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#16
I did quite a bit of research when I was doing it - doesn't take long to read up on 4 c's and some good advice out there on what to prioritise. I found this article v good https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2002/feb/13/shopping.familyandrelationships1#:~:text=The%20Four%20Cs,%2C%20colour%2C%20clarity%20and%20carat.

I also found that online retailers were much much better value than local jewellers. I used jamesallen.com. You select a diamond, then a fitting. I decided what I wanted in terms of a diamond and checked against local jewellers who seemed to only have worse stones, for significantly higher prices, certainly within the bracket I was looking.

V happy with whole process, and my wife loves it.
#17
General discussion / Re: Feile an Phobail
August 17, 2022, 10:22:19 AM
Agreed
#18
General discussion / Re: Price of a Pint
June 24, 2022, 11:19:15 AM
He has come out with utter rubbish at various times that has been fact checked, so has zero credibility. Was all over the media with this gem lately

"Larne's business rates on the main street are the same as Regent Street in London."
#19
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 22, 2022, 02:18:36 AM
But what do you expect, out of the no of people called at my door, am more qualified than them work wise by a country Mile, so if we gona vote then in, can we expect no less than. A place run like a mess. How no one addressed the f**k up set up of the doctors current call at 8:30 for a appointment is a joke. Been trying to get a appointment from middle of last week, always booked out and u can't book for a date later in the week. My pet cat gets better f**king care at the vets. And the dentists are seeing people so Doctors have no Excuse.

Why don't you run?
#20
General discussion / Re: Missing Posters
April 13, 2022, 09:09:02 AM
RIP Lar. Sad news
#21
Quote from: yellowcard on February 01, 2022, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on February 01, 2022, 02:19:20 PM
RDE has apparently only now become a Unionist  ;D
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opinion/columnists/ruth-dudley-edwards-its-official-i-am-now-a-unionist-3549958

Ever since Ben Lowry became editor of the Newsletter a few months ago, it has become a propaganda newspaper for extreme Unionism and loyalism. It would appear to be an orchestrated attempt to ramp up the paranoia, fear and division that have always been the calling card for loyalism.

It has long been that, its just gotten a bit worse.
#22
It was the elephant in the room when they were discussing england stealing their anthem a few weeks ago - I couldn't believe noone pointed out the norn irn version had its own unique twist.

I think unionist culture is still so engrained at all levels in the north that it just isn't seen as an issue. Chances are those that reviewed had never heard a version without FTP in it. Nolan sets the agenda for what is and isn't worth following up anyway, so this, nor the flute band, nor many other examples of engrained sectarianism will ever be challenged properly.
#23
General discussion / Re: People you admire
June 08, 2021, 09:22:44 AM
I think she should be judged like anyone else, against general standards of human decency, not the standards of the DUP.

She is far worse than Poots because she was happy to go along with whatever suppression of rights kept her in power, while seemingly not actually supporting what she was doing (as she'd have us believe now) herself. How could you be any more heinous than going along with all of that for pure personal interest. At least Poots professes to believe in the misguided principles he supports. Arlene is now backtracking to try to sanitise herself for a future career. And judging by on here it'll work.

Her spiel about 'the dup not being the party she joined' - its just absolute crap. They were even worse when she joined them. Also coming out with that they weren't the party she thought they were - as someone pointed out in Twitter, as the leader for the last 5 years, they are the party she led them to be. She is a publicity hungry nasty piece of work.

References have been made to her past trauma - she is far from alone in this in the political arena in the north. She deserves sympathy for that, but she doesn't deserve allowances for that in her political career; if she can't get past it then its quite clearly not the career for her.
#24
General discussion / Re: People you admire
June 08, 2021, 08:24:37 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 07, 2021, 08:44:34 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on June 07, 2021, 05:32:25 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 05, 2021, 10:58:34 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on June 04, 2021, 02:15:05 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 23, 2021, 11:24:12 PM
I have great respect for Mickey Harte because of his dtremendous dignity under pressure as he coped with the death of his daughter. I have reservations about much that Mickey has done but, like Aidan McGinely of recent times., Mickey and his wife were an inspitation to us all.
More controversial perhaps, I admire Arlene Foster who crossed deep sectarian divides to attend the Harte funeral.

I do not understand this in the slightest
What do you not understand? Do you think she should not have attended in order to conform with the usual stereotypes? Her religious beliefs prevented here attending the mass but she turned up for the graveside ceremonies and in doing so she probably upset more of her own supporters than anyone else.
There was nothing to be gained politically by her going there- just a token of respect for the ordeal the Harte and McAravey families were going through.

I think you are mixing up a number of things here. Can you tell me how her religious beliefs prevent her attending the mass? In any event 'in doing so she upset a number of her own supporters' - are you really excusing her bigotry and those of her supporters by admiring her for taking a slight step away from it? Your bar is set incredibly low. And of course there was something to gain politically (not that I'm saying that was necessarily what her attendance was for) - hasn't she fooled people like you into thinking she's a decent sort despite being a hateful bigot (as you state yourself in your response)?
She hasn't fooled me in the slightest. It goes against my nature to admit that I find anything done by the DUP or any of its members to be worthy of praise but to an impartial observer that would make me a bigot also.
I am told that the reason she attended the Harte funeral was because she felt sorry for Mrs harte  and genuinely wanted to show her understanding of a mother's grief. One mother expressing concern for another in her time of deepest grief is a human trait that crosses all sorts of political and cultural divisions.
I'm afraid I don't see how she could have hoped to gain anything politically by doing what she did- contrary to her perceived form. I can't warm to the DUP in any shape or form and the fact that Arlene is not  longer in that party doesn't bother me one way or the other.

