https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2023/01/30/mother-seeks-injunction-stopping-dublin-gaa-club-from-allegedly-banning-kids-from-training/
A mother of four has asked the High Court for an injunction restraining Dublin-based GAA side Fingallians from barring her children from participating in club activities.
Sinead O'Farrell, of Sandford Wood, Swords, was on Monday granted permission by Mr Justice Brian O'Moore to serve short notice of the injunction proceedings on the officials of Fingallians GAA Club.
Richard Kean SC, for Ms O'Farrell, told the court his client was seeking the restraints on behalf of her children Luca (10), Cai (eight), Nia (six) and Alia (five) who, along with her and their father, Jason, have been banned from the club.
Mr Kean, with Ger Colleran BL, instructed by Robinson Solicitors, said the O'Farrells were paid-up members of Fingallians, of Seatown West, Swords, and all of her children play football and hurling. The application seeks injunctions against club officials Colin Foley, Carl Jones, Eoin Martin, Denis McCarthy, Sarah Nixon and Pat Ward.
In an affidavit, Ms O'Farrell said a dispute arose following a boys under-9 football tournament in Newry, Co Down last year. She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group.
The fallout from the tournament led to her husband and other adults whose children were part of the group being fired as volunteer under-9 coaches in September, she claimed. Since the removal of those parents, she said, communications and meetings with club officials have not resolved the matter.
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
Sounds like it. Madness.
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
The fact that this is in the courts means some of those involved have more money than sense.
This stinks.
I find it hard to believe that this is worthy of a court's time.
Ireland's horrible dissent into being just like America continues.
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
But throwing 4 kids out of the club because a parent may or may not be a pain in the hole isn't right either
We don't know the details BB. Too early to stick the boot into the club. Too early to stick the boot into the family too.... except as they've brought it to court they're likely either exceptionally passionate or exceptionally difficult people (or perhaps both).
GUBU stuff :o
It doesn't really state why the kids are banned, and I can see nothing in the article that says they are.
A club should be able to select and deselect its own coaches.
If they travelled all the way to Newry they should have been giving game time to any players they brought with them.
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 09:55:42 PM
It doesn't really state why the kids are banned, and I can see nothing in the article that says they are.
A club should be able to select and deselect its own coaches.
If they travelled all the way to Newry they should have been giving game time to any players they brought with them.
Agreed.
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
exactly. Don't know whether the club were trying to give equal game time and the parents wanted to win the (Under-9!) competition, or the coaches were playing the best players and the parents wanted all the kids to get a game.
Either way, there has to have been a number of opportunities since for both parties to have come to an agreement on this. Ridiculous sideshow with the kids losing out at the end. Anybody around the area know the back story?
I'm not sure how this is any of a court's business. I'm sure there were internal channels in the GAA that could have been used to settle it.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 30, 2023, 11:40:15 PM
I'm not sure how this is any of a court's business. I'm sure there were internal channels in the GAA that could have been used to settle it.
What if those channels have already been exhausted?
"she said,
communications and meetings with club officials have not resolved the matter."Richard Kean SC ?? that's serious money!
The club will have to prove that they had just cause to ban the kids with reference to the club constitution.
Imo, don't punish the kids for (perceived) sins of the parents.
It will be interesting to see what the judge says because it's under 9s and it is voluntary. The mother is obviously pissed off that the kids were kicked out of the club but she can always go to another club.
Vindictive parents of young kids in sports teams are a hoor.
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Names tell you everything you need to know about the parents!
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
Yeah thats true, but surely you don't take players that distance if you aren't gonna play them.
Surely every child got a game. I'd be surprised if around 30 kids went to Newry from Dublin with a handful getting gametime. I was coaching our u-9s last year, and every club we played had 2 or 3 teams. I'd like to imagine this tournament was no different.
It's hard to imagine how an under 9 GAA tournament can end up in the High Court.
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
A lot of Parents do not do coaching 101. If Mammy and Daddy drive 70 miles to see young Ross "who could be the next Brian Fenton, dontcha know" and the coach is "losing games they could have won, if only Ross was started instead of Reggie, well less said about his ability but..."
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
YES! It's a day out. Jesus Christ!
Although the older I have got the more I see that A LOT of people are not wise in the head.
What's a prestigious u9 tournament?
I've coached u9s/u11s and there's a real mixed bag of personalities.
Coaches - majority are there with their own kids. Majority go out of their way to make sure that every kid gets as much game time as possible and to improve their basic skills, but also to try to make it fun. If it's not fun, they don't want to come and you could lose them forever. It's all about bringing those kids on so that the club has potential senior players in years to come. But....and I've first hand experience of this, some coaches are there to make their wee jimmy the star of the u9s and a future county player. They have no time for the wee lad who can't solo or score from 30 yards. Would play his own lad all day every day and god help anyone who suggests he should be taken off. Has no issue telling kids how crap they are when they lose. This coach needs to win every tournament, as determined as if it's Sam Maguire. In my opinion, not the type of coach you want with under age kids and I've seen it causing ructions with parents and kids.
Parents - majority want their kids to enjoy it, keep fit, make friends and if they happen to make a good footballer in years ahead, then so be it. The majority are happy if their child is getting a fair amount of game time - most are realistic about how "good" their child is and so long as they are improving and getting a chance to improve, the parents are happy. But....some parents think their wee jimmy is the star and should be playing all game every game and can't understand why their child prodigy was taken off during that u9 tournament to give a wee lad with two left feet a half when all he's interested in is looking for butterflies. We could have won that tournament if he was playing. I don't buy into that. No-one is going to remember who won an u9 tournament the day after it happens, but if you have 30 kids away home happy that they all got playing, even when they get beat, that's more valuable.
Kids - most want to have fun and play with their friends. Some want to play county. They ALL want to win when it comes to playing games and they ALL want to play every game. When they get beat at a tournament they feel bad, some cry, some go quiet. As a coach, I always try to show them that we're proud of how they all played and all tried their hardest (even if they didnt), because they are just kids and need that encouragement. Its good if they are disappointed, but important that they are encouraged and that hopefully helps them improve.
Every club has these personalities and it'll always be a constant battle where there are a small minority at under age who expect to win every tournament going and there will always be "expert" managers who can explain why the u9 coach got it wrong. What I'd say to those people is to get a grip. Tournament or not, if the kids are not enjoying it you've lost, and there is no way of knowing at u9s of the wee lad that can't solo is going to turn into the star senior footballer in 10 years time. Kids all develop at different rates so all should get treated the same at that level or you run the risk of losing a potential star senior footballer.
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
YES! It's a day out. Jesus Christ!
Although the older I have got the more I see that A LOT of people are not wise in the head.
I don't often agree with you Trailer, but I agree here 100%.
Quote from: John Martin on January 31, 2023, 10:16:30 AM
What's a prestigious u9 tournament?
One that clubs come from near and far to attend, as they wish to challenge themselves against the best sides.
——
I don't agree with competitive structures for under 9 football. But nor do I think that anyone should deny clubs, mentors and players the right to engage in competitive blitzes so long as everyone taking part understands what's going on.
Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to get their head checked. I don't care what doctrine you subscribe to.... You don't have the right to force other GAA folks into your narrow thoughts.
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
YES! It's a day out. Jesus Christ!
Although the older I have got the more I see that A LOT of people are not wise in the head.
We play non-competitive u9 leagues in Down. Which is right.
We enter non-competitive u9 blitzes too. Which is right.
But we also attend a handful of blitzes that aren't much different in concept to a Feile. You enter a division and you try to win it.
What on earth could possibly be wrong with a few competitive tournaments a year? What are you ao afraid of finding out, that it cannot be corrected over the following weeks in a non competitive environment?
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
YES! It's a day out. Jesus Christ!
Although the older I have got the more I see that A LOT of people are not wise in the head.
We play non-competitive u9 leagues in Down. Which is right.
We enter non-competitive u9 blitzes too. Which is right.
But we also attend a handful of blitzes that aren't much different in concept to a Feile. You enter a division and you try to win it.
What on earth could possibly be wrong with a few competitive tournaments a year? What are you ao afraid of finding out, that it cannot be corrected over the following weeks in a non competitive environment?
I don't think anyone has an issue with competitive tournaments, provided the same approach of getting all the kids on the pitch is taken.
We've had a few tournament invites where it says a max panel of 10-12, for example. That means we have to leave the majority of kids behind. I don't personally like that and it also annoys parents at that age.
If take that same approach to tournaments as go-games, where everyone plays then its all good. The problem is most teams go with the approach of strongest side out every game, and so the team that's using all their players can get destroyed at that age level and that doesn't help anyone.
I realise I'm probably in the minority with that view though and I don't expect the tournament approach to change.
Some tournaments have that setup of allowing multiple teams streamed into A/B etc. Then play for the cup/shield/plate depending on how they get on in the group sections. This is much better and gives all the players a chance to compete at their own level.
Maybe a Sam Maguire and Tailteann split would work at under 9 as well.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
YES! It's a day out. Jesus Christ!
Although the older I have got the more I see that A LOT of people are not wise in the head.
We play non-competitive u9 leagues in Down. Which is right.
We enter non-competitive u9 blitzes too. Which is right.
But we also attend a handful of blitzes that aren't much different in concept to a Feile. You enter a division and you try to win it.
What on earth could possibly be wrong with a few competitive tournaments a year? What are you ao afraid of finding out, that it cannot be corrected over the following weeks in a non competitive environment?
When it is competitive the coaches want to win, the kids naturally want to win and the majority of parents want to win and the weaker players get feck all game time which upsets the kids and leaves their parents frothing at the mouth.
I think blitzes are the best option at this age group and even at U-11 let them play a few games and have no semi finals or finals.
I see it with myself when my kids are at games if they are not getting much game time the blood does be starting to boil in me but i have never said anything to a coach as i know what it's like as i have done my time coaching also and got it from irate parents over the years.
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 31, 2023, 11:08:19 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
YES! It's a day out. Jesus Christ!
Although the older I have got the more I see that A LOT of people are not wise in the head.
We play non-competitive u9 leagues in Down. Which is right.
We enter non-competitive u9 blitzes too. Which is right.
But we also attend a handful of blitzes that aren't much different in concept to a Feile. You enter a division and you try to win it.
What on earth could possibly be wrong with a few competitive tournaments a year? What are you ao afraid of finding out, that it cannot be corrected over the following weeks in a non competitive environment?
I don't think anyone has an issue with competitive tournaments, provided the same approach of getting all the kids on the pitch is taken.
We've had a few tournament invites where it says a max panel of 10-12, for example. That means we have to leave the majority of kids behind. I don't personally like that and it also annoys parents at that age.
If take that same approach to tournaments as go-games, where everyone plays then its all good. The problem is most teams go with the approach of strongest side out every game, and so the team that's using all their players can get destroyed at that age level and that doesn't help anyone.
I realise I'm probably in the minority with that view though and I don't expect the tournament approach to change.
Some tournaments have that setup of allowing multiple teams streamed into A/B etc. Then play for the cup/shield/plate depending on how they get on in the group sections. This is much better and gives all the players a chance to compete at their own level.
The likes of that would cause more trouble than what it's worth in most clubs and i wouldn't like to be involved in selecting players for that !
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 31, 2023, 11:08:19 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
YES! It's a day out. Jesus Christ!
Although the older I have got the more I see that A LOT of people are not wise in the head.
We play non-competitive u9 leagues in Down. Which is right.
We enter non-competitive u9 blitzes too. Which is right.
But we also attend a handful of blitzes that aren't much different in concept to a Feile. You enter a division and you try to win it.
What on earth could possibly be wrong with a few competitive tournaments a year? What are you ao afraid of finding out, that it cannot be corrected over the following weeks in a non competitive environment?
I don't think anyone has an issue with competitive tournaments, provided the same approach of getting all the kids on the pitch is taken.
We've had a few tournament invites where it says a max panel of 10-12, for example. That means we have to leave the majority of kids behind. I don't personally like that and it also annoys parents at that age.
If take that same approach to tournaments as go-games, where everyone plays then its all good. The problem is most teams go with the approach of strongest side out every game, and so the team that's using all their players can get destroyed at that age level and that doesn't help anyone.
I realise I'm probably in the minority with that view though and I don't expect the tournament approach to change.
Some tournaments have that setup of allowing multiple teams streamed into A/B etc. Then play for the cup/shield/plate depending on how they get on in the group sections. This is much better and gives all the players a chance to compete at their own level.
But tbrick surely you can see the juxtaposition is what you're written here?
"I don't think anyone has an issue with competitive tournaments"
And
" provided the same approach of getting all the kids on the pitch is taken."
