Is the apathy of these two counties such that no one gives a flying one about this?
Possibly, i'll be there anyway like a fool. Every year i say..."never again" but i tend to forgive too easily, will be ordering the tickets today or tomorrow...Rafferty will be a big miss no matter who else Armagh have back for this game, we're very light on quality up front and can't afford any more injuries or suspensions in the forward line.
Quote from: Stan Laurel on June 18, 2018, 08:35:10 AM
Is the apathy of these two counties such that no one gives a flying one about this?
Pretty much so yes. At least the trip in and out will be short enough so that's about the only positive.
It'll be closer than the hammering we got in Armagh in the opening round of the league but Armagh will still win with a bit to spare.
I know going by the last result you'd fancy Armagh but my experiences of Sligo over the last 15 years or so was always getting it tight against them, especially in Sligo. The two teams are a lot weaker than they've been in a while but if Sligo get off to a good start and have numbers back in defense Armagh will struggle to break them down.
Could be another tight one, Armagh should finish off strong as they're meant to be in qer nick...who knows
agree total apathy in both counties, won`t be travelling as just can`t seem to muster the enthusiasm, its simply prolonging the inevitable hammering somewhere down the line if Armagh win.
I heard Sligo lost to Leitrim in a challenge last week, hopefully the hangover from the Galway mauling will be gone by Saturday.
Not confident about this one but you never know, we might pull another upset. Need some serious improvement in defense after. Leaking 4-24. On the positive side we scored more against Galway than Roscommon did.
Quote from: naka on June 18, 2018, 01:19:56 PM
agree total apathy in both counties, won`t be travelling as just can`t seem to muster the enthusiasm, its simply prolonging the inevitable hammering somewhere down the line if Armagh win.
Unfortunately whatever the result the same system / management will be in place next year where it will be straight back to division 3 and another short summer. To be honest I think Sligo will win this one, hopefully they do and put Armagh out of there misery.
Quote from: naka on June 18, 2018, 01:19:56 PM
agree total apathy in both counties, won`t be travelling as just can`t seem to muster the enthusiasm, its simply prolonging the inevitable hammering somewhere down the line if Armagh win.
I plan to attend, but that is as much because I think it might be nice to visit Sligo on one of the longest days of the year as any expectation of great football.
Quote from: Stan Laurel on June 18, 2018, 01:35:17 PM
Unfortunately whatever the result the same system / management will be in place next year where it will be straight back to division 3 and another short summer. To be honest I think Sligo will win this one, hopefully they do and put Armagh out of there misery.
We were unlucky to go to Div 3, we might not be relegated again, but I don't expect much more.
If Armagh win a few matches then you'll be running around looking tickets for the match. We all know Armagh won't win the All ireland, Jasus even they know that too and along the way they'll take a hiding from someone but until they do i'll be there cheering them on. If it's a poor performance i'll come home giving off about them but after a while i'll come round and getting ready for the next game...C'mon Armagh
Sure if it's all just prolonging the inevitable hammering somewhere down the line you could say that about 30 odd counties chances in the thing. Still have to try to get behind them and enjoy the ride.
I'll be in for this shouting for Sligo my adopted home, and them playing against Armagh makes it a bit easier to get all into. Tipping a narrow Sligo win with the home advantage taking them across the line.
Will be making the trip done myself. Hope for another win so we can get at least one more match
Dear Sligo natives... Anywhere ye'd recommend to quench the thirst at? Might stay down the night
Hargadons in O'connell st. Good food and drink, old pub
Quote from: our_fella on June 18, 2018, 05:09:21 PM
Dear Sligo natives... Anywhere ye'd recommend to quench the thirst at? Might stay down the night
All the life around the town at night now is down along the river, Fiddlers, Garavogue, Blind Tiger, The Snug, Bourbon and Kennedys. From there it's a short jaunt over to Lillies or up the Shoot the Crows which are both worth a visit.
If you fancy a bit of dancing, ask any of the bar staff in Bourbon for passes to Lola Montez (Toffs) and you can get in free.
I'm expecting Armagh to win this game by a bit to spare. The one thing that kept coming into my head when watching the Connacht final yesterday was how bad are Sligo and they were very bad in their last meeting v Armagh this year.
Not meaning to be disrespectful but I'm not expecting much from Sligo. There is nothing in the form book that indicates that they offer much.
It's a bloody track to get to and the throw in time in conjunction with the 5.00 throw in in Enniskillen and the travelling Down support. But that aside it's a good draw for us.
I agree that a hammering could be on the cards for us down the line but we need walk before we can run.
