The Palestine thread

[Ball DeBeaver]

The next generation of Palestinians will hate Israel if they are taught to do so by their mothers. If the most sacred person in your world teaches you to hate someone, you'll hate it.

[seafoid]

If the people who drop the bombs on the refugee camps are Israelis and the kids all wet the bed with fear for years and there are no jobs because the Israelis won't let anything into the place obviously it's the fault of the mothers of the children that some of them are hostile to Israelis. When the kids ask "why did the Israelis drop half a billion dollars on us last month" the mothers should tell them about Abraham, is it ?

Why do the Israelis have to rule over the Palestinians with such cruelty ? 

[muppet]

The next generation of Palestinians will hate Israel if they are taught to do so by their mothers. If the most sacred person in your world teaches you to hate someone, you'll hate it.

So the root cause of the whole conflict is Palestinian mothers?

This from the man who calls their children 'son of satan'.

[Ball DeBeaver]

The only army bombing Palestinian refugee camps right now, is the Syrian army. The board is conspicuously silent in that regard.

[Ball DeBeaver]

The next generation of Palestinians will hate Israel if they are taught to do so by their mothers. If the most sacred person in your world teaches you to hate someone, you'll hate it.

So the root cause of the whole conflict is Palestinian mothers?

This from the man who calls their children 'son of satan'.

Put the glue bag down and read it again. I was clearly referring to mad willies son. 

[seafoid]

The only army bombing Palestinian refugee camps right now, is the Syrian army. The board is conspicuously silent in that regard.

Fixed that for you. 

Half a billion dollars in 8 days dropped on Gaza. For what ? 
Moshiach ?

[muppet]

The only army bombing Palestinian refugee camps right now, is the Syrian army. The board is conspicuously silent in that regard.

Yes indeed, Israel has put an entire Nation into defenceless refugee camps and they are completely exposed to tyranny from the likes of Assad, those who would exploit their position such as Iran and land hungry extremists in Israel. Yet you blame them for everything.

[seafoid]

The only army bombing Palestinian refugee camps right now, is the Syrian army. The board is conspicuously silent in that regard.

Yes indeed, Israel has put an entire Nation into defenceless refugee camps and they are completely exposed to tyranny from the likes of Assad, those who would exploit their position such as Iran and land hungry extremists in Israel. Yet you blame them for everything.

He says there is no such thing as a Palestinian. There never were Arabs there before the Zionists turned up according to the settlers. .

 

[Ball DeBeaver]

If the palestinian "state" is so concerned about the welfare of their pal brothers, why don't they just give them shelter, instead of using them as pawns in their twisted web of deceit.


Hamas, PA Leaders Refuse to Assist Suffering Syrian Brethren

Arab leaders, who court international sympathy by portraying their people as displaced victims, are refusing to help Syrian refugees.


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By Rachel Hirshfeld
First Publish: 1/8/2013, 9:06 PM

Syrian refugees at the Al-Zaatari refugee camp

Reuters

Palestinian leaders, who court international sympathy by portraying their people as displaced victims of Israel, are refusing to help tens of thousands of their brethren who have been displaced from homes and refugee camps as a result of the civil war plaguing the neighboring country of Syria.

Leaders of both Hamas and the Palestinian Authority have rebuffed requests by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency's (UNRWA) for assistance in stemming the humanitarian crisis in Syria, causing 150,000 Syrian citizens who claim "Palestinian" origins, to remain homeless and "facing freezing temperatures, missiles, bombs and food shortages," as Paul Alster of Fox News reports.

"[The UNRWA is] the only one taking care of the refugees in Syria, but that's not just now," Dr. Benedetta Berti, an international policy and security consultant and expert on Middle East affairs, told FoxNews.com. "The Palestinians have always deferred to the international community to provide for them (the refugees) so this is just business as usual."

Hamas Prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh believes that seeking refuge for Palestinians trapped in Syria could undermine his argument for a "Palestinian right of return" to what they deem "occupied Palestine," or, more accurately, the Jewish homeland in the State of Israel. The same rationale appears be one of the contributing factors to a similar lack of action from Mahmoud Abbas and his Palestinian Authority.

"The apparent unwillingness to lift a finger behind the scenes for fellow Palestinians in need is at odds with the Palestinians' public stance," Fox News reports, noting that Palestinian Ambassador to the U.N. Riyad Mansour, in a Dec. 19, 2012, letter to the UN Security Council, urged the world to help the Syrian refugees.

"The growing impact of this crisis on their (the refugees) human security and on the stability of the refugee camps has become of grave concern and compels me, on behalf of the Palestinian leadership, to call for the urgent attention of the international community to this matter," Mansour wrote.

Israel, on the other hand, has offered to send humanitarian aid to the Syrian people, but has, thus far, been rebuffed.

"A few months ago Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs offered to send humanitarian aid to the Syrian people, asking if it would be accepted through the Red Cross," Ilana Stein, deputy spokesperson at Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, told Fox. "The Red Cross contacted Syrian opposition representatives, but they said they didn't want it."
According to new figures released by the United Nations, at least 60,000 people have been killed in Syria's civil war, with monthly casualty figures steadily increasing since the conflict began almost two years ago.


