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GAA Discussion / Re: 2023 League Competition - Finals prediction - Closed - 54 in

« on: Today at 12:48:56 AM »

54 entries by the deadline for the last weekend of the 2023 league Competition.

Here is a summary of what the gaaboard thinks:

Sligo 47-7 over Wicklow
Cavan 43-11 over Fermanagh

Dublin 32-22 over Derry
Galway 27-26 over Mayo with one "spoiled vote" who picked a Draw.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2023 League Competition - Finals prediction - closes Fri Midnight

« on: March 31, 2023, 06:32:14 AM »

League Finals to round out the Competition. 

Adding a "margin of victory" bonus point, meaning a total of 8 points are available.  With 3 points separating the Top 2, it's all to play for.

Rules:

Predict who will win and by what margin.  The margin of victory will be the margin at the end of normal time if there is a winner, or the margin at the end of extra time if that's what it takes.  If the game goes to penalties, the margin of victory will be 1.

DO NOT PREDICT A DRAW.

Fixtures:

Sligo v Wicklow
Fermanagh v Cavan

Derry v Dublin
Mayo v Galway


PS...the deadline of Midnight on Friday will be strictly adhered to...no late entries will be considered once the thread is locked at midnight.

Reminder of the Rules...pm sent to urbangael to change his Div 1 selection.

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GAA Discussion / Tailteann Cup 2023 - Rules from GAA Master Fixtures List

« on: March 29, 2023, 02:36:06 AM »

Tailteann Cup Round 1 (Group Stage)

Counties Participating

• The following 16 Counties shall be eligible to participate in the Tailteann Cup Round 1 (Group Stage).
(a) The 4 highest-ranked teams at the conclusion of the National League who have not qualified for the Tier 1 Championship (1st seeds)
(b) The next 4 highest-ranked teams at the conclusion of the National League who have not qualified for the Tier 1 Championship (2nd seeds)
(c) The next 4 highest-ranked teams at the conclusion of the National League who have not qualified for the Tier 1 Championship (3rd seeds)
(d) The next 4 highest-ranked teams at the conclusion of the National League who have not qualified for the Tier 1 Championship (4th seeds)

• Note: The ranking of teams in the National League referred to above shall be on the basis of the outcomes of the National League, including those of Promotion and Relegation, of the Competition Year. For the avoidance of doubt, a league final winner will be considered a higher seed than the team they defeated in the final.

Group Composition and order of games

• The Tailteann Cup Group Stage shall be on a League basis of four Groups of four teams (Groups 1, 2, 3 and 4), with each team in a Group playing the other teams in their Group once. Teams will be awarded two points for a win and one point for a draw.
• The composition of each group shall be decided by means of a draw.
• Each Group shall consist of one team from each of the seeded classifications in (a) to (d) above.
• Each team shall play one Home game, one Away game in Round 1 & 2 and one game at a neutral venue in Round 3.
• The order of games;
Round 1: Seed 1 v Seed 3, Seed 2 v Seed 4
Round 2: Seed 3 v Seed 2, Seed 4 v Seed1
Round 3, Neutral: Seed 1 v Seed 2, Seed 3 v Seed 4

• Home Venues shall be subject to approval by the Central Competitions Control Committee and shall meet the criteria set down by the National Facilities/Health and Safety Committee.

Schedule of Games
Round 1 (Home & Away)
13-14.05.2023 (Sat/Sun)
Seed 1 v Seed 3
Seed 2 v Seed 4

Round 2 (Home & Away
20-21.06.2023 (Sat/Sun)
Seed 3 v Seed 2
Seed 4 v Seed1

Round 3 (Neutral)
03-04.06.06.2023 (Sat/Sun)
Seed 1 v Seed 2
Seed 3 v Seed 4

Tie-Breakers – Group Stage

In the event of teams finishing on equal points in the Groups, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified;
(xi) Where two teams only are involved – the outcome of the meeting of the two teams in the group
(xii) Score difference – subtracting the total Scores against from the total Scores for;
(xiii) Highest Total Score For;
(xiv) Highest Total Goals For;
(xv) A Play-Off.
In the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walk over, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified below:
(vii) Score Difference from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on points), have played each other. (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For)
(viii) Highest Total Score For, in which only the teams involved, have played each other, and have finished equal in (i)
(ix) A Play-Off

