The Many Faces of US Politics...

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muppet

Quote from: stew on November 26, 2016, 05:00:36 AM
I am an avid fan of the cosmos, I love the universe and the magnificence of the place, in our part of the universe I am absolutely disgusted at Trump and his blithe denial that global warming exists, global warming is a huge concern yet the country that produces the most destructive element that hurts the planet, well, they don't give a f**k!

I love that Trump wants to go back to the moon, I hate that he wants to do it by taking environmental money and give it to NASA.

Trump is wrong on this and has to be stopped, it is going to take republicans to raol against his plans as well as every Democrat left standing, the environment is suffering and it is up to the leaders to put plans in place to save said environment!

Don't blame Trump. He touted this policy all along.

Blame the people that voted for it.
MWWSI 2017

seafoid

Quote from: J70 on November 25, 2016, 10:57:58 PM
Show where she spews her hatred for whites?

As usual, you refuse to acknowledge the real racism that black people endure and have endured. We're talking about the first woman, and a black woman at that, to run a presidential campaign, and this back in the 90s, out of the Deep South. Are you seriously telling us that racial and gender prejudice did not have to be overcome in politics, like everywhere else?

Context matters. A black woman breaking into what has been a white, male field for centuries and talking about overcoming prejudice is a hell of a lot different to trying to harness white people bitter at immigrants and minorities for doing nothing except trying to integrate and build lives in the US.

So either show us some real evidence of racism on her part or stand looking like the person you usually do when you never miss a chance to try to (invariably invalidly) accuse black people of being ungrateful, over sensitive racists.

http://swelleganza.tumblr.com/post/95099390375/hilton-als-gwtw

"it's the experience of being watched and seeing the harm in people's eyes that is the prelude to becoming a dead n#gger. And according to these pictures I shouldn't be talking to you right now . I'm a little on the  n#gger side , meant to be seen and not heard, my tongue hanged and with it my mind"
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

 From dark enlightenment to post-truth: the alt-right's figures and terms, explained.
   
   
  Ofri Ilany    Nov 25, 2016 1:36 AM
 
                                                Alt-right (the alternative right): A term that defines individuals with extreme right-wing ideologies and ideas that have been disseminated in recent years on the internet, mainly in the United States, and which deviate from the ideology of the traditional conservative right. Until recently, the trend received only marginal media attention, but in recent months its proponents have received increasing exposure. They are for the most part white males who propagate ideas of male supremacy and white supremacy, which are considered taboo in the mainstream media. Alt-right activists often use code words to express racist sentiments: for example, "Skypes" is used when referring to Jews, and "Googles" is the preferred euphemism for black people.
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                Most alt-right activists write under assumed names, mainly on forums such as 4chan and websites such as dailystormer.com. However, the ideas they espouse are also found on the breitbart.com website, which has been described by its chief executive, Steve Bannon, as "the platform for the alt-right." During the presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton linked Donald Trump to the movement. Recently, there have been complaints that the concept of alt-right is in itself misleading, and conceals a simple racist-fascist ideology.
                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                    Alpha male: A popular compliment in alt-right circles for dominant and patriarchal men like Trump; opposite of a beta male, who is effeminate, weak and emasculated. 
                                                                                         
                                                                               
                                                                                                    Bannon, Steve: Trump's intended presidential chief strategist, chief executive of Breitbart (although he went on a leave of absence when he took over management of the GOP candidate's campaign) and sponsor of the alt-right. Some people describe his strategy as Leninist – fostering a revolution led by an avant-garde of highly idealistic professional revolutionaries, who will accelerate far-reaching social processes when power is in their hands (and now it is).

