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[seafoid]

Likud MK Vows 'Zoabi Law'; 'Her Proper Place Is Jail'
The next Knesset will be asked to pass a law to bar "Mavi Mamara" Zoabi from the legislature once and for all, Likud MK Danon said.


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By Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
First Publish: 12/30/2012, 11:52 AM




IHH terror activists preparing to attack IDF

IDF Spokesperson's Office



The next Knesset will be asked to pass a law that would put Arab MK "Mavi Mamara" Zoabi out of the legislature once and for all, Likud MK Danny Danon said Sunday, minutes after the High Court overruled a Knesset committee.

The court, in a unanimous vote, ruled as expected and gave the Balad party's list of candidates a green light, despite MK Hanin Zoabi's having been on board the Mavi Mamara boat nearly three years ago when its IHH terrorists clubbed and knifed Israeli commandos.

Before the decision, a petition to ban Zoabi from running for the Knesset gained 11,000 signatures.

The Knesset Election Committee decided two weeks ago that Zoabi cannot run, but her appeal to the High Court was accepted.

The Basic Law allows the Knesset committee to ban a list of MKs if it includes those who deny the establishment of the State of Israel as a democratic country, incite racism or support armed terrorist attacks by an enemy.

"The High Court decided today to support the Mavi Mamara terrorist [Zoabi] instead of Israeli commandos who were attacked with knives and clubs by terrorists of the IHH under the umbrella of immunity of Zoabi," said MK Danon.


"Her proper place is in jail."

He said he plans to introduce a change in  the Basic law to get around today's and previous court rulings overruling the Knesset. "The current law is not working," Danon said. "The law will be changed and Zoabi can be sure that her days in the Knesset are numbered."

The attacks on the Mavi Mamara caught the Navy commandos by surprise. The soldiers were unarmed, except for paint guns and personal revolvers strapped behind their backs. They descended on board by rope from a hovering helicopter to enforce a maritime embargo on Gaza, where the ship and five sister boats were headed.

Video footage and photographs proved that the attack was pre-planned. The terrorists kidnapped three commandos and severely wounded several of the soldiers until the troops were able to overcome the attackers, nine of whom were killed.


Zoabi did not personally participate in  the attacks but was detained, along with more than 600 others, when Israeli naval forces rerouted all six ships to the port city of Ashdod, several miles north of Gaza.
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Police released Zoabi shortly after her arrest because of parliamentary immunity, and she later told the Knesset, in an angry speech, the IHH attackers did not stage any provocation.
Zoabi
"It was clear from the size of the force that boarded the ship that the purpose was not only to stop this sail, but to cause the largest possible number of fatalities in order to stop such initiatives in the future," she later told Israeli media.


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/163687

Great link . Shows how poor the israeli arguments are. Furkan dogun , a US citizen  was unarmed and shot in the back of the head. There were no weapons on board. The zionists refused an independent inquiry  and bdb's settlers call those israel murdered terrorists .

[seafoid]

Israel used to be à democracy . Zoabi is a politician but she is palestinian so she has to be taken out.

[Ball DeBeaver]

It has a law which entitles any jew anywhere to immediate citizenship .It  is the  soi  disant Jewish  state . It shuts  down on saturdays . It only observes Jewish holidays. It only funds Jewish archaeology .  Half of its population is not  Jewish. Why are we supposed not to mention 'jew 'in the same breath  as israel ? It suits the settlers  in hebron  to paint  stars of David alongside graffiti like 'gas the arabs' but any use of the term jew on this board is antisemitic . BS.

Israel doesn't stop someone from moving there because they aren't Jewish. Positive discrimination is in use in many countries world wide. UK and Ireland observe only Christian holidays, with the vast majority of laws based on Christian beliefs. There are extremists in every country who will paint graffiti with their warped views, Israel is no different.

[Itchy]

Folks, any chance we can keep this thread civilised ?

No problem, see there is some debate actually happening now instead of the endless cut and paste from the various newspapers. No need to thank me.

[seafoid]

It has a law which entitles any jew anywhere to immediate citizenship .It  is the  soi  disant Jewish  state . It shuts  down on saturdays . It only observes Jewish holidays. It only funds Jewish archaeology .  Half of its population is not  Jewish. Why are we supposed not to mention 'jew 'in the same breath  as israel ? It suits the settlers  in hebron  to paint  stars of David alongside graffiti like 'gas the arabs' but any use of the term jew on this board is antisemitic . BS.

Israel doesn't stop someone from moving there because they aren't Jewish. Positive discrimination is in use in many countries world wide. UK and Ireland observe only Christian holidays, with the vast majority of laws based on Christian beliefs. There are extremists in every country who will paint graffiti with their warped views, Israel is no different.

any jew gets a passport. 10000 east jerusalem palestinians lose residency rights in their own city every year. There are no muslim public holidays in israel. Almost half of the population of greater israel.is muslim. Israel is worse than norn irn was in the 1920s. At least the unionists never used white phosphorous. Comparing Israel to the uk is a joke. The uk doesn't denominate road access on the basis of religion.

