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Jaysus Main Street, you're reallly struggling with that result   

If a player falls and still has the ball in possession when he hits the ground, then he can touch it on the ground, to strike it away. This seems just like clarification in a scoring position, which admittedly isn't too likely. I presume its to avoid having to harshly give a free against a player who falls with the ball in his hands, for touching it on the ground.

We'll draw a line under it ok? Read that post, it was an over obvious attempt to provoke a reaction in a light-hearted way.
I'd forgotten about it, thanks for quoting, I feel an enormous sense of satisfaction reading it,for it was vindicated by the game!

And I'll be honest, I was arrogant going into the game, but sure, I was right. 

Ok, ok, it is a message board, and is exactly the forum to post opinion, but no msg is in isolation. If noone got slated for past comments, or getting a game utterly wrong, there wouldnt be any craic. Friends? Love your neighbour and all that.....
Here, you can even have the last word!!!

You're right Maguire, none of the pictures were fermanagh men. Some of the ones with me thought the bottom one was anthony lynch, but I think myself it may have been the three MOM candidates of another game shown that night - i was in the pub and only seen the fer-mon game. Poor tho, but I'm sure they'll recognise them by september 

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Firstly, agreed on the threat of physical violence, it was very much in jest, apologies if sounded a bit menacing. But....you're very easy to predict Maguire. Read the last sentence of the post. I dont know how to make font on quotes bigger, but if you were going to do that you should have had the decency to do it for the last sentence which clearly demonstrates that i'm aware of the contradiction. I posted the 'with all due respect...' after there had been a heated debate on a m'han fans use (may even have been you) of the phrase before slating fermanagh. I used the phrase and went on to do the same to m'han to demonstrate a point.
And yes, when I say 'With all due respect...', I, like everyone else who has ever said it, am about to be very derogatory.

As for lack of knowledge, that isn't a problem at all, it doesnt matter if you know nothing or if you're an AI winning manager, but when you have little knowledge you shouldnt attempt to weigh in with the definitive judgement, which you regularly do. As for egs, read from page 1 on this thread.

I dont want to get into a childish feud, and there definitely is an element of gloating about my earlier post, but I think some leeway should be given; I thought you had a very arrogant attitude going into this game, moreso than other posters, and i've been waiting for this. I notice that you've retained it also - being gracious in defeat is not saying '...fermanagh were miles better yesterday' and in the same breath making ridiculous excuses for m'han. If you want to realise where m'han are at, but believe that anyone outside the county is slating them if they try to tell you, then read bingobuses post - an honest assessment, and what m'han need if they are to move on.

I think its a case of assessing where your team are at mentally, and adjusting factors such as media bans accordingly. When a team is below the mental intensity you want them to be at, then things like media bans, wristbands etc can all help to focus their minds. When a team is in danger of becoming too pent up, a more relaxed attitude to media etc is better. When I read about the media ban, I thought that no team in the country was less likely to benefit than m'han, given that their manager loves the papers so it was a big change not to talk to press, and with the pressure that was on them, they did not need any more 'winding up'.

Analysing and comparing performance over the past 5-10 years is academic.  It's what is happening now that matters.  Last year is being used as the mesure because it is the most recent championship form to compare to.

Thats a bizarre argument - dont use the last five, just use last yr?? Surely its a more accurate measuring stick if you use a longer period - you dont need to know stats to work that one out.

Anyway, all I care about is this yr now. With all due respect to monaghan, if their best team meets our best team, I expect a fermanagh win. I'd even go so far as to say it wouldnt be scraped - it certainly wouldnt be comfortable, but in the region of 3 pts or so. Have to say, I'm really looking forward to the game, cant rem hype like it for first round, and I think its down to the two sets of fans confidence in their own team, which is the way it should be. Usually one set of fans go more in hope than expectation, but this year I think both sets expect a win, which adds to the banter.

About the teams, I cant see freeman busting forward too often. Little is fly, and if freeman leaves him to support the attack and theres a hint of it breaking down, you can bet little will be completely free at the opposite side of the field receiving the ball. Frog hasnt been going well, but I think midfield will be ok for him, disrupting lennon. Think it will be three across the middle for monaghan, and if thats the case, then would expect clerkin to pick up womble, and would be very confident of either tommy mcelroy or damien kelly doing a good job on finlay, and giving him plenty to worry about defensively too. Both have great engines and are used to playing in the middle.

Roll on Sun!!

I just love it when a plan comes together......
(which isn't too often going by the spreads comp tables  )

About the game, I have to say I agree with just about everything Bingobus said. I dont think M'han will give the qualifiers a rattle at all, for a few reasons. If I was sitting on that m'han bench and I seen woods been taken off for being crap, then put back on again, I wouldnt be at training on tues. And a few said to me that there was nothing else on the bench - a county the size of m'han should have better players than that - are the coaching structures not there?  M'han were coming into that game yesterday thinking they were much better than they were, and it was a massive psychological blow to get utterly found out. Its not all doom and gloom for them; 2004 was great for Fermanagh, and brought the team on, but there was always going to be a lull after it. Fermanagh are a much better team now than 2004, and that stands however far they go this yr. They had a freak yr, which has given them the platform to build on for this yr. I think it will be a similar for m'han, in three yrs time, they willl be decent side. I think this is prob the end for the banty too, or should be.
About fermanghs chances...this is certainly the best prepared fermanagh side ever; yesterday Fermanagh weren't great, but still got the result quite comfortably, which gives me a lot of hope. The wides worry me, but it may not have been apparent on the tv, there was a very strong wind, which was swirling around and making shooting, esp into 1 side in particular, v difficult, so hopefully  that was the main reason. I disagree with the comment that derry/donegal have a stronger midfield, I think our midfield partnership are gonna show how good they really are this yr. Could fermanagh win ulster? I've never been as hopeful.....

