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seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/2023/01/21/department-has-placed-school-boards-in-an-impossible-position/

Department has placed school boards in an impossible position
A poisoned chalice when school management becomes challenging and high profile
Sat Jan 21 2023 - 00:10

Sir, – Reflecting on the Wilson Hospital School and Enoch Burke case, there is one thing that is notable and frustrating for me, as a school principal and a volunteer on a school board of management. It is the legal relationship between the school and the teacher, and the complete absence of the Department of Education.

Since boards of management were introduced in our primary schools in 1975, we have the ludicrous arrangement where the Department of Education pays a teacher's salary, and as if by magic is not the employer. The department is never troubled by recruitment, contracts, disciplinary or dismissal cases. That duty falls to the volunteers on the board of management of the school.

Volunteers can only be commended for serving on boards of management and for donating their time so generously and free of charge, all in the interest of the students and communities that they serve.

However, this is a poisoned chalice when school management becomes challenging and high profile, as in this case. The Department of Education will boast in their publications of how board "volunteers have individually and collectively enriched and contributed to the management and operation of our primary schools". Yet officials are in absentia when difficult hearings and decisions arise, offering no presence or support, leaving board of management volunteers to dissect Department of Education circulars for nuances, and the finer procedural details, and ultimately reaching out to engage legal firms.

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Why do we volunteer for boards of management? I wonder if the chairperson who volunteered for a term in the Wilson Hospital School ever imagined that their name would be in every corner of the media this week?

I wonder again, why do we volunteer? Well maybe we should stop, and let the Department of Education, once and for all, step up to their role in Irish education, and become the employer of State teachers, and the manager of schools. While they are at it, they should also become the patron body for all schools and relieve the religious bodies of their agenda, given that the State through the Department of Education finances the running of schools anyhow.

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The Department of Education has placed itself in the incredible position where it pumps money into schools and education, yet cunningly shirks responsibility in key areas of education, by placing it conveniently away from them, into the distant hands of volunteers and religious bodies.

Time for education reform, which will take decades. We need a long-term policy of change, with a commitment that it will remain untouched through government changeovers and new Ministers. – Yours, etc,

DERMOT STANLEY,

Dublin 12.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: trailer on January 23, 2023, 09:30:38 AM
This is a case of two people with mental health issues meeting and the fall out being splashed all over the media.

Yeah - this is definitely the students fault  ::)

Armagh18

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 23, 2023, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 23, 2023, 09:30:38 AM
This is a case of two people with mental health issues meeting and the fall out being splashed all over the media.

Yeah - this is definitely the students fault  ::)
Parents to blame.

trailer

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 23, 2023, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 23, 2023, 09:30:38 AM
This is a case of two people with mental health issues meeting and the fall out being splashed all over the media.

Yeah - this is definitely the students fault  ::)

It / Them / They / Us / Things

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 23, 2023, 03:03:39 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 23, 2023, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 23, 2023, 09:30:38 AM
This is a case of two people with mental health issues meeting and the fall out being splashed all over the media.

Yeah - this is definitely the students fault  ::)
Parents to blame.
Surely there is something taught in the bible about acceptance of others and tolerance?

Maybe only some versions of that work of fiction have that section

Armagh18

Quote from: trailer on January 23, 2023, 03:04:15 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 23, 2023, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 23, 2023, 09:30:38 AM
This is a case of two people with mental health issues meeting and the fall out being splashed all over the media.

Yeah - this is definitely the students fault  ::)

It / Them / They / Us / Things
Mental illness




seafoid

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/0124/1350483-enoch-burke/

Enoch Burke has attended Wilson's Hospital School in Co Westmeath this morning, despite being dismissed from his position at the school last Friday.

He later left the school in Multyfarnham in a garda car and this afternoon was driven away from Mullingar Garda Station by his father.

Gardaí arrived at the school at 11.15am and left at 12.41pm, with Mr Burke in the back of the unmarked car.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

imtommygunn

In other news...

he's back at the school after having been arrested by gardai and released.

knockitdown

Is is da as bad? Driving him into the school this morning. What is he thinking!?

tonto1888

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 23, 2023, 09:14:21 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 23, 2023, 03:04:15 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 23, 2023, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 23, 2023, 09:30:38 AM
This is a case of two people with mental health issues meeting and the fall out being splashed all over the media.

Yeah - this is definitely the students fault  ::)

It / Them / They / Us / Things
Mental illness

That poster definitely has something wrong with them

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2023, 03:16:36 PM
In other news...

he's back at the school after having been arrested by gardai and released.


manfromdelmonte

Looks like some sort of publicity campaign