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Was at the game yesterday and I would be of the belief that the Gaels were right to play a sweeper. I hate to disagree with you Boojangles but Collins was not a physical match for Murphy. The thing that saved him was that only one ball went in high to him and then he moved out to centre forward. The one that did come in he did what he does to everyone, he held Collins off with one hand and collected the ball with the other. Whether Meehan was the man to do the jobs is open to debate but the Gaels didn't have two good corner backs in there cos Glenswilly only played two inside. If no sweeper had been played and Murphy had rattled the net early on I'm pretty sure we'd be asking why didn't the Gaels play a sweeper when Murphy was the most obvious of obvious threats.
Sean Reilly and Enda King were poor on the ball although in fairness to Reilly he did make three clean catches from kickouts. I actually thought that by bringing Smith on and releasing Meehan from his defensive duties that the Gaels had performed a smart move and it took Glenswilly by surprise. They went 2 up in a very tight game and had Sean Reilly or Murray taken their goal chances we'd be on here talking about what a deserved win it was. These are the thin lines between winning and losing. I have no idea if it were a penalty or not but there wasn't much complaining and it's hard to see why the ref would have given it if it wasn't. As PJF said it was a case of shit happens. It will be a serious blow to the Gaels mentally, especially to the likes of Lyng, Johnstone,Chesty,Dominic etc. who have been through this all before.

Watching the Irish soccer team is worse than sitting through ten episodes of Eastenders played backwards---ROLL ON 6AM!!!

It's not fair. The soccer boys need a more inspiring anthem to get them up for it.

Armenia 2-0 approaching half time. Cat and pigeons.

Celt Man, did I hear right that your lot didn't take too kindly to Drumgoon being the pride of the parish?

Andrews takes sole charge of Cavan
11 July 2011

Cavan boss Val AndrewsCavan have confirmed that Val Andrews will be their sole senior football manager for next season, with Terry Hyland occupying a selector role.

Andrews and Hyland were appointed as joint-managers of the Breffni County in September of last year and oversaw a disappointing campaign in 2011 in which they failed to challenge for promotion in Division Three of the NFL and suffered heavy home defeats to Donegal and Longford in the championship.

Hyland was in charge of the county's Under 21 footballers which captured an Ulster title back in March, and also reached the All-Ireland final against Galway at Croke Park, but has decided to hand the senior reins over to his Ballymun counterpart.

This Sunday will see Cavan bid for another provincial crown when they take on Armagh in the ESB Ulster Minor Football Championship final at St Tiernach's Park, Clones (throw-in 2.00pm).

Another positive note - Hyland at least knows what part of the problem is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOAckNJXatU

Maybe but then again maybe Cavan wanted a run-in of two games at home.
What was pretty lousy was agreeing to moving the Limerick game to 12:45 from 1:30. Every other game was at 2:30. So three hours to Limerick isn't bad enough but we have to go earlier.

Johnston got the goal but Lyng stepped over his weak shot which fooled the keeper so I wouldn't be too bothered with that aspect of the report. My point is that Wexford shouldn't have "beat us out the gate" in my opinion. They were good value for their half time lead but Cavan dominated large spells of the second half and but for their keeper they could have won the game. Johnston is worrying. He is working hard and came out to half-forward in the second half but he is being beaten to the ball by corner backs this year so I'm not sure what's up with him. Keating and Givney were named at 14 and 12 respectively yet neither started. Keating wasn't as prominent as against Limerick but still looks lively and would seem like a decent option there. Lyng was outstanding in my opinion. Nothing spectacular but he has an intelligence which I feel is badly lacking in some of the other players. He has a lot to prove to Cavan people regarding his dedication before we get carried away but I've felt that he's the best player in the county for years now if only he'd stick at it with the county long enough.
For what it's worth I think there are two main problems with the team overall. First, the full-back line, none of which should be playing there. Second, the mindset of the players. I'm not questioning workrate or dedication, but how that's applied. I would look at the management on this second point as their reaction to what I perceive as bad levels of concentration isn't good enough. The full-back line has been debated on here and I don't know what more can be done. But I'd love to know what happened to Eoin McPhilips? He's the best corner back we've had since Hannon first hit the panel in my opinion. He was mysteriously left out come championship last year and I'm not sure what his situation is this year.
There's not that much wrong with the rest of the team that can't be put right with some good motivation.James Reilly,McCutchon,McKeever,Padraig Reilly,Cullivan,Givney,Smith,Lyng,Mackey,Johnston,Pearson are all very capable.

Two reports on the game against Wexford which reflect the game much more accurately than what is being reported as being on the Wexford radio station in my opinion. Hopefully these will quell the exaggerated view of the state of the senior team on this thread a little.
NFL 3: Wexford survive Cavan scare

Wexford keeper Anthony Masterson
20 March 2011

Wexford 1-14
Cavan 2-9

Wexford survived a second half scare against struggling Cavan to extend their lead at the top of the Allianz National Football League Division 3 table on Sunday.

Despite playing into the breeze in the first half, the home side led by seven (1-7 to 0-3) at the interval with the goal coming from Paddy Byrne.

But just when a facile victory seemed to be on the cards, Cavan came out all guns blazing in the second half, hitting two goals and forcing Wexford keeper Anthony Masterson into a series of vital stops as the home side just held on.


Michael Lyng came off the bench to fire two goals while Lyng, Eugene Keating and Cian Mackey all saw goalbound efforts rebuffed by Masterson.

