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« Reply #660 on: May 09, 2018, 10:25:17 AM »
Just wondering why is it taken as a given that 6 Cos residents would be down  £5k in a UI.?
Would their pay not rise to the equivalent of the 26 Co workers? ?
It's us who would likely be down €5k as things are at present.

It's laughable, really. Some North Koreans probably fear reunification because a carthorse costs more in the South.

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Exports from the Republic are €89bn while from the North, exports are a paltry €6bn. This obviously reflects multinationals, but it also underscores just how far ahead the Republic’s industrial base is. Producing 15 times more exports underscores a vast difference in terms of the globalisation of business.

The Republic’s economy is now four times that of the North, even though the labour force is not even two-and-a-half times bigger.
 
In terms of income per head, the Republic is now almost twice as rich per person as the North. The average income per head in the Republic is €39,873, while it languishes at €23,700 up North.

The differing fortunes of North and South can be easily seen in the fact that, having been smaller than Belfast at the time of partition, the population of the greater Dublin area is now almost three times bigger than the greater Belfast metropolitan region.


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« Reply #661 on: May 09, 2018, 10:41:06 AM »
Yes, McWilliams sums it up well when he says (paraphrasing here) that "People from the North complain about the price of a pint in Dublin.  What they really should be saying is why are my wages so low"

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« Reply #662 on: May 09, 2018, 10:54:30 AM »
Yes, McWilliams sums it up well when he says (paraphrasing here) that "People from the North complain about the price of a pint in Dublin.  What they really should be saying is why are my wages so low"

...or don't go near Dublin.

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« Reply #663 on: May 09, 2018, 11:03:23 AM »
Benefits of unification also that there is greater potential to redress a dublin centric enonomy

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« Reply #664 on: May 09, 2018, 11:04:00 AM »
Just wondering why is it taken as a given that 6 Cos residents would be down  £5k in a UI.?
Would their pay not rise to the equivalent of the 26 Co workers? ?
It's us who would likely be down €5k as things are at present.

It's laughable, really. Some North Koreans probably fear reunification because a carthorse costs more in the South.

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/star-trek-boldly-predicting-the-return-of-the-north-in-2024-might-yet-come-to-pass/
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Exports from the Republic are €89bn while from the North, exports are a paltry €6bn. This obviously reflects multinationals, but it also underscores just how far ahead the Republic’s industrial base is. Producing 15 times more exports underscores a vast difference in terms of the globalisation of business.

The Republic’s economy is now four times that of the North, even though the labour force is not even two-and-a-half times bigger.
 
In terms of income per head, the Republic is now almost twice as rich per person as the North. The average income per head in the Republic is €39,873, while it languishes at €23,700 up North.

The differing fortunes of North and South can be easily seen in the fact that, having been smaller than Belfast at the time of partition, the population of the greater Dublin area is now almost three times bigger than the greater Belfast metropolitan region.


http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/northern-ireland-and-the-trip-advisor-index-of-economic-vibrancy/
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Immigration is a traditional indicator of economic vitality. In the Republic, one in six people are immigrants, the corresponding figure for the North is one in a hundred.

Stripping out multinational fraud and 15% shenanigans, indigenous export performance isn't much better than NI.
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« Reply #665 on: May 09, 2018, 11:52:05 AM »

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« Reply #666 on: May 09, 2018, 12:06:39 PM »
Spacecraft?????
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« Reply #667 on: May 09, 2018, 12:09:04 PM »
Spacecraft?????

Exactly....I know we are spacers😜

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« Reply #668 on: May 09, 2018, 12:10:59 PM »
Its looks like a set category, lumped in with aircraft

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« Reply #669 on: May 09, 2018, 02:23:24 PM »
It's us in the 26 need to be guaranteed we won't be impoverished by subsidising the 6 Cos basket case.

Does anybody in the south have principles or does absolutely everything come down to money?

Does anybody in the North have a brain or does absolutely everything come down to us v. them?
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« Reply #670 on: May 09, 2018, 02:26:12 PM »
Arlene has offered to help resolve the Enniskillen remembrance memorial. I assume she thinks that she is an honest broker!
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« Reply #671 on: May 09, 2018, 03:02:17 PM »
Just wondering why is it taken as a given that 6 Cos residents would be down  £5k in a UI.?
Would their pay not rise to the equivalent of the 26 Co workers? ?
It's us who would likely be down €5k as things are at present.


Yes sorry I was speaking hypothetically.

I was making the point that it won't come down to money for everyone and you don't have to be a hardline republican to appreciate sacrifice and my view is that positive or negative economics wouldn't effect my vote and I think there would be more than 20% in that camp.

I personally think after a change over period of some years that the Island would be a lot more prosperous for everyone so I think you could change a lot of minds in terms of think of your children and the benefit that they could get from this!

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« Reply #672 on: May 09, 2018, 03:10:32 PM »
Arlene has offered to help resolve the Enniskillen remembrance memorial. I assume she thinks that she is an honest broker!

Basically calling out the St Michael's trust to embarrass them.

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« Reply #673 on: May 09, 2018, 03:12:58 PM »
Just wondering why is it taken as a given that 6 Cos residents would be down  £5k in a UI.?
Would their pay not rise to the equivalent of the 26 Co workers? ?
It's us who would likely be down €5k as things are at present.

It's laughable, really. Some North Koreans probably fear reunification because a carthorse costs more in the South.


Nice analogy :D :D

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« Reply #674 on: May 09, 2018, 03:38:42 PM »
Arlene has offered to help resolve the Enniskillen remembrance memorial. I assume she thinks that she is an honest broker!

Basically calling out the St Michael's trust to embarrass them.

What is the craic there alright?

Firstly I presume they gave the go ahead for a memorial in the first place as it would be bad manners for anyone to apply for something on someone else's property and then to pull the plug!

Is it to do with the size or wording on it as it being alluded to?