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[gallsman]

I didn't read anything saying that either, but one report, possibly the Telegraph, mentioned one of the reasons for objecting to bail was the likelihood of re-offending, which I found a bit odd.

[square_ball]

It was on the RTE website report. Joe Brolly objected to it being used as a reason for refusing bail as well as the other reasons.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Think the Belfast Live fb page alluded to previous incidents/outsanding allegations which Brolly wasnt happy with

[Estimator]

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Very tragic and it can happen to anyone. However its the actions or in this case the lack of actions which is the issue. Leaving someone out there for 15 mins and then dragging them in without any kind of assistance is the big issue along with lying to the police at the initial stage.

Yes and Doherty was refused bail because of a few other incidents.

Where are you pulling that from??

From the RTE report..

Police objected to bail, contending he is likely to reoffend, adding they are looking into reports of allegations of other assaults, and that there are witnesses to the weekend's events that they have still to speak to.

Barrister Joe Brolly, acting for Mr Doherty, objected to allegations of previous assaults being raised, saying "this is already a difficult situation where a young man has lost his life".

He referred to "speculative incidents that haven't been investigated".

"It's entirely prejudicial in the absence of any evidence that would be acceptable in a court of law," he said.

[rodney trotter]

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Very tragic and it can happen to anyone. However its the actions or in this case the lack of actions which is the issue. Leaving someone out there for 15 mins and then dragging them in without any kind of assistance is the big issue along with lying to the police at the initial stage.

Yes and Doherty was refused bail because of a few other incidents.

Where are you pulling that from??

From RTE...

[screenexile]

You didn't read it very well that's not what the RTE article says...

"There is a concern that the court would have that there is a risk that the defendant could either interfere with the investigation or the course of justice. That was the only reason I'm not minded to admit him to bail,"

[Tony Baloney]

The headline of nearly every article online makes mention of the fact that he appears to have left the chap unresponsive for so long. Difficult to muster much sympathy if that indeed proves to be the case. As said above its generally the fall that does the damage. If you are 6 foot tall and you go down like you've been felled that's a long way for your head to travel towards a kerb at speed.

[RedHand88]

RTE news report says that the police objected to bail on grounds they were investigating other assault allegations and that there were witnesses they still needed to speak to.

The same article also goes on to say judge refused just on the fact there were witnesses still to speak to first.

So you are both sort of right.

[rodney trotter]

You didn't read it very well that's not what the RTE article says...

"There is a concern that the court would have that there is a risk that the defendant could either interfere with the investigation or the course of justice. That was the only reason I'm not minded to admit him to bail,"

Well you didn't read it very well either..

[seafoid]

The headline of nearly every article online makes mention of the fact that he appears to have left the chap unresponsive for so long. Difficult to muster much sympathy if that indeed proves to be the case. As said above its generally the fall that does the damage. If you are 6 foot tall and you go down like you've been felled that's a long way for your head to travel towards a kerb at speed.

Leaving him on the road for 15 minutes and then propped up against the bar without calling an ambulance seem to be the 2 key points for the prosecution.

[93-DY-SAM]

A lot of lads speculating here on something they have just read about in a newspaper. Two families caught up in this very tragic incident and a man dead.
Can you not all wait for the final verdict and the whole story to come out before jumping to conclusions and assumptions?

[nrico2006]

A lot of lads speculating here on something they have just read about in a newspaper. Two families caught up in this very tragic incident and a man dead.
Can you not all wait for the final verdict and the whole story to come out before jumping to conclusions and assumptions?

People discuss newsworthy events, that's life.

[David McKeown]

The headline of nearly every article online makes mention of the fact that he appears to have left the chap unresponsive for so long. Difficult to muster much sympathy if that indeed proves to be the case. As said above its generally the fall that does the damage. If you are 6 foot tall and you go down like you've been felled that's a long way for your head to travel towards a kerb at speed.

Leaving him on the road for 15 minutes and then propped up against the bar without calling an ambulance seem to be the 2 key points for the prosecution.

They wouldn't be factors in terms of securing the conviction but would be relevant to sentencing if an individual is convicted

[Wildweasel74]

Am 10mins down the road from this hence not gonna really comment online, but it best wait to the full details on what happened, is released,

[Truth hurts]

A very sad situation , praying for everybody