You can have one or the other, but you can't have both at the same time.
——-
People also tend to get confused and believe that when Go Games rules for solo and bounce are in place, it means it's non-competitive. I don't know why.
——-
As far as I'm concerned, as long as the host club makes it clear from the outset that they're hosting a competitive or non-competitive tournament, and the rules are designed to facilitate that policy, then let them at it. It's then up to the clubs to look at the structure and decide if they wish to attend. Don't blame the host club and other attendees for not doing things the way you like them.
Quote from: Cavan19 on January 31, 2023, 11:12:23 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
YES! It's a day out. Jesus Christ!
Although the older I have got the more I see that A LOT of people are not wise in the head.
We play non-competitive u9 leagues in Down. Which is right.
We enter non-competitive u9 blitzes too. Which is right.
But we also attend a handful of blitzes that aren't much different in concept to a Feile. You enter a division and you try to win it.
What on earth could possibly be wrong with a few competitive tournaments a year? What are you ao afraid of finding out, that it cannot be corrected over the following weeks in a non competitive environment?
When it is competitive the coaches want to win, the kids naturally want to win and the majority of parents want to win and the weaker players get feck all game time which upsets the kids and leaves their parents frothing at the mouth.
I think blitzes are the best option at this age group and even at U-11 let them play a few games and have no semi finals or finals.
I see it with myself when my kids are at games if they are not getting much game time the blood does be starting to boil in me but i have never said anything to a coach as i know what it's like as i have done my time coaching also and got it from irate parents over the years.
I coached U7 / 9 and 11 teams. All kids played all the time no matter their ability and I often took my own son off first or didn't start him. It often led to him pointing out that I didn't know what I was doing, I wasn't playing the best team, we were losing because of decisions I made. We won some games including a few tournaments and we lost plenty as well. But everyone played and everyone contributed.
I ref'd a few games in our own tournaments and you'd be surprised what gets past a police check.
Quote from: Cavan19 on January 31, 2023, 11:14:10 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 31, 2023, 11:08:19 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
YES! It's a day out. Jesus Christ!
Although the older I have got the more I see that A LOT of people are not wise in the head.
We play non-competitive u9 leagues in Down. Which is right.
We enter non-competitive u9 blitzes too. Which is right.
But we also attend a handful of blitzes that aren't much different in concept to a Feile. You enter a division and you try to win it.
What on earth could possibly be wrong with a few competitive tournaments a year? What are you ao afraid of finding out, that it cannot be corrected over the following weeks in a non competitive environment?
I don't think anyone has an issue with competitive tournaments, provided the same approach of getting all the kids on the pitch is taken.
We've had a few tournament invites where it says a max panel of 10-12, for example. That means we have to leave the majority of kids behind. I don't personally like that and it also annoys parents at that age.
If take that same approach to tournaments as go-games, where everyone plays then its all good. The problem is most teams go with the approach of strongest side out every game, and so the team that's using all their players can get destroyed at that age level and that doesn't help anyone.
I realise I'm probably in the minority with that view though and I don't expect the tournament approach to change.
Some tournaments have that setup of allowing multiple teams streamed into A/B etc. Then play for the cup/shield/plate depending on how they get on in the group sections. This is much better and gives all the players a chance to compete at their own level.
The likes of that would cause more trouble than what it's worth in most clubs and i wouldn't like to be involved in selecting players for that !
Yeah its a nightmare and I usually lose out when it comes to deciding whether or not to go to those tournaments.
When we go, we tend to take the older kids with the understanding that the following year the kids who missed out get to go then.
Not ideal either, but it's one way of doing it.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 11:23:18 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 31, 2023, 11:08:19 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
YES! It's a day out. Jesus Christ!
Although the older I have got the more I see that A LOT of people are not wise in the head.
We play non-competitive u9 leagues in Down. Which is right.
We enter non-competitive u9 blitzes too. Which is right.
But we also attend a handful of blitzes that aren't much different in concept to a Feile. You enter a division and you try to win it.
What on earth could possibly be wrong with a few competitive tournaments a year? What are you ao afraid of finding out, that it cannot be corrected over the following weeks in a non competitive environment?
I don't think anyone has an issue with competitive tournaments, provided the same approach of getting all the kids on the pitch is taken.
We've had a few tournament invites where it says a max panel of 10-12, for example. That means we have to leave the majority of kids behind. I don't personally like that and it also annoys parents at that age.
If take that same approach to tournaments as go-games, where everyone plays then its all good. The problem is most teams go with the approach of strongest side out every game, and so the team that's using all their players can get destroyed at that age level and that doesn't help anyone.
I realise I'm probably in the minority with that view though and I don't expect the tournament approach to change.
Some tournaments have that setup of allowing multiple teams streamed into A/B etc. Then play for the cup/shield/plate depending on how they get on in the group sections. This is much better and gives all the players a chance to compete at their own level.
But tbrick surely you can see the juxtaposition is what you're written here?
"I don't think anyone has an issue with competitive tournaments"
And
" provided the same approach of getting all the kids on the pitch is taken."
You can have one or the other, but you can't have both at the same time.
——-
People also tend to get confused and believe that when Go Games rules for solo and bounce are in place, it means it's non-competitive. I don't know why.
——-
As far as I'm concerned, as long as the host club makes it clear from the outset that they're hosting a competitive or non-competitive tournament, and the rules are designed to facilitate that policy, then let them at it. It's then up to the clubs to look at the structure and decide if they wish to attend. Don't blame the host club and other attendees for not doing things the way you like them.
I think you can, it just depends on your view on what "competitive" means at u9.
Is it my best u9 players against your best u9s? Or is it my u9 panel vs your u9 panel? I prefer panel v panel as it's better for the long term development of all players not just the few.
I've also seen it that even at that age, the few that get picked for tournaments start treating the others as being no good. And the "others" starting the believe that too then start to drift. That's very difficult to manage.
I'd rather lose more games at that age and keep more kids involved and interested.
The main issue is that when a lot of u9 coaches are going to these tournaments they lose sight of that and want to win at all costs.
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 31, 2023, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 11:23:18 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 31, 2023, 11:08:19 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 31, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 31, 2023, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 30, 2023, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 30, 2023, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2023, 07:42:50 PM
"She claims her husband, other parents and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the under-9 group."
Probably a dispute between play your best players and try to win versus everyone gets a turn.
At under 9, which is the right thing for a coach to do?
Should loud parents be able to over rule a coach?
I wonder what his approach was, best players on to win every game or give everyone a game even if it meant losing. I have seen Parents flip over both.
Surely, SURELY, in 2023, no one is going to an Under 9 tournament and as a coach playing your best players in order to win or as a parent expecting your coach to play your best players in order to win, surely?! This is coaching 101 in every single course I have ever done.
This is absolute madness by both parties.
Trailer a question. When clubs run a prestigious u9 tournament, with clubs from multiple provinces taking part - do you honestly believe the majority of teams drive those distances just to give everyone a game?
I'm all for non-competitive leagues and tournaments at u9 and u11. But (and I don't which tournament it was) if a team is driving 70 miles and past 100 clubs, it's for bigger reasons than a day out.
YES! It's a day out. Jesus Christ!
Although the older I have got the more I see that A LOT of people are not wise in the head.
We play non-competitive u9 leagues in Down. Which is right.
We enter non-competitive u9 blitzes too. Which is right.
But we also attend a handful of blitzes that aren't much different in concept to a Feile. You enter a division and you try to win it.
What on earth could possibly be wrong with a few competitive tournaments a year? What are you ao afraid of finding out, that it cannot be corrected over the following weeks in a non competitive environment?
I don't think anyone has an issue with competitive tournaments, provided the same approach of getting all the kids on the pitch is taken.
We've had a few tournament invites where it says a max panel of 10-12, for example. That means we have to leave the majority of kids behind. I don't personally like that and it also annoys parents at that age.
If take that same approach to tournaments as go-games, where everyone plays then its all good. The problem is most teams go with the approach of strongest side out every game, and so the team that's using all their players can get destroyed at that age level and that doesn't help anyone.
I realise I'm probably in the minority with that view though and I don't expect the tournament approach to change.
Some tournaments have that setup of allowing multiple teams streamed into A/B etc. Then play for the cup/shield/plate depending on how they get on in the group sections. This is much better and gives all the players a chance to compete at their own level.
But tbrick surely you can see the juxtaposition is what you're written here?
"I don't think anyone has an issue with competitive tournaments"
And
" provided the same approach of getting all the kids on the pitch is taken."
You can have one or the other, but you can't have both at the same time.
——-
People also tend to get confused and believe that when Go Games rules for solo and bounce are in place, it means it's non-competitive. I don't know why.
——-
As far as I'm concerned, as long as the host club makes it clear from the outset that they're hosting a competitive or non-competitive tournament, and the rules are designed to facilitate that policy, then let them at it. It's then up to the clubs to look at the structure and decide if they wish to attend. Don't blame the host club and other attendees for not doing things the way you like them.
I think you can, it just depends on your view on what "competitive" means at u9.
Is it my best u9 players against your best u9s? Or is it my u9 panel vs your u9 panel? I prefer panel v panel as it's better for the long term development of all players not just the few.
I've also seen it that even at that age, the few that get picked for tournaments start treating the others as being no good. And the "others" starting the believe that too then start to drift. That's very difficult to manage.
I'd rather lose more games at that age and keep more kids involved and interested.
The main issue is that when a lot of u9 coaches are going to these tournaments they lose sight of that and want to win at all costs.
I kinda dread being invited to some tournaments with limited numbers etc etc as it leads to filtering the kids and if say we are going to a 7 aside blitz and you can only take 9 then its names in a hat stuff.
I also make it abundantly clear to the coaches with the go-games age groups that as much as they play 7/9/11 aside hurling at U13/15/17 is 15 aside and we need to make sure we develop every kid with that in mind.
As for the Fingallians they do seem to be involved with the law quite a bit over the years!
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2023/02/02/row-over-alleged-banning-of-family-from-dublin-gaa-club-adjourned/
Row over alleged banning of family from Dublin GAA club adjourned
Judge says clarity is needed as to identity of correct defendants
Aodhan O'Faolain
Thu Feb 2 2023 - 13:55
A High Court action brought by a mother of four young children who are allegedly banned from participating in activities at their local GAA club has been adjourned for a week.
The action has been brought by Sinead O'Farrell, of Sandford Wood, Swords, Co Dublin, who on Monday was granted permission by the High Court to serve short notice of proceedings taken against the officials of Fingallians GAA Club.
She is seeking an injunction removing the alleged ban on behalf of her children Luca (10), Cai (8), Nia (6) and Alia (5) who, she claimed, along with her and their father, Jason, were told to stay away from the club.
When the matter returned to court before Ms Justice Eileen Roberts on Thursday, the family's lawyers said they had no contact from the defendants about the case until late on Wednesday evening when they were informed the people who should be sued are the club's trustees and not the defendant club officials.
READ MORE
Gunther's Millions: This dog has a mansion, a yacht and a personal chef. But something's not right
Gunther's Millions: This dog has a mansion, a yacht and a personal chef. But something's not right
Significant breakthroughs unlikely as Blinken visits Beijing
Significant breakthroughs unlikely as Blinken visits Beijing
Irish showdown shapes crucial EU climate goals legislation
Irish showdown shapes crucial EU climate goals legislation
'I barely recognise our 17-year-old son any more, either physically or emotionally'
'I barely recognise our 17-year-old son any more, either physically or emotionally'
Ms Justice Roberts was told the plaintiffs are happy they have sued the correct parties, and that lawyers for the trustees have no right of audience in the proceedings.
Counsel for the trustees told the court that his clients, who are not the same as the defendants, were the correct parties that should be sued, and that the dispute should go to arbitration rather than before a court of law.
The action is against club officials Colin Foley (club chairperson), Carl Jones (vice chairperson), Eoin Martin (club secretary), Denis McCarthy (juvenile chairperson), Sarah Nixon (children's officer) and Pat Ward (disciplinary chairperson).
The judge said clarification is needed as to the identity of the correct defendants. She adjourned the case for a week to allow instructions to be taken.
Previously, the court heard the O'Farrells are all paid-up members of Fingallians, Seatown West, Swords, and all of the children take part in both football and hurling.
Ms O'Farrell said a dispute arose following a football tournament for under-nine boys in Newry, Co Down, last year.
She claims her husband, other parents, and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who was the head coach of the club's under-nine boys' group.
Arising out of the fallout within the club from the tournament, she said Jason and other adults whose children were part of the group were fired as volunteer coaches of the under-nines in September.
