All Ireland club football championships 2023/24

[pbat]

A review of potential infractions of this rule can be instigated by appeal or an "inquiry by the committee in charge", so the Central Competition Controls Committee (CCCC) could also choose to investigate without a request from Glen.[/b

Above in bold taken from the RTE website so the CCCC are definitely taking the cowards way out by passing the buck to Glen.

[lenny]

No one else has mentioned it but we got a qualifier match replayed vs Laois a few years ago because they made an extra sub. Feckers beat us anyway. Dark days!

Fortunately, Armagh's fortunes and those of Laois have gone in opposite directions since then.
Kilmacud would likely beat Watty's this time too, especially if they did not allow the Derry men get off to such a good start.

Glen did not play to near their potential for fair chunks of the game too. A replay would be a very interesting spectacle

The teams are  evenly matched.  Wattys probably have a better manager

Crokes had 16 players on for about 15 seconds of a 65 minute game. They beat Glen by 2 points over that time. I cannot see Glen having any interest in appealing and I'm sure their players wouldn't be in a frame of mind for a replay. The result should stand but lessons need to be taken on board for officials. Subs cannot enter the field until the player being replaced has left.

[From the Bunker]

Has the Soccerball ever had a replay over a wrong decision? They just seem to get on with it!

[seafoid]

No one else has mentioned it but we got a qualifier match replayed vs Laois a few years ago because they made an extra sub. Feckers beat us anyway. Dark days!

Fortunately, Armagh's fortunes and those of Laois have gone in opposite directions since then.
Kilmacud would likely beat Watty's this time too, especially if they did not allow the Derry men get off to such a good start.

Glen did not play to near their potential for fair chunks of the game too. A replay would be a very interesting spectacle

The teams are  evenly matched.  Wattys probably have a better manager

Crokes had 16 players on for about 15 seconds of a 65 minute game. They beat Glen by 2 points over that time. I cannot see Glen having any interest in appealing and I'm sure their players wouldn't be in a frame of mind for a replay. The result should stand but lessons need to be taken on board for officials. Subs cannot enter the field until the player being replaced has left.

Apparently it's not a matter of opinion. It was a tight match and KC had an extra man on the pitch . In such a case there is a rule.
There will be loads of cows milked in Stillorgan tonight.

[take_yer_points]

No one else has mentioned it but we got a qualifier match replayed vs Laois a few years ago because they made an extra sub. Feckers beat us anyway. Dark days!

Fortunately, Armagh's fortunes and those of Laois have gone in opposite directions since then.
Kilmacud would likely beat Watty's this time too, especially if they did not allow the Derry men get off to such a good start.

Glen did not play to near their potential for fair chunks of the game too. A replay would be a very interesting spectacle

The teams are  evenly matched.  Wattys probably have a better manager

Crokes had 16 players on for about 15 seconds of a 65 minute game. They beat Glen by 2 points over that time. I cannot see Glen having any interest in appealing and I'm sure their players wouldn't be in a frame of mind for a replay. The result should stand but lessons need to be taken on board for officials. Subs cannot enter the field until the player being replaced has left.

I'd tend to agree, but you have to question where the line is too. Would 1 minute be ok? 5 minutes? 10 minutes? At what point is an unfair advantage gained and a replay ordered? Going by the rules there should be a sanction

[seafoid]

Has the Soccerball ever had a replay over a wrong decision? They just seem to get on with it!

Maybe soccerball refs are more tuned in to what is going on

[6th sam]

 WhAt is different here is that there is clear video evidence of the extra player, and he had a deterring influence on the attacking team for a set piece that could have won the game. This last attack was stifled partly by weight of the extra numbers . It had a clear material difference on successfully defending that potential match winning attack. The rules were broken and this influenced the match. There is clear evidence of this. There is nothing unsporting about objecting , but there is a chance that KC were unsporting in trying to gain an advantage at a crucial time. Object, hopefully successful appeal and a mouth watering replay. This will turn a PR disaster into PR success

[seafoid]

The extra man, Mullin, the full forward,   was defending the goal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMBmxXr5Oxo

[DickyRock]

The rule is there in black and white. Its not debatable, the rule should be followed.

[An Fhairche Abu]

WhAt is different here is that there is clear video evidence of the extra player, and he had a deterring influence on the attacking team for a set piece that could have won the game. This last attack was stifled partly by weight of the extra numbers . It had a clear material difference on successfully defending that potential match winning attack. The rules were broken and this influenced the match. There is clear evidence of this. There is nothing unsporting about objecting , but there is a chance that KC were unsporting in trying to gain an advantage at a crucial time. Object, hopefully successful appeal and a mouth watering replay. This will turn a PR disaster into PR success

I agree that there should be a replay but there is no PR success to be had here, this is farcical stuff whatever happens.

[seafoid]

This is a good summary

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/01/23/glen-have-three-days-to-lodge-objection-to-all-ireland-club-football-final/

Indications are that the authorities may consider fines too lenient and forfeiture excessive, making a rematch the likely resolution. Although Mullin had no material impact on the play that unfolded – he didn't touch the ball – there is a view that it's impossible to infer what would have happened had the correct number of players been on the field.
The calculation then is the balance of the contest, which at the time was a one-score match.

[seafoid]

Would this count as Gah shithousery?

[joemamas]

WhAt is different here is that there is clear video evidence of the extra player, and he had a deterring influence on the attacking team for a set piece that could have won the game. This last attack was stifled partly by weight of the extra numbers . It had a clear material difference on successfully defending that potential match winning attack. The rules were broken and this influenced the match. There is clear evidence of this. There is nothing unsporting about objecting , but there is a chance that KC were unsporting in trying to gain an advantage at a crucial time. Object, hopefully successful appeal and a mouth watering replay. This will turn a PR disaster into PR success

I agree that there should be a replay but there is no PR success to be had here, this is farcical stuff whatever happens.

Agreed, however the GAA need to step up. The onus should not be on either KC or Glen.

[seafoid]

Joe Brolly weighs in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQbCMrOBXFU

[Milltown Row2]

Hopefully the club puts it to their members and take a vote on it. Then put it to bed