                                                                                                    Beck, Glenn: A conservative, Christian radio broadcaster affiliated with America's Tea Party movement. Beck is opposed to the alt-right, which he describes as European and anti-American, and to Trump, whom he has compared to Adolf Hitler. Also warns against Alexander Dugin on the New Right. In February, he promised that if Trump came to power, he would move to Israel. Considered by members of the alt-right to be "cuckservative" (see below).
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Breitbart.com: An ultranationalist right-wing news website, formerly edited by Steve Bannon, which combines misogyny, opposition to trade agreements, hostility to immigration and to foreigners, and opposition to abortion and gun restrictions. It endorsed Trump's candidacy, and also supports Brexit, Israel (see below), Marine Le Pen, Geert Wilders and the far-right movements of them and other European leaders. Ideologically close to the alt-right, in a more moderate form.
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Cuck, cuckservative: A racist-sexist expression of contempt for old-school conservatives who oppose Trump and the ideology of the alt-right. Such conservatives are portrayed as castrated beta males.
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Dark Enlightenment: An ideological movement that serves as an intellectual vehicle for many alt-right writers. Milo Yiannopoulos (see below) claims that "there are many things that separate the alternative right from old-school racist skinheads, but one thing stands out above all else: intelligence. Skinheads, by and large, are low-information, low-IQ thugs driven by the thrill of violence and tribal hatred. The alternative right are a much smarter group of people – which perhaps suggests why the Left hates them so much. They're dangerously bright."
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    The pioneers of Dark Enlightenment are nihilist philosophers such as Englishman Nick Land, libertarians and technological utopians. It is a kind of religion of misogynist geeks who toy with anti-humanist and anti-democratic ideas, whose principal argument is that liberty and democracy cannot coexist, and therefore democracy should be sacrificed. They reject what they call "The Cathedral," their term for the contemporary gospel of liberalism and political correctness.
                                                                                                                                                                                                         








      


         Alexander Dugin.Francesca Ebel, AP         
   
   



                                                                       
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Dugin, Alexander: A Russian intellectual with close ties to the Kremlin. Promotes imperialist Eurasianism, which aims to destroy the decadent West by means of an anti-democratic, Asian cultural-political model, centered in Russia. He has been influenced by ideas of the "conservative revolution" and by the philosophy of Oswald Spengler, which was popular in Germany in the first half of the 20th century. Opposes the ideas of progress and liberalism in favor of ancient tradition originating in the East, and considers the idea of a democratic Russia as pseudomorphosis (see below). Although he has advocated a confrontation with the democratic Order of Atlantic, centered in the United States, he is often quoted on alt-right websites and encourages Trump-style American isolationism.
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Gamergate: A protest movement of misogynist gamers (that is, video-game players), which erupted in August 2014. It flourished on the forum site 8chan, and on Breitbart. The protest was directed against feminists who criticized male dominance in the gaming world. Was seen as a formative event of the new geek right, exemplifying a mix of geeky machoism and chauvinist violence.
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Hipster right: Breitbart's term for the young European identity movement, exemplified by educated and with-it young people who oppose German Chancellor Angela Merkel's immigration policy and protest against the "self-hatred" of multiculturalism. Influenced by ideas of Frenchman Alain De Benouit's New Right.
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Human biodiversity: A racist expression commonly used in alt-right forums to describe the  phenomenon of significant genetic differences among the various human "tribes." It assumes that the "white tribe" can and must maintain itself and its lands, and prevent intermingling with other tribes such as black or Jews. This is the basis for hostility toward multiculturalism and immigration, which its purveyors perceive as "white genocide."
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Israel: A country in the Middle East that is described as "Judeo-democratic." Many members of the alt-right support Israel because it is a frontline position in the war against Islam.
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Neoreaction, NRx: An ideological movement that more or less overlaps Dark Enlightenment. To be distinguished from the old neoconservativism that flourished in the days of Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, which the alt-right dubs "cuckservative."
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    New Balance: A popular brand of sports shoes that was recently declared by the alt-right as the "official shoe of white people" This happened after the company's spokesman expressed enthusiasm about Trump's election, due to the opposition of the president-elect to the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement.
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Pepe the Frog: A cartoon character that has become a popular meme, and in the past year has been identified with white ultranationalism and with Donald Trump. The Anti-Defamation League officially designated it a "hate symbol"; Clinton's campaign also attacked the frog, provoking derision from Trump supporters. Pepe illustrates the clownish nature of the new far right. As Israeli intellectual and Trump supporter Elad Pressman, editor of the website conspil.com, explained, "If the discourse of Hillary's campaign is as strict as the Church regarding purity of language and preaching Christian morality, Trump's campaign is seen as more emotional, dynamic and amorphous, and in effect is lighter, laughs more and is not as heavy."
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Pseudomorphosis: A term coined by German philosopher Oswald Spengler, author of "The Decline of the West," published in 1918. It signifies a cultural disease that causes a young and vital culture to adopt the thinking modes of a foreign and dying one, thereby leading to pretense and hypocrisy. Popular with Dugin and neoreactionary philosophers, who claim that millennials have to free themselves from the liberal culture of the declining Baby Boomer generation.
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Post-truth: A characteristic of the political culture of the Trump era, in which facts are of no importance in the shaping of public opinion. Several alt-right spokesmen, including Yiannopoulos, advocate such politics. The term was chosen by the Oxford Dictionaries as the word of the year for 2016.
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Putin, Vladimir: President of Russia. Very popular among spokesmen of the extreme right in the West, as "the great godfather of extreme nationalism" in our time. Those who believe in white supremacy claim that the United States must hold off from waging the cold war against Russia that began during the term of President Barack Obama, and to ally itself with the "great white power" headed by Putin.
                                                                                         