She added that since the removal of those parents, there have been a series of communications and meetings involving club officials, the O'Farrells and the other parents. None of the issues between them have been resolved, she said.
Last month she claims that her husband and her family were told in one communication by a senior official at the club for the entire family to refrain from attending, until a meeting had taken place with her husband and the club's chairperson. Ms O'Farrell said the entire affair had caused her and Jason the most profound shock and distress.
The Farrell's solicitors wrote to the club seeking undertaking including that no steps be taken by Fingallians to prevent the O'Farrell children from accessing the club's facilities.
In a letter to the O'Farrell's solicitors, the club said their children are "entitled to the same access to the club's facilities and activities as all other club members in good standing", and it had "no intention to exclude them".
However, no undertakings were given and Ms O'Farrell has sought injunctions restraining the officials from interfering with the family's right to attend the club and participating with club teams or groups.
She also seeks declarations, including that a message sent by the club to her husband earlier this month purporting to ban the family from training is unwarranted, unjustified, unlawful and has no legal effect.
Quote from: LeoMc on January 31, 2023, 09:33:46 AM
A lot of Parents do not do coaching 101. If Mammy and Daddy drive 70 miles to see young Ross "who could be the next Brian Fenton, dontcha know" and the coach is "losing games they could have won, if only Ross was started instead of Reggie, well less said about his ability but..."
Ha ha! Sounds even better is a strong Dub accent.
What was the approach taken? Like if the coach had kids freezing on the line and not giving game time then you can understand the annoyance.
But, if the coach was giving everyone game time and not making it win at all costs then the parents would be in the wrong in my mind.
Maybe I am being dopey here but I don't see what the approach and initial issue is? And I know there is debate over travelling for a non-competitive angle but like it shouldn't end in the courts.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2023/0206/1354027-meath-gaa-apologise-to-down-after-offensive-tweet/
Meath GAA have apologised to their Down counterparts after an offensive tweet from their official account targetted the facilities in Ballycran.
Ronan Sheehan's side hosted Offaly in the Ards venue on Sunday and in the aftermath of their 0-21 to 0-18 loss, a tweet from the Meath account calling McKenna Park a "kip" and stating that inter-county games should not be played there.
Sheehan took to social media slamming the tweet, which was swiftly deleted, before later praising the Royal County for quickly addressing the issue.
Quote from: seafoid on February 06, 2023, 09:00:59 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2023/0206/1354027-meath-gaa-apologise-to-down-after-offensive-tweet/
Meath GAA have apologised to their Down counterparts after an offensive tweet from their official account targetted the facilities in Ballycran.
Ronan Sheehan's side hosted Offaly in the Ards venue on Sunday and in the aftermath of their 0-21 to 0-18 loss, a tweet from the Meath account calling McKenna Park a "kip" and stating that inter-county games should not be played there.
Sheehan took to social media slamming the tweet, which was swiftly deleted, before later praising the Royal County for quickly addressing the issue.
I saw that, cheeky hoor...
I bet they did lose an awful lot of sliotars at the top goals though.. ;D
Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2023, 09:08:24 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 06, 2023, 09:00:59 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2023/0206/1354027-meath-gaa-apologise-to-down-after-offensive-tweet/
Meath GAA have apologised to their Down counterparts after an offensive tweet from their official account targetted the facilities in Ballycran.
Ronan Sheehan's side hosted Offaly in the Ards venue on Sunday and in the aftermath of their 0-21 to 0-18 loss, a tweet from the Meath account calling McKenna Park a "kip" and stating that inter-county games should not be played there.
Sheehan took to social media slamming the tweet, which was swiftly deleted, before later praising the Royal County for quickly addressing the issue.
I saw that, cheeky hoor...
I bet they did lose an awful lot of sliotars at the top goals though.. ;D
Why were Meath commenting on the venue of a game between Down and Offaly?
Exactly. Very odd that one.
I think they may have got a new twitter admin. They may be getting another new one by the look of it ;D
Quote from: marty34 on February 06, 2023, 09:35:32 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2023, 09:08:24 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 06, 2023, 09:00:59 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2023/0206/1354027-meath-gaa-apologise-to-down-after-offensive-tweet/
Meath GAA have apologised to their Down counterparts after an offensive tweet from their official account targetted the facilities in Ballycran.
Ronan Sheehan's side hosted Offaly in the Ards venue on Sunday and in the aftermath of their 0-21 to 0-18 loss, a tweet from the Meath account calling McKenna Park a "kip" and stating that inter-county games should not be played there.
Sheehan took to social media slamming the tweet, which was swiftly deleted, before later praising the Royal County for quickly addressing the issue.
I saw that, cheeky hoor...
I bet they did lose an awful lot of sliotars at the top goals though.. ;D
Why were Meath commenting on the venue of a game between Down and Offaly?
Fúck knows as they're neither in NHL 2A, nor the Joe McDonagh.
I'd say the admin didn't realize they were still on the Meath account instead of a personal one or some other alias.
Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2023, 09:39:12 AM
Quote from: marty34 on February 06, 2023, 09:35:32 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2023, 09:08:24 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 06, 2023, 09:00:59 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2023/0206/1354027-meath-gaa-apologise-to-down-after-offensive-tweet/
Meath GAA have apologised to their Down counterparts after an offensive tweet from their official account targetted the facilities in Ballycran.
Ronan Sheehan's side hosted Offaly in the Ards venue on Sunday and in the aftermath of their 0-21 to 0-18 loss, a tweet from the Meath account calling McKenna Park a "kip" and stating that inter-county games should not be played there.
Sheehan took to social media slamming the tweet, which was swiftly deleted, before later praising the Royal County for quickly addressing the issue.
I saw that, cheeky hoor...
I bet they did lose an awful lot of sliotars at the top goals though.. ;D
Why were Meath commenting on the venue of a game between Down and Offaly?
Fúck knows as they're neither in NHL 2A, nor the Joe McDonagh.
Yeah, very strange indeed.
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/0209/1355699-fingallians/
Dublin GAA club denies that four young siblings were banned
Updated / Thursday, 9 Feb 2023 14:39
A Dublin GAA club has denied a claim that four siblings were banned from participating in the Dublin GAC's activities.
Micheál Ó Scanaill SC for several officials at the Fingallians GAA club told Mr Justice Brian O'Moore at the High Court that Sinead O'Farrell's children are entitled to take part in all relevant club activities, and it is not a case that they have been banned from doing so.
Ms O'Farrell, of Sandford Wood, Swords, Co Dublin, began proceedings late last month against several Fingallians' club officials seeking orders including an injunction removing the alleged ban on behalf of her children aged ten, eight, six and five.
Ms O'Farrell claimed that, along with their father Jason and herself, her children had been told to stay away from the club.
The action is against Fingallians club chairman Colin Foley, vice chairperson Carl Jones, club secretary Eoin Martin, juvenile chairperson Denis McCarthy, children's officer Sarah Nixon and disciplinary chairperson Pat Ward.
When the matter returned before Mr Justice O'Moore today, Mr Ó Scannail said there was no urgency to the claim as the O'Farrell children were not banned from the club, nor taking part in activities.
He said there was no evidence that they were banned, except for an assertion made by Ms O'Farrell and that the matter was not urgent.
He said from his clients' perspective several legal issues arise in the case, including if the action should be against the club's trustees, and not the named defendants.
Mr O Scannail said it is also his clients' case that the O'Farrells are bound by their membership of the GAA to have their claim go through an arbitration process through the GAA's Disputes Resolution Authority and not a court of law.
He added that if he was wrong on that point, it was their case that the dispute should be heard by a lower court than the High Court.
The O'Farrells reject the club's claims.
Richard Kean SC for the O'Farrells said that the O'Farrell children would not be before the court if they were allowed to fully participate in all of the club's activities with their own peer group.
He said that the proposed arbitration process is designed to deal with allegations that the GAA's rules have been breached, and disciplinary matters.
The O'Farrell children had neither broken the rules nor have they been disciplined, he said, adding that the injunction application should be heard as soon as possible.
Mr Justice O'Moore said that the case was an unusual one, where both sides were diametrically opposed to each other.
The judge added that he was making no criticism of counsel in the case but said that the application for the injunction should be heard as soon as possible.
The judge fixed the hearing of application, when all legal arguments can be advanced by the parties, for Friday, 17 February.
The matter is expected to take half a day to hear.
Previously the court heard that the O'Farrells are all paid-up members of Fingallians, Seatown West, Swords, and all of the children take part in both football and hurling.
In a sworn statement to the court Ms O'Farrell said that a dispute arose following a football tournament for U-9 boys in Newry, Co Down last year.
She claimed that her husband, other parents, and volunteer coaches were unhappy with the approach to the tournament taken by Richie Herity, who had been the head coach of the club's U-9 boys' group.
Arising out of the fallout within the club from that tournament, she said her husband, and other adults whose children were part of that group of boys, were fired as volunteer coaches of the U-9s in September.
She added that since those parents' removal there have been a series of communications and meetings involving club officials, the O'Farrells and the other parents have taken place, without any of the issues between them being resolved.
She said that her husband and her family were told in one communication by a senior club official last month, who asked the entire family to refrain from attending at the club, until a meeting had taken place with her husband and the club's chairperson.
Ms O'Farrell said the entire affair had caused her and her husband the most profound shock and distress.
The O'Farrell's solicitors wrote to the club seeking undertaking including that no steps be taken by Fingallians to prevent the O'Farrell children from accessing the club's facilities.
In a letter to the O'Farrell's solicitors, the club said that their children are "entitled to the same access to the club's facilities and activities as all other club members in good standing", and it had "no intention to exclude them."
However, no undertakings were given, and Ms O'Farrell commenced an action seeking injunctions restraining the officials from interfering with her family's right to attend the club and participating with club teams or groups.
She also seeks declarations, including that a message sent by the club to her husband earlier this month purporting to ban the family from training is unwarranted, unjustified, unlawful and has no legal effect.
WTF is going on with Karl Lacey and the Donegal Academy??!!
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/282649-282649?fbclid=IwAR3_dgtJ0nGb0hDQZ-QXBySMA4I0kvjBngG6LOkpHt64c8xXByFO0lLuvVY#ldynhp19x3n8a2y57hp
Not sure if posted elsewhere on the board but WTF!!!
https://twitter.com/ourgamehq/status/1624163310214995987?s=46&t=iecGij65wWLAgrw4jXoPRQ
Quote from: square_ball on February 10, 2023, 11:37:22 PM
Not sure if posted elsewhere on the board but WTF!!!
https://twitter.com/ourgamehq/status/1624163310214995987?s=46&t=iecGij65wWLAgrw4jXoPRQ
Surprising but not surprising at the same time
How he get away with that for so long?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 11, 2023, 12:00:56 AM
How he get away with that for so long?
And it's not as if he, or family, have an unblemished record when it comes to fraud
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 11, 2023, 12:02:54 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 11, 2023, 12:00:56 AM
How he get away with that for so long?
And it's not as if he, or family, have an unblemished record when it comes to fraud
Unrivalled, perhaps.
Quote from: armaghniac on February 11, 2023, 01:44:40 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 11, 2023, 12:02:54 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 11, 2023, 12:00:56 AM
How he get away with that for so long?
And it's not as if he, or family, have an unblemished record when it comes to fraud
Unrivalled, perhaps.
Far from his first rodeo in this regard. And never done by halves either.
Not as informed as the rest of you, any chance of a clue, what county is he from?
Would be deemed a current county player or one who played for his county a few years back?
One of KK greats. Retired a good while. If you were in a night club you might see him spinning the records, or listening to the radio he would play the tunes.... ;) ;) ;) ;)
Quote from: trailer on February 11, 2023, 11:54:04 AM
One of KK greats. Retired a good while. If you were in a night club you might see him spinning the records, or listening to the radio he would play the tunes.... ;) ;) ;) ;)
Without a care in the world!
Was the sister not done for the same thing?
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 11, 2023, 12:10:52 PM
Quote from: trailer on February 11, 2023, 11:54:04 AM
One of KK greats. Retired a good while. If you were in a night club you might see him spinning the records, or listening to the radio he would play the tunes.... ;) ;) ;) ;)
Without a care in the world!
More informed now than I was half an hour ago :)
Quote from: LC on February 11, 2023, 12:22:04 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 11, 2023, 12:10:52 PM
Quote from: trailer on February 11, 2023, 11:54:04 AM
One of KK greats. Retired a good while. If you were in a night club you might see him spinning the records, or listening to the radio he would play the tunes.... ;) ;) ;) ;)
Without a care in the world!
More informed now than I was half an hour ago :)
I knoe nothing about it but he's named in comments under that tweet
Another one for RTÉ investigates
Runs in the family it seems!
