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aontroim abu

Went to Omagh yesterday, interesting game. Omagh missed 1-4 in the first half, Cross half as much. of the first 6 Omagh kickouts Cross won 5 of them, mainly due to additional palyers impeding and holding McMahon and Grugan in the middle. Cross were involved in far too much off the ball stuff, wanted to get in their opponents faces far too much. if they had concentrated on the ball they would have played Omagh off the pitch.
Met the ref in quinns after the game, his umpire said Kernan punched his marker in the gut and decerved to go. As far as the Clarke fould goes, i asked him, his words - he held the player and fell, free out.

orangeman

Quote from: aontroim abu on November 03, 2014, 10:41:07 AM
Went to Omagh yesterday, interesting game. Omagh missed 1-4 in the first half, Cross half as much. of the first 6 Omagh kickouts Cross won 5 of them, mainly due to additional palyers impeding and holding McMahon and Grugan in the middle. Cross were involved in far too much off the ball stuff, wanted to get in their opponents faces far too much. if they had concentrated on the ball they would have played Omagh off the pitch.
Met the ref in quinns after the game, his umpire said Kernan punched his marker in the gut and decerved to go. As far as the Clarke fould goes, i asked him, his words - he held the player and fell, free out.

Can't beat that for service. From the horse's mouth.

I didn't see what Kernan did but I've watched the Clarke incident back again a few times and I can't see Clarke pulling the player down. Did he say what he then booked him for ?.

aontroim abu

Quote from: orangeman on November 03, 2014, 10:44:54 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on November 03, 2014, 10:41:07 AM
Went to Omagh yesterday, interesting game. Omagh missed 1-4 in the first half, Cross half as much. of the first 6 Omagh kickouts Cross won 5 of them, mainly due to additional palyers impeding and holding McMahon and Grugan in the middle. Cross were involved in far too much off the ball stuff, wanted to get in their opponents faces far too much. if they had concentrated on the ball they would have played Omagh off the pitch.
Met the ref in quinns after the game, his umpire said Kernan punched his marker in the gut and decerved to go. As far as the Clarke fould goes, i asked him, his words - he held the player and fell, free out.

Can't beat that for service. From the horse's mouth.

I didn't see what Kernan did but I've watched the Clarke incident back again a few times and I can't see Clarke pulling the player down. Did he say what he then booked him for ?.

I didnt see the Kernan incident either, nor did the ref as it happened behind his back, but the umpire caught the full incident. TBH Kernan was rally at it the whole match which was a pity as he was outstanding. I didnt ask what he booked him for.

Applesisapples

Quote from: orangeman on November 03, 2014, 10:44:54 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on November 03, 2014, 10:41:07 AM
Went to Omagh yesterday, interesting game. Omagh missed 1-4 in the first half, Cross half as much. of the first 6 Omagh kickouts Cross won 5 of them, mainly due to additional palyers impeding and holding McMahon and Grugan in the middle. Cross were involved in far too much off the ball stuff, wanted to get in their opponents faces far too much. if they had concentrated on the ball they would have played Omagh off the pitch.
Met the ref in quinns after the game, his umpire said Kernan punched his marker in the gut and decerved to go. As far as the Clarke fould goes, i asked him, his words - he held the player and fell, free out.

Can't beat that for service. From the horse's mouth.

I didn't see what Kernan did but I've watched the Clarke incident back again a few times and I can't see Clarke pulling the player down. Did he say what he then booked him for ?.
There were numerous times during the year where I wanted refs to give a free against forwards for holding, but low and behold 100 times out of 100 the forward got the free. But this ref decided buck the trend, unfortunately he got it spectacularly wrong, seen it over and over Clarke was fouled and this incident changed the match. The ref was inconsistent throughout. It was noticeable on TV as well that there was a fair bit of baiting going on from both sides. Again I ask where were these eagle eyed umpires when Clarke was being strangled. Poor officiating.

Schkite

Great stuff by our lads against Galls yesterday. Some heart in that team, never give up until the final whistle.

Ulster wide open now, every team left will fancy their chances.

Orior

There are some boys on the Cross team that think they are county standard when clearly they are not. Yesterday's result should help that dawning.
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

StephenC

Only saw the first bit of the game but was struck by the amount of times that McMahon was fouled coming out with the ball. Think it led to at least one score? Can't comment on the last incident but maybe swings and roundabouts?

