FAI...New Manager Hunt continues

Started by Cúig huaire, November 19, 2009, 01:34:00 PM

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Sportacus

Luxembourg picked up 17 points in their group. Having a plan goes a long way. Chris Hughton would be as good as Ireland could hope for. Ogbene and Ferguson could at least be a decent attack.

Ed Ricketts

Quote from: Blowitupref on November 21, 2023, 09:57:57 PMOnly drew at home to New Zealand tonight that should be the final game with Stephen Kenny in charge.

Next manager odds


2/1 Neil Lennon

4/1 Lee Carsley

5/1 Roy Keane

11/2 Steve Bruce

9/1 Sam Allardyce

12/1 Gus Poyet

20/1 Chris Hughton


A grim list outside of Carsley - the clear first choice. If the FAI were in any way competent he would have already been sounded out. Anthony Barry might be another not totally depressing option.
Doc would listen to any kind of nonsense and change it for you to a kind of wisdom.

Ed Ricketts

Quote from: Sportacus on November 21, 2023, 10:42:11 PMLuxembourg picked up 17 points in their group. Having a plan goes a long way. Chris Hughton would be as good as Ireland could hope for. Ogbene and Ferguson could at least be a decent attack.

About to get the chop from Ghana it seems. Lost today to a couple of small islands near Madagascar. Grim.
Doc would listen to any kind of nonsense and change it for you to a kind of wisdom.

SHEEDY

Gus Poyet or Lee carsley would be best out of that bunch. Poyet has Greece going well, drew 2-2 with France last night.
nil satis nisi optimum

snoopdog

I'm sure the wage will make a lot of managers interested. Big Sam would prob do a good job. Play a defensive system and get some results. We don't have the players to play football. Thankfully Kenny is gone.

Armagh18

Set us up to be hard to beat first and foremost. If we'd a team of lads who'll work like dogs along with the bit of quality up front that Ferguson is and will be for the next decade or so theres no reason we can't make it to major tournaments. Should be well able to beating the likes of Greece and if we were more solid we'd pick up the odd point or even a win against the better teams as well.

Sportacus

Quote from: SHEEDY on November 22, 2023, 07:50:00 AMGus Poyet or Lee carsley would be best out of that bunch. Poyet has Greece going well, drew 2-2 with France last night.
Only for a world class save, Ireland would have drawn with France as well.  Them's the breaks.

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2023, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2023, 08:51:09 AMWe are very weak due to the lack of a professional league at home and competition in the EPL. It is very hard to develop players.  The FAI have a lot of work to do. 

Maybe if they paid the local players a wage in comparison to the southern high economic growth being more than the western world plus with the neoliberal crap ...........   
With what money ?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on November 22, 2023, 10:04:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2023, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2023, 08:51:09 AMWe are very weak due to the lack of a professional league at home and competition in the EPL. It is very hard to develop players.  The FAI have a lot of work to do. 

Maybe if they paid the local players a wage in comparison to the southern high economic growth being more than the western world plus with the neoliberal crap ...........   
With what money ?

You have led me to believe that Ireland is the land paved with gold! I thought the place was dripping in wealth
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Tony Baloney

Plenty travel on planes and ferries to watch Celtic, United and Liverpool every week so there are no shortage of supporters but the local game isn't attractive unless you are a diehard.

It's a chicken and egg scenario that requires a consortium with deep pockets to take a punt on pumping money into the local game to develop it but they'd unlikely see the returns via the gates or TV revenue with such a small population centre so it's unlikely to ever happen.

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2023, 10:14:39 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 22, 2023, 10:04:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2023, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2023, 08:51:09 AMWe are very weak due to the lack of a professional league at home and competition in the EPL. It is very hard to develop players.  The FAI have a lot of work to do. 

Maybe if they paid the local players a wage in comparison to the southern high economic growth being more than the western world plus with the neoliberal crap ...........   
With what money ?

You have led me to believe that Ireland is the land paved with gold! I thought the place was dripping in wealth
It isn't in soccer. Try the multinationals.

thewobbler

People constantly gurning about money and investment.

The laziest of arguments.

Having a professional league with a long history and some bloody big clubs, has done little to stop Scotland's slide into a tier 3 international football team.

Ireland has more players in the EPL than Scotland this season.

Having a weak domestic league, low wages and a rudimentary infrastructure hasn't stopped the Ivory Coast, Ghana, Senegal and Mali all producing players (and international teams) that are clearly superior to Ireland.


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Ireland had a long summer of good players in the 80s and 90s. Punched way above our weight for 20 years.

Now we're wintering.

Summer will happen again sometime.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: thewobbler on November 22, 2023, 12:50:34 PMPeople constantly gurning about money and investment.

The laziest of arguments.

Having a professional league with a long history and some bloody big clubs, has done little to stop Scotland's slide into a tier 3 international football team.

Ireland has more players in the EPL than Scotland this season.

Having a weak domestic league, low wages and a rudimentary infrastructure hasn't stopped the Ivory Coast, Ghana, Senegal and Mali all producing players (and international teams) that are clearly superior to Ireland.


——

Ireland had a long summer of good players in the 80s and 90s. Punched way above our weight for 20 years.

Now we're wintering.

Summer will happen again sometime.

These countries have 4 or more than 5 times the population and no one hurls! or plays rugby for that matter, yes the infrastructure is far worse, but I'd say the lads coming through are a little bit more hungrier (literally) for a move to the big leagues
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

thewobbler

Playing numbers and football long culture are of course key drivers.

But I'm really not sure how the wealth of a person's nation could be any kind of factor in their potential/desire to become a high-level athlete.

Hunger isn't set at a national, regional, local or group level. It comes from within.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: thewobbler on November 22, 2023, 12:50:34 PMPeople constantly gurning about money and investment.

The laziest of arguments.

Having a professional league with a long history and some bloody big clubs, has done little to stop Scotland's slide into a tier 3 international football team.

Ireland has more players in the EPL than Scotland this season.

Having a weak domestic league, low wages and a rudimentary infrastructure hasn't stopped the Ivory Coast, Ghana, Senegal and Mali all producing players (and international teams) that are clearly superior to Ireland.


——

Ireland had a long summer of good players in the 80s and 90s. Punched way above our weight for 20 years.

Now we're wintering.

Summer will happen again sometime.
If you have crap structures in place from grassroots to elite you are reliant on generational talents rather than a conveyor belt (ref. Leinster rugby). So yes, summer may come, followed by a long hard winter.