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2023, 12:31:35 PM
Another one for RTÉ investigates
The nickname 'the Dodger' with a whole new meaning
Funny you mention that, I thought the sister/ relative was up for similar a no. Of yrs bck.
She was yeah
He had previous too with Bank loans
Met a guy from Kilkenny on holidays in France a few years back, he was a football man actually and he really didn't have much time for the person mentioned above.
A total crook by the look of it
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 11, 2023, 12:13:48 PM
Was the sister not done for the same thing?
Was it not his former partner ?
Creditors yet to see funds after x firms collapse
Trade creditors from collapsed firms associated with hurling great x have yet to see any monies from the liquidation of...
Gordon Deegan
Wed Aug 29 2012 - 01:00
Trade creditors from collapsed firms associated with hurling great x have yet to see any monies from the liquidation of the companies.
In February of last year, x's contract-cleaning business x Enterprises Ltd along with his Alton Ltd and Dublin Janitorial Centre Ltd were all placed in liquidation with combined debts of €1.7 million.
Noel Murphy was named as liquidator to the three firms where the five-times All-Ireland winner with Kilkenny served as a director with his former partner and former panellist on RTÉ's Dragons' Den, Sarah Newman.
Now, in documents recording Mr Murphy's dealing relating to the companies' liquidation for the first year, they show that most of the money received by the firms has been spent on liquidation and legal fees with trade creditors yet to receive any money.
Quote from: seafoid on February 12, 2023, 09:57:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 11, 2023, 12:13:48 PM
Was the sister not done for the same thing?
Was it not his former partner ?
Creditors yet to see funds after x firms collapse
Trade creditors from collapsed firms associated with hurling great x have yet to see any monies from the liquidation of...
Gordon Deegan
Wed Aug 29 2012 - 01:00
Trade creditors from collapsed firms associated with hurling great x have yet to see any monies from the liquidation of the companies.
In February of last year, x's contract-cleaning business x Enterprises Ltd along with his Alton Ltd and Dublin Janitorial Centre Ltd were all placed in liquidation with combined debts of €1.7 million.
Noel Murphy was named as liquidator to the three firms where the five-times All-Ireland winner with Kilkenny served as a director with his former partner and former panellist on RTÉ's Dragons' Den, Sarah Newman.
Now, in documents recording Mr Murphy's dealing relating to the companies' liquidation for the first year, they show that most of the money received by the firms has been spent on liquidation and legal fees with trade creditors yet to receive any money.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/revealed-convicted-fraudster-catriona-careys-seasonal-spending-sprees-42193683.html
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 12, 2023, 10:07:22 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 12, 2023, 09:57:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 11, 2023, 12:13:48 PM
Was the sister not done for the same thing?
Was it not his former partner ?
Creditors yet to see funds after x firms collapse
Trade creditors from collapsed firms associated with hurling great x have yet to see any monies from the liquidation of...
Gordon Deegan
Wed Aug 29 2012 - 01:00
Trade creditors from collapsed firms associated with hurling great x have yet to see any monies from the liquidation of the companies.
In February of last year, x's contract-cleaning business x Enterprises Ltd along with his Alton Ltd and Dublin Janitorial Centre Ltd were all placed in liquidation with combined debts of €1.7 million.
Noel Murphy was named as liquidator to the three firms where the five-times All-Ireland winner with Kilkenny served as a director with his former partner and former panellist on RTÉ's Dragons' Den, Sarah Newman.
Now, in documents recording Mr Murphy's dealing relating to the companies' liquidation for the first year, they show that most of the money received by the firms has been spent on liquidation and legal fees with trade creditors yet to receive any money.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/revealed-convicted-fraudster-catriona-careys-seasonal-spending-sprees-42193683.html
GRMA
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/02/13/gaa-star-under-investigation-was-hit-with-debt-judgment/
A GAA star, who is under investigation for alleged fraud and deception, was subjected to a debt judgment for tens of thousands of euro secured by a businessman who gave him money.
The judgment is believed to be just one debt owed by the former player to friends, acquaintances and business associates who gave him money ranging from four-figure sums to more significant amounts.
The suspect is being investigated by the Garda with detectives from the National Economic Crime Bureau interviewing and taking statements from witnesses who have alleged that the individual sought the money on claims he needed money for cancer treatment abroad.
The total sums involved are estimated to run to a significant six-figure sum
Quote from: seafoid on February 13, 2023, 04:27:55 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/02/13/gaa-star-under-investigation-was-hit-with-debt-judgment/
A GAA star, who is under investigation for alleged fraud and deception, was subjected to a debt judgment for tens of thousands of euro secured by a businessman who gave him money.
The judgment is believed to be just one debt owed by the former player to friends, acquaintances and business associates who gave him money ranging from four-figure sums to more significant amounts.
The suspect is being investigated by the Garda with detectives from the National Economic Crime Bureau interviewing and taking statements from witnesses who have alleged that the individual sought the money on claims he needed money for cancer treatment abroad.
The total sums involved are estimated to run to a significant six-figure sum
I heard who it was, as I'm sure others here have too. Not in a million years am I naming them until its on TV though!
This getting money of people for so called Cancer treatment? If so, how low can you go.
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/02/14/gaa-star-golfing-in-ireland-when-claiming-to-be-receiving-cancer-care-in-us/
GAA star 'golfing' in Ireland when claiming to be receiving cancer care in US
Businessman gave well-known figure at centre of fraud inquiry a six-figure sum after being told of alleged illness
Expand
The former GAA player is being investigated for alleged fraud and deception by detectives from the Garda National Economic Crime Bureau. File photograph: Niall Carson/PA Wire
Simon Carswell
Tue Feb 14 2023 - 05:00
A businessman owed money by a GAA star, who is now under investigation for fraud, has claimed that the sportsman was playing golf at a time he said he was overseas receiving cancer treatment.
The multimillionaire businessman secured a debt judgment against the retired player for tens of thousands of euro after lending the sports star a six-figure sum at a time when he had told him that he was to be undergoing treatment in the US.
The entrepreneur is one of several friends, acquaintances and business associates of the former player who are owed debts by him and who have made statements to the Garda. The former GAA player is being investigated for alleged fraud and deception by detectives from the Garda National Economic Crime Bureau.
Detailed statement
A number of people who gave him money believe he did not have cancer and have made complaints to the Garda claiming that they were deceived into giving him money.
The businessman, who has made a detailed statement to the Garda about his dealings with the sports star, has declined to comment. Efforts to obtain a response from the former GAA player, who is not being named for legal reasons, have proven unsuccessful. An Garda Síochána has made no comment on the matter.
Some of the alleged payments to the sportsman date back to 2021. He sought financial support from the businessman, telling him that he was due to be paid compensation from a medical negligence claim and that he needed to clear a debt to one of the country's main banks and was undergoing cancer treatment overseas.
The businessman later discovered that the sports star was playing golf at a well-known Irish course at a time when he told him he would be undergoing treatment in Seattle.
Five-figure judgment
Unable to recover his money, the businessman, who enjoyed a windfall from the sale of a business several years ago, turned to the courts and registered a five-figure judgment against the sports star last year.
The judgment was lower than the total debt as he wanted to make a symbolic statement of securing a debt judgment against him while avoiding higher legal costs by pursuing the full amount. The sports star repaid a four-figure sum, a fraction of the overall amount owing, after the judgment.
Gardaí were said to have been alerted after bank staff became suspicious about the sportsman's financial dealings. Detectives have made contact with individuals after tracing money transfers.
One couple paid the sports star €5,000 after he told them that he was undergoing treatment for multiple myeloma, the same cancer for which the wife in the couple was receiving treatment. The couple believes they were targeted and groomed and that his claims that he was suffering from cancer were a ruse playing on their emotions to secure money. The woman repeatedly sought repayment, which was eventually received after she threatened to tell her story in the media.
Aidan nugent pretty scathing on twitter about the failure from central council to pay any travelling expenses to any county players from 1Nov
For an organisation that made €19m profit and to not pay travel for over 3 months
It's pretty poor given a fair few are students
Quote from: naka on February 14, 2023, 08:19:53 AM
Aidan nugent pretty scathing on twitter about the failure from central council to pay any travelling expenses to any county players from 1Nov
For an organisation that made €19m profit and to not pay travel for over 3 months
It's pretty poor given a fair few are students
County players are out a clean fortune. Least the GAA could do is to honour what was agreed and reimburse them!
Quote from: seafoid on February 13, 2023, 04:27:55 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/02/13/gaa-star-under-investigation-was-hit-with-debt-judgment/
A GAA star, who is under investigation for alleged fraud and deception, was subjected to a debt judgment for tens of thousands of euro secured by a businessman who gave him money.
The judgment is believed to be just one debt owed by the former player to friends, acquaintances and business associates who gave him money ranging from four-figure sums to more significant amounts.
The suspect is being investigated by the Garda with detectives from the National Economic Crime Bureau interviewing and taking statements from witnesses who have alleged that the individual sought the money on claims he needed money for cancer treatment abroad.
The total sums involved are estimated to run to a significant six-figure sum
He always struck me as a fellow who had an expensive lifestyle and expensive tastes.
The Dragons Den lady lost most of her fortune when they were together.
Quote from: Dag Dog on February 14, 2023, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 13, 2023, 04:27:55 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/02/13/gaa-star-under-investigation-was-hit-with-debt-judgment/
A GAA star, who is under investigation for alleged fraud and deception, was subjected to a debt judgment for tens of thousands of euro secured by a businessman who gave him money.
The judgment is believed to be just one debt owed by the former player to friends, acquaintances and business associates who gave him money ranging from four-figure sums to more significant amounts.
The suspect is being investigated by the Garda with detectives from the National Economic Crime Bureau interviewing and taking statements from witnesses who have alleged that the individual sought the money on claims he needed money for cancer treatment abroad.
The total sums involved are estimated to run to a significant six-figure sum
He always struck me as a fellow who had an expensive lifestyle and expensive tastes.
The Dragons Den lady lost most of her fortune when they were together.
That Dragon's Den show had some bluffers on it.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 13, 2023, 07:32:22 PM
This getting money of people for so called Cancer treatment? If so, how low can you go.
Pathetic low life
He must have some sort of personallity disorder like Walter Mitty had
Quote from: seafoid on February 14, 2023, 02:02:56 PM
He must have some sort of personallity disorder like Walter Mitty had
There is no sense to it, this sort of thing and that practised by a female with a similar name were bound to be found out, so any benefit would be short lived.
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2023/02/14/news/three_footballers_sue_north_belfast_gaa_club_st_enda_s_claiming_personal_injury_loss_and_damage_-3060193/?param=ds441rif44T
Quote from: trailer on February 14, 2023, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on February 14, 2023, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 13, 2023, 04:27:55 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/02/13/gaa-star-under-investigation-was-hit-with-debt-judgment/
A GAA star, who is under investigation for alleged fraud and deception, was subjected to a debt judgment for tens of thousands of euro secured by a businessman who gave him money.
The judgment is believed to be just one debt owed by the former player to friends, acquaintances and business associates who gave him money ranging from four-figure sums to more significant amounts.
The suspect is being investigated by the Garda with detectives from the National Economic Crime Bureau interviewing and taking statements from witnesses who have alleged that the individual sought the money on claims he needed money for cancer treatment abroad.
The total sums involved are estimated to run to a significant six-figure sum
He always struck me as a fellow who had an expensive lifestyle and expensive tastes.
The Dragons Den lady lost most of her fortune when they were together.
That Dragon's Den show had some bluffers on it.
Was there not a Tyrone judge on it on one of the earlier series?
Quote from: pbat on February 14, 2023, 08:40:10 PM
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2023/02/14/news/three_footballers_sue_north_belfast_gaa_club_st_enda_s_claiming_personal_injury_loss_and_damage_-3060193/?param=ds441rif44T
No shock that this is happening in Belfast
Quote from: LC on February 15, 2023, 08:00:52 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 14, 2023, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on February 14, 2023, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 13, 2023, 04:27:55 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/02/13/gaa-star-under-investigation-was-hit-with-debt-judgment/
A GAA star, who is under investigation for alleged fraud and deception, was subjected to a debt judgment for tens of thousands of euro secured by a businessman who gave him money.
The judgment is believed to be just one debt owed by the former player to friends, acquaintances and business associates who gave him money ranging from four-figure sums to more significant amounts.
The suspect is being investigated by the Garda with detectives from the National Economic Crime Bureau interviewing and taking statements from witnesses who have alleged that the individual sought the money on claims he needed money for cancer treatment abroad.
The total sums involved are estimated to run to a significant six-figure sum
He always struck me as a fellow who had an expensive lifestyle and expensive tastes.