Provision of New York reaches the Connacht final

• New York proceed to the group stages of Sam Maguire
• Tailteann Cup would become 17 teams, with three groups of four teams and one group of five teams. CCCC to confirm the ordering and scheduling of games in the group of five teams, with each team having two home & two away games.
• The 3rd place team in each of the four groups would go to the Preliminary Quarter Finals, and play the four 2nd placed teams.
• The dates of the Preliminary Quarter Finals, Quarter Finals and Semi-Finals would all be put back one week with no change to the final date.
Knock Out Stage

• The Tailteann Cup Winner shall be eligible for the GAA Football All-Ireland Senior Championship the following year, regardless of league position.
• New York will enter the competition at the Preliminary-Quarter-Final stage and play against one of the second-placed teams from the group stage.
• All games will be winner on the day, including the final.
• Venues for the All-Ireland Semi-Finals and Final shall be determined by the Central Competitions Control Committee.
• The first-placed team in each group shall have home venue in the Quarter-Final.
• The second-placed team in each group shall have home venue in the Preliminary Quarter-Finals.
• Home Venues shall be subject to approval by the Central Competitions Control Committee and shall meet the criteria set down by the National Facilities/Health and Safety Committee.

Preliminary Quarter-Finals
10-11.06.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Four Games)
The second-placed team in each of the four groups in Round 1 shall be drawn to play at Home against New York and the three “best placed” third-placed teams in each group.
The draw shall be subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from Round 1 (Group Stage).
The three “best placed” third-placed teams across the four groups shall be determined using the following criteria.
(i) Total Number of Points
(ii) Score difference – subtracting the total Scores against from the Scores for
(iii) Highest Total Score For
(iv) Highest Total Goals For
(v) Lowest Total Goals Against
(vi) A Play-Off
Exception: In relation to means (ii) to (v) above, if the accumulated scores of a team, so involved, are affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walkover, the tie shall be decided by a Play-Off.
If more than two teams are involved in a Play-Off, based on a draw conducted by the CCCC, two teams shall play-off for a Preliminary Quarter-Final place, with the remaining team(s) progressing to the Preliminary Quarter-Final.

Quarter-Finals

17-18.06.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Four Games)
The four first-place teams from Round 1 shall be drawn to play at home against the four Preliminary Quarter-Finals winners.
Subject to avoidance of repeat pairings from Round 1 (Group Stage).

Semi-Finals

25.06.2023 (Sun)
(Two Games)
The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a draw, subject to avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible.

Final

15.07.2023 (Sat)
(One Game)
The winners of the All-Ireland Semi-Finals shall meet in the All-Ireland Final.

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GAA Discussion / Re: GAA Championship 2023 Master Fixture List and Rules

« on: March 29, 2023, 02:29:46 AM »

All-Ireland Senior Football Round 1 (Group Stage)

Counties Participating
• The following 16 Counties shall be eligible to participate in the All-Ireland Championship Round 1 (Group Stage).

(a) The 4 Provincial Champions (1st seeds)
(b) The 4 Provincial Runners-Up (2nd seeds)
(c) The next 4 highest-ranked teams at the conclusion of the National League (3rd seeds)
(d) The next 4 highest-ranked teams at the conclusion of the National League (4th seeds)

Exception to (d): The previous year’s Tailteann Cup Winners if not already qualified as one of the teams in (a) to (d) above, shall be eligible instead of the team in (d) with the lowest National League ranking at the conclusion of that year’s National League.
• Note: The ranking of teams in the National League referred to above shall be on the basis of the outcomes of the National League, including those of Promotion and Relegation, of the Competition Year. For the avoidance of doubt, a league final winner will be considered a higher seed than the team they defeated in the final.

