UK General Election 2017

Started by Eamonnca1, April 18, 2017, 07:09:42 PM

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yellowcard

Logically, May should be toast now. However in the absence of any credible alternative leaders within the Tories, and with Brexit negotiations due to commence very shortly, she may just bungle on for a little while longer. Her hand is now severely weakened though when it comes to negotiating a deal with the EU.

She has lost all credibility and will face huge pressure from both inside and outside her party. Even the right wing media may start questioning her suitability for the job.

Avondhu star

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2017, 10:37:43 AM
Hopefully the DUP get torn to shreds but the sitting MP's in opposition, surely even Tory backbenchers won't back this? Most of the Tory voters won't have a scobby do who the DUP are and their background...

This will backfire hopefully, the reactions of a desperate leader will make her look more foolish when it collapses
Is it possible that she can look more foolish?
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

Avondhu star

Dramatic development!
Nuttall has resigned as leader of U.K.I.P.!
What a loss to politics!
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

seafoid

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Avondhu star on June 09, 2017, 10:39:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2017, 10:37:43 AM
Hopefully the DUP get torn to shreds but the sitting MP's in opposition, surely even Tory backbenchers won't back this? Most of the Tory voters won't have a scobby do who the DUP are and their background...

This will backfire hopefully, the reactions of a desperate leader will make her look more foolish when it collapses
Is it possible that she can look more foolish?

True

Seems to be a woman thing lately with local leaders, they cling on to power when the decent thing is to step down
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

tiempo

Quote from: Avondhu star on June 09, 2017, 10:27:24 AM
Quote from: Declan on June 09, 2017, 10:22:58 AM
Of note: Every single border constituency now in NI now represented by SF, as well as that little enclave of West B̶e̶r̶l̶i̶n̶ Belfast



Would that have been the map the Boundary Commission should have come up with after the Treaty?

As the decendents of a land grab occupation why would they change the habit of their forefathers? We can only be glad that the Boundary Commission bit off more than it can chew. It granted them another centruy of oppression, but it wont grant them a century more. And thats what its all about. From here on in they are going to be defending their position with their fingernails to the last while only serving to delay the inevitable.

Avondhu star

Quote from: tiempo on June 09, 2017, 10:46:23 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on June 09, 2017, 10:27:24 AM
Quote from: Declan on June 09, 2017, 10:22:58 AM
Of note: Every single border constituency now in NI now represented by SF, as well as that little enclave of West B̶e̶r̶l̶i̶n̶ Belfast



Would that have been the map the Boundary Commission should have come up with after the Treaty?

As the decendents of a land grab occupation why would they change the habit of their forefathers? We can only be glad that the Boundary Commission bit off more than it can chew. It granted them another centruy of oppression, but it wont grant them a century more. And thats what its all about. From here on in they are going to be defending their position with their fingernails to the last while only serving to delay the inevitable.
It will be interesting to see if there is any "redrawing" of the constituencies. A few thousand votes each way in different areas could change the seat allocation
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

mrdeeds

Quote from: Avondhu star on June 09, 2017, 10:51:22 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 09, 2017, 10:46:23 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on June 09, 2017, 10:27:24 AM
Quote from: Declan on June 09, 2017, 10:22:58 AM
Of note: Every single border constituency now in NI now represented by SF, as well as that little enclave of West B̶e̶r̶l̶i̶n̶ Belfast



Would that have been the map the Boundary Commission should have come up with after the Treaty?

As the decendents of a land grab occupation why would they change the habit of their forefathers? We can only be glad that the Boundary Commission bit off more than it can chew. It granted them another centruy of oppression, but it wont grant them a century more. And thats what its all about. From here on in they are going to be defending their position with their fingernails to the last while only serving to delay the inevitable.
It will be interesting to see if there is any "redrawing" of the constituencies. A few thousand votes each way in different areas could change the seat allocation

Originally Tyrone and Fermanagh were considered to become part of free state in order to make the concept of the North temporary.

tiempo

Quote from: mrdeeds on June 09, 2017, 10:58:42 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on June 09, 2017, 10:51:22 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 09, 2017, 10:46:23 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on June 09, 2017, 10:27:24 AM
Quote from: Declan on June 09, 2017, 10:22:58 AM
Of note: Every single border constituency now in NI now represented by SF, as well as that little enclave of West B̶e̶r̶l̶i̶n̶ Belfast



Would that have been the map the Boundary Commission should have come up with after the Treaty?

