The Palestine thread

[Angelo]

Ignore the anti-Russian racist above.

Palsetine has an ally in Russia and Premier Putin.

https://www.haaretz.com/russia-s-putin-pledges-support-for-palestinian-state-1.5344154

[sid waddell]

Sure the US officially supports a Palestinian state

But we all know they don't give a fook

And neither does Russia

Try telling that to a racist trollbot though 

[general_lee]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/israel-destroys-irish-aid-to-palestinian-village-community-1.4489881

Is it not time Ireland started imposing diplomatic sanctions on Israel? Should have been done decades ago but better late than never.

Let's try and get this back on track eh?
Woukd the Irish have the balls to impose any sanctions? Even if they did Israel would hit them with the anti Semitic line. That holds a lot of countries in check  when it comes to Israel

In an ideal world, you'd expel the Israeli ambassador, suspend diplomatic relations, limit or ban travel for Israeli passport holders into Ireland, impose sanctions on Israeli companies trading in Ireland and a general ban on Israeli products being imported. I'm not sure how any of that is possible due to conflict with EU policies; nor do I think we have any one in our right wing government that even entertain the idea.

[Angelo]

Sure the US officially supports a Palestinian state

But we all know they don't give a fook

And neither does Russia

Try telling that to a racist trollbot though 

They don't and have never proclaimed to.

Putin has been definitive on the matter, he supports a Palestine state but as you are a nasty racist you are incapable of dealing in the truth.

[Angelo]

FAO Racist Sidney

http://palestineun.org/about-palestine/diplomatic-relations/

Russia have recongised the Palestenian state since 19 November 1988, the date of their independence, that's 32 years ago.

The Russian premier has publicly and unequivocally backed an independent Palestinian states.

Amercia and the EU and rest of the west do not recognise Palestine and to say otherwise is just telling bare faced lies.

[Angelo]

Countries who recognise Palestine in green.

[seafoid]

What sanctions could Ireland impose that would make a difference?

The place is a disaster, how governments allow what goes on  or deal with Israel like the do is embarrassing.

Take away the septic line and it's heart of hearts it's a occupying force squeezing the life out of Palestinians

Anyone that supports a country that occupies another country is a Cnut 

Could the ambassador be removed maybe? Is that an option. Israel need to be shown that they cannot operate with impunity

What hold do they have on countries?

I wish I knew. I genuinely think countries don't want to go against them because they don't want to be labelled as anti Semitic

It's because The West are allies with Israel.

They have no worries about allegations of islamophobia.

That's part of it. And for some reason being islamophobic is not considered as bad as being anti Semitic. Look at the tories v Corbyn for example. As long as Israel continue to play the AS card every time they are criticised this will continue to be the case. It happens at every level. Even on twitter when you criticise Israel someone comes along with the AS line

AS won't work for much longer.
Israel is running apartheid and more and more people understand that.

Unfortunately it will continue to work, probably even more effectively than before, because Israel has immense influence in Western politics and media

The international right is shot through with genuine anti-Semitism, but this is overlooked because all these anti-Semites are fervently pro-Israel

There is also a minority of the pro-Palestine left which engages in genuine anti-Semitism and is too thick to see it, which sadly harms Palestine even further

You also have the international cult of neo-Nazism which wishes for another Holocaust, and so sees Palestine as a way to achieve this - Palestine would obviously be much better off without their unwanted support

Palestine has no allies, apart from the majority of the ordinary people internationally who see how it is treated - which absolutely is apartheid - but they have no power

Russia is an ally of Israel, many of the most hardline right-wingers in Israel are of Russian or Soviet origin, and Russia's ally Assad has several times bombed Palestinian refugee camps

So the tragic reality is Palestine has no hope whatsoever

The Zionists were forced to take Corbyn out . In the open. Straight out of the antisemitic fraud the Protocols of the elders of Zion. Israeli embassy involved as well.as Board of Deputies. Why?

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200414-keir-starmer-as-labour-party-leader-what-this-means-for-palestine/amp/

"For the pro-Israel lobby, the goal is to have a leader bound by the current Western economic and imperialist order, it is likely that this will happen through Starmer's strong support for the IHRA and the agency held over him by pro-Israel groups."

They want neoliberalism to.continue because of the wealth distribution. Israel is dependent on behind the scenes lobbying that is very f**king expensive.

