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GAA Discussion / Re: Retirements
« on: July 17, 2018, 07:36:22 PM »
Cork's Colm O'Neill has called it a day. Unsurprising given all his injury woes. 3 cruciates.

Brilliant player. One of the scoring forwards I’ve seen. Either foot, any angle, could win ball.

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General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture
« on: July 17, 2018, 02:03:27 PM »
What did the  2nd Amendment amend?  Any US Constitution scolars out there?  Must have been something pretty odd to make the 2nd Amendment an improvement.

Think the bill of rights (first ten amendments) were added at the time the constitution was originally ratified. Basically filling perceived gaps in rights and protections that had been omitted or not considered in the original document.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ros V Donegal Hyde Park 21/7/18
« on: July 16, 2018, 06:28:08 PM »
I think it still remains to be seen whereabouts Donegal are at. We were hammered by Tyrone and Galway only a year ago, although we have improved dramatically, at least tactically, this year. Roscommon owe their supporters an extremely serious effort here, so Donegal will have to match that intensity. I'd be very happy with a one point win to (presumably) keep our hopes alive for the Tyrone game (if Tyrone beat the Dubs, we are done).

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If anyone fancies some pre-match build-up...

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/gaa-hour-coming-cookstown-tyrone-dublin-preview-168420

The one they did in Letterkenny before the Ulster Final was good crack.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Rule Change Needed to Stop Puke Keep-Ball
« on: July 16, 2018, 05:24:18 PM »
Serious over reaction here. It’s not as if what Dublin did happens all the time. I remember Meath doing it to Kerry in the 2001 AI semi (with 15 mins left) to shouts of “ole”, then Galway returning the favour in that year’s final. I remember Donegal doing it in the 2012 semi to Cork, although Cork managed to finally close down David Walsh, turn it over and score a goal. Kerry did it to us in the 2014 final. But it’s not a common feature of intercounty football and definitely not something warranting knee jerk rule changes.

Nope, that's not what happened.
In both cases, you had a team that was completely out of sight on the scoreboard and were so dominant that the other side couldn't get the ball back.
I'd wager if you looked at the number of scores in the last 10 minutes of either of those games, vs. the number of scores in the last 10 minutes of the game at the weekend, the difference would be clearly illustrated.

Technically you may be correct in that Dublin were focused purely on keeping the ball, but the hand passes and the “oles” were absolutely part of it, especially in that Meath-Kerry semi-final.

Darren Fay had some regrets about the day, interestingly:

http://www.the42.ie/meath-darren-fay-four-kings-1176933-Dec2013/?amp=1

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GAA Discussion / Re: Rule Change Needed to Stop Puke Keep-Ball
« on: July 16, 2018, 01:01:28 PM »
Serious over reaction here. It’s not as if what Dublin did happens all the time. I remember Meath doing it to Kerry in the 2001 AI semi (with 15 mins left) to shouts of “ole”, then Galway returning the favour in that year’s final. I remember Donegal doing it in the 2012 semi to Cork, although Cork managed to finally close down David Walsh, turn it over and score a goal. Kerry did it to us in the 2014 final. But it’s not a common feature of intercounty football and definitely not something warranting knee jerk rule changes.

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Why did they not toss for home colors?

Those two strips were far too alike.

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The difference between Meehan and Keegan as pundits is night and day. Meehan came off as knowledgeable and articulate. Keegan clueless and classless.

How come I knew who wrote this without even looking at the name first?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin V Donegal
« on: July 15, 2018, 01:16:01 PM »
I can’t understand the criticism of Dublin. They are winning the game, the tactic for me was as plain as the nose on your face, keep the ball in the middle and defensive half and draw the defensive team who need the ball to win out and create holes in their defence to attack. Donegal didn’t come looking the ball, they did the exact same thing as Tyrone did in the semi last year, could’ve changed or wouldn’t, so we all blame Dublin. A question if that had of been Kerry, do you think they would have sat back in their defensive shape and refused to press full tilt up the pitch on Dublin, not a chance in hell. Ulster football still is trapped in a negative mindset, Donegal who have without doubt developed their attacking game, like Tyrone don’t seem to grasp that if your behind sitting in a defensive formation waiting for the opposition to be stupid enough to attack in numbers and loose the ball, you will get what Dublin served everytime from a quality team like Dublin. I fully applaud Dublin, it’s Donegal who didn’t go for the game

Ive no issues with what the Dubs did either. We have done it ourselves in matches in recent years, albeit not to THAT extent. Kerry also did it to us in the closing stages of the 2014 final. Like then, I think fatigue may have played a factor yesterday, but teams should push up on the side throwing it around and either force them back, squeezing the space or make them move it longer. You’re losing by four points with five minutes left. There’s no point hoping for a slip up - you have to make it happen.

