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#1
Quote from: Emmett Greene on March 23, 2024, 07:50:55 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 23, 2024, 06:25:37 AM
Quote from: markl121 on March 22, 2024, 10:47:46 PMIslamic state have claimed it
So America. Jesus.

Eh?

#ProxyWar

#TheTruthIsOutThere

#GetYourTinfoilHatsThreeForAFiver
#2
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
March 09, 2024, 09:57:44 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 07, 2024, 11:30:16 PMWindsor and Ravenhill all seated and covered as that's what the need is now to meet supporter's requirements. Casements supporters have the same requirements

Interesting that you ignored this post made in response to the quoted and several days before you posted the above.


Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on February 25, 2024, 09:44:33 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 25, 2024, 02:22:33 AMGreat idea. Windsor all covered all seated, Ravenhill something similar. Casement as suggested above. Croppy lie down

Something similar to all-covered all-seated... except of course Ravenhill has 3 sides covered seats, 1 side partially-covered terrace and 3 sides uncovered terrace.  ???
#3
In some better news, I gather the proposed design is not all-seater, or at least, not after its converted for GAA use after its initial Euros compatible format.

Whether there is the money to carry out that rejig is another matter.

#4
Quote from: illdecide on March 02, 2024, 10:19:05 AMYou are all getting your knickers in a twist...the cost is pure speculation and people have added £120m to it in 2 weeks,

That's the build cost.

What about maintenance cost?
#5
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 02, 2024, 09:13:41 AMThe wolf tones will fill it once a year  ;D

The "Beyond the grave tour 2034"  ;D
#6
Quote from: Dreadnought on March 01, 2024, 11:54:02 PMBut you know what? When it's built, it ends up paying itself off. And then you own it until the place falls apart in 70 years time. So no matter what it is absolutely worth getting the additional rather than some bog basic terraced stadium

You do realise there is a far larger maintenance cost associated to all the above than some bog basic terraced stadium? Since the stadium is constructed at a similar price to the GAA regardless of whether its all-singing or basic, its the on going maintenance costs I'm concerned with.

For instance, those (unneeded) additional areas do not require upkeep, you don't need to periodically check the wiring, fire alarms etc on rooms that don't exist, nor do you need to clean them. Cleaning of terracing after games requires a fraction of the time. You've no seats to replace on terracing.

In the 2019 financial report - first one I got on google - Croke park had a stadium & admin expense of ~€6.2m. Heat/Light/Power was an additional €1m. Staff costs were ~€2.8m.

That is approx €10m to run the stadium. The latter two would be more direct functions of how many events are on - so will disregard them. If we reasonably assume that the stadium/admin costs are directly related to size, then Casement would be approx 40% Croke's maintenance cost - or €2.6m in 2019 prices.

So Ulster Council will need to raise somewhere in the region of €2.6m (2019 prices) after direct operating costs just to upkeep the stadium.

In 2019, Croke had 28 games and 3 concerts to deliver a gross income of around €29m. (total expenses to do that were €17m. We'll remove the "fixed" €~6.2m I mentioned above from this)

So they made approx €580k per game. We'll not factor by size to be favourable to Casement. It still means Ulster council need to fill or nearly fill Casement 4.5 times a year just to keep the stadium.

Needless to say, they won't be able to do this.



It. Doesn't. Fukking. Add. Up.


(Unless of course, there is an open admission that the Ulster Council are actually building a concert venue that they may occasionally let hold a football or hurling match.)
#7
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 25, 2024, 02:22:33 AMGreat idea. Windsor all covered all seated, Ravenhill something similar. Casement as suggested above. Croppy lie down

Something similar to all-covered all-seated... except of course Ravenhill has 3 sides covered seats, 1 side partially-covered terrace and 3 sides uncovered terrace.  ???
#8
Quote from: Dreadnought on February 23, 2024, 09:45:10 PMAlright then non lunatic. What's your grand plan? Corrigan Park forever?

Already said it many, many times on the thread. But for your benefit.