The next crash.on the Lehman scale will.send interest rates to minus 4%
Neoliberalism is dying. When it does expire some version of socialism will replace it whether Israel likes it or not.
Billionaire Zionists will be taxed to irrelevance

Israel revealed its fragility when it went after Corbyn.

[Angelo]

And the new Labour leader.

[sid waddell]

What sanctions could Ireland impose that would make a difference?

The place is a disaster, how governments allow what goes on  or deal with Israel like the do is embarrassing.

Take away the septic line and it's heart of hearts it's a occupying force squeezing the life out of Palestinians

Anyone that supports a country that occupies another country is a Cnut 

Could the ambassador be removed maybe? Is that an option. Israel need to be shown that they cannot operate with impunity

What hold do they have on countries?

I wish I knew. I genuinely think countries don't want to go against them because they don't want to be labelled as anti Semitic

It's because The West are allies with Israel.

They have no worries about allegations of islamophobia.

That's part of it. And for some reason being islamophobic is not considered as bad as being anti Semitic. Look at the tories v Corbyn for example. As long as Israel continue to play the AS card every time they are criticised this will continue to be the case. It happens at every level. Even on twitter when you criticise Israel someone comes along with the AS line

AS won't work for much longer.
Israel is running apartheid and more and more people understand that.

Unfortunately it will continue to work, probably even more effectively than before, because Israel has immense influence in Western politics and media

The international right is shot through with genuine anti-Semitism, but this is overlooked because all these anti-Semites are fervently pro-Israel

There is also a minority of the pro-Palestine left which engages in genuine anti-Semitism and is too thick to see it, which sadly harms Palestine even further

You also have the international cult of neo-Nazism which wishes for another Holocaust, and so sees Palestine as a way to achieve this - Palestine would obviously be much better off without their unwanted support

Palestine has no allies, apart from the majority of the ordinary people internationally who see how it is treated - which absolutely is apartheid - but they have no power

Russia is an ally of Israel, many of the most hardline right-wingers in Israel are of Russian or Soviet origin, and Russia's ally Assad has several times bombed Palestinian refugee camps

So the tragic reality is Palestine has no hope whatsoever

The Zionists were forced to take Corbyn out . In the open. Straight out of the antisemitic fraud the Protocols of the elders of Zion. Israeli embassy involved as well.as Board of Deputies. Why?

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200414-keir-starmer-as-labour-party-leader-what-this-means-for-palestine/amp/

"For the pro-Israel lobby, the goal is to have a leader bound by the current Western economic and imperialist order, it is likely that this will happen through Starmer's strong support for the IHRA and the agency held over him by pro-Israel groups."

They want neoliberalism to.continue because of the wealth distribution. Israel is dependent on behind the scenes lobbying that is very f**king expensive.

The next crash.on the Lehman scale will.send interest rates to minus 4%
Neoliberalism is dying. When it does expire some version of socialism will replace it whether Israel likes it or not.
Billionaire Zionists will be taxed to irrelevance

Israel revealed its fragility when it went after Corbyn.

Sorry but none of that is going to change the situation where the pro-Israel lobby is dominant

They are only going to get more dominant

Sure GB News and a rival Murdoch station are launching very soon in Britain

The Republican party despite being viciously anti-Semitic is also viciously anti-Palestine, as are the leadership of the Democratic party

Look at the Boyle brothers, who are Democrats, they are also viciously anti-Palestine

The woke left are the only hope whatsoever for Palestine in the US, so you better hope AOC gets to be president

[Angelo]

What sanctions could Ireland impose that would make a difference?

The place is a disaster, how governments allow what goes on  or deal with Israel like the do is embarrassing.

Take away the septic line and it's heart of hearts it's a occupying force squeezing the life out of Palestinians

Anyone that supports a country that occupies another country is a Cnut 

Could the ambassador be removed maybe? Is that an option. Israel need to be shown that they cannot operate with impunity

What hold do they have on countries?

I wish I knew. I genuinely think countries don't want to go against them because they don't want to be labelled as anti Semitic

It's because The West are allies with Israel.

They have no worries about allegations of islamophobia.

That's part of it. And for some reason being islamophobic is not considered as bad as being anti Semitic. Look at the tories v Corbyn for example. As long as Israel continue to play the AS card every time they are criticised this will continue to be the case. It happens at every level. Even on twitter when you criticise Israel someone comes along with the AS line

AS won't work for much longer.
Israel is running apartheid and more and more people understand that.