The Dragons Den lady lost most of her fortune when they were together.
That Dragon's Den show had some bluffers on it.
Was there not a Tyrone judge on it on one of the earlier series?
She went bust as well!!
Quote from: screenexile on February 15, 2023, 10:35:02 PM
Quote from: LC on February 15, 2023, 08:00:52 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 14, 2023, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on February 14, 2023, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 13, 2023, 04:27:55 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/02/13/gaa-star-under-investigation-was-hit-with-debt-judgment/
A GAA star, who is under investigation for alleged fraud and deception, was subjected to a debt judgment for tens of thousands of euro secured by a businessman who gave him money.
The judgment is believed to be just one debt owed by the former player to friends, acquaintances and business associates who gave him money ranging from four-figure sums to more significant amounts.
The suspect is being investigated by the Garda with detectives from the National Economic Crime Bureau interviewing and taking statements from witnesses who have alleged that the individual sought the money on claims he needed money for cancer treatment abroad.
The total sums involved are estimated to run to a significant six-figure sum
He always struck me as a fellow who had an expensive lifestyle and expensive tastes.
The Dragons Den lady lost most of her fortune when they were together.
That Dragon's Den show had some bluffers on it.
Was there not a Tyrone judge on it on one of the earlier series?
She went bust as well!!
Absolute clowns on it. About 5 of them ran for President ffs. Talk about having zero self awareness!
Quote from: screenexile on February 15, 2023, 10:35:02 PM
Quote from: LC on February 15, 2023, 08:00:52 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 14, 2023, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on February 14, 2023, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 13, 2023, 04:27:55 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/02/13/gaa-star-under-investigation-was-hit-with-debt-judgment/
A GAA star, who is under investigation for alleged fraud and deception, was subjected to a debt judgment for tens of thousands of euro secured by a businessman who gave him money.
The judgment is believed to be just one debt owed by the former player to friends, acquaintances and business associates who gave him money ranging from four-figure sums to more significant amounts.
The suspect is being investigated by the Garda with detectives from the National Economic Crime Bureau interviewing and taking statements from witnesses who have alleged that the individual sought the money on claims he needed money for cancer treatment abroad.
The total sums involved are estimated to run to a significant six-figure sum
He always struck me as a fellow who had an expensive lifestyle and expensive tastes.
The Dragons Den lady lost most of her fortune when they were together.
That Dragon's Den show had some bluffers on it.
Was there not a Tyrone judge on it on one of the earlier series?
She went bust as well!!
She was originally from Ardboe. I didn't realise that pharmacies could lose so much money.
Quote from: clarshack on February 16, 2023, 10:11:04 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 15, 2023, 10:35:02 PM
Quote from: LC on February 15, 2023, 08:00:52 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 14, 2023, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on February 14, 2023, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 13, 2023, 04:27:55 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/02/13/gaa-star-under-investigation-was-hit-with-debt-judgment/
A GAA star, who is under investigation for alleged fraud and deception, was subjected to a debt judgment for tens of thousands of euro secured by a businessman who gave him money.
The judgment is believed to be just one debt owed by the former player to friends, acquaintances and business associates who gave him money ranging from four-figure sums to more significant amounts.
The suspect is being investigated by the Garda with detectives from the National Economic Crime Bureau interviewing and taking statements from witnesses who have alleged that the individual sought the money on claims he needed money for cancer treatment abroad.
The total sums involved are estimated to run to a significant six-figure sum
He always struck me as a fellow who had an expensive lifestyle and expensive tastes.
The Dragons Den lady lost most of her fortune when they were together.
That Dragon's Den show had some bluffers on it.
Was there not a Tyrone judge on it on one of the earlier series?
She went bust as well!!
She was originally from Ardboe. I didn't realise that pharmacies could lose so much money.
Only Pharmacy to go bust in a Pandemic!
https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0217/1357356-dj-carey-debt/
The Pharmacies were making money but they got greedy and bought a couple of big shops for too much money then got their credit pulled by their biggest supplier and so had to be rescued then!!
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 17, 2023, 09:53:01 PM
https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0217/1357356-dj-carey-debt/
The way this is heading he is going to end up making the sister look like a saint.
how did a gaa man end up with millions of pounds
He didn't end up with millions of pounds, he borrowed millions of euro and ended up with feck all.
That said, plenty of GAA men, and posters here, are millionaires.
Quote from: armaghniac on February 19, 2023, 10:28:15 AM
He didn't end up with millions of pounds, he borrowed millions of euro and ended up with feck all.
That said, plenty of GAA men, and posters here, are millionaires.
Maybe but the point is DJ wouldn't have gotten away with what he got away with if he wasn't a hurler. AIB don't write off millions for boxers or soccer players
That's nonsense. He has massive profile. If former high profile Irish soccer players did this (not Loi but international) or likely rugby players too then you would imagine the same would happen.
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2023, 05:00:09 PM
That's nonsense. He has massive profile. If former high profile Irish soccer players did this (not Loi but international) or likely rugby players too then you would imagine the same would happen.
And have they?
A group of Munster rugby players got bank write downs. Some of the team that won 2 Euro Cups lost a crazy amount of money from bad investments.
DJ got the write down because he is a famous person. Not because he's a hurler! Also no doubt he told the bank a load of lies.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 19, 2023, 05:38:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2023, 05:00:09 PM
That's nonsense. He has massive profile. If former high profile Irish soccer players did this (not Loi but international) or likely rugby players too then you would imagine the same would happen.
And have they?
Exactly hound. How you correlate this kind of thin to Gaa wtf is beyond me.
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/gaa-star-at-centre-of-fraud-probe-in-mental-health-facility-after-attempting-suicide-family-say/732565626.html
Quote from: screenexile on February 19, 2023, 06:03:01 PM
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/gaa-star-at-centre-of-fraud-probe-in-mental-health-facility-after-attempting-suicide-family-say/732565626.html
Sad. Such a fall from grace.
Quote from: Hound on February 19, 2023, 05:49:55 PM
A group of Munster rugby players got bank write downs. Some of the team that won 2 Euro Cups lost a crazy amount of money from bad investments.
DJ got the write down because he is a famous person. Not because he's a hurler! Also no doubt he told the bank a load of lies.
I will make a wager to charity of chouce that if we do ever find out the name of who made this decision that they are a prominent member of the GAA. AIB is notorious for sponsor jobs.
Like it or not this is being reported as a how Ireland works story, and this is the nice part of the saga. It's going to get nastier.
Wasn't there a whole hullabaloo as well with Neil Lennon and €3million but he got off the hook cause the bank lost important documents?
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 19, 2023, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: Hound on February 19, 2023, 05:49:55 PM
A group of Munster rugby players got bank write downs. Some of the team that won 2 Euro Cups lost a crazy amount of money from bad investments.
DJ got the write down because he is a famous person. Not because he's a hurler! Also no doubt he told the bank a load of lies.
I will make a wager to charity of chouce that if we do ever find out the name of who made this decision that they are a prominent member of the GAA. AIB is notorious for sponsor jobs.
Like it or not this is being reported as a how Ireland works story, and this is the nice part of the saga. It's going to get nastier.
The vox pops on the debt writedown are not good.
And sure you know yourself. In the Kilkenny branch and it's someone that won 5 all Irelands.
If it was in the Dundalk branch for the same amount of money for someone who won 5 League of Ireland titles the answer would be no.
Quote from: clarshack on February 19, 2023, 11:23:52 PM
Wasn't there a whole hullabaloo as well with Neil Lennon and €3million but he got off the hook cause the bank lost important documents?
Think he reached a settlement.
These writedowns happen when the person has little or no means to repay.
If Carey was repaying the debt at €1,000 a month, it would take him 750 years to reach €9 million.
The bigger question is how did he get so much credit in the first place?
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 20, 2023, 10:31:55 AM
These writedowns happen when the person has little or no means to repay.
If Carey was repaying the debt at €1,000 a month, it would take him 750 years to reach €9 million.
The bigger question is how did he get so much credit in the first place?
20,000 people have unrepayable mortgage debts. He wasn't alone.
The banks were all competing with one another and risk management was absent .
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 19, 2023, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: Hound on February 19, 2023, 05:49:55 PM
A group of Munster rugby players got bank write downs. Some of the team that won 2 Euro Cups lost a crazy amount of money from bad investments.
DJ got the write down because he is a famous person. Not because he's a hurler! Also no doubt he told the bank a load of lies.
I will make a wager to charity of chouce that if we do ever find out the name of who made this decision that they are a prominent member of the GAA. AIB is notorious for sponsor jobs.
Like it or not this is being reported as a how Ireland works story, and this is the nice part of the saga. It's going to get nastier.
Not a concern for the GAA tho. If a bank employee (GAA minded or not) got led on by a big GAA star, that's on the bank. Nothing to do with the GAA as an organisation other than a sad story for such a fantastic player.
If you owe the Bank €1,000 it's your problem.
If you owe the Bank €1,000,000 it's their problem.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 20, 2023, 10:31:55 AM
These writedowns happen when the person has little or no means to repay.
If Carey was repaying the debt at €1,000 a month, it would take him 750 years to reach €9 million.
The bigger question is how did he get so much credit in the first place?
I think that is the question. I'd say his profile was reason he got so much, which in itself calls into question AIBs credit underwriting standards.. if the man is broke, no other option really then W/O.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 20, 2023, 10:31:55 AM
These writedowns happen when the person has little or no means to repay.
If Carey was repaying the debt at €1,000 a month, it would take him 750 years to reach €9 million.
The bigger question is how did he get so much credit in the first place?
Ach sure its himself, hes a good GAA man, he'll be good for it.
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/02/19/denis-obrien-provides-gardai-with-extensive-details-of-gaa-stars-alleged-fraud/
Denis O'Brien has provided gardaí with extensive information on a former GAA star under investigation for widespread fraud.
The sportsman made a number of approaches to the businessman who agreed to help him.
He allegedly requested large amounts of cash in the form of payments and loans from the billionaire, claiming he needed it to fund his cancer treatment. As well as handing over large sums of cash, Mr O'Brien also agreed to let the man use some of his properties, The Irish Times understands.
Quote from: seafoid on February 19, 2023, 11:28:05 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 19, 2023, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: Hound on February 19, 2023, 05:49:55 PM
A group of Munster rugby players got bank write downs. Some of the team that won 2 Euro Cups lost a crazy amount of money from bad investments.
DJ got the write down because he is a famous person. Not because he's a hurler! Also no doubt he told the bank a load of lies.
I will make a wager to charity of chouce that if we do ever find out the name of who made this decision that they are a prominent member of the GAA. AIB is notorious for sponsor jobs.
Like it or not this is being reported as a how Ireland works story, and this is the nice part of the saga. It's going to get nastier.
The vox pops on the debt writedown are not good.
And sure you know yourself. In the Kilkenny branch and it's someone that won 5 all Irelands.
If it was in the Dundalk branch for the same amount of money for someone who won 5 League of Ireland titles the answer would be no.
Well these 2 have no all Ireland medals and i dont think went to the Kilkenny branch ?
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/mcnamara-lowe-2-9m-debt-write-off-shows-merits-of-insolvency-regime-1.4190699
Quote from: fearbrags on February 20, 2023, 05:44:02 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 19, 2023, 11:28:05 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 19, 2023, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: Hound on February 19, 2023, 05:49:55 PM
A group of Munster rugby players got bank write downs. Some of the team that won 2 Euro Cups lost a crazy amount of money from bad investments.
DJ got the write down because he is a famous person. Not because he's a hurler! Also no doubt he told the bank a load of lies.
I will make a wager to charity of chouce that if we do ever find out the name of who made this decision that they are a prominent member of the GAA. AIB is notorious for sponsor jobs.
Like it or not this is being reported as a how Ireland works story, and this is the nice part of the saga. It's going to get nastier.
The vox pops on the debt writedown are not good.
And sure you know yourself. In the Kilkenny branch and it's someone that won 5 all Irelands.
If it was in the Dundalk branch for the same amount of money for someone who won 5 League of Ireland titles the answer would be no.
Well these 2 have no all Ireland medals and i dont think went to the Kilkenny branch ?
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/mcnamara-lowe-2-9m-debt-write-off-shows-merits-of-insolvency-regime-1.4190699
Sure it even happened in the Carlow branch
Quote from: seafoid on February 20, 2023, 06:07:23 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on February 20, 2023, 05:44:02 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 19, 2023, 11:28:05 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 19, 2023, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: Hound on February 19, 2023, 05:49:55 PM
A group of Munster rugby players got bank write downs. Some of the team that won 2 Euro Cups lost a crazy amount of money from bad investments.