 I thought Stephen McBrearty made a mistake in not taking an easy point at the start of injury time - bringing it back to three might have made the Dubs a wee bit more nervous about the keep- ball tactics, but hopefully we will learn from it.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin V Donegal
« on: July 14, 2018, 08:32:47 PM »
I’d do the same if I was the Dubs. Nothing wrong with it.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin V Donegal
« on: July 14, 2018, 07:39:54 PM »
This is going to end with a lot of wondering about what might have been. We should at the very least be level. McBrearty would be having a field day here.

Blowing a great opportunity here.

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GAA Discussion / Re: QF Phase 1 predictions
« on: July 13, 2018, 12:37:28 PM »
Dublin by 7
Tyrone by 2
Kildare by 2
Kerry by 5

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin V Donegal
« on: July 12, 2018, 08:16:34 PM »
Has yet man Mullins been dropped completely from Donegal or is he injured?

He’s been injured. Think he is back in training now though.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin V Donegal
« on: July 12, 2018, 04:29:49 PM »
How many of the Donegal team who started the Ulster Final were u21 last year?

Donegal line-up in AI U-21 semi last year (I've bolded those who started or came on in this year's Ulster final):

Donegal: D Rodgers; C Morrison, S McMenamin, B McCole; C Mulligan, D Ó Baoill, E Bán Gallagher; T McClenaghan, J McGee (0-01); M Carroll (0-01), S McBrearty (0-01), M Coyle; L Connor, M Langan (0-03, 2f), J Brennan.
Subs: C Doherty for Coyle (14), N O’Donnell (0-02) for McBrearty (23), E O’Donnell (0-01) for Connors (37), R Carr for Mulligan (42), C McGonagle for McCleneghan (49), McBrearty for O Baoill (54)

Donegal line-up in this year's Ulster final

Donegal: S Patton; P McGrath (0-01), S McMenamin, E Ban Gallagher (1-01); F McGlynn, P Brennan (0-02), R McHugh (1-00); H McFadden, L McLoone; O MacNiallais (0-01), M Langan (0-01), C Thompson (0-03, 1f); P McBrearty (0-01), M Murphy (0-04, 3f), J Brennan (0-01).

Subs: D O Baoill for McBrearty (38), C Ward for P Brennan (55), A Thompson for MacNiallais (60), C Mulligan (0-01) for Langan (63), M McHugh (0-01) for C Thompson (64), D O’Connor (0-01) for J Brennan (67)

From last year's U-21s, Jason McGee played for the seniors also last year, but played only U-20 this year. Niall O'Donnell was with the seniors for this year's league, but played U-20 championship, although there is speculation he could be brought in after McBrearty's injury.

McClenaghan and Stephen McBrearty played a fair bit during this year's league, but I think McBrearty was injured earlier in the championship. Could be in contention for the Super 8s.

Micheal Carroll played U-21 and senior last season, but he has opted out for this summer.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: July 10, 2018, 05:38:23 PM »
We won one game in Division 1 and needed a lad getting sent off for not having a gum-shield in order to do that. We beat 4 teams in Ulster helped by wasteful shooting and eventual throwing in of the towel by our opposition.

There's no doubt that the team have improved but this idea that we are highly likely to finish 2nd in the group is a load of bull.

If McBrearty were fit, I’d fancy us for second. However, even if he was fit, we still have not been tested by a top level team so, strange as it might seem as Ulster champions, there is still an element on not knowing where we are at about us. Probably similar to Tyrone last year. It is very much a case of “to be determined” as to whether we are better than Tyrone and Roscommon, even with Paddy. And with the schedule of the matches, we could easily lose all three. But I suppose you could say that about any “coming” team.

Summary: I don’t know how good Donegal really are or where we rank.

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