Unfortunately it will continue to work, probably even more effectively than before, because Israel has immense influence in Western politics and media

The international right is shot through with genuine anti-Semitism, but this is overlooked because all these anti-Semites are fervently pro-Israel

There is also a minority of the pro-Palestine left which engages in genuine anti-Semitism and is too thick to see it, which sadly harms Palestine even further

You also have the international cult of neo-Nazism which wishes for another Holocaust, and so sees Palestine as a way to achieve this - Palestine would obviously be much better off without their unwanted support

Palestine has no allies, apart from the majority of the ordinary people internationally who see how it is treated - which absolutely is apartheid - but they have no power

Russia is an ally of Israel, many of the most hardline right-wingers in Israel are of Russian or Soviet origin, and Russia's ally Assad has several times bombed Palestinian refugee camps

So the tragic reality is Palestine has no hope whatsoever

The Zionists were forced to take Corbyn out . In the open. Straight out of the antisemitic fraud the Protocols of the elders of Zion. Israeli embassy involved as well.as Board of Deputies. Why?

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200414-keir-starmer-as-labour-party-leader-what-this-means-for-palestine/amp/

"For the pro-Israel lobby, the goal is to have a leader bound by the current Western economic and imperialist order, it is likely that this will happen through Starmer's strong support for the IHRA and the agency held over him by pro-Israel groups."

They want neoliberalism to.continue because of the wealth distribution. Israel is dependent on behind the scenes lobbying that is very f**king expensive.

The next crash.on the Lehman scale will.send interest rates to minus 4%
Neoliberalism is dying. When it does expire some version of socialism will replace it whether Israel likes it or not.
Billionaire Zionists will be taxed to irrelevance

Israel revealed its fragility when it went after Corbyn.

Sorry but none of that is going to change the situation where the pro-Israel lobby is dominant

They are only going to get more dominant

Sure GB News and a rival Murdoch station are launching very soon in Britain

The Republican party despite being viciously anti-Semitic is also viciously anti-Palestine, as are the leadership of the Democratic party

Look at the Boyle brothers, who are Democrats, they are also viciously anti-Palestine

The woke left are the only hope whatsoever for Palestine in the US, so you better hope AOC gets to be president

Only took you successive posts on this thread to contradict yourself.

[sid waddell]

Another little discussed link between Russia and Israel is the mafia connection - many if not most Russian mobsters have Israeli citizenship

Sure where does Abramovich hide out - Israel

Semion Mogilevich is in and out of Israel

Netanyahu is almost certainly mixed up in this world of international organised crime, as is Trump, and Russia is a mafia state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_mafia#Russian_mafia

Russian mafia
The Russian mafia in Israel began with the mass immigration of Russian Jews to Israel in 1989.[14] Jewish Russian crime bosses such as Semion Mogilevich acquired Israeli citizenship and laundered money through Israel.

The Russian mafia saw Israel as an ideal place to launder money, as Israel's banking system was designed to encourage aliyah, the immigration of Jews, and the accompanying capital. Following the trend of global financial deregulation, Israel had also implemented legislation aimed at easing the movement of capital. Combined with the lack of anti-money laundering legislation, Russian organised crime found it an easy place to transfer ill-gotten gains. In 2005, police estimated that Russian organised crime had laundered between $5 and 10 billion in the fifteen years since the end of the Soviet Union. Non-Jewish criminals such as Sergei Mikhailov sought to get Israeli passports, using fake Jewish documentation.[15]

Russian and Ukrainian Jewish criminals have also been able to set up networks in the United States, following the large migration of Russian Jews to New York City and Miami, but also in European cities such as Berlin and Antwerp. Russian-Jewish mobsters include Marat Balagula, Evsei Agron and their respective criminal gangs in the United States. Soviet-Jewish criminal groups in the United States are involved in racketeering, prostitution, drug trafficking, extortion, and gasoline fraud as well as murder.[16]

[Angelo]

Another little discussed link between Russia and Israel is the mafia connection - many if not most Russian mobsters have Israeli citizenship

Sure where does Abramovich hide out - Israel

Semion Mogilevich is in and out of Israel

Netanyahu is almost certainly mixed up in this world of international organised crime, as is Trump, and Russia is a mafia state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_mafia#Russian_mafia

Russian mafia
The Russian mafia in Israel began with the mass immigration of Russian Jews to Israel in 1989.[14] Jewish Russian crime bosses such as Semion Mogilevich acquired Israeli citizenship and laundered money through Israel.

