China Coronavirus

[armaghniac]

[Blowitupref]

Local lockdown restrictions for 2 weeks for counties Offaly, Laois and Kildare expected to be confirmed shortly.

[Cunny Funt]

98 cases today for some context June 29 to 5th the ROI had only 91 cases.

Close to 70 of today's cases are from the three counties going into lockdown tonight. Good news only 4 was from community transmission while the bad news was 4 deaths today and if from today instead of months ago its a rise as we had only 3 deaths in the last 2 weeks

Edit the 4 deaths are from May, June, July and a few days ago.

[Hereiam]

Was at a sheep mart this evening and let me tell you its only a matter of time before the marts are closed again. 4 deep at the ring side and stands 80% full, no social distancing at all. Few men wearing masks but alot were not. Was no natural ventilation to speak off as it was a still warm evening so it was prime conditions for a bit of COVID to spread. Glad to get out of the place.

[seafoid]

98 cases today for some context June 29 to 5th the ROI had only 91 cases.

Close to 70 of today's cases are from the three counties going into lockdown tonight. Good news only 4 was from community transmission while the bad news was 4 deaths today and if from today instead of months ago its a rise as we had only 3 deaths in the last 2 weeks

Edit the 4 deaths are from May, June, July and a few days ago.

Prof Philip Nolan, chair of the NPHET Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group, said the reproduction number for the virus is now estimated to be 1.8.

[seafoid]

98 cases today for some context June 29 to 5th the ROI had only 91 cases.


Close to 70 of today's cases are from the three counties going into lockdown tonight. Good news only 4 was from community transmission while the bad news was 4 deaths today and if from today instead of months ago its a rise as we had only 3 deaths in the last 2 weeks

Edit the 4 deaths are from May, June, July and a few days ago.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/main-points-what-restrictions-have-been-imposed-on-kildare-offaly-and-laois-1.4324852?mode=amp

Main points of the new restrictions for the midlands

Travel and transport
Residents of Kildare, Offaly and Laois can only travel within their own county, other than for the following reasons:

To travel to and from work where that work cannot be done from home;

To attend medical appointments, collect medicines and other health products;

For vital family reasons, like providing care to children, elderly or vulnerable people, but excluding social family visits;

For farming purposes, food production or care of animals.

People are asked not to travel into any of these counties, other than for the reasons above, and you need to travel through these counties to get somewhere else.

People are asked not stop in Kildare, Laois or Offaly during a journey unless for essential purposes.

Public and private transport
Residents of these counties should not use public transport unless it is absolutely necessary. And where possible they should not share private vehicles with others from outside their household.

Economic activity and work
Anyone in these counties who can work from home should work from home.

Cafes and restaurants
All cafes and restaurants, including bars operating as restaurants, should only offer takeaway or delivery, or outdoor dining (maximum 15 people with strict physical distancing). Otherwise they should close

Hotels can remain open but must limit occupancy to essential non-social and non-tourist reasons. Existing guests can remain for the duration of their booking.

Indoor gatherings
All indoor gatherings should be restricted to a maximum of six people from no more than three households, while maintaining physical distancing.

Outdoor gatherings
Outdoor gatherings should be limited to a maximum of 15 people, while maintaining physical distancing.

Cultural events and religious services
All cinemas, theatres, casinos, betting shops, bingo halls, gyms, leisure centres, swimming pools, exercise and dance studios must close at midnight.

Attendance at a funeral service and burial or cremation ceremony should be limited to 25 outdoors. Indoor events connected to the funeral are limited to a maximum of six people.

Places of worship remain open for private prayer, while services are to be held online.

Sport
No sporting events or matches should take place, with the following exemptions:

Non-contact training outdoors in a maximum group of 15 people may continue;

Professional and elite sports and horseracing may continue behind closed doors;

Inter-county training (maximum 15 people) and fixtures may continue behind closed doors.

Residential and healthcare facilities
Visiting in long-term residential care facilities, acute settings and prisons will generally be suspended in the first instance with the exception of the most critical and compassionate circumstances (for example end of life).