Wexford: A Masterson; N Murphy, G Molloy, A Morrissey (0-1); B Malone, D Murphy, A Doyle (0-1); R Quinlivan, D Waters; S O'Neill (0-1), R Barry (0-1), G Sunderland; C Lyng (0-3, 2 frees), P Byrne (1-1), B Brosnan (0-6, 4 frees). Subs: C Morris for Sunderland (46 mins); S Roche for Morrissey (62).

Cavan: J Reilly; A Clarke, D Sheridan, D O'Dowd; M McKeever, J McCutcheon, D Reilly; R Cullivan (0-2), P O'Reilly; R Flanagan (0-3, 2 frees), G Smith (0-2, frees), B Fitzpatrick; C Mackey (0-1), M Brennan, S Johnston (0-1, free). Subs: D Givney for Fitzpatrick (12); T Corr for Sheridan (35); M Lyng (2-0) for Smith (35); E Keating for Brennan (35); K Fannin for Cullivan (66).

Referee: N Ward (Westmeath).


Allianz Football League Division 3, Round 5.
Wexford V Cavan. Wexford Park. 2.30pm.

The old cliché "a game of two half's" is an appropriate description for this Allianz division 3 tie which was played out in Wexford park. As visitors for the second week running Cavan didn't offer much in the way of competition for a Wexford side who out scored them by 1.07 to 0.03 in the opening half. Cavan did start the brighter with two points in the first 2 minutes thanks to the free taking of their forty yards man Gareth smith. However during a 20 minute spell the home side scored 8 times with out reply.

Adrian Morrissey opened Wexford's account on 11 minutes. This was quickly followed by a goal from full forward Paddy Byrne thanks to an excellent pass from top scorer Ben Brosnan who scored 3 points in each half. Cavan replaced Brendan Fitzpatrick with David Givney the first of 5 substitutions in total made by the Breffni men. Andreas Doyle fisted over on the half hour followed by Cavan's only point from play in this half courtesy of midfielder Ray Cullivan, leaving a half time score of 1.07 to 0.03 in favour of Wexford.

Cavan's management rang the changes during the break introducing Tomas Corr, Michael Lyng and Eugene Keating to the full back, centre and full forward positions. Whilst it was Wexford's Ciarán Lyng who got the first score of the second half the new look visitors did emerge as a much more organised and eager outfit. Cian Mackey and Redmond Barry exchanged points before Cavan's work rate started to reap real dividends.

Points from Ray Cullivan and Ronan Flanagan prefaced a goal from Sean Johnston on 13 minutes leaving the score 1.09 to 1.06. Cavan's centre back John McCutcheon raised the white flag only to have his contribution cancelled by referee Niall Ward following consultation with his one of his assistants. That let off spurred on Wexford to score 3 unanswered points courtesy of their full forward line.

Cavan's most influential player, substitute Michael Lyng masterminded a number of excellent scoring opportunities, but goal keeper Anthony Masterson foiled the Breffni men on no less than 3 occasions in one on one encounters. These missed opportunities cost Cavan dearly. Lyng did get the upper hand on Masterson in injury time with a cleverly worked goal but time ran out for Cavan who suffered their second defeat in as many weeks and now face a mammoth task to survive in this division.

Final score Wexford 1.14 Cavan 2.09

Referee Niall Ward, Westmeath.


Wexford A Masterson, N Murphy, G Molloy, A Morrissey (0.01), B Malone, D Murphy, A Doyle (0.01), R Quinlivan, D Waters, S O'Neill (0.01), R Barry (0.01), G Sunderland, C Lyng (0.03) 1 free, P Byrne (1.01), B Brosnan (0.06) 4 frees.

Cavan J Reilly, A Clarke, D Sheridan, D O'Dowd, M McKeever, J McCutcheon,
D O'Reilly, R Cullivan (0.02), P O'Reilly, R Flanagan (0.03) 2 frees,
G Smith (0.02) 2 frees, Brendan Fitzpatrick, C Mackey (0.01), M Brennan,
S Johnston (1.01) 1 free.

Substitutes:

Wexford, S Roche for A Morrissey, C Morris for G Sunderland.



Cavan, D Givney for B Fitzpatrick, T Corr for D Sheridan, M Lyng (1.00) for G Smith, E Keating for M Brennan, K Fannin for R Cullivan.

I'd imagine they are leaving Gearoid out because of his Club commitments and didn't Terry say U-21s would not be involved until after their Championship ended? Givney is injured as far as I know and who else does that leave that will be rejoining the panel from Colleges that aren't U-21?

With a different midfield and full back and perhaps Nesty on the 40 I'd imagine that's close enough to Cavan's strongest side?

Hannon,McPhilips,McGuigan,Mulvey,McKeever,Sheridan,Mackey,Pearson,Brides,Cahill,Keating,Martin Reilly,Lyng,Gunner??

Cheers Ulick.

Watchin Primetime there - what a crowd of squabbling pillocks!. This country severely lacks decent politicians. Then Martin Ferris is asked about public sector cuts etc- he's as clueless as the rest of the shinners. Anyone who votes for SF IMO is seriously lacking in basic intelligence.

David McWilliams seems to think SF's economic proposals make "absolute sense". He must be lacking in "basic intelligence" too. No harm kingdom, but your last line of that posts smacks of pure arrogance.

Where'd you see that from McWilliams NS?

Yes it's on

True enough. Check out the MOD's attempts to censor my post. The g makes all the difference.