DJ got the write down because he is a famous person. Not because he's a hurler! Also no doubt he told the bank a load of lies.
I will make a wager to charity of chouce that if we do ever find out the name of who made this decision that they are a prominent member of the GAA. AIB is notorious for sponsor jobs.
Like it or not this is being reported as a how Ireland works story, and this is the nice part of the saga. It's going to get nastier.
The vox pops on the debt writedown are not good.
And sure you know yourself. In the Kilkenny branch and it's someone that won 5 all Irelands.
If it was in the Dundalk branch for the same amount of money for someone who won 5 League of Ireland titles the answer would be no.
Well these 2 have no all Ireland medals and i dont think went to the Kilkenny branch ?
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/mcnamara-lowe-2-9m-debt-write-off-shows-merits-of-insolvency-regime-1.4190699
Sure it even happened in the Carlow branch
But hadnt All Irelands or League Of Ireland medals ;) Maybe it is Who you know ?
Funny This Roscommon Man did have An All Ireland Medal and they as scarce as hen's teeth In Ros .
https://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/a-man-called-danger-26572747.html
:D ;D
Some man for one man.
Typical Elphin chancer.
Quote from: Rossfan on February 20, 2023, 08:43:50 PM
:D ;D
Some man for one man.
Typical Elphin chancer.
Funny thing The only I time I personally appeared on RTE (in the back ground) was on a Jim Fahy report about ""a Robbery of a Card Game"" in rural Ros That ""the danger"" Participated in (the Card game and perhaps in the Robbery) :)
Ofter heard that tale....
Seems he lost a lot in a big poker session.
The big winner on the night was forced off the road on his way home and relieved of his loot.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/02/19/transgender-players-given-green-light-by-ladies-gaelic-football-association/
County dream is back on lads, or should I say ladies
Jesus
Quote from: 03,05,08 on February 21, 2023, 10:17:26 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/02/19/transgender-players-given-green-light-by-ladies-gaelic-football-association/
County dream is back on lads, or should I say ladies
This is what they really meant when they said they were amalgamating the different associations
A remarkably bad decision.
It will only take one "trans" player of above average ability to make a mockery of the sport. Just one.
Quote from: thewobbler on February 21, 2023, 09:02:33 PM
A remarkably bad decision.
It will only take one "trans" player of above average ability to make a mockery of the sport. Just one.
A full forward . Doesn't even have to be good.
The woke brigade at it again.
I see a Galway girl became the first lady to convert a 45, shouldn't complain, could only do it 2/3 times and I had tree trunk legs.Letting a big man / girl, (this could get messy here) play sports on the same field will lead to someone getting injured. I see some lady powerlifters in the gym (nation level) they be 140kg max squat, same level for a man though heavier body weight is 260-300kg. Simply put men are heavier, bigger boned, more muscle mass, stronger than ladies and should not be on a sporting field where physical contact occurs.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 21, 2023, 11:38:16 PM
I see a Galway girl became the first lady to convert a 45, shouldn't complain, could only do it 2/3 times and I had tree trunk legs.Letting a big man / girl, (this could get messy here) play sports on the same field will lead to someone getting injured. I see some lady powerlifters in the gym (nation level) they be 140kg max squat, same level for a man though heavier body weight is 260-300kg. Simply put men are heavier, bigger boned, more muscle mass, stronger than ladies and should not be on a sporting field where physical contact occurs.
Most average club players could do that without a whole pile of training you'd imagine
It's heavy enough, you be puffed out badly doing 10 reps. most club players cut off at 160/70kg, you need to be abit heavier weight wise to lift 180 - 240kg, after that you at powerlifting level, where if u don't know what u doing, u could ruin uself.
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 20, 2023, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 20, 2023, 10:31:55 AM
These writedowns happen when the person has little or no means to repay.
If Carey was repaying the debt at €1,000 a month, it would take him 750 years to reach €9 million.
The bigger question is how did he get so much credit in the first place?
I think that is the question. I'd say his profile was reason he got so much, which in itself calls into question AIBs credit underwriting standards.. if the man is broke, no other option really then W/O.
I see more details have come out.
DJ got the loans totaling 9.5m to buy a few houses on the K Club and Mt Juliet (either 3 or 4). This was at the height of the Celtic Tiger in 2005-2008.
This was at a time when banks were giving money to anybody who wanted it (even sending letters offering pre-approved loans to those who didn't ask for it).
DJ had no real means to service the loan, other than by renting the houses out. But he and the bank were probably presuming he'd sell up for 15m or more in a few years, and they'd all be on the pigs back.
But then the crash happened. DJ completely underwater. Banks then in panic mode. So they have choice where the force the person into bankruptcy (which usually doesn't give anyone a good answer) or they come to a settlement, and in DJs case he had to give them 60k cash, and sell all the houses and give that money to AIB (which came to 1.8m) and an agreement that that if he came into money in the next 5 years he hand to hand it over to the bank. So overall that's possibly slightly better result for the bank than forcing him to go through bankruptcy and certainly no worse.
And the very same thing happened to many property investors who got in at the wrong time.
So it's not like DJ walked away with 9m of AIB's cash. The people who benefited were the sellers in 2005-2008 and the buyers in 2014. The bank were more at fault than DJ.
Of course this doesn't take away from the fact that he seems to be awful human being from the other stories all week where he's been asking for money from people far and wide to fund treatment for seemingly phantom illnesses.
What a mess for an iconic hurler of his generation and beyond..
Which makes a mockery of a time when asking the bank for a car loan of 2 grand years ago one time and being put through the mill over it, a joke considering we both were working and nothing outstanding!!
Quote from: Hound on February 22, 2023, 08:14:57 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 20, 2023, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 20, 2023, 10:31:55 AM
These writedowns happen when the person has little or no means to repay.
If Carey was repaying the debt at €1,000 a month, it would take him 750 years to reach €9 million.
The bigger question is how did he get so much credit in the first place?
I think that is the question. I'd say his profile was reason he got so much, which in itself calls into question AIBs credit underwriting standards.. if the man is broke, no other option really then W/O.
I see more details have come out.
DJ got the loans totaling 9.5m to buy a few houses on the K Club and Mt Juliet (either 3 or 4). This was at the height of the Celtic Tiger in 2005-2008.
This was at a time when banks were giving money to anybody who wanted it (even sending letters offering pre-approved loans to those who didn't ask for it).
DJ had no real means to service the loan, other than by renting the houses out. But he and the bank were probably presuming he'd sell up for 15m or more in a few years, and they'd all be on the pigs back.
But then the crash happened. DJ completely underwater. Banks then in panic mode. So they have choice where the force the person into bankruptcy (which usually doesn't give anyone a good answer) or they come to a settlement, and in DJs case he had to give them 60k cash, and sell all the houses and give that money to AIB (which came to 1.8m) and an agreement that that if he came into money in the next 5 years he hand to hand it over to the bank. So overall that's possibly slightly better result for the bank than forcing him to go through bankruptcy and certainly no worse.
And the very same thing happened to many property investors who got in at the wrong time.
So it's not like DJ walked away with 9m of AIB's cash. The people who benefited were the sellers in 2005-2008 and the buyers in 2014. The bank were more at fault than DJ.
Of course this doesn't take away from the fact that he seems to be awful human being from the other stories all week where he's been asking for money from people far and wide to fund treatment for seemingly phantom illnesses.
He didn't aim small either, Denis O'Brien was one of his "clients" allegedly.
Quote from: Hound on February 22, 2023, 08:14:57 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 20, 2023, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 20, 2023, 10:31:55 AM
These writedowns happen when the person has little or no means to repay.
If Carey was repaying the debt at €1,000 a month, it would take him 750 years to reach €9 million.
The bigger question is how did he get so much credit in the first place?
I think that is the question. I'd say his profile was reason he got so much, which in itself calls into question AIBs credit underwriting standards.. if the man is broke, no other option really then W/O.
I see more details have come out.
DJ got the loans totaling 9.5m to buy a few houses on the K Club and Mt Juliet (either 3 or 4). This was at the height of the Celtic Tiger in 2005-2008.
This was at a time when banks were giving money to anybody who wanted it (even sending letters offering pre-approved loans to those who didn't ask for it).
DJ had no real means to service the loan, other than by renting the houses out. But he and the bank were probably presuming he'd sell up for 15m or more in a few years, and they'd all be on the pigs back.
But then the crash happened. DJ completely underwater. Banks then in panic mode. So they have choice where the force the person into bankruptcy (which usually doesn't give anyone a good answer) or they come to a settlement, and in DJs case he had to give them 60k cash, and sell all the houses and give that money to AIB (which came to 1.8m) and an agreement that that if he came into money in the next 5 years he hand to hand it over to the bank. So overall that's possibly slightly better result for the bank than forcing him to go through bankruptcy and certainly no worse.
And the very same thing happened to many property investors who got in at the wrong time.
So it's not like DJ walked away with 9m of AIB's cash. The people who benefited were the sellers in 2005-2008 and the buyers in 2014. The bank were more at fault than DJ.
Of course this doesn't take away from the fact that he seems to be awful human being from the other stories all week where he's been asking for money from people far and wide to fund treatment for seemingly phantom illnesses.
Bt that's not really the argument. He sold the properties, gave them 60k and that was that. There is a step in the middle before bankruptcy that is a judgement against him to keep paying them. That's what happens to the plebs
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 22, 2023, 12:38:55 PM
Bt that's not really the argument. He sold the properties, gave them 60k and that was that. There is a step in the middle before bankruptcy that is a judgement against him to keep paying them. That's what happens to the plebs
I have to say that recent revelations, as discussed by Hound, suggests that he gave AIB the properties and €60k. Still a big writedown, but a big writedown of the difference between the property value and the loan, not the total loan one third of which was repaid by the property sale.
Probably not totally different from other speculators at that time. That said the cancer thing is a whole other kettle of fish.
https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2023/0221/1358055-dj-carey-settlement/
Quote from: Hound on February 22, 2023, 08:14:57 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 20, 2023, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 20, 2023, 10:31:55 AM
These writedowns happen when the person has little or no means to repay.
If Carey was repaying the debt at €1,000 a month, it would take him 750 years to reach €9 million.
The bigger question is how did he get so much credit in the first place?
I think that is the question. I'd say his profile was reason he got so much, which in itself calls into question AIBs credit underwriting standards.. if the man is broke, no other option really then W/O.
I see more details have come out.
DJ got the loans totaling 9.5m to buy a few houses on the K Club and Mt Juliet (either 3 or 4). This was at the height of the Celtic Tiger in 2005-2008.
This was at a time when banks were giving money to anybody who wanted it (even sending letters offering pre-approved loans to those who didn't ask for it).
DJ had no real means to service the loan, other than by renting the houses out. But he and the bank were probably presuming he'd sell up for 15m or more in a few years, and they'd all be on the pigs back.
But then the crash happened. DJ completely underwater. Banks then in panic mode. So they have choice where the force the person into bankruptcy (which usually doesn't give anyone a good answer) or they come to a settlement, and in DJs case he had to give them 60k cash, and sell all the houses and give that money to AIB (which came to 1.8m) and an agreement that that if he came into money in the next 5 years he hand to hand it over to the bank. So overall that's possibly slightly better result for the bank than forcing him to go through bankruptcy and certainly no worse.
And the very same thing happened to many property investors who got in at the wrong time.
So it's not like DJ walked away with 9m of AIB's cash. The people who benefited were the sellers in 2005-2008 and the buyers in 2014. The bank were more at fault than DJ.
Of course this doesn't take away from the fact that he seems to be awful human being from the other stories all week where he's been asking for money from people far and wide to fund treatment for seemingly phantom illnesses.
He gambled in order to win big on the properties continuing to increase. So to get away with a loss of €60k was a huge result for him. But I do think the bank have more questions to answer than DJ Carey on that matter. Everybody knows someone who received a write down of a speculative loan though maybe not to that extent. The cancer stuff if true is a whole different ball game altogether though.
The bank obviously believed in his speculation plan by extending him the loans.
Carey had the to surrender the properties and they all get burned as fools.
I sense that some of those outraged at the write-down are people who want a write down on a negative equity property but still get to keep it.
It looks as though he didn't want to accept his reduced circumstances after the deal. Other people reinvented themselves in new businesses. He doesn't seem to have.
