China Coronavirus

[armaghniac]

The notion of making the vaccine compulsory for your job will be extremely hard to enforce. That is a significant change to a contract of employment and you can't simply make a unilateral change and enforce it on someone. If you make it as a pre-requisite for people applying for a job it will leave companies so open to potential claims.

The government need to change the law. Companies must not employ people who are a health risk to their customers and they must have the legal rights to do so. Make companies responsible for any infection from unvaccinated people.

But how do people even know where/who they get it from? Just because you might work in a shop/office with someone who isn't vaccinated, if you get the virus, doesn't mean they spread it to you.

And how would you police everyone who enters a shop? If someone isn't vaccinated, how would shops know? And are shops going to ask for evidence every time someone goes out for a pint of milk?

Impossible to police. The Government cannot simply implement a law which will override the rights of millions of workers and their personal rights.  The vaccination is an invasion of a person, you cannot make it compulsory for people to have a needle stuck in them.  That is a huge breach of civil liberties, whether it is beneficial or not, and the Government cannot do that.

People don't have to have it, but they should be required to work in public facing jobs. Being given Covid by some plonker making a statement about vaccines is an invasion of the person and having such a person working anywhere would be contributory negligence.

[armaghniac]

1,566 cases in the 6 counties, Derry and Strabane almost doubled in the last week compared to previous week.
26 counties will be around 2000, still only half the North but a big increase on 3 weeks ago.

[brokencrossbar1]

The notion of making the vaccine compulsory for your job will be extremely hard to enforce. That is a significant change to a contract of employment and you can't simply make a unilateral change and enforce it on someone. If you make it as a pre-requisite for people applying for a job it will leave companies so open to potential claims.

The government need to change the law. Companies must not employ people who are a health risk to their customers and they must have the legal rights to do so. Make companies responsible for any infection from unvaccinated people.

But how do people even know where/who they get it from? Just because you might work in a shop/office with someone who isn't vaccinated, if you get the virus, doesn't mean they spread it to you.

And how would you police everyone who enters a shop? If someone isn't vaccinated, how would shops know? And are shops going to ask for evidence every time someone goes out for a pint of milk?

Impossible to police. The Government cannot simply implement a law which will override the rights of millions of workers and their personal rights.  The vaccination is an invasion of a person, you cannot make it compulsory for people to have a needle stuck in them.  That is a huge breach of civil liberties, whether it is beneficial or not, and the Government cannot do that.

People don't have to have it, but they should be required to work in public facing jobs. Being given Covid by some plonker making a statement about vaccines is an invasion of the person and having such a person working anywhere would be contributory negligence.

I don't disagree with your logic but I'm telling you there will be widespread resistance the minute you make it compulsory

[RadioGAAGAA]

Impossible to police. The Government cannot simply implement a law which will override the rights of millions of workers and their personal rights.  The vaccination is an invasion of a person, you cannot make it compulsory for people to have a needle stuck in them.  That is a huge breach of civil liberties, whether it is beneficial or not, and the Government cannot do that.

With respect - f**k the rights of the stupid to be stupid if it endangers others.

[Smurfy123]

Agree that I don't think it should be compulsory
But the minute places ask for a vaccine card to travel to their country you will get the plonkers who make a big deal that they will not take it jump at taking it
Putting down a big statement by not taking it
Each to there own and all that but why not
Surely the pros outweigh the cons heavely

[armaghniac]

The notion of making the vaccine compulsory for your job will be extremely hard to enforce. That is a significant change to a contract of employment and you can't simply make a unilateral change and enforce it on someone. If you make it as a pre-requisite for people applying for a job it will leave companies so open to potential claims.

The government need to change the law. Companies must not employ people who are a health risk to their customers and they must have the legal rights to do so. Make companies responsible for any infection from unvaccinated people.

But how do people even know where/who they get it from? Just because you might work in a shop/office with someone who isn't vaccinated, if you get the virus, doesn't mean they spread it to you.

And how would you police everyone who enters a shop? If someone isn't vaccinated, how would shops know? And are shops going to ask for evidence every time someone goes out for a pint of milk?

Impossible to police. The Government cannot simply implement a law which will override the rights of millions of workers and their personal rights.  The vaccination is an invasion of a person, you cannot make it compulsory for people to have a needle stuck in them.  That is a huge breach of civil liberties, whether it is beneficial or not, and the Government cannot do that.

People don't have to have it, but they should be required to work in public facing jobs. Being given Covid by some plonker making a statement about vaccines is an invasion of the person and having such a person working anywhere would be contributory negligence.

I don't disagree with your logic but I'm telling you there will be widespread resistance the minute you make it compulsory

Things are compulsory, even in the most liberal employer you are expected to wear clothes, for example.