As the decendents of a land grab occupation why would they change the habit of their forefathers? We can only be glad that the Boundary Commission bit off more than it can chew. It granted them another centruy of oppression, but it wont grant them a century more. And thats what its all about. From here on in they are going to be defending their position with their fingernails to the last while only serving to delay the inevitable.
It will be interesting to see if there is any "redrawing" of the constituencies. A few thousand votes each way in different areas could change the seat allocation

Originally Tyrone and Fermanagh were considered to become part of free state in order to make the concept of the North temporary.

If the land grab opportunists had upheld the Ulster Covenant then the "North" wouldn't have made it past go. But of course nothing like a bit of backstabbing among pals when concerning yourself with oppression and occupation.

ned

Quote from: yellowcard on June 09, 2017, 10:07:11 AM
Ironically the conservatives have been returned to Westminster by Scotland voting for Tories. So working class Scotland have kept them in power.

Patently wrong. The torys have got the numbers due to the English vote as ever. Again their percentage vote in Scotland is lower than what they get in England or Wales. 12 MPs in Scotland only contributes to their numbers.

mrdeeds

DUP have agreed to support Tories. One condition is that Northern Ireland has no special position as part of Brexit. Jesus there's nothing more strange than people.

yellowcard

Quote from: ned on June 09, 2017, 11:23:49 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 09, 2017, 10:07:11 AM
Ironically the conservatives have been returned to Westminster by Scotland voting for Tories. So working class Scotland have kept them in power.

Patently wrong. The torys have got the numbers due to the English vote as ever. Again their percentage vote in Scotland is lower than what they get in England or Wales. 12 MPs in Scotland only contributes to their numbers.

How is it patently wrong? Got 13 seats in working class Scotland which has given them the numbers they require to form a government. It has to be the hard core Scottish Unionist vote putting constitutional issues before economic policies that got them those seats. It's economic suicide for Scottish voters to vote for the Tories and tipped the balance of power towards them enabling them to put together a government.

Applesisapples

Quote from: screenexile on June 09, 2017, 09:38:50 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 09, 2017, 09:35:07 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on June 09, 2017, 06:56:04 AM
Another election by the Autumn. Scottish independence gone for a generation at least. This weakens any chance of a border poll in the North. The D.U.P. c**k a hoop and lining up to support the Tories. S.F. finishing off the S.D.L.P. but not much use when D.U.P. have the ear of the Prime Minister
I don't get your logic, nationalists have rowed in behind SF, there are now only 5% between the Unionists and Nationalists with a 10% block in the middle. SF's strengthened hand will add to the calls. All this has been is a realignment within both large blocks.

What are you SF's strengthened hand about? Do you not get that Teresa May has to go cap in hand to the DUP now and the first thing they'll say is there's no way we are having a border poll!!!
Short term gain, but the DUP will not be able to overplay their hand as the Tories will have an eye on a new election and will not be able to give money to NI whilst cutting spending in England. May's problem is here back bench.

yellowcard

Theresa May bungling on ahead to form a government so swiftly is a catastrophic mistake for the Conservative party. She is putting her own interest first again rather than that of her party or the country, and will only serve to create more unrest. I can't imagine middle England are overly enthused about the prospect of irish DUP'ers propping up the government, with May's credibility now shattered. She will need to be thick skinned to put up with the back stabbing from within and outside the party and I don't think she has the backbone necessary to survive in the mid/longer term.

OgraAnDun

I love how the DUP are being roundly described as "Irish" by the British press. Time for them to face the reality that they're just another Paddy over there.