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#1
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
June 04, 2024, 02:13:10 PM
Is Gaa as a sport stagnating and slowly starting to die out in general , particularly at senior grade ? Seems to be no excitement around leagues and a bit of buzz created 2 months of the year for championship. Much the same happens for county too. Maybe its got to do with the standard of football as in Down I would argue its at its lowest in 15/20 years .
#2
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
May 15, 2024, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Caitlin on May 15, 2024, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: skat man on May 15, 2024, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 15, 2024, 11:44:59 AM
Quote from: skat man on May 15, 2024, 09:35:53 AMwhy would anyone in Down want to become a referee when they seen how our best ref was treated and after all the talk of rigorous investigation its now been brushed under the carpet and why would the county board not hush it when the clubs and current referees stand by and let that happen. 

Not sure it was brushed under the carpet as I think the outcomes were shared with the referees during a meeting at the start of the year.

One of Paul Faloons requests to have all championship referee's mic'd up and recorded is to be introduced this year I believe.



Surely with such a robust investigation being carried out by croke park on behalf of down into how the county board handled the process then all clubs would be privy to the findings of that report? I dont think such a report even exists or any investigation was carried out.
officials are micd up anyway in championship but there isnt enough to go around on big match weekends , and as for recording everything im not sure how that happens without all new gear purchased.

the very fact no one knows exactly whats gone on 7 months later is a disgrace.

i agree completely wobbler, it has to be on coaches and club to enforce

The report findings were shared with our county board rep.

There are two different issues here; the report reflects a sad chapter in our county's history where there were no winners. The recommendations should be implemented and we move on.

Each club has a responsibility to develop referees and , more importantly, develop respect for referees. We can learn from the LGFA; at a game on Saturday one of our players got injured and the ref handled the situation very well, both teams gave and got respect.



what were the findings ?

#3
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
May 15, 2024, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 15, 2024, 11:44:59 AM
Quote from: skat man on May 15, 2024, 09:35:53 AMwhy would anyone in Down want to become a referee when they seen how our best ref was treated and after all the talk of rigorous investigation its now been brushed under the carpet and why would the county board not hush it when the clubs and current referees stand by and let that happen. 

Not sure it was brushed under the carpet as I think the outcomes were shared with the referees during a meeting at the start of the year.

One of Paul Faloons requests to have all championship referee's mic'd up and recorded is to be introduced this year I believe.



Surely with such a robust investigation being carried out by croke park on behalf of down into how the county board handled the process then all clubs would be privy to the findings of that report? I dont think such a report even exists or any investigation was carried out.
officials are micd up anyway in championship but there isnt enough to go around on big match weekends , and as for recording everything im not sure how that happens without all new gear purchased.

the very fact no one knows exactly whats gone on 7 months later is a disgrace.

i agree completely wobbler, it has to be on coaches and club to enforce
#4
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
May 15, 2024, 09:35:53 AM
why would anyone in Down want to become a referee when they seen how our best ref was treated and after all the talk of rigorous investigation its now been brushed under the carpet and why would the county board not hush it when the clubs and current referees stand by and let that happen. 
#5
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
May 05, 2024, 04:47:19 PM
Drumgath must be a decent side to draw with a glenn team on the week county players were all aloowed play.
#6
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 09, 2024, 10:52:17 AM
the Gaa own all club facilities so far as i know . Deeds rest in croke park . a club cannot get a loan without croke parks say so . clubs are only custodians . not saying its right btw but legally i think its the case
#7
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 05, 2024, 01:22:48 PM
Good all round performance after a shaky start. this sunday will show what progress has been made , antrim should have won in newry last year so to go and beat them in belfast this year would be a step forward
#8
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 23, 2024, 02:38:51 PM
i dont think there are clubs you can just say ok lets start there and get them to provide hurling. its the same as anything, its supply and demand , kids love any sport so create a demand by offering summer schemes in 3/4 close proximity clubs and in the local schools maybe you create 3/4 players from each with a passion for taking up hurling , then the idea of your standalone clubs comes into play , very good idea btw.

who funds all this i have no idea but asking non hurling clubs to just start providing it is a non starter in my opinion , the same as it would be for non football teams .
#9
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 23, 2024, 12:42:28 PM
i dont agree on the clubs you suggested as some of them are 1 school clubs with limited numbers going in.

that aside the main issue with hurling though is the lack of appetite for it in clubs that dont provide it. its not like hurling is banned in them clubs , there just isnt an appetite. opening the kids up to the game by bringing it into more schools would be a suggestion because then the players come into clubs looking to play it and clubs maybe facilitate it then .

there is no worry about kids enjoying hurling more , thats evident by the amount of kids who play each code currently . Hurling people have an arrogance over the skill levels and beauty etc of their game and how its somehow better than the football , maybe lose that and people will embrace it more
#10
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 23, 2024, 10:08:14 AM
not opposition to hurling , im sure most like to watch a game . its the reality's of it . most clubs struggle for numbers as is , clubs who only have 1 code are doing what they can to promote their chosen code and even w then some are struggling . what clubs realistically in Down except maybe burren and kilcoo could field a hurling team seperate from the football team.
you wont convince people from either code in clubs with a smaller pick that dual can work , it doesnt , naming a few clubs who have done things in 1 off seasons wont change that. the problems of using the same players for both and burnout/injury , lack of facilities and both teams struggling due to training sessions being disrupted still remain . if you have soloutions to them real issues id be interested to hear .
#11
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 22, 2024, 11:12:30 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 22, 2024, 05:58:31 PMEvery club in Ireland should have a hurling team.

Great advantage.  So many cross over skills but the 'football people' in clubs thinks it a disadvantage.  It's an advantage.

Look at the top Dublin clubs, all dual clubs. Throw in Sleacht NĂ©il, Loughmore Castleiney, Dunloy, Naas and a few Clare clubs etc.  These are just a few.

It's a bit like learning two languages - they complement each other and are of benefit, not, as people think, a disadvantage.


biggest city in ireland has enough players to support dual clubs. In other news water is wet . Sucessfull top level dual clubs are rare for a reason
#12
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 22, 2024, 02:31:09 PM
football clubs probably dont see it in their best interest to promote hurling and it is probably the same in reverese in ards . Are there many succesful senior dual clubs except slaughtneil ?
#13
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 17, 2024, 12:20:35 PM
any players playing in the sigerson who would be adding to the down squad ?
#14
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 07, 2024, 04:10:05 PM
was that downs strongest team available last night or are there players to come in ?
#15
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 03, 2024, 02:08:34 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 03, 2024, 08:27:06 AM
Quote from: ck on January 03, 2024, 08:08:50 AM
Quote from: Johnnysboys on January 02, 2024, 10:57:50 PM[/quote
I see Johnny's lad is getting started early this year. Name a manager that regularly names a correct starting team. I hate the practice but they are all doing it.

Just because they all do it doesn't make it right. Donegal, Derry, Armagh, Tyrone and Cavan all have panels named. Pick any 15 starters from the 24/28 named - it's fairly straight forward. But yet our county PRO team gets an award... go figure..

What exactly is the point of naming incorrect teams? Does it really give the manager an advantage over the opposition? All it seems to do is p*ss everyone off.

No benefit in it at all.  I think mamagement think there is but there isn't.  Happens a lot in championship as if a county is getting 'one over' on the opposition.

Is there not a fine in place for naming dummy teams?
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how can you possibly know whether there is benefit in it or not ?