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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 14, 2022, 10:44:21 PM »

Most definitely agree with this. Then again they are probably under more pressure than before. Should counties not take control of coaching in these schools? I think St Mary's Magherafelt have a full time GAA coach - not sure who pays for it. It's resulted in a big upturn in their fortunes - albeit they were always competitive.

What extra pressure are they under now that wasnít there in years gone by? I just think the excuses made are a joke. If you are working in a school PE department steeped in GAA tradition - you have to step up. Simple as that. Why would the county take control of this? That would be like Man Utd sending coaches into every school in Manchester to take coaching sessions while the teachers sit on their backsides doing nothing.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 13, 2022, 10:08:16 PM »
We need Down schools competing at A grade Colleges Football and where we canít make A grade then we must aspire not to go below B grade for our bigger schools or more established names. If we look back to 2010, we had gained from having three Down schools play in the Mac Rory in the era of 2005/6 as the Abbey, St Louis and St Colmanís did battle, the hard yards ploughed in those competitions helped Marty Clarke, Kevin McKernan and others take their places as County Footballers. So, I say that post-Christmas in the academic year of 2022, let us deploy our coaches in our second level schools, and not just as coaches but as Development Officers to undertake work to develop Club-School links.

Are you serious. The PE staff in St Marks would take some look at ya if you even suggested going to B grade football let alone A grade. There are over 450 lads to play football in that place. Lads from Clonduff, Mayobridge, CPN, Burren, Rostrevor etc. serious strong clubs with serious history. I have no doubt the players are there - but the drive and ambition of the staff definitely ainít. Nerf wars and GAA training with soccer balls, playing D competitions - itís an absolute disgrace. Barney McAleenan would crack up if he was back now. Barney was a real tough task master who trained the sh**e out of us but we all left the school feeling like we were Down players. Surely the new county proposal should hopefully be targeting this place so we can get this once GAA institute back up the footballing ladder again.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 11, 2022, 10:56:29 PM »
McEvoy was very badly behaved in the dressing room after the Monaghan game I hear. A very arrogant young man to speak to a multiple all Ireland winner the way he did.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 09, 2022, 10:37:13 PM »

Well only one team can win a football match, and if you're competitive in a game of football against a team that goes on to reach the All Ireland final then it's not exactly a negative, no matter how much some people want to make it out to be.

So the minors getting beaten by the eventual champions on three occasions in Jamesí 5 years is ok then. We were also seriously competitive v Armagh in 2011 when we Pete was in charge - 9 points up at half time I believe. So itís actually all good - we r not that bad at underage after all.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 09, 2022, 06:19:43 PM »
They were very competitive this year against Tyrone u20s who are now in AIF. No other down team at any age group including seniors have come near a big gun in a long time.

So now winning doesnít really matter - we were very competitive against a team in the AI final.. There are lots and lots of people who simply wonít be happy u til Laverty gets the senior job. Then they will find a new angle to complain about.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 08, 2022, 10:44:58 PM »
James did reference many times that we didnt have the players after the defeats during his recent reign as minor manager. CL and MC didnt have these problems with the same group of players.

CL and MC Didn play any of the big guns in championship either. I feel if u go back a few pages u will see this conversation has happened.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 08, 2022, 09:17:24 PM »
Pete McGrath
Shane Mulholland
Wee James
Patrick Cunningham

Thatís who you are saying were disasters. Who else out there wouldíve done better? And if Patrick and his team step down - who is next?? Did you ever just think maybe we donít have the players? Iíd say if you went through the whole county senior squad of the last 4/5 years - every player has been a part of the Mourne Academy.  Thatís hardly a shamblesÖ

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 08, 2022, 05:45:29 PM »
Waiting in the long grass? Claiming the credit?Who has done that?
Weíve been a disaster at Minor level for years.No credit to be claimed anywhere.

Are you telling me that Frank Dawson didnít do that with Clonduff after watching them winning 3 minor Championships in a row. Then with Burren who won 5 U21 championships and 2 Ulster Championships in a row.
Then u have the man of the moment Jim McCorry - took Mayobridge after watching them win underage titles galore, did the same with a Kilcoo group and now doing the same with Burren.
Define a disaster at minor level? No winning games - who Cares?? Kerry won 5 All Irelands in a row but still havenít got their senior crown (prob will this year) so underage success means f**k all in the grand scheme of things.
We have got a plethora of good players through to the senior panel in the last 2/3 years. We are a division 3 outfit at best and the B championship is where we deserve to be. Itís time our players stayed out of the paper and knuckled down to a bit of hard work to get us out of this situation.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 08, 2022, 11:26:59 AM »
He is a Burren man now who has never managed a team prior to this.A Yes man to the CB.Why was he appointed?

He has managed a number of teams within burren in led to believe and coached a number of others. Surely itís only right that if you take a county development squad at u15 and u16 level u move onto u17s with them? Itís hardly fair on people taking development squads and then handing them over to some ďbig nameĒ to get all the credit. The amount of people we have in this county who sit in the long grass watching teams being built for them and then step in and claim all the credit is crazy - I think the county board did the right thing here promoting that group of men. How else do they make it appealing for people to get involved with development squads??

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 07, 2022, 11:16:54 PM »
Agree with u that he is out of his depth but he certainly not part of the Burren mafia.  Most people were happy for him to move on.

Questions have to be asked as to what qualified him to get the job.

Him a Ballymartin man???
What qualified him?? He took this team at development squad level for the last few years, he most probably has more coaching qualifications than most on this board and thirdly and probably most importantly - he is free. Thatís always a unique selling point to our county board!! Apart from our u20 setup who get ďwell looked afterĒ with coin. Obviously AOíR too.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 07, 2022, 11:03:23 AM »
Kilcoo were simply going through the gears last night v CPN. They are embedding some of their youth players nicely into a well oiled machine. With more senior players getting a good rest or brought back at a slower pace - they will not relinquish any of their titles easily. Very impressive..

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 04, 2022, 08:53:18 PM »
Wow. What a poor interview. He makes it sound like Kilcoo have the most professional set up around. He forgets to mention about his cousins getting the road from the panel when Moran took over for their poor attitude only to get ďa visit ď from a few lads to warn him to take them back. He thinks people around the county donít know that they too have lads who dont turn up to training, donít arrive on time, sit on the physio slab when the training steps up a notch - everyone on the outside thinks everything is going great with them - that ainít so..
But itís like Rico Kelly tweeted earlier - pipe down young man - you make it sound like u have won multiple All Irelands and 10+ UlstersÖ
Would Eugene last at county football - absolutely not.. he hit Ardan McAvoy last Wednesday night when the ball was thrown in and not realising he had just hit a former boxer - McAvoy hit him 3 quick fire sweet slaps  - Eugene all of a sudden didnít want contact and hid around midfield.. Then disappeared at half time..  how wud that last in an intercounty game ffs!!!

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 02, 2022, 09:45:41 PM »
Well letís start with the Kilcoo players - reigning All Ireland Champions and double Ulster winnersÖ..I would say 4 should be there that arenít for some reasonÖ.

4,6,8 - I even read a quote yesterday that Kilcoo could have beaten Down on Saturday.. such complete and utter tripe.. if they donít want to play - MOVE ON. Another poster hit the nail on the head - Murdock and magill playing rightly - letís focus on the likes of them - Ruairi OíHare, Gilmore etc - lads who want to represent the county and give their all when they are there. Forget about those who donít want to be there - letís focus on those who do.

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 01, 2022, 11:04:23 PM »

  There are similar thoughts about James also.Communication terrible and going on the two alcohol episodes there appears to no respect to the Management.Respect is usually earned but is non existent from both sides.

If our players donít have any respect for two former All Ireland winners and All Stars - then I think we know where the problem lies..

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: April 30, 2022, 10:41:06 PM »
Poor today - basic skills were poor - conditions were not good for either team but picking the ball up, basic catches etc were a mile off.
I didnít  like when a player was taken off he shakes his head and then doesnít shake the managers hand walking past. He was booked and had just committed a foul with a late tackle and dropped on the player - of course he had to be subbed before he was sent off. Then the young Ballyholland man gets two quick yellows. Frustrating..

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