However, if they require people to have vaccines for air travel then that should do the trick.

[Seaney]

The notion of making the vaccine compulsory for your job will be extremely hard to enforce. That is a significant change to a contract of employment and you can't simply make a unilateral change and enforce it on someone. If you make it as a pre-requisite for people applying for a job it will leave companies so open to potential claims.

The government need to change the law. Companies must not employ people who are a health risk to their customers and they must have the legal rights to do so. Make companies responsible for any infection from unvaccinated people.

Yawn the vaccination doesn't stop the spread, the whole country could be vaccinated and you could still get it, maybe you should take greater personal responsibility.

[BennyCake]

Impossible to police. The Government cannot simply implement a law which will override the rights of millions of workers and their personal rights.  The vaccination is an invasion of a person, you cannot make it compulsory for people to have a needle stuck in them.  That is a huge breach of civil liberties, whether it is beneficial or not, and the Government cannot do that.

With respect - f**k the rights of the stupid to be stupid if it endangers others.

There's thousands of stupid f**kers behaving recklessly and not following any guidelines, for months now, endangering me. What about my rights?

[sid waddell]

The notion of making the vaccine compulsory for your job will be extremely hard to enforce. That is a significant change to a contract of employment and you can't simply make a unilateral change and enforce it on someone. If you make it as a pre-requisite for people applying for a job it will leave companies so open to potential claims.

The government need to change the law. Companies must not employ people who are a health risk to their customers and they must have the legal rights to do so. Make companies responsible for any infection from unvaccinated people.

Yawn the vaccination doesn't stop the spread, the whole country could be vaccinated and you could still get it, maybe you should take greater personal responsibility.

What's the evidence for your assertion?

[GetOverTheBar]

Impossible to police. The Government cannot simply implement a law which will override the rights of millions of workers and their personal rights.  The vaccination is an invasion of a person, you cannot make it compulsory for people to have a needle stuck in them.  That is a huge breach of civil liberties, whether it is beneficial or not, and the Government cannot do that.

With respect - f**k the rights of the stupid to be stupid if it endangers others.

BCB1 is spot on here by the way.

What you are asking for here Radio is essentially people to be injected, (potentially) against their own free will. People know there is a 98% survival rate for this thing (if you even know you get it).

The North Koreans wouldn't even do that to their own people. I understand your passion on this subject but you are asking for Orwell's Dystopian nightmare here and something that simply must not be allowed to happen.

[Seaney]

Impossible to police. The Government cannot simply implement a law which will override the rights of millions of workers and their personal rights.  The vaccination is an invasion of a person, you cannot make it compulsory for people to have a needle stuck in them.  That is a huge breach of civil liberties, whether it is beneficial or not, and the Government cannot do that.

With respect - f**k the rights of the stupid to be stupid if it endangers others.

There's thousands of stupid f**kers behaving recklessly and not following any guidelines, for months now, endangering me. What about my rights?

Stay in, stay safe, get vaccinated when you can. Lockdown have taken the rights away from families, the disabled, the vulnerable, the abused, cancer suffers, bereavement, mental health what about their rights, so much for we are all in it together, it's all me me me here.

[armaghniac]

What you are asking for here Radio is essentially people to be injected, (potentially) against their own free will. People know there is a 98% survival rate for this thing (if you even know you get it).

What we are requiring is that people present themselves for work in a manner which is not dangerous to others.
Perhaps they could be allowed a Covid test each day instead, at their own expense.

[Seaney]

What you are asking for here Radio is essentially people to be injected, (potentially) against their own free will. People know there is a 98% survival rate for this thing (if you even know you get it).

What we are requiring is that people present themselves for work in a manner which is not dangerous to others.
Perhaps they could be allowed a Covid test each day instead, at their own expense.

Again they could be vaccinated and still have covid.

[Seaney]

What you are asking for here Radio is essentially people to be injected, (potentially) against their own free will. People know there is a 98% survival rate for this thing (if you even know you get it).

What we are requiring is that people present themselves for work in a manner which is not dangerous to others.
Perhaps they could be allowed a Covid test each day instead, at their own expense.

Maybe get a new job but you sound like a civil servant, doing f**k all daily so you probably wouldn't.

[sid waddell]

The notion of making the vaccine compulsory for your job will be extremely hard to enforce. That is a significant change to a contract of employment and you can't simply make a unilateral change and enforce it on someone. If you make it as a pre-requisite for people applying for a job it will leave companies so open to potential claims.

The government need to change the law. Companies must not employ people who are a health risk to their customers and they must have the legal rights to do so. Make companies responsible for any infection from unvaccinated people.

Yawn the vaccination doesn't stop the spread, the whole country could be vaccinated and you could still get it, maybe you should take greater personal responsibility.

What's the evidence for your assertion?

Seaney?