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Messages - haranguerer

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You can have a dashcam also.

Just to point out, by and large if a motorist makes a mistake the cyclist risks death or serious injury; the motorist is likely to be ok. If a cyclist makes a mistake, the cyclist risks death or serious injury; the motorist is likely to be ok.
Hence the food chain comment.

As a car driver on a narrow road, I exercise extreme caution when larger vehicles appear on the horizon. The driver of the other vehicle will exercise the same caution, but itís of greater importance to me to manage my space carefully, as in the event of a collision, itíll be my last action on this earth, regardless of culpability.

Whereas all too often, I witness cyclists who seem oblivious to this concept. The contrast with the behaviour of motorcyclists is stark.

This is the point that cyclists, uniquely among road users, seem as a group unable or unwilling to comprehend. On an anecdotal level it seems to me to spring from a militancy as a group that drives them to insist on their equal status as road users and on a consequent right to impede the progress of traffic whose normal speed is much greater than theirs. This will extend to cycling two abreast on a bendy road where a car travelling under the speed limit may be forced to take extreme evasive action on rounding a bend to avoid killing one of these morons. Do they really expect that all drivers should proceed at the average speed of a bike in case they should encounter one on rounding a bend?

You don't see pedestrians behaving like this. As a group, they seem to grasp the concept that it doesn't matter if you're right (as you see it) if you're dead and so they will take steps to protect themselves from traffic that may not necessarily know they're there.

And when we question this level of stupidity among the militant cycling tendency, WE are accused of being indifferent to their welfare - ignoring the fact that WE are the ones taking the trouble to point out this danger to their welfare.

'bendy road travelling under the speed limit' - if you're using the speed limit as the guide to what is safe on a bendy road where there could be anything round the next corner, not just cyclists, you're the moron, not them.

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You can have a dashcam also.

Just to point out, by and large if a motorist makes a mistake the cyclist risks death or serious injury; the motorist is likely to be ok. If a cyclist makes a mistake, the cyclist risks death or serious injury; the motorist is likely to be ok.

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I know a couple of cyclists who now have recording devices on the rear of their bikes, not sure it's doing them any good (mentally anyway) as it's bringing home how vulnerable we really are and how much some motorists don't give a f**k. Some young fellas with the R plates reported to the cops within the first week of use.

As mentioned earlier by someone else phone use whilst driving is really scary. The amount of people doing it is ridiculous.

Agreed. Itís a bizarre thing that after 30 years of convincing then forcing people that putting on a seatbelt is not a punishment so much as a lifesaver, that we now have to go through it all again with phone usage in cars. People just wonít accept that theyíre in charge of a lethal weapon. People are c***ts.

But without meaning to continue to pillory our two wheeled friends, whatís even scarier again is a cyclist with headphones in, whoís determined to take the shortest route to their destination. At least the mobile phone driver will be sticking to the roads.

Are you for real? How is a cyclist with headphones in, taking the shortest route scary for you? Darwin's Law will take soon take care of such people though in all honesty I do not think there are too many cyclists out there who are think they will cut up a car as they are in a hurry.

A driver with a mindset like yours, [of which there appears to be many on this board], on the other hand is a seriously scary prospect for any cyclist.

I know secondhand 2 people that were killed whilst cycling, easy to see why in hindsight.


What? Hold on. What? So, because Iím highlighting that some people on bicycles are effectively wishing an accident upon themselves, that this means I have a ďmindsetĒ that is scary for cyclists? For pointing out that they should be more careful?

f**k me. If a cyclist is in the wrong, heís in the wrong. Just accept it and get in with it. Donít defend him because he happens to be sat on a saddle.

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For some reason, cyclists seem unwilling / unable / immune towards accepting their place on this food chain. Usually citing some bullshit about being here before cars, theyíll ride where they want, when they want, and are determined that itís everyone elseís responsibility to look out for them.

It takes a particularly selfish and insular personality trait to behave like on public roads. Hence, people who are drawn to cycling on roads are, by and large, c***ts.

This is your mindset. There is a 'foodchain' on the road and cyclists are at the bottom of it. Noone else should have responsibility for looking out for them.

They are, by and large selfish, insular c***ts - not much of a leap to say this attitude of yours is would also extend to whatever happens to them is their own fault

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GAA Discussion / Re: Concerned Gaels
« on: Today at 08:48:25 AM »
Just to point out, its impossible for the GAA to 'remain politically neutral' as it never has been

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Neil McGee, predictably (and correctly in my opinion) will miss the match after his appeal failed.

Leaves us a bit short of muscle in the full back line against a sizable Fermanagh full forward line. Especially as his natural replacement and club mate, Kieran Gillespie, is still out injured.

Think midfield will be the winning of this. We presumably will push up again on the kick out, but I seriously doubt Fermanagh will be as clueless and ill-prepared as Down were, especially with big, capable men in midfield themselves. Will Fermanagh drop off us though like they did with Monaghan?

The question is whether that sizeable full forward line will be used. So far, Fermanagh have concentrated on creating overlaps and working the ball up, while keeping it tight at the back. We haven't seen the best of any of that first choice ff line due to that, but its a great plan B to have. Personally would like to see Seamie, Sean, and Tomas start, but hard to know whats going on with Seamie, and a more utility player with greater work rate may be preferred to Tomas (who was fantastic off the bench v monaghan).

Midfield definitely the key. Very impressed with Patton, but the key to the Down game was Downs kickouts, most of which were kicked to Donegal men. That shouldn't happen re Fermanagh, but still get the feeling Donegal definitely have an advantage on kick outs. I think the tendency will be to drop off on Donegal kick outs - but with Ryan McHugh in particular in superb form, running from deep is just another strength of Donegals.