The Russian mafia saw Israel as an ideal place to launder money, as Israel's banking system was designed to encourage aliyah, the immigration of Jews, and the accompanying capital. Following the trend of global financial deregulation, Israel had also implemented legislation aimed at easing the movement of capital. Combined with the lack of anti-money laundering legislation, Russian organised crime found it an easy place to transfer ill-gotten gains. In 2005, police estimated that Russian organised crime had laundered between $5 and 10 billion in the fifteen years since the end of the Soviet Union. Non-Jewish criminals such as Sergei Mikhailov sought to get Israeli passports, using fake Jewish documentation.[15]

Russian and Ukrainian Jewish criminals have also been able to set up networks in the United States, following the large migration of Russian Jews to New York City and Miami, but also in European cities such as Berlin and Antwerp. Russian-Jewish mobsters include Marat Balagula, Evsei Agron and their respective criminal gangs in the United States. Soviet-Jewish criminal groups in the United States are involved in racketeering, prostitution, drug trafficking, extortion, and gasoline fraud as well as murder.[16]

Do you judge your beloved free state on the actions of the Kinahan gang?

You exposed yourself and your anti-Russian agenda in this thread by telling blatant untruths and you've done nothing to substantiate them.

Russia has been an ally of Palestine from day one, the 19th November 1988 and as much as you try and spin yet another case of Russia being on the right side yet again, you can't change the truth so you spread lies and misinformation.

[sid waddell]

You are ignoring this user. Show me the post.

Good point 

[screenexile]

Another little discussed link between Russia and Israel is the mafia connection - many if not most Russian mobsters have Israeli citizenship

Sure where does Abramovich hide out - Israel

Semion Mogilevich is in and out of Israel

Netanyahu is almost certainly mixed up in this world of international organised crime, as is Trump, and Russia is a mafia state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_mafia#Russian_mafia

Russian mafia
The Russian mafia in Israel began with the mass immigration of Russian Jews to Israel in 1989.[14] Jewish Russian crime bosses such as Semion Mogilevich acquired Israeli citizenship and laundered money through Israel.

The Russian mafia saw Israel as an ideal place to launder money, as Israel's banking system was designed to encourage aliyah, the immigration of Jews, and the accompanying capital. Following the trend of global financial deregulation, Israel had also implemented legislation aimed at easing the movement of capital. Combined with the lack of anti-money laundering legislation, Russian organised crime found it an easy place to transfer ill-gotten gains. In 2005, police estimated that Russian organised crime had laundered between $5 and 10 billion in the fifteen years since the end of the Soviet Union. Non-Jewish criminals such as Sergei Mikhailov sought to get Israeli passports, using fake Jewish documentation.[15]

Russian and Ukrainian Jewish criminals have also been able to set up networks in the United States, following the large migration of Russian Jews to New York City and Miami, but also in European cities such as Berlin and Antwerp. Russian-Jewish mobsters include Marat Balagula, Evsei Agron and their respective criminal gangs in the United States. Soviet-Jewish criminal groups in the United States are involved in racketeering, prostitution, drug trafficking, extortion, and gasoline fraud as well as murder.[16]

Do you judge your beloved free state on the actions of the Kinahan gang?

You exposed yourself and your anti-Russian agenda in this thread by telling blatant untruths and you've done nothing to substantiate them.

Russia has been an ally of Palestine from day one, the 19th November 1988 and as much as you try and spin yet another case of Russia being on the right side yet again, you can't change the truth so you spread lies and misinformation.

So Russia's occupation of Crimea is OK but Israel's occupation of Palestine isn't??

I'm no fan of any occupation but you seem happy enough to cherry pick the 1 relatively excusable thing Russia have done and forget about the cyber warfare/annexation/corruption/raping of its countries natural resources/disgraceful treatment of LGBTQ but they support Palestine so they're a great bunch of lads... warped!!

[Milltown Row2]

He's been found out so many times he forgets what he 'supports' and then continues to dig the biggest hole.