And maguire01, when you've demonstrated fully your sporting knowledge like you have over the past few weeks, you're better not 'coming back to a few earlier quotes'. 'All due respect to fermanagh' - if someone ever actually says that to my face I'll hit them, so heres hoping I meet you somewhere... . And I know you are now trawling through the above and spluttering with indignation at the hypocrisy, before you do, check a few posts before my quote, and you'll see why that sentence is there...

Sure i see you're dodgin about that thread yourself, I'll leave you to throw it on with the source. Right, off to ekn!!!

That is a classic interview!! Gonna put it on the 'journalist write-off thread - where'd it come from kiddo?

Would also be sceptical of the freeman thing; its notable that the banty was quieter than he's ever been in his life before (it musta been killin him  ) along with the rest of the monaghan panel, yet theres a release about their key player on the morning of the game. It may be true, but it prob wont keep him outta the game. May be a calculated risk not to start him, knowing that if he can be brought on and the games still tight, it will be a massive lift to m'han, and he could carry them over the line. Mebbe i'm over analysing this....
...but then again I'm sure a crack shot like tommy freeman wouldnt shoot himself in the hand (and m'han in the foot) 

[niveau]

Think that Malachy has a wee surprise for us on Sunday.
A former friend of Noel Edmonds was seen on Brewster with the Fermanagh panel on the niveau pitch in Enniskillen.
In some shape too.

'Niveau' - french for 'level', or did you mean 'nouveau', new? Or were you just locked?? Thats old news about Mr Blobby taking the warm-up anyway...

Soem of them not only reading it, but posting as well - how else do you explain the supporting comments   

Analysing and comparing performance over the past 5-10 years is academic.  It's what is happening now that matters.  Last year is being used as the mesure because it is the most recent championship form to compare to.

Thats a bizarre argument - dont use the last five, just use last yr?? Surely its a more accurate measuring stick if you use a longer period - you dont need to know stats to work that one out.

Anyway, all I care about is this yr now. With all due respect to monaghan, if their best team meets our best team, I expect a fermanagh win. I'd even go so far as to say it wouldnt be scraped - it certainly wouldnt be comfortable, but in the region of 3 pts or so. Have to say, I'm really looking forward to the game, cant rem hype like it for first round, and I think its down to the two sets of fans confidence in their own team, which is the way it should be. Usually one set of fans go more in hope than expectation, but this year I think both sets expect a win, which adds to the banter.

About the teams, I cant see freeman busting forward too often. Little is fly, and if freeman leaves him to support the attack and theres a hint of it breaking down, you can bet little will be completely free at the opposite side of the field receiving the ball. Frog hasnt been going well, but I think midfield will be ok for him, disrupting lennon. Think it will be three across the middle for monaghan, and if thats the case, then would expect clerkin to pick up womble, and would be very confident of either tommy mcelroy or damien kelly doing a good job on finlay, and giving him plenty to worry about defensively too. Both have great engines and are used to playing in the middle.

Roll on Sun!!

Fermpundit, is that just a hunch you have that clucker will be marking freeman, or a bit more? I cant see it myself, we've got other players who could do as good a man-marking job on Freeman, but no other players who can control the game form chb as well as clucker, i reckon thats where he'll be. Wouldnt mind seeing goan pick him up, but as we seen on sun its the ball in thats the problem. The antrim man was winning the battle with johnston til the battle further outfield started to be lost. If theres good ball going into any decent forward, the defender wont have a chance.

GMF, I know the point you're making, but I think this situation is a little different. Everyone knew his commitments from the start, and there was no bad feeling at all about him not being there. The team, esp the forward line hasn't been settled at all, so he wont be disrupting any possible balance, and also, I haven't heard one rumour of discontent about him belatedly joining the squad. When there is opposition,then more harm than good can be done, no matter the talent, but I think that isnt the case here (esp cos cant see him starting).

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Good post GMF, and of course you're well entitled to your opinion, but Q.E.D. means "that which was to have been demonstrated"), whereas you are more lining out "that which is to be demonstrated", so i'll have to mark you down on your grammar I'm afraid!

Serious note, Freeman is the worry. Finlay will put over frees etc,  but I think if the games in the fire, he wont pull it out for youse. Even off-form freeman will score 3 -5 points, and if corey isnt dealt with he will have a goal as well i fear. Owens is a massive loss. Its a great feeling seeing a high ball hoofed into the oppo full forward and being able to relax cos you know owens will be there. On sun I'll b be bricking it every time that happens. Murphy could well have a screamer in the middle, i imagine clerkin will be trying to stop him, but on current form that batle will only go one way.

Its my belief that Fermanagh are the better footballing side, I'll be praying for good weather and fast ground, and then I think we'll take yous. If its a scrappy game, then it will be tougher for us, but we're safe enough - sure theres little chance of an USFC game been scrappy 

couldnt see it, tho he'll prob come on. Check out the ferm v mon thread, theres reportsof him been bought out of his glens contract. Dunno how much reliance i'd place on that, esp given that its downtime for the IFA currently, contract could well have just been for yr anyway.