The most likely scenario is for Fermanagh to keep it tight, but ultimately come up short - a scoring burst in the last 5/10 min putting a gloss on it for Donegal. But Fermanaghs defence and tackling has been superb, and if we can nick a goal or two, then a famous upset could be on the cards.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Concerned Gaels
« on: Today at 08:29:05 AM »
HQ need to stand their ground on this one. A very small but very loud minority support this politicising of the games. It remains incredibly distasteful to me that these people use the Palestinian cause as a prop to further their own selfish ends.

If anyone wants to pretend that all but a few of these people have any real interest in their plights and it isnít yet another attempt to try to wind up unionists in the north, cop on. Creating divisions rather than trying to bridge them, even in sport.

You are UNBELIEVABLY clueless. A complete f**king idiot firing round falsehoods and stupid opinions on everything under the sun. Unless you're a WUM, I don't know why you bother.

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And whether tongue in cheek or not, the attitude displayed on here does have an impact in how cyclists are treated. I cycle infrequently now, but when I did I always sought to show courtesy, didn't break red lights or drive on pavements, and called out those who did. Despite that, I noticed people went out of their way to give abuse or act the dick - and that has to be down to the general opinion that its ok to be a dick to cyclists because they hold you up a little.

Honestly surprised by the attitudes of those on here who I thought would know a little better.

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: June 19, 2018, 10:20:18 AM »
I'm not on here to defend cyclists but lads use a we bit of your wit, if a motorist starts doing donuts on a road or causes a serious crash from driving like a dick you don't start shouting ban all motorists. In cycling there obviously are some dicks about and deserve a boot up the hole but you can't just say ban all cyclists because there are a few morons out there.

I get what youíre saying.

But motorcyclists are generally the most cautious people on our roads. Their movements are usually so deliberate. Car drivers meanwhile  tend to give more room to white van drivers, who in turn give more room to bus drivers, who in turn give more room to HGV drivers. This chain is completely natural, as an increased chance of getting crushed to death, usually evokes greater caution.

For some reason, cyclists seem unwilling / unable / immune towards accepting their place on this food chain. Usually citing some bullshit about being here before cars, theyíll ride where they want, when they want, and are determined that itís everyone elseís responsibility to look out for them.

It takes a particularly selfish and insular personality trait to behave like on public roads. Hence, people who are drawn to cycling on roads are, by and large, c***ts.

What a load of shit.

People aren't drawn to cycling on roads, they're drawn to cycling and, by and large there isn't anywhere else to cycle.

There are definitely some w**ker cyclists, perhaps even greater than in the general population, but I imagine most want the benefits of that sort of exercise and sport, without pissing anyone off or getting killed. It does appear to be a very emotive issue, I can only assume that its because our roads aren't designed to accommodate cars and bicycles, and maybe thats the issue we should be tackling

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GAA Discussion / Re: Heaney blasts BBCNI
« on: June 19, 2018, 08:59:22 AM »
The coverage is deliberately poor, and it has a major impact on how the sport is seen in the North by the wider community. As MacKenna points out, they never have a gaelic game live on BBC Radio FM, but regularly have soccer games, when GAA dwarfs it in the north in participant numbers and attendances.



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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: June 18, 2018, 03:36:43 PM »
Why couldn't Fermanagh meet Tyrone?

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General discussion / Re: Arlene's bigotry shines through
« on: June 13, 2018, 05:19:17 PM »
I never mentioned the SDLP but it obviously bothers you.

FM is hugely symbolic for the DUP and unionism and it holding on to the post has been the cornerstone to DUP electioneering for virtually all assembly elections. Equally it is a key target for SF to show that it has dominated the DUP. To say otherwise is nonsense.

If DUP push on getting seating to be the largest party to retain FM post then the UUP must lose out as there is virtually no cross community voting between DUP and the SF and SDLP blocks.  So, the UUP has lost ground to the DUP in every election since the St Andrews agreement.

You've put the demise of the UUP over the last 10 years down to how the FM is elected. That is just utter rubbish. So is the part about SF or their voters caring about it.

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General discussion / Re: Arlene's bigotry shines through
« on: June 13, 2018, 03:21:52 PM »
You have vastly overstated the importance of first minister, both in duties and symbolically.

FM has never really been a concern for anyone at elections (notwithstanding that the DUP did use it a little to scaremonger in the last election) and it certainly has never been mentioned in relation to SF. So that part is total crap. To then attempt to link this up to explain why the UUP (and SDLP) have faded away is ludicrous.

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http://fermanagh.gaa.ie/fermanagh-gaa-statement-5/

Never happened apparently, could be the donegal ones up to their tricks

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General discussion / Re: Arlene's bigotry shines through
« on: June 13, 2018, 02:46:36 PM »
Quit talking shit

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulsters perspective on coaching
« on: June 13, 2018, 09:43:43 AM »
So your blaming "constant rule changes"  isn't right.

Maybe defenders were better coached or taught how to tackle back in the old days?


This is one of the most ludicrous things I've ever seen on the board. Defensive play now is light years ahead of where it was in the past, even the recent past. Tackling is infinitely more disciplined, due to refs blowing quicker, and advantage, all of which makes for a much better game.

If you think the current crop of poor games is a permanent malaise, then well and good, but it isn't down to the defensive play, which has improved immeasurably - its down to attacking play not being focused on (for now)

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