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I'm a fan of the general concept, and went to watch it in croker in 06 and 2010 when on, though it was poor enough fair to be honest.

What I don't agree with is the talk about county final getting moved. Maybe other club games, but not championship, certainly not finals. Put it this way, karl lacey has made the papers by tweeting nonsense about the disgrace of murphy having to choose between club and country! what is a disgrace is idea of moving it to accommodate one man. Killybegs have rightly refused, as they have an anniversary dinner that night where past players are flying in from abroad as this date has been set in stone. Why should they agree to a move?

Yea, I think the 5k will do me good this side of xmas anyway, the danger of doing any other long running for too long would leave you very one paced, I remember reading an interesting article 3 years ago with david Matthews who argued that 800 m is the perfect running training for a GAA player. A year later JBM ended up taking him in as the cork hurlers physical coach. This is a more recent interview with him where he explains some of it

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/0808132214-interview-with-david-matthews/

Lot of nonsense flying around lately, and I like a good anti dub or anti tyrone wind up as much as anyone, but i'm hoping to get some the good contributions I've seen before on here from guys who know what their talking about, either as players or coaches.


I'm 30 year old midfielder, hovering between my senior team and reserve team. I want to play football for another 4-5 years no bother, and luckily I've always been injury free. Used to have pace to burn, but a good bit of that is gone, though I wouldn't be carrying any extra weight that I had years ago. My last game of the year was played last week so i'm now looking at doing a serious winter running programme (as well as gym), before going back to the team training in January. This year I've found myself tiring both endurance wise, and feeling slow on the sprint, a big drop over the last year or so.

I'm planning on starting 5k runs over the next while, don't have any plans to go over that, as I certainly don't think a footballer should be running even a half marathon, but that's just my opinion. My aim will be to just get quicker at the 5k. I realise that I would need to complement that with sprinting work to make it more relative to a game scenario, but when should I do this?
Should we be focusing on gym leg strength and long running over the winter and worry about the sharp sprints coming into spring or what is the best way? Taking into account someone playing in the middle of the field as well
thanks

It was a terrible game though, never got going at any stage until Armagh decided to wake up and start playing just before the marsden farce

I would hope that Tyrone will eventually use this centre to move away from the cynical stuff they have used over recent years at both minor and senior level. They have been masters at the DARK ARTS, but with their finance and large gaa playing population they should have the power to regain some level of supremacy in ulster at least and do it by playing football the way it should be played. Not by teaching young lads how to syndicate a dive or teaching them how to execute a rugby style chop down when the other teams forward is bearing down on goal

I's say this guy didn't come cheap for the dubs! Time for Don't Matter to investigate this set up!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/champions-secret-weapon-29618504.html

The often mentioned view that this board is way ahead of anything on hoganstand is laughable. I havn't posted on hoganstand in years but it's good for regular news, and the some of the threads I read are pretty similar to the writing on here

I think there's a lot of snobbery when it comes to speaking the Irish language - a lot of the time when someone who does not have perfect Irish speaks, they get shouted down by the language purists.

We should be encouraging as many people as possible to speak Irish, not complaining that they used the same phrase a few times

Nobody's stopping people speaking Irish. The point here is that Goggins is being paid to speak it, and he's not doing a professional job. It's got nothing to do with snobbery. His Irish is not at a level where he's worth paying.

On the broken Irish thing, if people are to learn Irish it helps if they can hear it spoken correctly or read it written correctly. If all they see is broken Irish, what hope have they of ever figuring the thing out?

Thankfully someone who see's my point of view, he's been speaking as a pundit so I think he's fair game to be shot down, as opposed to me slagging a beginner irish speaker making an effort. I'm not sure but I think he's a teacher, probably a primary teacher though where only a certain amount of irish seems to be needed. As I say, good luck to coggins, i'm sure he's a top guy.

Agree with you also, that a balance does need to be struck in language learning and use, despite often quoted ' Is fearr Gaeilge briste, ná Béarla clíste',  People do need to be corrected at times as what is the point of learning wrong words and structure. But like anything, the more mistakes we make, the more we learn. Not a bad thing, if done in the correct manner

[A number of points, Jarly, I know you read...]

I don't think anyone on here is surprised to see Burns weigh in behind the GAA here.
The biggest ball licker there has ever been.

