FAI...New Manager Hunt continues

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Baile Brigín 2

Rovers absolutely mauling these Maltese lads. Very entertaining to watch

seafoid

Great draw for Rovers

1.  Malta
2  they are out of season

Baile Brigín 2

And absolutely shite. Can only beat what's out on front of you.

Tough call for the manager. Push on and maybe win by 5 or 6 or stay calm and keep it solid and no risk

seafoid

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0705/1308585-champions-league-shamrock-rovers-v-hibernians-updates/

Two Champions League wins would guarantee Europa Conference League group stage, a pot of close to €2.9m and the added income that comes from guaranteed group games.
The fact that the entire prize fund for the Premier Division last season was €600,000 just illustrates how important this tie and progression in the competition is for Rovers and their balance sheet

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 08:47:33 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0705/1308585-champions-league-shamrock-rovers-v-hibernians-updates/

Two Champions League wins would guarantee Europa Conference League group stage, a pot of close to €2.9m and the added income that comes from guaranteed group games.
The fact that the entire prize fund for the Premier Division last season was €600,000 just illustrates how important this tie and progression in the competition is for Rovers and their balance sheet

In context when Leinster beat Munster in the Heino cup, the IRFU got 1.8m. 1m for the win, 800k the runner up.

seafoid

Hibernians have a decent record in Europe including beating Shelbourne 20 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernians_F.C.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:05:13 PM
Hibernians have a decent record in Europe including beating Shelbourne 20 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernians_F.C.

IiRC Shels were in total control and conceded late and it was considered a total disaster. One of 14 countries to have never made group stage European football

seafoid

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 05, 2022, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:05:13 PM
Hibernians have a decent record in Europe including beating Shelbourne 20 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernians_F.C.

IiRC Shels were in total control and conceded late and it was considered a total disaster. One of 14 countries to have never made group stage European football
European football is a caste system. Hibernians beat teams from San Marino, Liechtenstein and Estonia. Malta never qualified for the Euros either.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 05, 2022, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:05:13 PM
Hibernians have a decent record in Europe including beating Shelbourne 20 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernians_F.C.

IiRC Shels were in total control and conceded late and it was considered a total disaster. One of 14 countries to have never made group stage European football
European football is a caste system. Hibernians beat teams from San Marino, Liechtenstein and Estonia. Malta never qualified for the Euros either.

I'm not sure what you are arguing here. Rovers were expected to win and did so in style. The Matlesers were very very poor.

Malta is a third the size of Louth by the way.

seafoid

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 05, 2022, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 05, 2022, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:05:13 PM
Hibernians have a decent record in Europe including beating Shelbourne 20 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernians_F.C.

IiRC Shels were in total control and conceded late and it was considered a total disaster. One of 14 countries to have never made group stage European football
European football is a caste system. Hibernians beat teams from San Marino, Liechtenstein and Estonia. Malta never qualified for the Euros either.

I'm not sure what you are arguing here. Rovers were expected to win and did so in style. The Matlesers were very very poor.

Malta is a third the size of Louth by the way.
3 nil is better than 2 nil. I hope the next draw is also favourable.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 10:07:04 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 05, 2022, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 05, 2022, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:05:13 PM
Hibernians have a decent record in Europe including beating Shelbourne 20 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernians_F.C.

IiRC Shels were in total control and conceded late and it was considered a total disaster. One of 14 countries to have never made group stage European football
European football is a caste system. Hibernians beat teams from San Marino, Liechtenstein and Estonia. Malta never qualified for the Euros either.

I'm not sure what you are arguing here. Rovers were expected to win and did so in style. The Matlesers were very very poor.

Malta is a third the size of Louth by the way.
3 nil is better than 2 nil. I hope the next draw is also favourable.

Already done I believe. That unpronounceable team from Bulgaria. Ludrograts or somesuch

Main Street

#9731
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 05, 2022, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 05, 2022, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:05:13 PM
Hibernians have a decent record in Europe including beating Shelbourne 20 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernians_F.C.

IiRC Shels were in total control and conceded late and it was considered a total disaster. One of 14 countries to have never made group stage European football
European football is a caste system. Hibernians beat teams from San Marino, Liechtenstein and Estonia. Malta never qualified for the Euros either.

I'm not sure what you are arguing here. Rovers were expected to win and did so in style. The Matlesers were very very poor.

Malta is a third the size of Louth by the way.
Louth population 40,000   Malta 555,000.
At international level, Faroe Islands population 50,000  outperforms  Malta population 555,000,   
But bear in mind,  Iceland pop 350,000  outperforms Ireland at most intl age levels both male and female.