Group Composition and order of games

• The All-Ireland Group Stage shall be on a League basis of four Groups of four teams (Groups A, B, C and D), with each team in a Group playing the other teams in their Group once. Teams will be awarded two points for a win and one point for a draw.
• The composition of each group shall be decided by means of a draw.
• Each Group shall consist of one team from each of the seeded classifications in (a) to (d) above. Teams who have already met in that year’s provincial final cannot be drawn to the same group.
• Each team shall play one Home game, one Away game in Round 1 & 2 and one game at a neutral venue in Round 3.
• The order of games;
Round 1:  Seed 1 v Seed 3, Seed 2 v Seed 4
Round 2:  Seed 3 v Seed 2, Seed 4 v Seed1
Round 3, Neutral venues:  Seed 1 v Seed 2, Seed 3 v Seed 4

• Home Venues shall be subject to approval by the Central Competitions Control Committee and shall meet the criteria set down by the National Facilities/Health and Safety Committee.

Tie-Breakers – Group Stage
In the event of teams finishing on equal points in the Groups, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified below;
(vi) Where two teams only are involved – the outcome of the meeting of the two teams in the group
(vii) Score difference – subtracting the total Scores against from the total Scores for;
(viii) Highest Total Score For;
(ix) Highest Total Goals For;
(x) A Play-Off.
In the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walk over, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified below:
(iv) Score Difference from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on points), have played each other. (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For)
(v) Highest Total Score For, in which only the teams involved, have played each other, and have finished equal in (i)
(vi) A Play-Off

Schedule of Games

Round 1 (Home & Away)
20-21.05.2023 (Sat/Sun) or 27-28.05.2023 (Sat/Sun)
Seed 1 v Seed 3
Seed 2 v Seed 4

Round 2 (Home & Away
03-04.06.2023 (Sat/Sun)
Seed 3 v Seed 2
Seed 4 v Seed1

Round 3 (Neutral)
17-18.06.2023 (Sat/Sun)
Seed 1 v Seed 2
Seed 3 v Seed 4

Preliminary Quarter-Finals

24-25.06.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Four Games)
The four second-placed teams from Round 1 shall be drawn to play at home against the four third-placed teams, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1.

Home Venues shall be subject to approval by the Central Competitions Control Committee and shall meet the criteria set down by the National Facilities/Health and Safety Committee.

Quarter-Finals

01-02.07.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Four Games)
The four first-place teams from Round 1 shall be drawn to play against the four Preliminary Quarter-Finals winners, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1.

Semi-Finals

15-16.07.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Two Games)
The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible.

Final

30.07.2023 (Sun) | (Replay: 12.08.2023 (Sat))
(One Game)
The winners of the All-Ireland Semi-Finals shall meet in the All-Ireland Final.

Note: All-Ireland Final will have Extra time in the original fixture and will be winner on the day in the event of a replay only.

Venues

Venues for the All-Ireland Quarter-Finals, Semi-Finals and Final shall be determined by the Central Competitions Control Committee.

Winner on the Day

The All-Ireland Football Preliminary Quarter-Finals, Quarter-Finals & Semi-Finals will be winner on the day.

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GAA Discussion / GAA Championship 2023 Master Fixture List and Rules - Sam Maguire

« on: March 28, 2023, 11:07:00 PM »

Probably worth a stand alone thread for all issues:

https://www.gaa.ie/news/gaa-master-fixtures-for-2023-published/

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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2023

« on: March 28, 2023, 10:57:15 PM »

Do the 2nd place finishers in a group play the 3rd place team in their group or is there a draw for the 3rd place team that they will play from another group? Hope that makes sense.

Preliminary Quarter-Finals
24-25.06.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Four Games)

The four second-placed teams from Round 1 shall be drawn to play at home against the four third-placed teams, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1.

Home Venues shall be subject to approval by the Central Competitions Control Committee and shall meet the criteria set down by the National Facilities/Health and Safety Committee.

Quarter-Finals
01-02.07.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Four Games)

The four first-place teams from Round 1 shall be drawn to play against the four Preliminary Quarter-Finals winners, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1.

Semi-Finals
15-16.07.2023 (Sat/Sun)
(Two Games)

The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible.

Final
30.07.2023 (Sun) | (Replay: 12.08.2023 (Sat))
(One Game)

The winners of the All-Ireland Semi-Finals shall meet in the All-Ireland Final.