A number of points, Jarly, I know you read...

Who told you that the residents wanted it sunk 20 metres? And who advised you on the cost of this??
I ask because the residents committee only asked for it to be sunk 7 or 8 metres and DCAL could not provide them with costs of doing so as "costings had not yet been done". Stop making stuff up.

As for your opening about these 3 people working tirelessly for the GAA... 2 of them are well paid for it. It is not grassroots nor volunteerism.


Your tongue is for licking ice cream, Jarly, nothing else.

Much as I think Belfast need's a proper stadium, I understand why the locals would want nothing to do with it and so wouldn't agree with everything burns said.

But this post made me cringe, fairly poor effort

I think there's a lot of snobbery when it comes to speaking the Irish language - a lot of the time when someone who does not have perfect Irish speaks, they get shouted down by the language purists.

We should be encouraging as many people as possible to speak Irish, not complaining that they used the same phrase a few times

Of course, let me add that there is nothing a detest more than snobbery in terms of irish or any other language. Those that think they are great at it, and give no time or respect to the problems of learners putting in the effort. I would consider myself to have a good understanding of the language, but I don't claim to know more than coggins by any means, I just pondered the needless throwing in of a phrase in every second line.

The main point is: Clucko didn't speak any irish

Was this a long winded way of attacking Goggins' Irish?

not really, not for me to say he has bad irish. I understood everything he said in the interview, which lasted over 10 mins, just thought it pure ridic that he said IS DOCHA about 30 times

[Geezer didn't say any irish in 2002]

Firstly, I wasn't expecting a classic speech from cluxton, can anyone remember what he said, as I don't. But surely a teacher like him could mutter one good sentence in irish when lifting the sam, is that too much to ask? Geezer didn't say any irish in 2002, so I can't defend Armagh on this but if jarly burns was still playing at least the whole thing would have been as gaeilge.

Anyway, over the last 2 days I have been listening to interviews on the radio with dubs top gaeilgeoir coman goggins, we'll I've never heard so much nonsense in my life. Basically he said ' is docha' at the start or end of every sentence. There is no way he needed to ' I suppose' or probably in every sentence, pure bluffing if ever I heard it.

Although it's great to hear anyone trying to speak irish, I think Dublin gaeilge turns my guts as it sounds so D4

He said "LISTEN! LISTEN! LISTEN! LISTEN! LISTEN! GET BACK!"

I know the history of the occasion probably got to him, but I always thought it was a shame that the greatest day for my county was marred a little by that intro, I find it hard to watch to this day. Once he started talking he wasn't too bad though.

I remember it well, but watching it since you can see sean mccague annoying him at the time by harping in his ear to speak to the crowd, though i'm sure it was a genuine concern. I was right at the back on the mass numbers on the field so I didn't realise how bad the squeeze was.

Unfortunately geezer, much as I admire him, had the touch of cluxton about him in that he lifted a lot of cups without barely breaking a smile. Difference with geezer though is that journalists consider him to be a fascinating character to interview, and it was said recently he was always the most helpful manager to speak with after games, win or lose.

Ciaran Kilkenny...........training to be an Irish teacher........maybe when hes captain he can give plenty of speeches as gaeilge 

Yea, I've heard him before, think he went to gaelscoil . Ger brennan has done a few things on TG4, and he's a bit better. In fact I would have brennan as captain anyway, one of my favourite dub players

Firstly, I wasn't expecting a classic speech from cluxton, can anyone remember what he said, as I don't. But surely a teacher like him could mutter one good sentence in irish when lifting the sam, is that too much to ask? Geezer didn't say any irish in 2002, so I can't defend Armagh on this but if jarly burns was still playing at least the whole thing would have been as gaeilge.

Anyway, over the last 2 days I have been listening to interviews on the radio with dubs top gaeilgeoir coman goggins, we'll I've never heard so much nonsense in my life. Basically he said ' is docha' at the start or end of every sentence. There is no way he needed to ' I suppose' or probably in every sentence, pure bluffing if ever I heard it.

Although it's great to hear anyone trying to speak irish, I think Dublin gaeilge turns my guts as it sounds so D4

Although quiet and comes across as low key, his smugness really shines through in interviews. Hard to describe