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It's an urban myth 

McGeeney record as a manager is pretty horrible when setting aside the AI. For 5 years they never won a championship match, have been relegated multiple times, never won an ulster and he was badly found out when he sat and watched Kerry destroy their kick outs without changing anything.

https://www.irishnews.com/gaa/gaelic-football/kieran-mcgeeney-the-career-and-history-of-armaghs-manager-and-all-ireland-winner-EBYTZDBWQRFBJHXSAXKLSPDAWY/

I used to think the same but looking back now he got Armagh back competitive again and challenging and got us back to division 1 level.  Managers are judged on results and prizes of course but there is something to be said for a manager who can galvanise a squad, get them believing and buying into him. Nobody leaves the panel, nobody. He has also maximised the playing resources available to him based on slim pickings from underage. 

It's going to be tough on those lads getting back into it, especially with Jota such a long-standing member of a squad with many in place even longer. And a football squad is not like a normal workplace. These lads travel and room together  and team morale is much more important than it would be in a typical workplace.

Obviously it's all their jobs, and Slot and Van Dijk will have to do their best to maintain professional standards across the board, but it's hard to know what to expect,or what it's even reasonable to expect, from the club this season.

I guess they'll feel it out as they go.

Unchartered territory so it's hard to know what to expect.  It could set the team back, or instead galvanise them and strengthen their bond. 

Great game.

Kerry must be sick to the back teeth of Tyrone at this stage. 

As with a lot of deaths it seems things can conspire against people at times, leaving a lot of what ifs.

Devastating news and hard to take in.  What a wonderful player he was who embodied everything you would want to see as a supporter.  So sorry for his family and his three little kids who've lost a dad and an uncle.  Just awful.

Devastating news.  Hard to comprehend.  What a wonderful player he was.  So sorry for his family and his three little kids who've lost a dad and an uncle.  Just awful.

Is cramp allowed on a hot day? 

    

I think there has to be some sort of thoughtout response to different scenarios, call it a tactic or whatever term you want to use, but I would find it hard to believe that teams aren't looking at this. It's a different type of challenge now that teams can face.  "If the other team do this, what will we do?"  I would accept that a lot of it comes back to a level of intensity and hunger, and ability to field the ball, and go looking for it when you're team is under pressure.  But not so sure it's down to luck or chance. 

Different sport, but i remember when Rafa Benitez was at Liverpool, he was on record as saying he had a setplay for when the team were under pressure, or had just conceded a goal. It wasn't rocket science.  Along the lines of telling his goalie Pepa Reina to clear the ball, put it out of play over the sideline deep into the opponent's half and get reset. Or something to that effect. 

 

The old momentum breaker was the mystery injury, but that one doesn't get used anymore.

Philly McMahon on the Indo podcast suggested starting a bit of a schmozzle - nothing serious, just a bit of handbags stuff to break the momentum! 

Teams need to have a default tactic to go to when they're getting pressed on their kickouts. For every tactic there's a counter tactic.  Teams simply can't afford to get hammered on the kickout like that. Maybe Armagh did have  a tactic (hit it to the wings), and it just wasn't enough on the day. From where i was sitting high up in the Davin, Rafferty didn't have a lot of options to kick to. There wasn't much movement and the spaces were pretty much closed off. Eye of the needle stuff trying to pick out a player to ping it to in those circumstances.  So the only thing was to try and belt it as long as f... up the pitch and hope one of our players could break it or flick it on for a player running into oceans of space.  If a team like Kerry are pushing up, there's going to be space behind - they don't have 17 players on the pitch.  If we had got in behind them just the once, that would have scared them enough to stop pushing up. All ifs and maybes, but the lesson for other teams caught in the same scenario is have a tactic to go to, something that will break the cycle.  It's not the first time this has happened this year, with the effect of the new rules.  I saw Armagh do the same thing in the league match with Dublin.  Only difference was, it was in the first half and Dublin had a chance to regroup at half time.  The timing of Kerry's press was perfect for them - the third quarter when the game was there to be won, and Armagh didn't have the benefit of a half time analysis to figure out what was happening and a chance to regroup.  Plenty of learning there for Tyrone.

[Don't know about that now, there was Armagh fans thinking they'd beat Kerry by 8 points or more.As long as Kerry have Clifford they have a chance]

This Kerry team got 3/4 passengers and rely on 3/4 special players. They missing their midfield, so nobody under or over rated them, just better team on the day.

Don't know about that now, there was Armagh fans thinking they'd beat Kerry by 8 points or more.

As long as Kerry have Clifford they have a chance

All under the age of 20 probably, or possibly from Kerry. Anyone with cop on weren't writing Kerry off.

Dick Clerkin was right about this Armagh team.

What did he say about them?

Weakest team to ever win the AI.

Clerkin is a gobshite and is bit rich coming out with that from Monaghan.
A team can do no more than win the All Ireland in a given year.. Tyrone constantly had to listen to that begrudgery. . Puke football.. covid All Ireland..   

Did Clerkin actually say that? Before the Ulster final  he wrote 'as reigning All-Ireland champions, they demand respect' and thought they could beat Donegal. He also said that Armagh still have a lot to prove before being ranked as serious AI contenders this year.
Dick has being proved absolutely correct, Armagh like Monaghan went out without a whimper

Nope. Yer man is taking shite as usual. Clerkin wasn't exactly being effusive about Armagh winning last year but he didn't say that.

Everyone's hopping on the woke train here these days.

Nothing wrong with the Mayo CB statement.

Time to move on now.

Not about being woke or whatever that means.  It's about being decent.