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that says more about a club and its structures in coaching more so.

its time to look at doing some work on your existing coaches to bring them up to scratch because if they aint good enough this year what's going to change with them in a year to make them any better?

ive made my view on that whole idea in the football thread.

i can see why clubs do it but i dont agree with it. no one gets paid to manage Dunloy at any level and no one ever will. our club has enough good people hopefully that every year we will mentors in place.

its not easy to continue this at times and for the past 2 years no one wanted to take our minor football team due to them being quite weak and low on numbers. we didn't field at that grade for 2 years. its unfortunate but what can you do?

had we offered someone money to take them im sure they would have done it but would it have made any difference to how they would have done? no. thankfully we have a team and a willing management in place to take them this year.

Cushendall the team to beat definitely

lol 

to be fair my assessment is based on experience, no team can keep it going no matter what supporters may believe nor want.

i kinda think that myself but there could stil be another one left in them. i see alot of the way were with Loughgiel with a good team winning all yet aging away with a few players dropping off and a few maybe sticking on a bit more.

we didnt have the necessary talent just to take over and continue a dominance over antrim hurling and i think Lgiel will be the same. its not easy producing players like that each year, unless your kilkenny!

i see antrim becoming a team winning it here and there with no clear dominate club at the moment.

Skull you have not taken in one word any of the posters have posted here who have very honestly described why they took on outside managers. I hope your not a marriage guidance councillor.

his last post was pretty easy to understand. the 15 people went else where to get experience and try their hand at managing elsewhere. it left their own club with next to nothing to coach at under-age thus having a knock on effect on the future of a club.

i get people wanting to manage at senior level, ive been involved in it, its grand but its not all that its cracked up to be. From being involved now in the under-age i wouldn't look anywhere else. the future development of your owns clubs future is much more important that individual ambitions IMO.

also this is where you get the future potential sneior management. those who have grafted and moulded the youth to the highest skill levels and attended CPDs/seminars and did the ground work within a club.

An outsider can walk away if it goes tits up after a season and not care how the team does the following season. could a local club man say the same?

[The man portglenone installed as manager was turned down by his original native club as he was looking too much expenses!]

Lads just to clear it up the fella in question managed/coached stinsons minors this last few years, was involved with portglenone u21s and reserves also and last year was part of the successful intermediate championship winning management team!
Natural progression would be to take the reins as senior manager!
I for one don't blame him for going elsewhere to gain senior management experience.
The question for some clubs is what would u pay for success?
The man portglenone installed as manager was turned down by his original native club as he was looking too much expenses!
Who is right and who is wrong?!
I don't buy it that a sponsor is payin a manager as his services r still come at a cost! Did the se sponsor think the previous manager who got the team promoted and won int champ wasn't worth it anymore, is the tail wagging the dog in this instance?!

This sentence alone would put me off even talking to said person about becoming involved in my club at any level.

Lets just be frank open and honest about it for a change, if clubs werent offering the money to these mercenaries then there would be very few making the journey around the circuit in Ulster to do these jobs.

That's the plain and simple fact, you can dress it up any way you want to. He wants to test himself as a coach, he wants to have progression at the top level etc etc etc - End of the day it boils down to the brown envelope at the end of the session.

thats where the GAA is going badly wrong. a club who pays someone to take their team has to look hard at itself and the lack of confidence it has in its existing coaches. i dont mind a team fund raising to get some additional help for equipment, sessions with someone etc but for some one to take them? not a chance.

our club will not pay for anyone to manage them and i hope this continues. there's plenty of good people within each club that if given a chance could do a job, we should never look beyond those in our clubs who want to do a job. to go outside is, well an insult to members.

i don't know what people want to achieve in GAA management here? i mean there's no job at the end of it that means you can ditch your 9-5 existence. Christ if that were the case i could be worth a fair penny with what i do! lol

to be honest if it were me i would strive to contribute to the under age set up if i didnt get a post. i wont lie, not one penny could make me take another team. i wouldn't have the passion that i have for my own club.

but that just my opinion. i know Gareth as well and he's a good guy so good luck to him.

And I asure you it's the same both ways.  No doubt they'll be back at the top some day. Big club. Another sleeping giant.  And when that day arrives.fair play to them. But I hope it's a day or two yet.

i have to agree with you SG. whilst the neutrals all loved your win over the dall to win your first title in a lifetime i couldnt stay at the end to watch it lol i had to run for the hills and refuse to buy a paper to acknowledge it ever happened!

it was no more than you deserved all the same as you had alot of misfortune not to win it before that but i could of seen use not win it for a lot longer. that isnt being bitter its just not wanting your rivals to win. it works both ways.

hurler24 it isnt snide remarks its merely the hard truth that too many in the towns team don't want to know come the big day. they have lost to us 3 times in the past 5 years and on no occasion did we play well, in fact we were lucky to come through them due to ballycastle being poorer than we were.

great hurlers, really good ones in fact. i would take mcafee, saul, neil etc any day of the week in a dunloy team but they need to dig in this year. results in the league against the likes of the dall, lgiel, ourselves etc all build confidence and a winning mentality.

"Double check this lads, is this really Lamh Dhearg in the Junior Hurling Chhampionship?"

'f**k it, throw cargin in against St galls. Sure the gate will cover all the moaning we will have to listen to.'

there was 4 seeded and 7 unseeded. 3v3 in the preliminary meaning the 3 would go into playing the 4 seeds along with the 1 team who was lucky enough to avoid the prelim round.

easy fuking peasy. but no. not on your nelly could Antrim county board do that. naw they fuked it up and came with some silly excuse on twitter about the preliminary rounds messing it up.

yeah they are in Div 1 this year. its actually an interesting tie, i have alot of friends who play for cloney and have been to alot of thier games so it will be good craic playing them this year. the messages started last night between each other, they fancy taking on lgiel in the final! lol

good banter

Happy enough with out side of the draw. Wanted to avoid the johnnies at all costs so happy with that.

Games are at neutral venues, our game most likely in lgiel. Town v Rossa and lgiel possibly a double header in the city?

What's with this loughgiel team to beat nonsense? Cushendall are the worthy champions and the team to beat. They are the champions therefore the best team in the county.  The smoke was fairly rising out of the lurig yesterday when I drove past.   

are use like us now SIE, done out and finished lol

one bad season in Antrim and your clubs deemed finished with no talent coming through it seems at times.

Loughgiel would still be my team to beat this year mainly due to the fact that they still have a strong team. a winter off will have done them more good than anything