It reported today that his sister has been arrested
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/catriona-carey-arrested-as-part-of-investigation-into-alleged-company-law-breaches-42354383.html
Quote from: armaghniac on February 22, 2023, 03:47:10 PM
It reported today that his sister has been arrested
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/catriona-carey-arrested-as-part-of-investigation-into-alleged-company-law-breaches-42354383.html
If that cancer scam story is true he should be locked up and the key thrown away
The former GAA player arrested https://t.co/Kt6mgD9aLM
So long story short. You can fleece the banks and local businessman all you want. Try it on with Denis O Brien and he will f*ck you so hard your ears will ring.
Sums it up in short!
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 22, 2023, 12:38:55 PM
Quote from: Hound on February 22, 2023, 08:14:57 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 20, 2023, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 20, 2023, 10:31:55 AM
These writedowns happen when the person has little or no means to repay.
If Carey was repaying the debt at €1,000 a month, it would take him 750 years to reach €9 million.
The bigger question is how did he get so much credit in the first place?
I think that is the question. I'd say his profile was reason he got so much, which in itself calls into question AIBs credit underwriting standards.. if the man is broke, no other option really then W/O.
Bt that's not really the argument. He sold the properties, gave them 60k and that was that. There is a step in the middle before bankruptcy that is a judgement against him to keep paying them. That's what happens to the plebs
Nonsense, the bank was being pragmatic in the same way it was with thousands of others all over the country. Where do you think the billions written off by our banks went to - as someone else pointed out, the problem was in extending the credit in the first place.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 22, 2023, 10:43:11 PM
So long story short. You can fleece the banks and local businessman all you want. Try it on with Denis O Brien and he will f*ck you so hard your ears will ring.
I'm not sure about the local businessmen, but in the case of the bank you go along and put your plan to them and they decide to loan you money or not, there is not necessarily any deceit involved in that particular transaction. Poor judgement, and negligence on the part of the bank, but not deceit.
The cancer lie is something else altogether.
Denis o'brien does not have to go for Election not even Deal with the Public. So he doent nee to give 2 sh!ts
Armagh haven't been in the Ulster final since 2008
Galway have 8 matches to win the all Ireland. Armagh have 13
Quote from: seafoid on March 22, 2023, 08:31:07 AM
Galway have 8 matches to win the all Ireland. Armagh have 13
Galway automatically into Qtr Finals??? That's hardly fair on the rest of us!
Armagh max 4 Ulster, 3 Group games, max 4 knock out games.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 22, 2023, 10:24:29 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 22, 2023, 08:31:07 AM
Galway have 8 matches to win the all Ireland. Armagh have 13
Galway automatically into Qtr Finals??? That's hardly fair on the rest of us!
Armagh max 4 Ulster, 3 Group games, max 4 knock out games.
2 Connacht 3 group of 4, qtr, semi. final
Quote from: seafoid on March 22, 2023, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 22, 2023, 10:24:29 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 22, 2023, 08:31:07 AM
Galway have 8 matches to win the all Ireland. Armagh have 13
Galway automatically into Qtr Finals??? That's hardly fair on the rest of us!
Armagh max 4 Ulster, 3 Group games, max 4 knock out games.
2 Connacht 3 group of 4, qtr, semi. final
a quarter final preliminary/qualifier if they do not win group.
I don't think sums are Seafoid's strongpoint ;D :D
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 22, 2023, 03:48:19 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 22, 2023, 03:47:10 PM
It reported today that his sister has been arrested
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/catriona-carey-arrested-as-part-of-investigation-into-alleged-company-law-breaches-42354383.html
If that cancer scam story is true he should be locked up and the key thrown away
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/father-of-catriona-carey-and-brother-dj-carey-leaves-1m-estate-in-will-but-neither-inherit-from-it/a178379640.html
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_4e-BiWoAAyPlN?format=jpg&name=medium)
Christ!!
Quote from: screenexile on November 26, 2023, 08:39:15 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_4e-BiWoAAyPlN?format=jpg&name=medium)
Christ!!
Those North Koreans sure take their GAA seriously
There are some head the balls in charge of football teams
Twitter wants to blame the coach and the committee for this nonsense.
But the reality is that it's only possible to come up with a set of rules like this if there's a core of players driving it.
Quote from: thewobbler on November 26, 2023, 08:47:58 PMTwitter wants to blame the coach and the committee for this nonsense.
But the reality is that it's only possible to come up with a set of rules like this if there's a core of players driving it.
Maybe at Senior, but at underage it's almost always driven by coaches who want the glory. The wee skinny lad hasn't a chance.
Clarinbridge in Galway ?
Quote from: thewobbler on November 26, 2023, 08:47:58 PMTwitter wants to blame the coach and the committee for this nonsense.
But the reality is that it's only possible to come up with a set of rules like this if there's a core of players driving it.
Do you think so?? Jesus I'd hope not you'd hope that you're able to reason most of the above out with your team mates. Also why would you banish someone who's heading away? Surely if they're good enough you keep them until they go?
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure Glen have had a few lads travelling at different stages in the past few years and haven't subscribed to the above nonsense.
No soccer or golf? Jesus!
Also whatever about the nonsense of it how is this being circulated? You'd have it on a powerpoint or get the lads to sign a hard copy at a meeting there's no way that should be available for distribution around Ireland!
Quote from: screenexile on November 26, 2023, 09:04:54 PMQuote from: thewobbler on November 26, 2023, 08:47:58 PMTwitter wants to blame the coach and the committee for this nonsense.
But the reality is that it's only possible to come up with a set of rules like this if there's a core of players driving it.
Do you think so?? Jesus I'd hope not you'd hope that you're able to reason most of the above out with your team mates. Also why would you banish someone who's heading away? Surely if they're good enough you keep them until they go?
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure Glen have had a few lads travelling at different stages in the past few years and haven't subscribed to the above nonsense.
No soccer or golf? Jesus!
Also whatever about the nonsense of it how is this being circulated? You'd have it on a powerpoint or get the lads to sign a hard copy at a meeting there's no way that should be available for distribution around Ireland!
I just don't think it's possible for a coach to implement this culture from anything approaching scratch. It has to be the wishes of a core of players, who will then drive it.
That core of players doesn't mean all players by the way. It'll be principally made up of deluded older players who reckon that young people don't have the discipline and love of the game, that they have. And that's the only reason they're not winning county championships.
Jack McCarrons Eyebrows
Quote from: johnnycool on November 28, 2023, 03:51:48 PMQuote from: shark on November 28, 2023, 03:24:36 PMQuote from: clarshack on November 28, 2023, 12:23:23 PMQuote from: seafoid on November 28, 2023, 11:00:10 AMQuote from: Saffrongael on November 26, 2023, 09:04:00 PMClarinbridge in Galway ?
indeed
It is insane
Football or Hurling?
no football in Clarinbridge
Except Alan Kerins who probably won more at the football than the hurling...
I seen him and his with Salthill-Knocknacarra team mates in a Galway city pub after one of the their championship wins drinking away. Changed times now it seems?
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 28, 2023, 04:28:00 PMQuote from: johnnycool on November 28, 2023, 03:51:48 PMQuote from: shark on November 28, 2023, 03:24:36 PMQuote from: clarshack on November 28, 2023, 12:23:23 PMQuote from: seafoid on November 28, 2023, 11:00:10 AMQuote from: Saffrongael on November 26, 2023, 09:04:00 PMClarinbridge in Galway ?
indeed
It is insane
Football or Hurling?
no football in Clarinbridge
Except Alan Kerins who probably won more at the football than the hurling...
I seen him and his with Salthill-Knocknacarra team mates in a Galway city pub after one of the their championship wins drinking away. Changed times now it seems?
We lost the match at Croke that day!! The coldest day ever at headquarters... the bstaids
Kilmacud... a club of 7 adult teams and no other games for a month... are unable to field for the league final!
It's mad but do we have Kilmacuds rationale for this nonsense??
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41285098.html?fbclid=IwAR3ptL0cr0ChlBPlSXMKzGOBan1D36zPE-jbowyZdAmEdK5yQZLH2kdKQCw_aem_Af3MPvJMiqD6lFN3zvlQVdm6q_3fckbtz2vOXbWsdLczQpL4a8XQw_czIqdn65Ij01s
Quote from: screenexile on December 09, 2023, 01:33:37 PMKilmacud... a club of 7 adult teams and no other games for a month... are unable to field for the league final!
It's mad but do we have Kilmacuds rationale for this nonsense??
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41285098.html?fbclid=IwAR3ptL0cr0ChlBPlSXMKzGOBan1D36zPE-jbowyZdAmEdK5yQZLH2kdKQCw_aem_Af3MPvJMiqD6lFN3zvlQVdm6q_3fckbtz2vOXbWsdLczQpL4a8XQw_czIqdn65Ij01s
It is a bit off, IMHO.
Maybe telling the county board to sort themselves out and have the leagues done and dusted before championship?
so who wins the league
they dont seem to take leagues serious in some counties because there main championships are not knockout like tyrone
Can't get my head around that from Kilmacud. Can they not even give Fringe players the chance to play in a league final and get some valuable experience out of it?
Quote from: clarshack on December 09, 2023, 06:10:10 PMCan't get my head around that from Kilmacud. Can they not even give Fringe players the chance to play in a league final and get some valuable experience out of it?
Just symptomatic of how the GAA is. Clubs don't want fair. They want a system worked in their favour.
Kilcoo won't play a county final jkless they get a referee they like.
Dromore won't take penalty kicks in a minor final, even if it's in the rules. And will appeal to the death afterwards.
Kilmacud won't play a league final as it'll interrupt their championship planning.
And so on.
You know what they'd do in America in any of these situations? They'd fine the club, then throw them out of the competition for a year or two. And the rest of the clubs then row in behind the administrators. Because the sanctity of a competition is that important.
Over here, we've the opposite.
Quote from: thewobbler on December 09, 2023, 07:16:13 PMQuote from: clarshack on December 09, 2023, 06:10:10 PMCan't get my head around that from Kilmacud. Can they not even give Fringe players the chance to play in a league final and get some valuable experience out of it?
Just symptomatic of how the GAA is. Clubs don't want fair. They want a system worked in their favour.
Kilcoo won't play a county final jkless they get a referee they like.
Dromore won't take penalty kicks in a minor final, even if it's in the rules. And will appeal to the death afterwards.
Kilmacud won't play a league final as it'll interrupt their championship planning.
And so on.
You know what they'd do in America in any of these situations? They'd fine the club, then throw them out of the competition for a year or two. And the rest of the clubs then row in behind the administrators. Because the sanctity of a competition is that important.
Over here, we've the opposite.
Kilmacud could fire out 15 lads who are gonna be nowhere near their first team I'm sure. Joke is right.
is it snowflakism within some gaa clubs or some sort of entitlement.
The all ireland semi final is not to january and they say they cant field a team do these players not want to win trophies.
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 09, 2023, 07:25:35 PMQuote from: thewobbler on December 09, 2023, 07:16:13 PMQuote from: clarshack on December 09, 2023, 06:10:10 PMCan't get my head around that from Kilmacud. Can they not even give Fringe players the chance to play in a league final and get some valuable experience out of it?
Just symptomatic of how the GAA is. Clubs don't want fair. They want a system worked in their favour.
Kilcoo won't play a county final jkless they get a referee they like.
Dromore won't take penalty kicks in a minor final, even if it's in the rules. And will appeal to the death afterwards.
Kilmacud won't play a league final as it'll interrupt their championship planning.
And so on.
You know what they'd do in America in any of these situations? They'd fine the club, then throw them out of the competition for a year or two. And the rest of the clubs then row in behind the administrators. Because the sanctity of a competition is that important.
Over here, we've the opposite.
Kilmacud could fire out 15 lads who are gonna be nowhere near their first team I'm sure. Joke is right.
And 15 players better than most senior club first teams in the country probably.
Quote from: screenexile on December 09, 2023, 01:33:37 PMKilmacud... a club of 7 adult teams and no other games for a month... are unable to field for the league final!
It's mad but do we have Kilmacuds rationale for this nonsense??
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41285098.html?fbclid=IwAR3ptL0cr0ChlBPlSXMKzGOBan1D36zPE-jbowyZdAmEdK5yQZLH2kdKQCw_aem_Af3MPvJMiqD6lFN3zvlQVdm6q_3fckbtz2vOXbWsdLczQpL4a8XQw_czIqdn65Ij01s
Very poor form by Kilmacud Crokes. Loads of clubs across the country are struggling to field but still go out of their way to play the fixture.
Pat Flanagans letter after leaving Newbridge ;D
https://x.com/johnnyrc88/status/1733279207105442111?s=46
;D That's pretty special.
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 09, 2023, 08:05:27 PMQuote from: screenexile on December 09, 2023, 01:33:37 PMKilmacud... a club of 7 adult teams and no other games for a month... are unable to field for the league final!