               
                                                            skip - Excerpts from Richard Spencer's speech, as published by The Atlantic.
                                                         
 
           
     
               
     
           
          Excerpts from Richard Spencer's speech, as published by The Atlantic.
                        The Atlantic, YouTube
                 
     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                    Spencer, Richard: One of the prominent spokespeople of the alt-right, editor of the alternative-right.blogspot.com website. Promotes identity politics, white supremacy, and anti-bourgeois and anti-liberal "heroism." He claims he is not interested in restoring slavery, but rather in establishing an "ethnic state" for whites only. He claims that women are attracted to alt-right men out of an evolutionary admiration for the genes of alpha males. Does not oppose the activity of Jews, or gays, on the periphery of the movement – as long as they identify with "white European culture." However, he stresses that "Jews aren't white." He and his wife, who uses the pen-name Nina Byzantina, distribute English translations of the works of Alexander Dugin. With Trump's victory, he sees the alt-right as the leaders of public opinion in the new America. At a convention of the movement this week he gave the Nazi salute and shouted "Hail Trump! Hail victory!"
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Strauss, Botho: A German writer and playwright. Began his career as an avant-garde playwright in Berlin, but since the 1990s has expressed conservative opinions considered taboo among the German public. One of the popular figures in the "identity right." A year ago, he claimed that the wave of immigration signifies "the end of the history of the German spirit," and declared that he prefers to see German society die out than for it to become intermingled with foreign peoples. However, he says that if the Germans become a minority they will rediscover their authentic identity.
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Swift, Taylor: An American singer who was involuntarily named the poster girl of the alt-right, mainly thanks to her "Aryan appearance" (blond hair and blue eyes). Appears in innumerable, half-joking memes, accompanied by anti-Semitic and Nazi statements.
                                                                                         
               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                    Trolls: A common term for users of social networks, discussion groups and websites who deliberately provoke anger and arouse antagonism. Many members of the alt-right act as trolls – that is, their strategy is not to commit to being serious, and to present every provocative claim as though it was designed to arouse debate and embody freedom of expression.
                                                                                                                                                                                                         








      


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                                                                                                    Yiannopoulos, Milo: A British journalist and editor at Breitbart, one of the more eccentric spokesmen of the alt-right, identified with the right-wing gay movement Twinks 4 Trump. Describes himself as a violent homosexual and as a fundamentalist of freedom of expression; expresses anti-feminist and anti-Islamist views. Voices provocative ideas in lectures and speeches with deeply macabre and disturbing undertones. For example, he has hinted at a sexual attraction for Trump, whom he calls Daddy. Although he claims to be of partly Jewish descent, he also says that anti-Semitic caricatures are legitimate if used jokingly by free-spirited young people, which is meant to shock the adults, similar to "long hair and rock 'n' roll" in previous eras.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

J70

That shit is sickening.

Intelligent my arse.

J70

#6635
Quote from: stew on November 26, 2016, 05:00:36 AM
I am an avid fan of the cosmos, I love the universe and the magnificence of the place, in our part of the universe I am absolutely disgusted at Trump and his blithe denial that global warming exists, global warming is a huge concern yet the country that produces the most destructive element that hurts the planet, well, they don't give a f**k!

I love that Trump wants to go back to the moon, I hate that he wants to do it by taking environmental money and give it to NASA.