I don't think isolating the 2 big men at Full Forward is the best option for us and Rafferty's injury probably means we will have to do things a little differently
Heading from Sth.Armagh, best to head via armagh/enniskillen/belcoo etc, or dundalk/blaney/lisnaskea/belcoo?
Quote from: smelmoth on June 18, 2018, 09:20:51 PM
Not meaning to be disrespectful but I'm not expecting much from Sligo. There is nothing in the form book that indicates that they offer much.
It's a bloody track to get to and the throw in time in conjunction with the 5.00 throw in in Enniskillen and the travelling Down support. But that aside it's a good draw for us.
I agree that a hammering could be on the cards for us down the line but we need walk before we can run.
I don't think isolating the 2 big men at Full Forward is the best option for us and Rafferty's injury probably means we will have to do things a little differently
On what planet should a team at Armagh's level be overlooking Sligo at Marky Park? It's definitely not this one.
Quote from: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 02:44:53 PM
On what planet should a team at Armagh's level be overlooking Sligo at Marky Park? It's definitey not this one.
Presumably one where Sligo's home pitch is not referred to as "Marky Park"
Quote from: DuffleKing on June 19, 2018, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 02:44:53 PM
On what planet should a team at Armagh's level be overlooking Sligo at Marky Park? It's definitey not this one.
Presumably one where Sligo's home pitch is not referred to as "Marky Park"
You're not from Connacht are you, ladeen? :-X
I'm thankful for all mercies
Quote from: DuffleKing on June 19, 2018, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 02:44:53 PM
On what planet should a team at Armagh’s level be overlooking Sligo at Marky Park? It’s definitey not this one.
Presumably one where Sligo's home pitch is not referred to as "Marky Park"
Its Markievicz Park not Marky Park. You don't have to be from Connacht to know that
Quote from: our_fella on June 19, 2018, 02:36:41 PM
Heading from Sth.Armagh, best to head via armagh/enniskillen/belcoo etc, or dundalk/blaney/lisnaskea/belcoo?
This southerly route might avoid Down people arriving in Enniskillen, which is probably busy enough on Saturday afternoon anyway.
General sense of apathy in Sligo at the minute. We are county with very few fanatics who live and breed Sligo football.
Most want Corey gone so a win comes with his tenure getting a boost. I still want us to win. This younger crop need more big game experience.
For both teams this could be the draw after - winners of Leitrim v Louth then play Laois to get to super 8s. :o
Quote from: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 03:05:20 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on June 19, 2018, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 02:44:53 PM
On what planet should a team at Armagh's level be overlooking Sligo at Marky Park? It's definitey not this one.
Presumably one where Sligo's home pitch is not referred to as "Marky Park"
You're not from Connacht are you, ladeen? :-X
Hydeho park looked well on Sunday. That's what everyone in connachy calls it
Whats the craic with the Rosco bus these days...haven't heard it mentioned this long time
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on June 19, 2018, 08:29:44 PM
General sense of apathy in Sligo at the minute. We are county with very few fanatics who live and breed Sligo football.
Most want Corey gone so a win comes with his tenure getting a boost. I still want us to win. This younger crop need more big game experience.
For both teams this could be the draw after - winners of Leitrim v Louth then play Laois to get to super 8s. :o
Is this not his first year in the job?
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 19, 2018, 11:50:02 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on June 19, 2018, 08:29:44 PM
General sense of apathy in Sligo at the minute. We are county with very few fanatics who live and breed Sligo football.
Most want Corey gone so a win comes with his tenure getting a boost. I still want us to win. This younger crop need more big game experience.
For both teams this could be the draw after - winners of Leitrim v Louth then play Laois to get to super 8s. :o
Is this not his first year in the job?
Yeah seems harsh - what has he done wrong?
Quote from: WT4E on June 20, 2018, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 19, 2018, 11:50:02 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on June 19, 2018, 08:29:44 PM
General sense of apathy in Sligo at the minute. We are county with very few fanatics who live and breed Sligo football.
Most want Corey gone so a win comes with his tenure getting a boost. I still want us to win. This younger crop need more big game experience.
For both teams this could be the draw after - winners of Leitrim v Louth then play Laois to get to super 8s. :o
Is this not his first year in the job?
Yeah seems harsh - what has he done wrong?
I for one don't want him gone but losing to Galway by 21 points won't help his cause, especially how easily we let them run at/through us. Hopefully they have learned from that and tighten up the defense on Saturday...
Quote from: WT4E on June 20, 2018, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 19, 2018, 11:50:02 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on June 19, 2018, 08:29:44 PM
General sense of apathy in Sligo at the minute. We are county with very few fanatics who live and breed Sligo football.