It's mad but do we have Kilmacuds rationale for this nonsense??
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41285098.html?fbclid=IwAR3ptL0cr0ChlBPlSXMKzGOBan1D36zPE-jbowyZdAmEdK5yQZLH2kdKQCw_aem_Af3MPvJMiqD6lFN3zvlQVdm6q_3fckbtz2vOXbWsdLczQpL4a8XQw_czIqdn65Ij01s
Very poor form by Kilmacud Crokes. Loads of clubs across the country are struggling to field but still go out of their way to play the fixture.
Quite ironic that just 11 months ago they were able to field 16 players and can't even get 15 together now.
Quote from: square_ball on December 09, 2023, 09:58:39 PMPat Flanagans letter after leaving Newbridge ;D
https://x.com/johnnyrc88/status/1733279207105442111?s=46
Didn't he agree to join a club in Meath before joining Newbridge?
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2023, 10:24:20 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on December 09, 2023, 08:05:27 PMQuote from: screenexile on December 09, 2023, 01:33:37 PMKilmacud... a club of 7 adult teams and no other games for a month... are unable to field for the league final!
It's mad but do we have Kilmacuds rationale for this nonsense??
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41285098.html?fbclid=IwAR3ptL0cr0ChlBPlSXMKzGOBan1D36zPE-jbowyZdAmEdK5yQZLH2kdKQCw_aem_Af3MPvJMiqD6lFN3zvlQVdm6q_3fckbtz2vOXbWsdLczQpL4a8XQw_czIqdn65Ij01s
Very poor form by Kilmacud Crokes. Loads of clubs across the country are struggling to field but still go out of their way to play the fixture.
Quite ironic that just 11 months ago they were able to field 16 players and can't even get 15 together now.
Very good lol
Quote from: square_ball on December 09, 2023, 09:58:39 PMPat Flanagans letter after leaving Newbridge ;D
https://x.com/johnnyrc88/status/1733279207105442111?s=46
Pat has moved on to his next gig in Westmeath.
https://www.westmeathindependent.ie/2023/12/16/caulry-appoint-former-westmeath-boss-as-new-manager/
Quote from: square_ball on December 09, 2023, 09:58:39 PMPat Flanagans letter after leaving Newbridge ;D
https://x.com/johnnyrc88/status/1733279207105442111?s=46
Fr Ted accepting the golden cleric was more gracious lol
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 17, 2023, 09:49:17 PMQuote from: square_ball on December 09, 2023, 09:58:39 PMPat Flanagans letter after leaving Newbridge ;D
https://x.com/johnnyrc88/status/1733279207105442111?s=46
Pat has moved on to his next gig in Westmeath.
https://www.westmeathindependent.ie/2023/12/16/caulry-appoint-former-westmeath-boss-as-new-manager/
Fair play to the players who gave him a thank you massage too
Gaelic football was invented in 1884.
Quote from: seafoid on December 29, 2023, 02:42:20 PMGaelic football was invented in 1884.
Was there a previous game of any shape at all?
Or was it conceived in its entirety at that time?
There are records of football being played in the 1300s although no detail of rules. The GAA codified the game. They needed a sport that was NOT soccer and NOT rugby so they took inspiration from various places including Australia.
I would suggest that Aus Rules developed from the type of game played by the mainly Irish transportees?
Quote from: seafoid on December 29, 2023, 02:42:20 PMGaelic football was invented in 1884.
That's not true. Lads have been gathering in fields, parish v parish, to kick a pigs bladder or tufts of straw around the place. Same in many other countries. In the late 1800's we had counties putting rules in place.
Quote from: Rossfan on December 29, 2023, 04:56:23 PMI would suggest that Aus Rules developed from the type of game played by the mainly Irish transportees?
There is an oft repeated story in Australia, that Aussie rules was developed by the Irish convicts who when asking their guards for a ball to play their sport with , were given a rugby ball and a cricket oval and told go play your game there.
I don't give it much credence.
Quote from: Derryman forever on December 29, 2023, 11:03:02 PMQuote from: Rossfan on December 29, 2023, 04:56:23 PMI would suggest that Aus Rules developed from the type of game played by the mainly Irish transportees?
There is an oft repeated story in Australia, that Aussie rules was developed by the Irish convicts who when asking their guards for a ball to play their sport with , were given a rugby ball and a cricket oval and told go play your game there.
I don't give it much credence.
The posts are the same as the original GAA posts.
Cricket ovals were the only sort of space or the most popular space available, maybe, in Australia.
In Ireland rugby and soccer, the 2 garrison games, used rectangular pitches so GAA followed this.
Use of an oval ball is a skill level thing.
Dermo is in bother...
https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/dublin-gaa-icon-diarmuid-connolly-charged-with-pub-assault/a1101048711.html
The report bizarrely doesn't mention the 2012 assault....
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on February 05, 2024, 05:36:37 PMDermo is in bother...
https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/dublin-gaa-icon-diarmuid-connolly-charged-with-pub-assault/a1101048711.html
The report bizarrely doesn't mention the 2012 assault....
Can't for legal reasons. Might prejudice any future trial.
He could see jail time if he's guilty. (If) Oh dear.
What is going on with the new official GAA Website? It is beyond woeful.
Looking for results is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
The fixtures/results section was so easy to navigate before. But this new site is truly awful
Quote from: AustinPowers on February 18, 2024, 07:15:51 PMWhat is going on with the new official GAA Website? It is beyond woeful.
Looking for results is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
The fixtures/results section was so easy to navigate before. But this new site is truly awful
It's like they got some students on work experience to update the website.
The results service is going to be an improvement I reckon. They haven't seemingly quite got their heads around the fuzzy logic of competition names (e.g if I type in terms like nfl or national or division or d2, they should ALL present me Allianz National Football League Division 2 as an option), but once that's nailed, it's going to be a big improvement on pressing through a series of buttons and toggles.
Quote from: AustinPowers on February 18, 2024, 07:15:51 PMWhat is going on with the new official GAA Website? It is beyond woeful.
Looking for results is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
The fixtures/results section was so easy to navigate before. But this new site is truly awful
I think RTE is the best website for reliable GAA results.
Score Beo app is great for up to date scores and results
Twitter gives you updates on scores all the time, its the only positive thing about twitter. In fact some provide videos of scores and a bitta craic with the comments
People really do like to complain! I was curious to see how bad the gaa site is for getting results after reading the above. Here's how challenging it was:
I went to gaa.ie and clicked 'results and fixtures' and there they were. Listed by date. Literally one click brought me to exactly what I was looking for.
Thought maybe the issue could have been with the mobile version. Went to gaa.ie on the phone, tapped the menu icon at the top, tapped 'results and fixtures' and there they were. Listed by date. A total of two taps.
There's even a search bar. Typed in 'league' and got a drop down list of which division's results I was looking for.
Are yis expecting Larry McCarthy to personally call to your door and hand deliver a printed list of the day's results or soemthing?
Quote from: Snapchap on February 19, 2024, 01:18:22 PMPeople really do like to complain! I was curious to see how bad the gaa site is for getting results after reading the above. Here's how challenging it was:
I went to gaa.ie and clicked 'results and fixtures' and there they were. Listed by date. Literally one click brought me to exactly what I was looking for.
Thought maybe the issue could have been with the mobile version. Went to gaa.ie on the phone, tapped the menu icon at the top, tapped 'results and fixtures' and there they were. Listed by date. A total of two taps.
There's even a search bar. Typed in 'league' and got a drop down list of which division's results I was looking for.
Are yis expecting Larry McCarthy to personally call to your door and hand deliver a printed list of the day's results or soemthing?
Gone have a wee look at the div 3 football table for me on it, and let us know if you think thats up to scratch as well.
Quote from: Snapchap on February 19, 2024, 01:18:22 PMPeople really do like to complain! I was curious to see how bad the gaa site is for getting results after reading the above. Here's how challenging it was:
I went to gaa.ie and clicked 'results and fixtures' and there they were. Listed by date. Literally one click brought me to exactly what I was looking for.
Thought maybe the issue could have been with the mobile version. Went to gaa.ie on the phone, tapped the menu icon at the top, tapped 'results and fixtures' and there they were. Listed by date. A total of two taps.
There's even a search bar. Typed in 'league' and got a drop down list of which division's results I was looking for.
Are yis expecting Larry McCarthy to personally call to your door and hand deliver a printed list of the day's results or soemthing?
I went looking for fixtures/results couple weeks back and gave up. Was actually gonna post on here as to where people get their info from as gaa.ie deffo wasn't an option
Quote from: HiMucker on February 19, 2024, 01:29:56 PMQuote from: Snapchap on February 19, 2024, 01:18:22 PMPeople really do like to complain! I was curious to see how bad the gaa site is for getting results after reading the above. Here's how challenging it was:
I went to gaa.ie and clicked 'results and fixtures' and there they were. Listed by date. Literally one click brought me to exactly what I was looking for.
Thought maybe the issue could have been with the mobile version. Went to gaa.ie on the phone, tapped the menu icon at the top, tapped 'results and fixtures' and there they were. Listed by date. A total of two taps.
There's even a search bar. Typed in 'league' and got a drop down list of which division's results I was looking for.
Are yis expecting Larry McCarthy to personally call to your door and hand deliver a printed list of the day's results or soemthing?
Gone have a wee look at the div 3 football table for me on it, and let us know if you think thats up to scratch as well.
Clearly the Div 3 table is missing, but that's obviously a case that it (ridiculously of course) just hasn't been published to the site, rather than an issue with the actual website design. Were it published, it's safe to say that the design of the site would make it accessible along by following the same naviagtaional process as opens any of the other tables, which is a process that requires making a grand total of just three clicks.
And it's the site design (and specifically, finding match results) that people here seem to be complaining about.
Quote from: Snapchap on February 19, 2024, 01:43:32 PMQuote from: HiMucker on February 19, 2024, 01:29:56 PMQuote from: Snapchap on February 19, 2024, 01:18:22 PMPeople really do like to complain! I was curious to see how bad the gaa site is for getting results after reading the above. Here's how challenging it was:
I went to gaa.ie and clicked 'results and fixtures' and there they were. Listed by date. Literally one click brought me to exactly what I was looking for.
Thought maybe the issue could have been with the mobile version. Went to gaa.ie on the phone, tapped the menu icon at the top, tapped 'results and fixtures' and there they were. Listed by date. A total of two taps.
There's even a search bar. Typed in 'league' and got a drop down list of which division's results I was looking for.
Are yis expecting Larry McCarthy to personally call to your door and hand deliver a printed list of the day's results or soemthing?
Gone have a wee look at the div 3 football table for me on it, and let us know if you think thats up to scratch as well.
Clearly the Div 3 table is missing, but that's obviously a case that it (ridiculously of course) just hasn't been published to the site, rather than an issue with the actual website design. Were it published, it's safe to say that the design of the site would make it accessible along by following the same naviagtaional process as opens any of the other tables, which is a process that requires making a grand total of just three clicks.
And it's the site design (and specifically, finding match results) that people here seem to be complaining about.
People are not imagining it. Its crap. Its worked fine for whatever you were looking for today, but that's not always the case. For example on matchday its not always straight forward to see the fixtures for that day.
But what is the issue? All I can see here is people saying it's crap, but the only specific complaint so far is that its hard to navigate to find results - but if results can be navigated to in two cliks/taps, then what exactly is the problem with it exactly? Is it only an issue when looking for fixtures on a matchday, rather than finding results afterwards, as others here are suggesting?
Ah I dunno. I just think just people love to complain sometimes.
Score beo is a really good app. Very up to date with scores and tables.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2024, 12:03:12 PMTwitter gives you updates on scores all the time, its the only positive thing about twitter. In fact some provide videos of scores and a bitta craic with the comments
Like this bit of craic https://twitter.com/maguire_eoghan/status/1759268225387270188
Humour wise, probably the one thing worse than English soccer bants
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 19, 2024, 11:29:33 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2024, 12:03:12 PMTwitter gives you updates on scores all the time, its the only positive thing about twitter. In fact some provide videos of scores and a bitta craic with the comments
Like this bit of craic https://twitter.com/maguire_eoghan/status/1759268225387270188
🤣🤣🤣
The IRFU went viral with the young kid singing Ireland's Call. Now they have the young Liverpool fan Daire in this week. They are really going after kids and they
I'll ask this as a WTF do the GAA social, comms and marketing actually do? Any campaign comes from the sponsor. There is no content on socials or YouTube for kids. They can tell you anything you want to know about Mbappe but they'd need a research PhD to chase up what a county player likes...
And the poxy thing is that these kids can run on the field after a game and actually meet their heroes.