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/163996

[muppet]

Fox News and the Israel National News? Wow. Must be objective then.

[seafoid]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/israel-vows-to-use-veto-power-if-chuck-hagel-confi


JERUSALEM—Top-ranking government officials in Jerusalem confirmed Tuesday that Israel would exercise its longstanding, constitutionally granted veto power over American policy if U.S. lawmakers confirmed retired congressman Chuck Hagel as the United States' next Secretary of Defense. "In light of Mr. Hagel's worrying remarks on Israeli-Palestinian relations and questionable classification of Israeli interests as 'the Jewish lobby,' we consider him a highly inappropriate choice for Defense Secretary who stands far out of line with our national priorities, and therefore we are prepared to swiftly and resolutely use our official veto power over this U.S. action," said Israeli government spokesperson Mark Regev of the legal maneuver that the small Middle Eastern nation has employed to block U.S. Cabinet nominees, U.S. legislation, U.S. international relations, and U.S. domestic policy over 1,400 times in its 64-year history. "Because congress does not possess the necessary nine-tenths majority to override an Israeli veto, they'll have no choice but to head back to the drawing board and provide a Defense Secretary whom we find more suitable." Sources confirmed that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had sent the White House a list of three individuals the Israeli leader considered appropriate to head the American military from which U.S. President Barack Obama could choose.

[seafoid]

Fox News and the Israel National News? Wow. Must be objective then.

Muppet

INN is a settler outfit.
Note the  language

"assistance in stemming the humanitarian crisis in Syria, causing 150,000 Syrian citizens who claim "Palestinian" origins"
"his argument for a "Palestinian right of return" to what they deem "occupied Palestine," or, more accurately, the Jewish homeland in the State of Israel."

They don't recognise the right of Palestinians to live in their own country.  Or that there are even such people as Palestinians.

That is the tragedy of Israel. These people are actually running the show.

[seafoid]

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/jewish-leaders-in-australia-say-media-not-so-fair-and-balanced-on-israel.premium-1.492862

"The turbulent relationship between Fairfax and Jewish leaders erupted again last month following the publication in The Age of a cartoon in the aftermath of Israel's showdown with Hamas that was branded as "virulent hate speech" by Dvir Abramovich, the Israeli-born chair of the B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation Commission.

The controversial cartoon – by the acclaimed Michael Leunig, who was declared an "Australian living treasure" by the National Trust in 1999, but who has also been a staunch critic of Israeli government policy – was an adaptation of German Pastor Martin Niemoller's famous "First they came for the Communists" poem.

In Niemoller's poem, which was originally a clarion call against apathy in the face of evil, "they" referred to the Nazis. In Leunig's parody, "they" referred to Israelis. "First they came for the Palestinians and I did not speak out..."
Abramovich led the chorus of condemnation arguing it "demonizes and vilifies Israelis and Jews" and is "the kind of hateful rhetoric you would expect on anti-Semitic websites, not The Age."

"In Leunig's world there are no Israeli victims, no blood spilt on the Israeli side of the border, no traumatized children or lives derailed," Abramovich argued. "There are only Israelis who are jackbooted Nazis determined to wipe them off the face of the earth."

The Anti-Defamation Commission requested a rebuttal in The Age but said it was rejected because "its claims about the cartoon were unreasonable."

The Age did, however, allow Leunig space to defend himself. "As a cartoonist I am not interested in defending the dominant, the powerful, the well-resourced and the well-armed because such groups are usually not in need of advocacy, moral support or sympathetic understanding," he wrote. "I am not against Israel but I am opposed to what I regard as its self-defeating, self-corrupting militarist policy, which is not only excessively homicidal and traumatizing but sows the seeds of irreversible hatred and can never bring a lasting peace."

Tzvi Fleischer, of the privately funded Australia/Israel & Jewish Affairs Council, argued in a paper for Jewish Political Studies Review that the Australian media has a "mixed record" on Israel.

"Beyond bias, certain themes emerging in the Australian media are examples of the new anti-Semitism," he wrote. "These include the alleged financial and media power of the Jewish lobby; an extreme demonization of Israel and extravagant assertions about the supposed worldwide effects of its policy toward the Palestinians; conspiracy theories about American Jewish neoconservatives; and a tendency to claim that anti-Semitism is a response to Jewish behavior and attitudes"




So there you have it. Any mention of the Israeli lobby or criticism of Israel's suicidal policies is antisemitic. 


Cartoon

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2012/12/12/219438-leunig-defends-his-cartoon-first-they-came-for-the-palestinians/

Israeli lobby response

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/comparing-nazis-to-israelis-is-unacceptable/story-e6frgd0x-1226534879253

[muppet]

I have never heard of "The Anti-Defamation Commission" but I know what it reminds me of.

Interesting that the Chair of that Commission used Nazi imagery and references.

[stew]

Fox News and the Israel National News? Wow. Must be objective then.

Riddle me this muppet, are CNN & CNBC for instance objective or is it just the right wing media outlets that have no objectivity?