[give her dixie]

Folks, any chance we can keep this thread civilised ?

No problem, see there is some debate actually happening now instead of the endless cut and paste from the various newspapers. No need to thank me.

Ah, sure seeing as it's Christmas, I will thank you anyway 

[Itchy]

Folks, any chance we can keep this thread civilised ?

No problem, see there is some debate actually happening now instead of the endless cut and paste from the various newspapers. No need to thank me.

Ah, sure seeing as it's Christmas, I will thank you anyway

You're very welcome, it was my pleasure.

[johnneycool]

What degree of autonomy are they prepared to offer to the Palestinians?

I think they would eventually give them full autonomy, in their own land.

What is their own land?

Are we going back to the Balfour declaration where the Rothschilds did a deal with the devil in 1922 or using a bible of one sort or another?

[Ball DeBeaver]

It has a law which entitles any jew anywhere to immediate citizenship .It  is the  soi  disant Jewish  state . It shuts  down on saturdays . It only observes Jewish holidays. It only funds Jewish archaeology .  Half of its population is not  Jewish. Why are we supposed not to mention 'jew 'in the same breath  as israel ? It suits the settlers  in hebron  to paint  stars of David alongside graffiti like 'gas the arabs' but any use of the term jew on this board is antisemitic . BS.

Israel doesn't stop someone from moving there because they aren't Jewish. Positive discrimination is in use in many countries world wide. UK and Ireland observe only Christian holidays, with the vast majority of laws based on Christian beliefs. There are extremists in every country who will paint graffiti with their warped views, Israel is no different.

any jew gets a passport. 10000 east jerusalem palestinians lose residency rights in their own city every year. There are no muslim public holidays in israel. Almost half of the population of greater israel.is muslim. Israel is worse than norn irn was in the 1920s. At least the unionists never used white phosphorous. Comparing Israel to the uk is a joke. The uk doesn't denominate road access on the basis of religion.

Where do you get your population numbers from? Out of a population of 7,981,000 Israel is 75.4% jewish, muslim 20.6% with the rest made up of christians etc. Some roads are restricted to cars with non Israeli number plates, nothing to do with the drivers religion. This is a security measure to cut down the number of drive-by shootings, and has been a big success.

[johnneycool]

What degree of autonomy are they prepared to offer to the Palestinians?

I think they would eventually give them full autonomy, in their own land.

What is their own land?

Are we going back to the Balfour declaration where the Rothschilds did a deal with the devil in 1922 or using a bible of one sort or another?

any chance of some clarification?

[Ball DeBeaver]

Are you Itchy in disguise?

In their own land = In their own state.

Crystal?

[johnneycool]

Are you Itchy in disguise?

In their own land = In their own state.

Crystal?

Nothings crystal in the mirky world left after the imperial empires have left places in a sorry state.

where is this own state/own land you talk of and when did it come into existence?

[Ball DeBeaver]

Two pieces of land, East and West of the state of Israel. Palestine, I think they call it. They could have a lot more land in 1947 if they had accepted the UN resolution, but choose to refuse and ended up losing a hell of a lot more. Not the sharpest tools in the box.
Please call again if you want to discuss it seriously.

[Itchy]

Are you Itchy in disguise?

In their own land = In their own state.

Crystal?

Nothings crystal in the mirky world left after the imperial empires have left places in a sorry state.

where is this own state/own land you talk of and when did it come into existence?

Israel's borders, in their own warped minds, grow larger every day as they ethnically cleanse people and then plant settlers on that same land. They use the politics of fear to do this, exaggerating the threat igniting memories of the holocaust in the minds of the Israeli population so that they will support these actions of theft, cleansing and murder for "security". Its the same formula used by America when invading Iraq illegally and of course that threat was a lie. The Arab world is no threat to Israel who sits on an arsenal of nuclear weapons. Israel is all about stealing land to make a larger Jewish state and whoever has to pay for that dream, well that is their tough luck. Not until the us grows some balls and starts doing what is right and starts ignoring the ferocious Jewish lobby will anything ever change.

[johnneycool]

Two pieces of land, East and West of the state of Israel. Palestine, I think they call it. They could have a lot more land in 1947 if they had accepted the UN resolution, but choose to refuse and ended up losing a hell of a lot more. Not the sharpest tools in the box.
Please call again if you want to discuss it seriously.

So the state of Israel existed pre 1947?

Image the Palestinians not being happy with the UN making them concede land to a then non-existent Israeli nation, just to appease the British who'd already done a deal with Rothschild during WWI.