Advice for those over 70 years or medically vulnerable
The over 70s or medically vulnerable are advised to exercise individual judgement, and to stay at home as much as possible, and limit interactions to a very small network for short periods of time, while remaining physically distanced.

[Cunny Funt]

98 cases today for some context June 29 to 5th the ROI had only 91 cases.

Close to 70 of today's cases are from the three counties going into lockdown tonight. Good news only 4 was from community transmission while the bad news was 4 deaths today and if from today instead of months ago its a rise as we had only 3 deaths in the last 2 weeks

Edit the 4 deaths are from May, June, July and a few days ago.

Prof Philip Nolan, chair of the NPHET Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group, said the reproduction number for the virus is now estimated to be 1.8.

He and has colleagues have regularly said cluster outbreaks would drive up reproduction number and counties with low cases number would have a much lower RO number.

The main concern and reason for the restrictions in Kildare, Offaly and Laois is to keep community transmission cases as low as possible.

[laoislad]

174 new cases today..
110 in Kildare alone.

[sid waddell]

I don't really get this concept of "community transmission".

Seems a sort of unfounded comforting or coping mechanism to me.

Everybody is in the community.

Meat plant workers do not exist on their own island, they exist in the community.

Nobody exists outside of the community, nobody exists in total isolation from everybody else.

Humans are the community.

Anyway, 174 cases is a very bad number.

[Milltown Row2]

If you live in a village that has no cases and the neighbouring village has cases then it's a 'community outbreak?

[armaghniac]

Meat workers may get the virus at work and then transmit it in the community, hence the lockdown.
These numbers are bad, you couldn't open schools in Kildare with the likes of that.

[Cunny Funt]

I don't really get this concept of "community transmission".

Seems a sort of unfounded comforting or coping mechanism to me.

Everybody is in the community.

Meat plant workers do not exist on their own island, they exist in the community.

Nobody exists outside of the community, nobody exists in total isolation from everybody else.

Humans are the community.

Anyway, 174 cases is a very bad number.

It's not known where the virus was picked up with Community transmission cases. In March to April we had high community transmission hence why we were getting at its peak 5500 weekly cases.

It's going to be over 100 a day for cases for at least the next week according to the medical experts as all close contacts from these clusters are still to be picked up. Knowing who has it and where they got it makes it easier to contain.

[sid waddell]

I don't really get this concept of "community transmission".

Seems a sort of unfounded comforting or coping mechanism to me.

Everybody is in the community.

Meat plant workers do not exist on their own island, they exist in the community.

Nobody exists outside of the community, nobody exists in total isolation from everybody else.

Humans are the community.

Anyway, 174 cases is a very bad number.

It's not known where the virus was picked up with Community transmission cases. In March to April we had high community transmission hence why we were getting at its peak 5500 weekly cases.

It's going to be over 100 a day for cases for at least the next week according to the medical experts as all close contacts from these clusters are still to be picked up. Knowing who has it and where they got it makes it easier to contain.

OK, I get that, I suppose my point is more directed at the actual phrasing - "community transmission".

Because what it really means is "we don't know where or how person X got the virus". Infection of unknown origin.

Which is a different thing to actual community transmission, which accounts for 100% of cases - as we're all in the community.

"Community transmission", inverted commas included, is just a comforting euphemism for something that is a scarier reality.

I think the authorities would be better off using a term that is obvious in terms of people understanding it, rather than a term that appears to mean something else.

Clarity of language is essential in a pandemic.

For clarity reasons I would also prefer the term "physical distancing" (which is bleedin' obvious in terms of meaning) to "social distancing", which is a new term and slightly vague in terms of what it entails.

[ONeill]

I don't like the phrase 'wet pubs'.

Although a dry pub sounds catastrophic.

[RadioGAAGAA]

I don't really get this concept of "community transmission".

Its a euphemism for "we don't know who they got it from".

edit: ah, seen you got there anyway.