2016 Championship draw......A & B Qualifers

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Rossfan

Anyone know who's A and B of the teams already in?
Antrim, Armagh, Derry, Leitrim, London,Limerick, Waterford, Longford, Wickla, Carlow, Wexford, Meath/Louth, Offaly/Westmeath, Dublin/Laois, Monaghan/Downand Donegal/Fermanagh.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

westbound

Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2016, 04:09:11 PM
Anyone know who's A and B of the teams already in?
Antrim, Armagh, Derry, Leitrim, London,Limerick, Waterford, Longford, Wickla, Carlow, Wexford, Meath/Louth, Offaly/Westmeath, Dublin/Laois, Monaghan/Downand Donegal/Fermanagh.

See the first post of this thread

Rossfan

Quote from: westbound on May 31, 2016, 04:37:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2016, 04:09:11 PM
Anyone know who's A and B of the teams already in?
Antrim, Armagh, Derry, Leitrim, London,Limerick, Waterford, Longford, Wickla, Carlow, Wexford, Meath/Louth, Offaly/Westmeath, Dublin/Laois, Monaghan/Downand Donegal/Fermanagh.

See the first post of this thread
Ta.
A section the tough one.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

westbound

Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2016, 05:03:14 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 31, 2016, 04:37:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2016, 04:09:11 PM
Anyone know who's A and B of the teams already in?
Antrim, Armagh, Derry, Leitrim, London,Limerick, Waterford, Longford, Wickla, Carlow, Wexford, Meath/Louth, Offaly/Westmeath, Dublin/Laois, Monaghan/Downand Donegal/Fermanagh.

See the first post of this thread
Ta.
A section the tough one.

Possibly.
It's definitely not as lopsided as last year was anyway - although we ended up on the 'easy' side and got beaten in enniskillen!

cornetto

An A and B system for the qualifying draws was introduced in 2014 and has been retained. The teams are designated as A or B depending on which half of their provincial championships they are initially drawn to play in. Although some teams receive byes in the early provincial rounds, they are usually drawn randomly into the round in which they enter the competition resulting in teams being designated as A or B randomly.

A: Clare, Limerick, Kerry, Roscommon, Leitrim, Sligo, Derry, Tyrone, Cavan, Armagh, Laois, Wicklow, Dublin, Louth,Carlow, Meath

B: Tipperary, Waterford, Cork, Mayo, London, Galway, Monaghan, Down, Donegal, Fermanagh, Antrim, Longford, Offaly, Westmeath, Wexford, Kildare

In all qualifier rounds A teams play A teams and B teams play B teams. Usually the A teams play their provincial games before the B teams which allows the A qualifier games to be scheduled a week before the B qualifier games.

Round 1   
The first round consists of all teams that fail to reach their provincial semi-finals with the exception of New York. 16 teams in total take part.

In round 1 four A teams play four A teams and four B teams play four B teams. The eight round 1 winners play the eight beaten provincial semi-finalists in round 2 of the qualifiers.

The following teams take part in this round:qualified so far are:

Connacht (2) leitrim,london

Leinster (7)Wicklow,

Munster (2) limerick,waterford

Ulster (5) Antrim, Armagh, derry
Games to be played 1a sat 18th june,1b day 25th June.


Round 2
In the second round of the qualifiers the eight winning teams from Round 1A and Round 1B play the eight beaten provincial semi-finalists. The round 2 draw is unrestricted − if two teams have played each other in a provincial match they can be drawn to meet again. The eight winners of these matches play each other in Round 3.

Round 1A Winners (4)


Provincial Semi-Finalists (A)


Round 1B Winners (4)
Provincial Semi-Finalists (B)

Round 3
In the third round of the qualifiers winning teams from round 2A play against winning teams from round 2A and winning teams from round 2B play against winning teams from round 2B. Round 3 rules do not allow two teams that have played each other in a provincial match to meet again. The four winners of these matches play the four beaten provincial finalists in Round 4.