One mother showing support for another rises above sectarian battle lines for me.

PS I must really be losing the plot big time! ;D
I recall seeing a (very reasonable) post by imtommygunne and I intended responding to it but when I went to look for it again, I couldn't' find it.
I'm genuinely stuck for time at the moment but I'll resume my search when I get a chance. ( Maybe 'll be locked up first.) Lol

'Sectarian battle lines' are not a major, or even a minor feature, of life in the north. I think you have swallowed a narrative on the Troubles which northern nationalists would not recognise.

Many people attend funerals of those of other faiths and always have done. That Arlene has deliberately drawn such attention to any such gesture she makes, when the rest of us would consider it the most basic of human decency, should tell you all you need to know about her.
#25
General discussion / Re: People you admire
June 07, 2021, 05:39:17 PM
Lar, posted my response before having read the rest of the replies. I do wonder how it is that many seem keen to fall over themselves to bestow praise on a unionist for looking sideways at them but would never even consider anything the other way as at all noteworthy in any respect. Where does that come from? Hard to see it as anything but tugging the forelock  :-\

#26
General discussion / Re: People you admire
June 07, 2021, 05:32:25 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 05, 2021, 10:58:34 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on June 04, 2021, 02:15:05 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 23, 2021, 11:24:12 PM
I have great respect for Mickey Harte because of his dtremendous dignity under pressure as he coped with the death of his daughter. I have reservations about much that Mickey has done but, like Aidan McGinely of recent times., Mickey and his wife were an inspitation to us all.
More controversial perhaps, I admire Arlene Foster who crossed deep sectarian divides to attend the Harte funeral.

I do not understand this in the slightest
What do you not understand? Do you think she should not have attended in order to conform with the usual stereotypes? Her religious beliefs prevented here attending the mass but she turned up for the graveside ceremonies and in doing so she probably upset more of her own supporters than anyone else.
There was nothing to be gained politically by her going there- just a token of respect for the ordeal the Harte and McAravey families were going through.

I think you are mixing up a number of things here. Can you tell me how her religious beliefs prevent her attending the mass? In any event 'in doing so she upset a number of her own supporters' - are you really excusing her bigotry and those of her supporters by admiring her for taking a slight step away from it? Your bar is set incredibly low. And of course there was something to gain politically (not that I'm saying that was necessarily what her attendance was for) - hasn't she fooled people like you into thinking she's a decent sort despite being a hateful bigot (as you state yourself in your response)?
#27
General discussion / Re: People you admire
June 04, 2021, 02:15:05 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 23, 2021, 11:24:12 PM
I have great respect for Mickey Harte because of his dtremendous dignity under pressure as he coped with the death of his daughter. I have reservations about much that Mickey has done but, like Aidan McGinely of recent times., Mickey and his wife were an inspitation to us all.
More controversial perhaps, I admire Arlene Foster who crossed deep sectarian divides to attend the Harte funeral.

I do not understand this in the slightest
#28
So you're in posting about Armagh camogie   ;D Good stuff.
#29
'Whataboutery' doesn't dismiss the points, nor is it deflection. Everything being relative to everything else, or 'whataboutery' if you will, is key to for one thing the functioning of justice, and for another, setting any sort of standard for behaviour.

This is part of a wider conversation, you can choose to bury your head in the sand about that or not, but it doesn't change the fact. Your response seems to suggest that yes, you don't think its the 'old' uvf they are celebrating either, yet these events are embraced by unionism as a whole - a uvf wreath was placed at city hall on remembrance day (i believe the attached statement  included conflicts since the WWs). Very hard to take criticism from those quarters on matters like this, and undoubtedly contributes to a mood of defiance, especially at a time when, incredibly, it seems we are expected to celebrate a state which systematically discriminated against us.

You can be selective in your criticism, but you should try not to be blind to, nor dismiss as 'whataboutery' attempts to place it in society as a whole, which, if you'd any interest in actually changing the behaviour, is essential.

#30
Who's to say it was the PIRA they were singing it about? Does the 'old' UVF excuse that seems to be accepted by society in the north only work for unionism?  ::)

Meanwhile Armagh camogie association makes an apology and the same people who are falling over themselves to say its not good enough are lauding the IFA for doing a fantastic job combatting sectarianism when in actual fact they continually just sweep it under the carpet. I imagine everyone would be a lot more inclined to consider their behaviour, if it wasn't so galling listening to complete hypocrites pontificate about it.

*I should say, that's not directed at you specifically EG, more those prominent in society in the north

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/12/17/news/-identify-and-punish-those-who-sang-secarian-chant---glentoran-2162634/