FAI...New Manager Hunt continues

Started by Cúig huaire, November 19, 2009, 01:34:00 PM

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themac_23

Very very hard watching Ireland, no cutting edge and all back and side ways passing, say what you like about McCarthy or O'Neill and their style of play they got us chances football fans have evolved and it's now seen as some sort of weakness not playing out from the back, when was the last time ya seen a gk put the ball long from a goal kick? All tappy passing at the back, looks good on stars but boring as hell

Gael85

Quote from: SHEEDY on October 11, 2020, 01:06:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2020, 12:58:51 PM
4 more players out of today's game!
5 players are out, the unnamed player that tested positive plus Alan Browne, Callum ODowda, John Egan and Callum Robinson are all missing

Derrick Williams was the unnamed player.

Ed Ricketts

I think the evolution in the style of play was needed. The long ball stuff would probably still be more effective at this stage, but it's a road to nowhere at the end of it all. We've had decades of this bludgeoning your way through qualifying only to be exposed by the first serious football side you face, and most supporters seem to want something different tried.

The problem at the minute is the lack of quality in the final third. We don't have a playmaker nor a finisher to tie in with this style of play. Kenny's biggest challenge is to find or develop players for these roles. Connolly is someone that creates chances when available. There's promise in Molumby in a central role too. We could also really do with Parrott, Idah or Obafemi growing into decent Premier League quality strikers. They wouldn't have to be world beaters, just solid 10-15 goal a season men.
Doc would listen to any kind of nonsense and change it for you to a kind of wisdom.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Ed Ricketts on October 11, 2020, 05:02:08 PM
I think the evolution in the style of play was needed. The long ball stuff would probably still be more effective at this stage, but it's a road to nowhere at the end of it all. We've had decades of this bludgeoning your way through qualifying only to be exposed by the first serious football side you face, and most supporters seem to want something different tried.

The problem at the minute is the lack of quality in the final third. We don't have a playmaker nor a finisher to tie in with this style of play. Kenny's biggest challenge is to find or develop players for these roles. Connolly is someone that creates chances when available. There's promise in Molumby in a central role too. We could also really do with Parrott, Idah or Obafemi growing into decent Premier League quality strikers. They wouldn't have to be world beaters, just solid 10-15 goal a season men.

Jack Byrne is the answer.

Intersting that the starting XI were all born in Ireland. The culture is changing. But without wins will Kenny be allowed time?

Itchy

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 11, 2020, 04:15:55 PM
So they fail to score again. Like i said elsewhere seeing as they cant score you think they would have at least practiced their penalties for the playoff

I believe Kenny is on record as saying they did practice penalties, but you would know if you were ever involved in a penalty shoot out that the pressure is what gets to you, not the amount of practice you have put in

Itchy

I thought that was one of our better displays in recent times, just again missing quality in the last 3rd and probably missing a but of confidence around scoring too. I was impressed at how we were able to play out of tight spots and get ourselves into decent positions. Long really should have scored the headed chance he got. We just need a win of some sort to lift the confidence levels. I have seen enough to believe we are on the right path.

An Watcher

Just seen longs chance, you could forgive him if he hit the bar or post but headed it well over

macdanger2

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 11, 2020, 05:52:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Ricketts on October 11, 2020, 05:02:08 PM
I think the evolution in the style of play was needed. The long ball stuff would probably still be more effective at this stage, but it's a road to nowhere at the end of it all. We've had decades of this bludgeoning your way through qualifying only to be exposed by the first serious football side you face, and most supporters seem to want something different tried.

The problem at the minute is the lack of quality in the final third. We don't have a playmaker nor a finisher to tie in with this style of play. Kenny's biggest challenge is to find or develop players for these roles. Connolly is someone that creates chances when available. There's promise in Molumby in a central role too. We could also really do with Parrott, Idah or Obafemi growing into decent Premier League quality strikers. They wouldn't have to be world beaters, just solid 10-15 goal a season men.

Jack Byrne is the answer.

Intersting that the starting XI were all born in Ireland. The culture is changing. But without wins will Kenny be allowed time?

He has to have been disappointed not to get a run today, would like to see him get some time against Finland

seafoid

Not quaifying for the Euros shows where the team is at.  So does the table in League B Group 4 of the Nations League.
They qualified for the Euros via the qualifiers in  2012 and 2016.
If Ireland can't score goals this won't change.

Itchy

Quote from: seafoid on October 12, 2020, 08:54:11 AM
Not quaifying for the Euros shows where the team is at.  So does the table in League B Group 4 of the Nations League.
They qualified for the Euros via the qualifiers in  2012 and 2016.
If Ireland can't score goals this won't change.

They will score goals eventually once they are given a chance to develop what they are doing. Wales had one half chance to whole game and they are already going to the Euros. You could also argue that when Ireland last qualified they weren't scoring many goals either.

On another matter, where is Troy Parrot these days?

CitySlicker11

Troy is on loan at Millwall currently and picked up an injury a few weeks ago, not sure when he is expected back. Although still young with limited out and out strikers at Tottenham, I am surprised Jose didnt hold on to him for the season.


seafoid

Quote from: Itchy on October 12, 2020, 09:02:02 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 12, 2020, 08:54:11 AM
Not quaifying for the Euros shows where the team is at.  So does the table in League B Group 4 of the Nations League.
They qualified for the Euros via the qualifiers in  2012 and 2016.
If Ireland can't score goals this won't change.

They will score goals eventually once they are given a chance to develop what they are doing. Wales had one half chance to whole game and they are already going to the Euros. You could also argue that when Ireland last qualified they weren't scoring many goals either.

On another matter, where is Troy Parrot these days?
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/ireland-in-the-uefa-nations-league-kick-off-times-tv-details-team-news-and-more-1.4344760

"We want to play with confidence and we want to have the balance of the team right so that we can be creative and create chances. We want to have speed in our attack as well. It's very important that we have speed in our attack so that we're a real threat when we need to be." - Kenny on his vision for Ireland.

Baile Brigín 2

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Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 12, 2020, 09:09:14 AM
Troy is on loan at Millwall currently and picked up an injury a few weeks ago, not sure when he is expected back. Although still young with limited out and out strikers at Tottenham, I am surprised Jose didnt hold on to him for the season.

Strong rumours that he is, ahem, in with a bad crowd.

Ed Ricketts

U21s bate in Italy today. Still in with a great shot at second place and a best placed runner up spot. Could even still sneak top spot if Italy drop the ball against Iceland and Sweden.

Ireland definitely need to win the last two games against Iceland and Luxembourg, though. Iceland have already beaten them in this qualifying campaign, so that one is far from a given. 
Doc would listen to any kind of nonsense and change it for you to a kind of wisdom.

MayoBuck

Some good play in the first half there but still don't really look like scoring.