Ireland punches below its weight at all football levels, both club and country, male and female.
Shamrock Rovers though are doing well, however they only provide an elite academy to selected youngsters, not a proper academy which serves the needs of  the local community.
An equivalent football club in Iceland has about 10 teams at each age level (both male and female) from those aged  5 years onward and each of those teams is coached  by Uefa A or B  certified coaches, no volunteers allowed.
That's probably similar to all Nordic countries. By rights, according to size of population, sporting ethos, economic and social well being,  the best team in Ireland should be there or thereabouts at group stage CL, similar to Scotland. Shamrock Rovers have decidedly made an effort, supporter owned, good administration, have made some basic changes to their coaching structure and infrastructure  and have built a mini foundation of sorts. They're about 20 years behind making these changes and still have a long ways to go.


Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2022, 01:48:42 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 05, 2022, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 05, 2022, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:05:13 PM
Hibernians have a decent record in Europe including beating Shelbourne 20 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernians_F.C.

IiRC Shels were in total control and conceded late and it was considered a total disaster. One of 14 countries to have never made group stage European football
European football is a caste system. Hibernians beat teams from San Marino, Liechtenstein and Estonia. Malta never qualified for the Euros either.

I'm not sure what you are arguing here. Rovers were expected to win and did so in style. The Matlesers were very very poor.

Malta is a third the size of Louth by the way.
Louth population 40,000   Malta 555,000.
At international level, Faroe Islands population 50,000  outperforms  Malta population 555,000,   
But bear in mind,  Iceland pop 350,000  outperforms Ireland at most intl age levels both male and female.

Ireland punches below its weight at all football levels, both club and country, male and female.
Shamrock Rovers though are doing well, however they only provide an elite academy to selected youngsters, not a proper academy which serves the needs of  the local community.
An equivalent football club in Iceland has about 10 teams at each age level (both male and female) from those aged  5 years onward and each of those teams is coached  by Uefa A or B  certified coaches, no volunteers allowed.
That's probably similar to all Nordic countries. By rights, according to size of population, sporting ethos, economic and social well being,  the best team in Ireland should be there or thereabouts at group stage CL, similar to Scotland. Shamrock Rovers have decidedly made an effort, supporter owned, good administration, have made some basic changes to their coaching structure and infrastructure  and have built a mini foundation of sorts. They're about 20 years behind making these changes and still have a long ways to go.

What's a community acadamy?

Rovers have community teams too. I think you are getting mixed up. There are 47 clubs in Iceland in total and are entirely elite. The grassroots play bounce games on astros and aren't involved with clubs unless talent spotted.

Iceland is interesting but it absolutely not inclusion or grassroots based.

seafoid

Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2022, 01:48:42 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 05, 2022, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 05, 2022, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2022, 09:05:13 PM
Hibernians have a decent record in Europe including beating Shelbourne 20 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernians_F.C.

IiRC Shels were in total control and conceded late and it was considered a total disaster. One of 14 countries to have never made group stage European football
European football is a caste system. Hibernians beat teams from San Marino, Liechtenstein and Estonia. Malta never qualified for the Euros either.

I'm not sure what you are arguing here. Rovers were expected to win and did so in style. The Matlesers were very very poor.

Malta is a third the size of Louth by the way.
Louth population 40,000   Malta 555,000.
At international level, Faroe Islands population 50,000  outperforms  Malta population 555,000,   
But bear in mind,  Iceland pop 350,000  outperforms Ireland at most intl age levels both male and female.

Ireland punches below its weight at all football levels, both club and country, male and female.
Shamrock Rovers though are doing well, however they only provide an elite academy to selected youngsters, not a proper academy which serves the needs of  the local community.
An equivalent football club in Iceland has about 10 teams at each age level (both male and female) from those aged  5 years onward and each of those teams is coached  by Uefa A or B  certified coaches, no volunteers allowed.
That's probably similar to all Nordic countries. By rights, according to size of population, sporting ethos, economic and social well being,  the best team in Ireland should be there or thereabouts at group stage CL, similar to Scotland. Shamrock Rovers have decidedly made an effort, supporter owned, good administration, have made some basic changes to their coaching structure and infrastructure  and have built a mini foundation of sorts. They're about 20 years behind making these changes and still have a long ways to go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Louth#Population
According to the Central Statistics Office, Louth had a population of 128,884 as of the 2016 Census,

Itchy