Round 2A Winners (4)


Round 2B Winners (4)


Round 4   
In the fourth round of the qualifiers, the four winning teams of Round 3A and Round 3B play the four provincial beaten finalists.[8] Round 4 rules do not allow two teams that have played each other in a provincial match to meet again if such a pairing can be avoided. The four winners of these matches play the provincial winners in the All-Ireland Quarter-Finals.

Round 3A Winners




Provincial Runners Up (A)




Round 3B Winners




Provincial Runner  up b
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Rossfan

Round 1 draws Tuesday morning on RTÉ radio sports bulletin at 8.35.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Syferus

Quote from: westbound on June 01, 2016, 09:09:14 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2016, 05:03:14 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 31, 2016, 04:37:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2016, 04:09:11 PM
Anyone know who's A and B of the teams already in?
Antrim, Armagh, Derry, Leitrim, London,Limerick, Waterford, Longford, Wickla, Carlow, Wexford, Meath/Louth, Offaly/Westmeath, Dublin/Laois, Monaghan/Downand Donegal/Fermanagh.

See the first post of this thread
Ta.
A section the tough one.

Possibly.
It's definitely not as lopsided as last year was anyway - although we ended up on the 'easy' side and got beaten in enniskillen!

We're on a very soft side of the draw this year again. Dublin and Kerry will not be featuring at all and Tyrone may win Ulster too. We could lose to any county in Ireland knowing us, though.

Rossfan

Jases Syfín has someone hacked your account?
We'd hardly lose to Carlow, Waterford or Wickla at least
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Syferus

#23
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2016, 11:02:59 PM
Jases Syfín has someone hacked your account?
We'd hardly lose to Carlow, Waterford or Wickla at least

Poor old Wicklow aren't much worse than Sligo and look at the fretting we're doing over the all blacks. Waterford gave Galway a right scare a couple years ago too. No right to overlook anyone.

Rossfan

We have to earn that right in Summertime.....
I suppose the probable outcome is we'll enter at Round 4A.
Most likely opposition Cavan, Armagh or Derry. Likely in Croker especially if Cork lose MF as it would be embarrassing crowd wise to have them stand alone.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Il Bomber Destro

The part that always confuses me is the the round 4 draw where you have the teams that come through the A side of the draw playing the provincial runners up from the A side of the draw and vice versa with B.

Are the provinces split up into A and B from the outset and if so what do they comprise of this year?

For instance last year, Galway and Tyrone came through the B side of the qualifiers and hosted the runners up of Connacht and Ulster.

Likewise Fermanagh and Kildare came through the A side of the draw and hosted the runners up of Leinster and Munster.

The quarter finals then followed that on with the Ulster and Connacht Champs playing the winners of 3B before it crossed over in the semis with it being Ulster/Munster and Connacht/Leinster

In the case of Provinces, what is the A/B split this year?

I'm interested in finding this out as I'm wondering were Kerry to lose the Munster final would it benefit them by removing them from Dublin's side of the draw? Kerry are beaten before they even take to the field against Dublin this year, the gap seems to be getting wider every time in terms of Dublin's dominance, they've comfortably beaten Kerry in their last two outings with a few gears to spare.

cornetto

A and B groups are written above when it comes to knock out the following happens.
The munster and connacht final losers go into side A. Leinster and Ulster final losers go into side B

In the quarter finals, the munster and connacht winners play a qualifer from side A. Leinster and Ulster winners play a qualifer from side B.

Semi-finals, Connacht winners (or team that beats them) V Ulster winners (or team that beats them)
  and Leinster Winners (or team that beats them) V Munster winners (or team that beats them)..

Rossfan

As Louth/Meath are in the A side their Leinster QF should be this weekend to avoid a six day turn round.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

drici

Laois v Armagh

Carlow v Wicklow

Derry v Louth/Meath

Leitrim v Waterford

drici

Down v Longford

Antrim v Limerick

Offaly/Westmeath v Londain

Wexford v Fermanagh/Donegal