Most want Corey gone so a win comes with his tenure getting a boost. I still want us to win. This younger crop need more big game experience.
For both teams this could be the draw after - winners of Leitrim v Louth then play Laois to get to super 8s. :o
Is this not his first year in the job?
Yeah seems harsh - what has he done wrong?
4-21 to 1-12
Surviving division 3 by skin of teeth
Refusing to allow the under 20's in the squad play with their age group.
Refusing to communicate with under 20 management.
Revolving door of backroom team.
Time to get a local back in charge who cares about the future direction of Sligo football and not the short term.
I would have thought surviving a division that Derry couldn't would have been considered an achievement for a county like Sligo.
Galway are way ahead of alot of counties including Sligo - Galway finished top of Div 1 and gave Dublin a fair rattle in the final - they are the first team in the Super 8 - Sligo where never going to beat Galway so does it really matter whether its by 4 points or 20 points - Sligo would need to have had their eye on progressing through the qualifiers against teams at their level.
I think there is a deeper problem than the manager in Sligo if the fans are wishing their team are defeated!
Quote from: WT4E on June 20, 2018, 10:34:14 AM
I would have thought surviving a division that Derry couldn't would have been considered an achievement for a county like Sligo.
Galway are way ahead of alot of counties including Sligo - Galway finished top of Div 1 and gave Dublin a fair rattle in the final - they are the first team in the Super 8 - Sligo where never going to beat Galway so does it really matter whether its by 4 points or 20 points - Sligo would need to have had their eye on progressing through the qualifiers against teams at their level.
I think there is a deeper problem than the manager in Sligo if the fans are wishing their team are defeated!
I agree there are many issues with Sligo football and the Sligo senior management in one of them. Offaly, Wexford, Westmeath were also in the division. Derry were missing their Slaughneil players for the duration of the league and are not the force they were a few years ago.
Any manager who will not answer phone calls from the under 20 management in the weeks leading up to the under 20 campaign does not care about Sligo football. We had a good under 20 team this year but 3 of them couldn't play as they played the London game. The u20 goalkeeper was sub goalkeeper for seniors and wasn't released.
It was the manner of the defeat that disappointed Sligo supporters. The lack of passion, fitness from the players, naivety of the management, lack of a game plan.
Corey was a very odd appointment
Quote from: WT4E on June 20, 2018, 10:34:14 AM
I would have thought surviving a division that Derry couldn't would have been considered an achievement for a county like Sligo.
Galway are way ahead of alot of counties including Sligo - Galway finished top of Div 1 and gave Dublin a fair rattle in the final - they are the first team in the Super 8 - Sligo where never going to beat Galway so does it really matter whether its by 4 points or 20 points - Sligo would need to have had their eye on progressing through the qualifiers against teams at their level.
I think there is a deeper problem than the manager in Sligo if the fans are wishing their team are defeated!
Derry are in freefall little or no comfort to take out of that. Losing by 20 points means you were poorly organized and prepared for that game and receiving a beating like that is very tough to recover from. Losing by just 4 points to top 5 team means Sligo are fairly decent and more than ready to take out Armagh at home.
I don't think Sligo supporters ever wanted Corey as he's not seen as much of improvement on the last manager.
Quote from: Mano on June 20, 2018, 11:03:19 AM
Quote from: WT4E on June 20, 2018, 10:34:14 AM
I would have thought surviving a division that Derry couldn't would have been considered an achievement for a county like Sligo.
Galway are way ahead of alot of counties including Sligo - Galway finished top of Div 1 and gave Dublin a fair rattle in the final - they are the first team in the Super 8 - Sligo where never going to beat Galway so does it really matter whether its by 4 points or 20 points - Sligo would need to have had their eye on progressing through the qualifiers against teams at their level.
I think there is a deeper problem than the manager in Sligo if the fans are wishing their team are defeated!
I agree there are many issues with Sligo football and the Sligo senior management in one of them. Offaly, Wexford, Westmeath were also in the division. Derry were missing their Slaughneil players for the duration of the league and are not the force they were a few years ago.
Any manager who will not answer phone calls from the under 20 management in the weeks leading up to the under 20 campaign does not care about Sligo football. We had a good under 20 team this year but 3 of them couldn't play as they played the London game. The u20 goalkeeper was sub goalkeeper for seniors and wasn't released.
It was the manner of the defeat that disappointed Sligo supporters. The lack of passion, fitness from the players, naivety of the management, lack of a game plan.