Note: All-Ireland Final will have Extra time in the original fixture and will be winner on the day in the event of a replay only.

Venues

Venues for the All-Ireland Quarter-Finals, Semi-Finals and Final shall be determined by the Central Competitions Control Committee.

Winner on the Day

The All-Ireland Football Preliminary Quarter-Finals, Quarter-Finals & Semi-Finals will be winner on the day.

Edit:  Link to Master Fixtures 2023 Booklet:  https://www.gaa.ie/news/gaa-master-fixtures-for-2023-published/

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GAA Discussion / Re: Division 2 2023

« on: March 27, 2023, 12:03:34 AM »

Ulster semifinals could produce a Div 3 finalist...

Fermanagh or Derry V Tyrone or Monaghan

Donegal or Down V Cavan or Armagh/Antrim

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GAA Discussion / Re: Division 2 2023

« on: March 27, 2023, 12:01:34 AM »

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/0326/1366404-allianz-football-league-updates/

Should one more Division 3/4 team, outside of Connacht, reach a provincial decider, then Meath may be bound for Tailteann Cup football.

Unless Meath themselves make the Leinster final, which is quite possible.

Leinster semifinals:

Kildare or Wicklow/Carlow V Dublin or Wexford/Laois

Meath or Longford/Offaly V Westmeath or Louth.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2023 League Competition - Finals prediction - closes Fri Midnight

« on: March 26, 2023, 11:53:23 PM »

League Finals to round out the Competition. 

Adding a "margin of victory" bonus point, meaning a total of 8 points are available.  With 3 points separating the Top 2, it's all to play for.

Rules:

Predict who will win and by what margin.  The margin of victory will be the margin at the end of normal time if there is a winner, or the margin at the end of extra time if that's what it takes.  If the game goes to penalties, the margin of victory will be 1.

DO NOT PREDICT A DRAW.

Fixtures:

Sligo v Wicklow
Fermanagh v Cavan

Derry v Dublin
Mayo v Galway


PS...the deadline of Midnight on Friday will be strictly adhered to...no late entries will be considered once the thread is locked at midnight.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2023 League Competition - Leaderboard after Rd 7

« on: March 26, 2023, 11:43:35 PM »

Below is the Leaderboard after Rd 7.    61 Home wins, 42 Away wins and 9 Draws.

Only the 4 finals remain...watch for the bonus point for predicting margin of victory in the finals.  Last year's finals were won by 1, 1, 5 and 15 points respectively (to save anyone the research time, as I know many of you take this very seriously).


83      red hander
80      AustinPowers, urbangael

78      square_ball, tbrick18
77      Hoof Hearted
76      Ed Ricketts, Halfquarter, rosnarun
75      Brick Tamlin, Fear ón Srath Bán, Itchy

74      general_lee, ranch, Shamrock Shore, toby47, UpMeeyo
73      Estimator, ONeill, SHEEDY, The Coastguard, trailer, twohands!!!
72      armaghniac, Cavan19, Oraisteach, tonto1888, trueblue1234
71      BennyHarp, Dreadnought
70      cloneman, glens73, oakleaflad, PMG1, Rossfan, Rudi

69      Ball Hopper, Blowitupref, joemamas, Tatler Jack
68      Derryman forever, imtommygunn, JP, rrhf, seafoid
67      Armagh18
66      GoldCoastRossie
65      smort,    weareros

64      maigheo
63      donelli
62      The Boy Wonder
60      David McKeown, JoG2, John Martin, pbat, Taylor

57      Substandard
52      Tyrdub
51      MusclesMagoo
49      sligoman2
48      on the sideline
44      meatsy86
32      1884, HiMucker
30      In hiding

27      Olly
22      Never beat the deeler
20      clubman21, laceer
17      yellowcard
11      OrchardOrange
9      bigarsedkeeper, Ciarrai_thuaidh
7      dec


* PM me if you think your score is incorrect

Edit to move AustinPowers to 80...right in the mix for Finals weekend.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2023 League Competition - Rd 7 Results

« on: March 26, 2023, 11:33:35 PM »

Rd 7 results below.  9 Home wins, 6 Away wins and 1 Draw means 18 points is the max for this round.


