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General discussion / Re: Arlene's bigotry shines through
« on: February 15, 2018, 04:53:05 PM »
Heard that - he came across like a right p***k

You should let us all know - pm me if you cant broadcast it

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General discussion / Re: Arlene's bigotry shines through
« on: February 15, 2018, 03:37:18 PM »
http://eamonnmallie.com/2018/02/sinn-fein-dup-deal-crashed-eamonn-mallie/

The usual utter abdication of leadership within unionism

The last line is a load of absolute horseshit tho - it wasn't the unionist people who scared off the DUP

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General discussion / Re: Arlene's bigotry shines through
« on: February 15, 2018, 02:19:32 PM »
One wonders why you waste your time teaching it if you believe its a complete waste - sounds like a good way to spend the majority of your waking hours

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General discussion / Re: Arlene's bigotry shines through
« on: February 15, 2018, 09:09:45 AM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43069450

Just on equality, noteworthy that every time there are articles like this on the BBC, there are two unionist viewpoints given (Beltel and Newsletter) v 1 nationalist viewpoint (IN). BBCNI is supposed to represent the people here - yet their analysis articles are regularly skewed and propogate the notion that nationalism is being unreasonable. Part of the problem...

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General discussion / Re: Arlene's bigotry shines through
« on: February 14, 2018, 04:56:41 PM »
Jesus what a bunch of w**kers up here.

Why don't both give the other what they want, and in turn they win themselves in the long run.

SF agree to DUP requests - shows unionists that theyd be accommodated in a UI
DUP agree to SF requests - shows nationalists theyre better off in UK, and SF would have nothing to complain about. Support for a UI would diminish.

SF are pushing the ILA so far unionists will despise anything Irish even more (if thats possible) than they do already. And vice versa.

I honestly think Stormont is all about the few in both parties, lining their own pockets, feeding their egos. They don't give a flying fcuk for anyone in this hellhole. But all this shite filters down from Stormont into the general population making it an intolerable cesspit for the ordinary joe.

ffs. Where have you been living your lifetime? at what point does it stop? Nationalists were supposed to have equality - do they? There not being open state-sponsored discrimination is a long way from equality, and its the least that's deserved. The ILA is the vehicle that demonstrates the DUP have no interest in equality - thats how it has gained such prominence. Wake up and look around before falling into the claptrap being repeated by unionists claiming to talk sense. This isn't supposed to be their NI any more, its supposed to belong to all of us. I can see why they find it hard to give up power they've held for decades, i fail to see how you are ignorant enough not to recognise what is really going on here.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 13, 2018, 06:20:06 PM »
Most of what is reported are direct transcripts of what was said which wouldn't seem to leave much room for inaccuracy or interpretation though obviously we're not told every word that was said either.

I thought the underwear being shown to the court was under-reported. I only saw it on Frank Greaney's twitter feed. Can't see any justification for it. Humiliating and irrelevant , assuming it's true of course.

It seems we're all just seeing snippets, and everyone is joining the dots in their own manner. From what I saw one of the barristers was making the case that the bleeding was prior to the events in the house, and also that contrary to a claim the girl had made earlier that she wasn't wearing fake tan, there was fake tan on her clothes, this was the relevance of her clothes being shown.
I don't think this has been addressed yet.

The complainant never said she wasn't wearing fake tan, just that she was only wearing fake tan on the parts of her body that would have been visible during the night out.

‘Mr Kelly also quizzed her why there was spray tan on much of her clothes if she had only tanned the bottoms of her legs.

The complainant responded: “My top had a slit in it and I’d tanned the bits that were on show. That included my lower back as well. The point is I had not tanned my whole body. It was patchy and it looks ridiculous unless you have your clothes on.”’

Cheers sid - I wasnt trying to mislead it was a response to the relevance of her clothes. Like much of the trial there are two separate accounts.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 13, 2018, 06:05:30 PM »
https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/rugby-union/rugby-rape-trial-hears-paddy-12019038
The barrister continued: “It is Mr Jackson’s case that he never had sexual intercourse with you on that night. He says he digitally penetrated you while you were having oral sex with Mr Olding. Did he have sex with you?”

Think that answers it then? Being mr Jackson’s *case* means it’s must have been mentioned already in court - his police testimony doesn’t necessarily form part of his case? So just wasn’t reported...

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 13, 2018, 04:59:22 PM »
Trying to pull a fast one to get him on the stand perhaps? It would be hearsay, wouldn't it?

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 13, 2018, 04:22:35 PM »
Aye that seems strange alright - the prosecution are talking about what the defendant claims before he has actually claimed it in court. Surely couldn't be the case?

Theres a lot of stuff going on here, woman says didn't look like rape, but apparently prosecution has been allowed to make the focus of it that it contradicts something that paddy jackson has allegedly said?!

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 13, 2018, 03:31:07 PM »
 ;D

Sorry - its confusing aright. Frank Greaney on twitter has live updates. Being twitter theres not much detail, but headline points from each testimony

https://twitter.com/FrankGreaney?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 13, 2018, 03:28:00 PM »
ffs yes

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 13, 2018, 03:22:22 PM »
So the main witness says she didn’t think she witnessed a rape...could be crucial

This is not news.

I see Jackson denied a threesome taking place to the witness’ friend the morning after. He is now claiming Olding was in the room. Lying since square one.

Lads, are ye misreading something, or am I missing something? What I've seen is a witness saying she DIDN'T see into the room, but her friend said she saw a threesome. I don't think this is the witness who is supposed to have seen everything and the girl looked away from.

Aye, you're missing the second witness, the friend referred to in your snippet. At the end of the day, its clear none of us have a clue whats going on - no different to any other subject we all discuss on here I suppose....

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 13, 2018, 03:20:45 PM »
Most of what is reported are direct transcripts of what was said which wouldn't seem to leave much room for inaccuracy or interpretation though obviously we're not told every word that was said either.

I thought the underwear being shown to the court was under-reported. I only saw it on Frank Greaney's twitter feed. Can't see any justification for it. Humiliating and irrelevant , assuming it's true of course.

It seems we're all just seeing snippets, and everyone is joining the dots in their own manner. From what I saw one of the barristers was making the case that the bleeding was prior to the events in the house, and also that contrary to a claim the girl had made earlier that she wasn't wearing fake tan, there was fake tan on her clothes, this was the relevance of her clothes being shown.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 08, 2018, 02:15:08 PM »
Can you fathom any scenario given the course of events in which they might be innocent Syf?

If the evidence pointed to innocence I would happily say so. It does not.

That's a ludicrous answer to a straightforward honest question.

But seeing as its all you've got, can I ask what evidence points to guilt?

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 08, 2018, 02:00:58 PM »
Can you fathom any scenario given the course of events in which they might be innocent Syf?

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