Sounds like a fella who's more interested in minding his own house rather than progressing Sligo football. Hard to blame him on the one hand but not what a county needs
Corey has been a disaster, to those uninformed looking in from the outside of course it looks different,
Context - Corey was turned down by Derry and Donegal which is irrelevant but he was chosen by Sligo ahead of Fergal O Donnell, the reason for the appointment was he is cheap, he would sort out our defensive issues the CB Chairman said, he got the job based on the backroom team of Conleith Gillgan, Tony Scullion and Aidan Rooney. When Corey got the gig it was clearly evident Rooney was carrying him, he would be last to get to training and first to leave, did this go down well with the players do yee think.
Gilligan turned up for 2 training sessions over the first few months and eventually left, Scullion rarely turned up to training sessions but is still there and is his man in the stand. Rooney who took all the early training session was then shafted by Corey and left. I'm not going to go into that but Corey handled it terribly. The CB didn't get rid of Corey then because they couldn't be shown to have made a mistake especially after the fck up with Carew's reappointment. So they stuck with Corey and got new backroom team in, McGowan and ryder.
This is Coreys first ever involvement in a intercounty set up so he has no clue what it takes, he shackled the team through out the league and only the players went man to man against Derry did we show what we could do especially second half. He put Hughes wing forward which is crazy stuff against Galway.
Corey works 2.5 hrs away from Scarden and probably took on more than he realised but our CB did zero due diligence as usual on his backroom commitment, on his own commitment. etc.,
All of what Mano said is true below is true
4-21 to 1-12
Surviving division 3 by skin of teeth
Refusing to allow the under 20's in the squad play with their age group.
Refusing to communicate with under 20 management.
Revolving door of backroom team.
Time to get a local back in charge who cares about the future direction of Sligo football and not the short term.
I doubt the players will want him back, I would be shocked and disappointed. Im not sure about local appointment, is Ohara/McGowan ready mano?
I was very happy FOD wasn't yer manager, Sligoian. Working with a young inexperienced panel is his bread and butter and would have probably made Sligo likely to upset one of the top three in the province in the next few years.
Quote from: Syferus on June 20, 2018, 06:55:17 PM
I was very happy FOD wasn't yer manager, Sligoian. Working with a young inexperienced panel is his bread and butter and would have probably made Sligo likely to upset one of the top three in the province in the next few years.
I know Syferus, you can thank Joe Taafe when you see him.
I actually believe there is alot of player talent in the current squad, we lack the physicality but that will come. Our u20s and our strategy around that definitely cost us a close run Connacht final imo.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on June 20, 2018, 06:59:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 20, 2018, 06:55:17 PM
I was very happy FOD wasn't yer manager, Sligoian. Working with a young inexperienced panel is his bread and butter and would have probably made Sligo likely to upset one of the top three in the province in the next few years.
I know Syferus, you can thank Joe Taafe when you see him.
I actually believe there is alot of player talent in the current squad, we lack the physicality but that will come. Our u20s and our strategy around that definitely cost us a close run Connacht final imo.
I doubt it would be close run final due to the schedule in place. If Sligo had reached the Connacht U20 final it would have been 3 games in 3 weeks v Mayo who didn't even have one competitive game.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 20, 2018, 07:43:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on June 20, 2018, 06:59:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 20, 2018, 06:55:17 PM
I was very happy FOD wasn't yer manager, Sligoian. Working with a young inexperienced panel is his bread and butter and would have probably made Sligo likely to upset one of the top three in the province in the next few years.
I know Syferus, you can thank Joe Taafe when you see him.
I actually believe there is alot of player talent in the current squad, we lack the physicality but that will come. Our u20s and our strategy around that definitely cost us a close run Connacht final imo.
I doubt it would be close run final due to the schedule in place. If Sligo had reached the Connacht U20 final it would have been 3 games in 3 weeks v Mayo who didn't even have one competitive game.
Fair point, we were fixed the day before the seniors too but for any Sligo GAA person its hard not to think what if Carrabine, O Connor and Gaughan were in starting 15 what we would of achieved, they were all outstanding for the seniors this year and o connor has been for a few yrs.
And Saturday our Minors, Seniors and Hurlers having to play on the same day at 3 different venues, at least there at different times. ;D I wonder did our county board make any issue of this, a whisper of discontent even.
Apologies for going off track.
Aye sure you boys work away there and we'll read your shite :P. ;)
Anyway what way r u men fixed for Sat nite? Injuries/suspensions etc
I can rarely remember such a low key build up to an Armagh match in recent times, even the Westmeath match I knew a few people heading. Not confident at all about this Armagh team but it sounds like it could be the 'least worst' team who could progress here if the Sligo posters are to be believed. Either way I don't see the winners of this match lasting much longer in the championship.