15  urbangael
13  AustinPowers, Brick Tamlin, PMG1, ranch, trailer

12  Blowitupref, Estimator, Itchy, JoG2, oakleaflad, ONeill, square_ball, Tatler Jack, Taylor, trueblue1234
11  Ball Hopper, BennyHarp, Ed Ricketts, glens73, Hoof Hearted, joemamas, seafoid
10  cloneman, Dreadnought, Fear ón Srath Bán, Halfquarter, maigheo, pbat, Rudi, Shamrock Shore, tbrick18, twohands!!!, weareros

9   David McKeown, John Martin, JP, Oraisteach, Rossfan, rrhf, SHEEDY, Substandard, The Boy Wonder, toby47, UpMeeyo
8   Armagh18, armaghniac, Cavan19, Derryman forever, imtommygunn, red hander, rosnarun, sligoman2, smort, The Coastguard, tonto1888
7   general_lee, GoldCoastRossie
3   Olly


* PM me if you think your score is incorrect

Edit: once again, changes by entrants slipped by...AustinPowers now at 13 (not 10).

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2023 League Competition - Rd 7 Closed

« on: March 25, 2023, 09:27:53 PM »

from joemamas at 9pm+ on Saturday night, so his Wexford v Carlow pick is disqualified:

Galway v Kerry - draw
Roscommon v Donegal - Roscommon
Tyrone v Armagh - Tyrone
Mayo v Monaghan - Monaghan

Clare v Limerick - Clare
Dublin v Louth - Dublin
Kildare v Meath - Kildare
Cork v Derry - Cork

Cavan v Fermanagh - Fermanagh
Westmeath v Tipperary - Westmeath
Offaly v Down - Down
Longford v Antrim - Antrim

Wexford v Carlow - Wexford
London v Laois - London
Waterford v Wicklow - Wicklow
Leitrim v Sligo - Sligo

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2023 League Competition - Rd 7 Closed

« on: March 25, 2023, 08:05:49 PM »

From general_lee at 5:18pm Saturday (before the only game on Saturday started):


Galway v Kerry
Roscommon v Donegal
Tyrone v Armagh
Mayo v Monaghan

Clare v Limerick
Dublin v Louth
Kildare v Meath
Cork v Derry

Cavan v Fermanagh
Westmeath v Tipperary
Offaly v Down
Longford v Antrim

Wexford v Carlow
London v Laois
Waterford v Wicklow
Leitrim v Sligo

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2023 League Competition - Rd 7 Closed

« on: March 25, 2023, 06:03:04 AM »

57 entrants for Rd 7.  Top picks are 56 for Wicklow, 55 for Westmeath and 54 for Laois.  Top draw picks are Galway/Kerry with 13 and Cavan/Fermanagh with 11.

Here is the full selection - Home/Away/Draw

Galway v Kerry           22   22   13
Roscommon v Donegal   51   4   2
Tyrone v Armagh           40   8   9
Mayo v Monaghan           46   8   3

Clare v Limerick   52   0   5
Dublin v Louth           52   2   3
Kildare v Meath   36   16   5
Cork v Derry           16   34   7

Cavan v Fermanagh   33   13   11
Westmeath v Tipperary   55   1   1
Offaly v Down                   29   19   9
Longford v Antrim           12   38   7

Wexford v Carlow           46   5   6
London v Laois           2   54   1
Waterford v Wicklow   0   56   1
Leitrim v Sligo                  18   33   6

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2023 League Competition - Rd 6 Results

« on: March 19, 2023, 08:05:23 PM »

Rd 7, Entries in by Friday 24 March Midnight please (even though all games are on Sunday):

Galway v Kerry
Roscommon v Donegal
Tyrone v Armagh
Mayo v Monaghan

Clare v Limerick
Dublin v Louth
Kildare v Meath
Cork v Derry

Cavan v Fermanagh
Westmeath v Tipperary
Offaly v Down
Longford v Antrim

Wexford v Carlow
London v Laois
Waterford v Wicklow
Leitrim v Sligo