play senior!

We've also a div 2 team that will only play senior hurling though, as tradition abd their members wouldnt allow their team to play at that level, regardless of the possible benefits of a run in the All Ireland club.

So it needs to come from Croke

I'd imagine if it was dictated from Croke Park, every county would have club competition structures not that different from Kerry.

From what I've heard Kerry seem to have cut-throat competitive senior, intermediate and junior club championships, where teams have to work hard and perform on the pitch to move up the grades and if they slack off they can quickly find themselves relegated. The intense competition at all levels drives standards.

Even aside from the club All-Ireland competitions, it's clear Kerry's club structure is close to the best (if not the best) in terms of producing footballers for intercounty.

I can sort of understand why dual counties might have issues with fixtures copying Kerry's structures to the same extent but to my mind it's just rank stubborn stupidity by a whole lot of counties (where hurling is less of an issue than in Kerry) not to adopt a similar approach.

The divisional system also means that all players who are good enough have the chance to play club football at the highest level, regardless of how good their own club's team is.

This is important both at adult and underage level.  In many counties, a good player who comes up through the system playing for a small rural club (a description which applies to the majority of clubs in Kerry tbf) will struggle to make county underage and senior teams unless he is exceptionally talented, and even if he is exceptionally talented it's a hindrance to his development.  In Kerry, a good player can play for his divisional team as well as the club team coming up through the age grades, will develop better through playing at a higher level, and will get the chance to be noticed by county selectors at the various grades. 

The benefits are apparent when you look at Kerry panels and see the number of players who make it from small clubs that compete in the lower echelons.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: JoG2 on December 04, 2018, 06:32:19 PM
Divisional teams is a discussion though for another thread, they don't play in the Munster club championship.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Sionnach on December 04, 2018, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 04, 2018, 06:32:19 PM
Divisional teams is a discussion though for another thread, they don't play in the Munster club championship.

Indeed, but the main reason that Kerry has a small number of clubs in its senior championship is that  the rest of the teams in the competition are divisional sides.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: armaghniac on December 04, 2018, 06:46:03 PM
Quote from: Sionnach on December 04, 2018, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 04, 2018, 06:32:19 PM
Divisional teams is a discussion though for another thread, they don't play in the Munster club championship.

Indeed, but the main reason that Kerry has a small number of clubs in its senior championship is that  the rest of the teams in the competition are divisional sides.

However, this still means that the best intermediate team would be a senior team in another county and so very competitive in the intermediate championship.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2018
Post by: Sionnach on December 04, 2018, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 04, 2018, 06:46:03 PM
Quote from: Sionnach on December 04, 2018, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 04, 2018, 06:32:19 PM
Divisional teams is a discussion though for another thread, they don't play in the Munster club championship.

Indeed, but the main reason that Kerry has a small number of clubs in its senior championship is that  the rest of the teams in the competition are divisional sides.

However, this still means that the best intermediate team would be a senior team in another county and so very competitive in the intermediate championship.

Yes, exactly.  If there was no divisional system, there would be more senior clubs, and the intermediate champions would be a lower-ranked club.  But Kerry are not going to abolish the divisional system, nor should they with all the advantages it has for player development and the county teams.  In fact, I would agree with twohands that more counties should adopt it, especially those that are not dual.