Quote from: yellowcard on June 22, 2018, 03:11:28 PM
I can rarely remember such a low key build up to an Armagh match in recent times, even the Westmeath match I knew a few people heading. Not confident at all about this Armagh team but it sounds like it could be the 'least worst' team who could progress here if the Sligo posters are to be believed. Either way I don't see the winners of this match lasting much longer in the championship.
Never know who they might draw in the next round to allow them to slip on through.
Reaching the Super 8s would be a success and a disaster.
Still want to be there
Its a warm one lads. Barbecue weather.
The football is pretty tepid.
Sligo 1-13 Armagh 1-19. Sligo scored their goal in the 72nd minute. A comfortable win for Armagh as expected. Need to avoid Mayo and Tyrone on Mondays draw to have a decent chance of reaching round 4. Sligo so light on number that a player who played In Croke Park earlier for their hurlers was brought on 2nd half.
McGeeney tops.
Comfortable win. Poor enough game but 1 team had no interest in playing football. We have to be honest - Sligo are shocking. Maybe we got dragged down to that level but we didn't really start to get away from then until the gift of the goal.
Grimley was superb when he came on and got confidence into the swing of that right boot. McShane as always gave 100% and there was plenty of product today. Actually thought Vernon had a poor game. I appreciate he is an outlet for the backward pass when we hit the massed defence but didn't see him do anything with it. He slows the game down and the driving runs are not breaking the tackle. Inevitably the run is sideways and the subsequent pass is backwards. He has the ability to dominate a team like Sligo. In general we beat what was in front of us, comfortably in the end but without looking close to the sort of performance that would trouble serious opposition. But we get another go at that. Onwards and upwards
Quote from: smelmoth on June 23, 2018, 11:21:20 PM
Comfortable win. Poor enough game but 1 team had no interest in playing football. We have to be honest - Sligo are shocking. Maybe we got dragged down to that level but we didn't really start to get away from then until the gift of the goal.
Grimley was superb when he came on and got confidence into the swing of that right boot. McShane as always gave 100% and there was plenty of product today. Actually thought Vernon had a poor game. I appreciate he is an outlet for the backward pass when we hit the massed defence but didn't see him do anything with it. He slows the game down and the driving runs are not breaking the tackle. Inevitably the run is sideways and the subsequent pass is backwards. He has the ability to dominate a team like Sligo. In general we beat what was in front of us, comfortably in the end but without looking close to the sort of performance that would trouble serious opposition. But we get another go at that. Onwards and upwards
I'd disagree. I thought ye stopped the persistent fouling a few times and had some good moves. I wouldn't be that hard on yourselves.
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 24, 2018, 11:02:25 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 23, 2018, 11:21:20 PM
Comfortable win. Poor enough game but 1 team had no interest in playing football. We have to be honest - Sligo are shocking. Maybe we got dragged down to that level but we didn't really start to get away from then until the gift of the goal.
Grimley was superb when he came on and got confidence into the swing of that right boot. McShane as always gave 100% and there was plenty of product today. Actually thought Vernon had a poor game. I appreciate he is an outlet for the backward pass when we hit the massed defence but didn't see him do anything with it. He slows the game down and the driving runs are not breaking the tackle. Inevitably the run is sideways and the subsequent pass is backwards. He has the ability to dominate a team like Sligo. In general we beat what was in front of us, comfortably in the end but without looking close to the sort of performance that would trouble serious opposition. But we get another go at that. Onwards and upwards
I'd disagree. I thought ye stopped the persistent fouling a few times and had some good moves. I wouldn't be that hard on yourselves.
One of the things that I thought we did improve on was our tackling. Admittedly we are starting from a low standard. So I can see how we might have differing views.
Sligo had the benefit of a wind blowing straight down the pitch in the first half. They hit a total of zero long kick outs in that period. That sounds crazy but you have to add the following factors into the mix. You had numerous turnovers and score concessions when sideways passing close to goal after short kick outs. You did quite well on our long kick outs in the first half so had the midfield to contest and our midfield were off the boil. You won 3 marks in the second half from accurate long kick outs so your keeper can hit them. And when he went short he got the shirt colours mixed up and gave us a goal.
There was an absolute determination to play short kick outs and sideways hand passing. Whatever that is it isn't football, it didn't work and ultimately was punished.
Good luck Armagh in the next round.
We are a young team that hopefully will come good in the next few years.
Quote from: sligoman2 on June 24, 2018, 11:58:47 PM
Good luck Armagh in the next round.
We are a young team that hopefully will come good in the next few years.
Good man... Cheers.
P. S. Hope you guys were happy with our good behaviour 😉