Trump is wrong on this and has to be stopped, it is going to take republicans to raol against his plans as well as every Democrat left standing, the environment is suffering and it is up to the leaders to put plans in place to save said environment!

The Republicans are dying to strip government agencies of any funds to research climate change. It will become a forbidden subject, just as it did under Bush (can't discuss melting Arctic ice when discussing polar bear ecology) and states like Florida under Rick Scott (the irony, given what's happening in Miami!). Can't have any acknowledgement that the data and the risks are real when there's money to be made in their pet industries. This is despite their ever shifting line of the deniers as to the reality. We've moved over the years from "it's not happening" to "humans aren't causing it" to "it was happening but it slowed down for a decade on land" to "it's happening all right and humans probably are causing it but there's not much we can do so let's just live with it".

seafoid

 Climate change denial on the scale of Ebell when Arctic ice is 20 degrees higher than normal is into assassination territory.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

Twinks for Trump pushed the right-wing line very forcefully but our Twink had nothing to do with it. She does not consider the president elect as Daddy either.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

stew

In related the Ice maiden Clinton has decided to hide behind the skirts of the leader of the green party and has endorsed a recount in wisconsin were she lost to Trump by over 27,000 votes, this rancid bitch does not care that if she is successful in winning these three states through whatever means there will be civil strife o the streets not seen since the civil war.

She conceded on election night, the white house said it was the will of the people and in fairness they are still saying all the right things but one thing strikes me, this place is just like CNN, big news like this recount gets scant play, I do wonder however, do the union lads and Democrats on here agree with Clintons decision?

The democrat party disgusts me more and more every passing year, Trump will be President no matter what happens and I hope to God he puts manners on this nest of vipers when he has the power to do so!

I would say Clinton is looking at more face time answering questions about her emails and the shithouse that is the Clinton foundation, the Donald will bend her over after this cowardly and disgusting situation!













Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

heganboy

Quote from: stew on November 27, 2016, 05:40:16 PM
In related the Ice maiden Clinton has decided to hide behind the skirts of the leader of the green party and has endorsed a recount in wisconsin were she lost to Trump by over 27,000 votes, this rancid bitch does not care that if she is successful in winning these three states through whatever means there will be civil strife o the streets not seen since the civil war.

She conceded on election night, the white house said it was the will of the people and in fairness they are still saying all the right things but one thing strikes me, this place is just like CNN, big news like this recount gets scant play, I do wonder however, do the union lads and Democrats on here agree with Clintons decision?

The democrat party disgusts me more and more every passing year, Trump will be President no matter what happens and I hope to God he puts manners on this nest of vipers when he has the power to do so!

I would say Clinton is looking at more face time answering questions about her emails and the shithouse that is the Clinton foundation, the Donald will bend her over after this cowardly and disgusting situation!


There is no single sentence in that rant that isn't vitriolic and baiting.

You're saying Trump won and f**k you all.

We get it.

Do I (personally and not representative of anyone other than myself) think it is a good plan. Yes. Do i thing anything will change? No.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

seafoid

There is only 10K in it in Michigan , apparently.
They had to confirm the win on the 9th because otherwise it would have been chaos
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

stew

Quote from: heganboy on November 27, 2016, 05:48:46 PM
Quote from: stew on November 27, 2016, 05:40:16 PM
In related the Ice maiden Clinton has decided to hide behind the skirts of the leader of the green party and has endorsed a recount in wisconsin were she lost to Trump by over 27,000 votes, this rancid bitch does not care that if she is successful in winning these three states through whatever means there will be civil strife o the streets not seen since the civil war.

She conceded on election night, the white house said it was the will of the people and in fairness they are still saying all the right things but one thing strikes me, this place is just like CNN, big news like this recount gets scant play, I do wonder however, do the union lads and Democrats on here agree with Clintons decision?

The democrat party disgusts me more and more every passing year, Trump will be President no matter what happens and I hope to God he puts manners on this nest of vipers when he has the power to do so!

I would say Clinton is looking at more face time answering questions about her emails and the shithouse that is the Clinton foundation, the Donald will bend her over after this cowardly and disgusting situation!


There is no single sentence in that rant that isn't vitriolic and baiting.

You're saying Trump won and f**k you all.

We get it.

