Dundalk FC

Started by T Fearon, September 29, 2016, 10:02:41 PM

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Main Street

Dundalk were smart enough to take these opponents seriously and rest the whole first team after their return from Moldova, even if on paper this game looked a dead cert.  Dundalk had to work hard for this win, it could have been a much different proposition had the KI goalie not let in 2 soft goals.

seafoid

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 01, 2020, 09:49:27 PM
Despite the Tiblisi 6-1 win with 30% possession they were poor and Dundalk handled them with ease.
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MayoBuck

Dundalk drawn with arsenal in the group stage draw

Baile Brigín 2

Arsenal, Rapid Vienna, Molde.

Leaving aside the obvious crack that they are well used to Molde in Oriel, thats not a bad draw. Points there.

Main Street

Dundalk will be fortunate to get one or two draws in that group, though good that there's no expensive 10 hour journeys to the depths of east Europe.

The money earned so far will just balance out their accounts over the past 2 seasons, ease the panic of the investors.

illdecide

Guaranteed 3 million Euro for Dundalk which will go a long way in LOI even if they were to lose every game. A win get an additional 600,000 and a draw get an additional 200,000
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J70

Quote from: Main Street on October 02, 2020, 01:17:57 PM
Dundalk will be fortunate to get one or two draws in that group, though good that there's no expensive 10 hour journeys to the depths of east Europe.

The money earned so far will just balance out their accounts over the past 2 seasons, ease the panic of the investors.

Haven't followed too closely.

Have Dundalk overextended themselves?

Baile Brigín 2

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Quote from: J70 on October 02, 2020, 01:40:29 PM
Quote from: Main Street on October 02, 2020, 01:17:57 PM
Dundalk will be fortunate to get one or two draws in that group, though good that there's no expensive 10 hour journeys to the depths of east Europe.

The money earned so far will just balance out their accounts over the past 2 seasons, ease the panic of the investors.

Haven't followed too closely.

Have Dundalk overextended themselves?

No. They are owned by a hedge fund who like a divedend. This means they are a healthy investment again.

They bank European money, pay themselves and use the money to outspend the league. The question is what will they do if they fail to qualify or fall out early 2/3  years on the spin.

Main Street

Quote from: J70 on October 02, 2020, 01:40:29 PM
Quote from: Main Street on October 02, 2020, 01:17:57 PM
Dundalk will be fortunate to get one or two draws in that group, though good that there's no expensive 10 hour journeys to the depths of east Europe.

The money earned so far will just balance out their accounts over the past 2 seasons, ease the panic of the investors.

Haven't followed too closely.

Have Dundalk overextended themselves?
It's public knowledge that they have recorded big losses in their annual accounts.
The submitted club accounts record a
"total loss of €681,467 for the year ending November 30, 2018"
"total loss for the year ending  nov 2019  €1,226,000"

And although the loss has not been accounted for yet in 2020, the owners have paid the full time salaries of the contracted players since the league went into pause in March and I assume many of those player contracts are the highest in the LOI.
It's a fair statement to claim Dundalks losses are considerable, that's the reson why the ultimatum was laid down to new coaching team to qualify for the Europa leage group stage, or else.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Main Street on October 02, 2020, 07:24:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 02, 2020, 01:40:29 PM
Quote from: Main Street on October 02, 2020, 01:17:57 PM
Dundalk will be fortunate to get one or two draws in that group, though good that there's no expensive 10 hour journeys to the depths of east Europe.

The money earned so far will just balance out their accounts over the past 2 seasons, ease the panic of the investors.

Haven't followed too closely.

Have Dundalk overextended themselves?
It's public knowledge that they have recorded big losses in their annual accounts.
The submitted club accounts record a
"total loss of €681,467 for the year ending November 30, 2018"
"total loss for the year ending  nov 2019  €1,226,000"

And although the loss has not been accounted for yet in 2020, the owners have paid the full time salaries of the contracted players since the league went into pause in March and I assume many of those player contracts are the highest in the LOI.
It's a fair statement to claim Dundalks losses are considerable, that's the reson why the ultimatum was laid down to new coaching team to qualify for the Europa leage group stage, or else.

And the four years before that?

They have cash in bank to cover operational losses (as in less than 3 Euro rounds) and the 3m will cover a couple of lean years on that front.

Dougal Maguire

It's a pity their ground doesn't meet the relevant standards to allow them to play home matches in deh town
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CitySlicker11

On which points does it fail to pass? Without fans could they not be hosting these home games at their own ground now?

Ed Ricketts

Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 02, 2020, 10:03:44 PM
On which points does it fail to pass? Without fans could they not be hosting these home games at their own ground now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_stadium_categories

Need to have a Cat 4 ground to host Europa League games. Capacity is only one of a load of criteria. Oriel would fall short in many areas.

They'd need a new build stadium if they ever wanted to host big European ties in the town. But I'm not sure investing in club infrastructure features prominently in the Yanks' business model.
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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 02, 2020, 10:03:44 PM
On which points does it fail to pass? Without fans could they not be hosting these home games at their own ground now?

At this stage they need a Category 3 stadium. So as it has terracing, not enough seats, not enough parking, not enough vip seats, too small a press box, no tv studio, not enough tv gantries, no cctv and a host of other shortcomings.

Tallaght and the RDS are the only category 3 stadia with LR and Windsor category 4.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Ed Ricketts on October 02, 2020, 10:15:28 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 02, 2020, 10:03:44 PM
On which points does it fail to pass? Without fans could they not be hosting these home games at their own ground now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_stadium_categories

Need to have a Cat 4 ground to host Europa League games. Capacity is only one of a load of criteria. Oriel would fall short in many areas.

They'd need a new build stadium if they ever wanted to host big European ties in the town. But I'm not sure investing in club infrastructure features prominently in the Yanks' business model.

Cat 3 or 4, but agree with your thrust