- Replace the old main stand with a new one, covered seating. All the facilities they could ever want could be placed underneath this as the new structure could be far more significantly hollowed out relative to old, and the back of it could be extended over the road to add further floor space. No big difference to light on houses to the West of Casement as the existing stand already blocks it.
- Stick a roof over the (renewed) terrace on the far side of the pitch. The back end of this structure can hold the badly needed amenities. It'd be relatively low profile though.
- Renew the terraces at both ends of the pitch. Don't cover them. If there is sufficient demand - as determined by polls, one of the ends could be uncovered seats.

Capacity of 30-40k for the one or two times a year it may be needed - which would be during the summer. Comfortably sufficient covered capacity for during the autumn/winter/spring. 3 or 4 significantly different price tiers.

Basically the stadium that the GAA needs at a cost that will benefit all in the long-run.

Instead we're getting an expensive to build, expensive to maintain milestone, which will come with astronomical ticket prices.


But hey - the Ulster Council might be able to hold a few concerts. That's what this is about right? Otherwise it makes no sense to build what they are trying to build.
#9
Quote from: FermPundit on February 23, 2024, 02:32:16 PMThere were 3.5k in Páirc Uí Chaoimh last Saturday for Cork v Cavan and it looked absolutely awful. Would Antrim draw a bigger crowd for a league game in either either code? Corrigan Park is more than adequate. 

Don't bother with sense in this thread.

Its full of lunatics that think the white elephant will somehow attract people in with absolutely no historical evidence to back that up.

The same lunatics think this money will magically fall from the money tree, and won't affect other government funded services elsewhere.

Somehow most of them think the GAA deserve to have their funding doubled or trebled from what it was, despite the farce that took us to where we are being wholly the fault of the Ulster Council and their appointees.
#10
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 13, 2024, 04:51:57 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 12, 2024, 10:31:43 PMso it's not as if there is no GAA drive or ambition in the school.

Maybe things have changed, but there wasn't much application when I was going through.

A bit of enthusiasm, but no direction to it. Even back when there was men that clearly could coach, the actual standard of training was abysmal.
#11
General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
February 10, 2024, 01:05:37 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 09, 2024, 10:19:00 PMBiden is a shambles. Sophie's Choice in the US.

Representative democracy is a shambles.

Look at the state of those being elected across the world. If it were a professional position that required submission of CVs and interviews, how many would pass the first stage of vetting?
#12
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
December 23, 2023, 06:30:21 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 23, 2023, 09:58:18 AMTime to abolish the United Nations Security Council as it can only do what Bidenetanyahu allows it to.

Probably more accurate.
#13
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
December 19, 2023, 07:05:41 AM
Quote from: Sandstorm on December 18, 2023, 09:40:52 PMShort memory Wobbler. It's not long since the debacle of Burrenbridge that cost £500k. Paid a massive non refundable deposit of £450k. Who do you think paid for that and are still paying? THE CLUBS.
Why do you think similar could not happen again?
Waken up and .........

So your agreed it would make sense for the clubs to pay it down now rather than continue to pay interest on the county debt to the banks.  ;)
#14
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
December 13, 2023, 10:47:53 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on December 13, 2023, 07:04:03 PMIn NI the big two, who never agree on anything, have decided to throw the civil service under the bus for doing this without their knowledge. Which is of course horse shit and the real reason is has happened is because the civil servants in question were bullied and likely bribed into taking it on the chin.

This approach allows the blinkered supporters of each party to believe that the behaviour of their leaders is different to that of the crooked Boris Johnson. And they will lap it up.


I don't particularly want to defend either SF or DUP - both are two sides of the same turd in my view - but....

If the civil servants had either a semblance of balls or brains, they'd have backed the stuff up. Its not as if the politicians could touch them.

But they have neither. You'd have to travel a long way to find a more gormless bunch of fuckwits.
#15
Quote from: whitey on November 23, 2023, 09:02:33 PMThat's the worst thing they could do

They're outnumbered 50:1

They need to deescalate before it becomes 500:1


https://x.com/dubslife1/status/1727771293867553262?s=46&t=lH_6NhrWXceXekvYr1XRpg


Nah, send in the Army and fuk them up properly.

Ye could almost see the Rangers salivating from here at the chance of laying fists on some of these scrotes.