Do I (personally and not representative of anyone other than myself) think it is a good plan. Yes. Do i thing anything will change? No.

I agree with you to a certain extent, it is full of vitriol, baiting? not meant to be, I was just speaking aloud, nothing will change, I agree there also however the fact she is desperate enough to try and change things after conceding etc makes me despise the vermin even more!

I am not saying Trump won and f**k you all, I would feel te same if the shoe was on the other foot, it is too late in the day to be pulling this shit but hey, that is the way the dems roll, I lived it when Walker got elected Governor of Wisconsin, I saw their act.

If the republicans are wrong I call it what it is, what sickens me is that so many democrats can justify anything, they bend rukles, break rules but hey, if the law suits us not, ignore the law.

A real litmus test will be the knackers in charge of sanctuary cities, if they break the law and are true to their word they will do hard time, they, to me are as fickle as wully on a hunger strike, they stand for nothing and they will fold like tents, Trump will be relentless in hunting them down and I hope he does!

Sorry Hegan, I loathe with all my heart the party you support, I have no gra for illegal aliens and it is my fervent wish Trump takes this personally and goes after Clinton, she really, really needs to have a long sit behind cold steel!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

J70

Quote from: stew on November 27, 2016, 05:40:16 PM
In related the Ice maiden Clinton has decided to hide behind the skirts of the leader of the green party and has endorsed a recount in wisconsin were she lost to Trump by over 27,000 votes, this rancid bitch does not care that if she is successful in winning these three states through whatever means there will be civil strife o the streets not seen since the civil war.

She conceded on election night, the white house said it was the will of the people and in fairness they are still saying all the right things but one thing strikes me, this place is just like CNN, big news like this recount gets scant play, I do wonder however, do the union lads and Democrats on here agree with Clintons decision?

The democrat party disgusts me more and more every passing year, Trump will be President no matter what happens and I hope to God he puts manners on this nest of vipers when he has the power to do so!

I would say Clinton is looking at more face time answering questions about her emails and the shithouse that is the Clinton foundation, the Donald will bend her over after this cowardly and disgusting situation!

If there is a recount going to take place, independent of whether she gets behind it or not, she'd be an idiot not to have representation.

Do you think Trump will not be represented? Get a fuckin' grip of yourself!

Un-f**king-believable! :o

J70

And another thing - f**k Trump and his whining about this recount. It couldn't happen to a nicer guy!

He's the man who spent weeks hyping up non-existent evidence of voter fraud and, in a national debate, refused to say that he would accept the results of the election.

If HE had won the popular vote by 2 million plus and lost the electoral college, there'd be all kinds of law suits and bitching and obstruction going on.

stew

Quote from: J70 on November 27, 2016, 06:46:00 PM
Quote from: stew on November 27, 2016, 05:40:16 PM
In related the Ice maiden Clinton has decided to hide behind the skirts of the leader of the green party and has endorsed a recount in wisconsin were she lost to Trump by over 27,000 votes, this rancid bitch does not care that if she is successful in winning these three states through whatever means there will be civil strife o the streets not seen since the civil war.

She conceded on election night, the white house said it was the will of the people and in fairness they are still saying all the right things but one thing strikes me, this place is just like CNN, big news like this recount gets scant play, I do wonder however, do the union lads and Democrats on here agree with Clintons decision?

The democrat party disgusts me more and more every passing year, Trump will be President no matter what happens and I hope to God he puts manners on this nest of vipers when he has the power to do so!

I would say Clinton is looking at more face time answering questions about her emails and the shithouse that is the Clinton foundation, the Donald will bend her over after this cowardly and disgusting situation!

If there is a recount going to take place, independent of whether she gets behind it or not, she'd be an idiot not to have representation.

Do you think Trump will not be represented? Get a fuckin' grip of yourself!

Un-f**king-believable! :o

Quit your liberal bullshit and act like a man ffs!

If she accepts the result of the general election why not come out and say so? Oh wait, she did?

This is not about representation, this is about clinging to hope and hoping for a miracle at the expense of civil unrest.

If I am wrong why does she not come out and say so?

The tr**p has had elections fixed in this calendar year, why would this one be any different?

Did I mention I hate non accountable liberal fuckkwits? I really, really, really do!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.