Applesisapples

Quote from: Orior on November 03, 2014, 01:19:50 PM
There are some boys on the Cross team that think they are county standard when clearly they are not. Yesterday's result should help that dawning.
I would agree there in part. David McKenna looked slow and ponderous when he came on. It would appear though that the Armagh SFC does Cross no favours.

SuperHo

i was at the game and watched it on sky+ when i got home (sad) .  It was like watching 2 different games cos the tv did not cover a fraction of the pulling dragging pure nonsense that went on.  young meyler in particular came in for a lot of stick.  ref was abysmally inconsistent throughout.  Have seen cross in the flesh on many occasions and that looked nothin like cross as we know them.

it kills me to say it but the achievement of that omagh team is unreal.  fair play to them.  if ye cant beat em dont cry about it try harder!!

Bensars

Quote from: Applesisapples on November 03, 2014, 02:02:32 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 03, 2014, 01:19:50 PM
There are some boys on the Cross team that think they are county standard when clearly they are not. Yesterday's result should help that dawning.
I would agree there in part. David McKenna looked slow and ponderous when he came on. It would appear though that the Armagh SFC does Cross no favours.

Dont buy that at all. It has no consequence if Cross were winning All Irelands, Ulsters or even getting to Ulster finals. It could in fact be argued it was an advantage as they were arriving on the Ulster scene fresh with time to prepare. This in contrast to some teams from other counties who do not have the time to recover or prepare.   You cant have it both ways.

This is no way a dig at Crossmaglen, they are the model  for all other clubs to aspire to, however they can only beat whats in front of them.
The uncompetitiveness of the Armagh championship is being used as a crutch when its convenient


DERRYSFINEST

Quote from: SuperHo on November 03, 2014, 02:04:30 PM
i was at the game and watched it on sky+ when i got home (sad) .  It was like watching 2 different games cos the tv did not cover a fraction of the pulling dragging pure nonsense that went on.  young meyler in particular came in for a lot of stick.  ref was abysmally inconsistent throughout.  Have seen cross in the flesh on many occasions and that looked nothin like cross as we know them.

it kills me to say it but the achievement of that omagh team is unreal.  fair play to them.  if ye cant beat em dont cry about it try harder!!

Funny I was chatting to a mate today who was at the game and also watched it when he got home.  He also said the off the ball antics that Cross were at particularly their defenders in the first half was unreal. I know an umpire got Kernan sent off, but surely with 7 officials all with earpieces etc these things should be stamped out. I felt the ref had a poor game with cross benefiting from some poor decisions in the first half.

If Cross had of kept 15 on the field they would have won the game.  Competition wide open now, I reckon it will be an Omagh / Clontibret final

Applesisapples

Quote from: SuperHo on November 03, 2014, 02:04:30 PM
i was at the game and watched it on sky+ when i got home (sad) .  It was like watching 2 different games cos the tv did not cover a fraction of the pulling dragging pure nonsense that went on.  young meyler in particular came in for a lot of stick.  ref was abysmally inconsistent throughout.  Have seen cross in the flesh on many occasions and that looked nothin like cross as we know them.

it kills me to say it but the achievement of that omagh team is unreal.  fair play to them.  if ye cant beat em dont cry about it try harder!!
In fairness to Cross not one of them that I have seen or heard offered an excuse other than they didn't do enough to win it.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Schkite on November 03, 2014, 01:06:44 PM
Great stuff by our lads against Galls yesterday. Some heart in that team, never give up until the final whistle.

Ulster wide open now, every team left will fancy their chances.

Working in England at minute so never got to game. Did the sending off make the difference or would you'd have won anyways?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Schkite

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2014, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Schkite on November 03, 2014, 01:06:44 PM
Great stuff by our lads against Galls yesterday. Some heart in that team, never give up until the final whistle.

Ulster wide open now, every team left will fancy their chances.

Working in England at minute so never got to game. Did the sending off make the difference or would you'd have won anyways?

Hard to say for definite. By the time of the sending off we'd got back to within a point and yous hadn't scored for about half an hour, so we'd recovered well from the awful start.

Still, you'd imagine a man extra could've made a difference in such a tight game, fine margins and all that. There were a few chances missed near the end which could have swung it either way regardless.

Milltown Row2

Grand, totally inexcusable for us to give up a six point lead and for you's to go so far behind, but to not score for that length of time is ridiculous. Good luck in the next round
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea