FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

[Baile Brigín 2]

Mick is sticking with what he knows and trusts, no risks taken. He has no incentive to bed down youth.

Upside is Kenny will gut that midfield and play the likes of Byrne, Cullen, Molumby and Coventry. Lads who can trap and pass a football. Huge changes coming. Only Randolf and Duffy are safe.

I'd say John Egan is safe for too.

Fair. Keogh is done and he stepped up well. I think in 2 years time it will be a fundamentally different team and approach. If it works or not remains to be seen.

[Ed Ricketts]

Mick is sticking with what he knows and trusts, no risks taken. He has no incentive to bed down youth.

Upside is Kenny will gut that midfield and play the likes of Byrne, Cullen, Molumby and Coventry. Lads who can trap and pass a football. Huge changes coming. Only Randolf and Duffy are safe.

That defeat to Iceland yesterday was as big a kick in the stones as the senior flop. The form of the U21s was really the only positive thing about Irish soccer recently, but expectations will have to be checked in the aftermath of such a result. Sweden beat that Iceland team 5-0 a few days earlier.

[rodney trotter]

Richard Keogh sacked by Derby after failing to accept a wage cut. Why did he think he should be getting paid full wages while injured for 18 month?

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/derby-county-sack-richard-keogh-after-he-refuses-pay-cut-1.4067246?mode=amp

Republic of Ireland defender Richard Keogh has been left distraught after Derby County sacked him on Wednesday. The club captain suffered serious knee ligament injuries when he was in the car that his team-mate Tom Lawrence crashed into a lamppost after a boozy night out on September 24th.

Keogh, 33, has undergone surgery and is expected to be out for 12-14 months, giving him a return date of the end of next year. His contract, which paid him £24,000 a week, was set to expire in June 2020.

Derby had told Keogh that he could stay and see out his deal with them. Yet they stunned the central defender by saying that he had to accept a massive pay cut in order to do so. The Guardian understands that Derby offered him only a fraction of the money that he would otherwise have collected over the remainder of his contract.

[An Watcher]

Surely he would have a case considering the other two were only fined six weeks wages and they were driving!

[Baile Brigín 2]

Surely he would have a case considering the other two were only fined six weeks wages and they were driving!

They didn't fock up their ACL's and weren't club captain.

[An Watcher]

I would have thought drunk driving is a much worse offence than sleeping in the back seat

[From the Bunker]

I would have thought drunk driving is a much worse offence than sleeping in the back seat

He was badly injured, at the wrong age, and was going to be no use to them.

This is not a moral decision, this is a book keeping decision.

[David McKeown]

I think though Derby could be in big trouble here. It's hard for them to say that this was a Gross Misconduct that should result in termination and also say but it won't be termination if you take a big pay cut. Either it was grounds for termination or it wasn't. I should add I think it was but from what we know so far I would be concerned for Derby.

[Dougal Maguire]

Hardstation, I never realised you were a legal man.

[Itchy]

Business decision. They probably know he'll do them for unfair dismissal and he will win however it will be cheaper than having a man on his salary suit out the end of his career in the bench. However, whatever mistake he made, that's a shitty way to treat club captain and long serving player.

[Baile Brigín 2]

I would have thought drunk driving is a much worse offence than sleeping in the back seat

He was badly injured, at the wrong age, and was going to be no use to them.

This is not a moral decision, this is a book keeping decision.

A bit of both I think

[David McKeown]

Unless it says in his contract, "If you injure yourself acting a knob, we're cutting your wages for the duration that you are not available for selection. If you don't accept that, you can fcuk off."

If the contract gave them the option to cut his wages like that then it would be very strange that it would also require him to agree.

Also I doubt any Tribunal if it found in his favour would ever award less than the remaining value of the contract unless he found a new club first. Which manager was it sued Newcastle a few years ago for constructive dismissal and got more than the value of their contract?

[JohnDenver]

Unless it says in his contract, "If you injure yourself acting a knob, we're cutting your wages for the duration that you are not available for selection. If you don't accept that, you can fcuk off."

If the contract gave them the option to cut his wages like that then it would be very strange that it would also require him to agree.

Also I doubt any Tribunal if it found in his favour would ever award less than the remaining value of the contract unless he found a new club first. Which manager was it sued Newcastle a few years ago for constructive dismissal and got more than the value of their contract?

Almost sure that was Sam Allardyce. The talk was after it he built a villa in spain using the payout, and it was labelled Casa St. James.

[lurganblue]

Bad doing that.  The two drunk drivers aren't sacked but the passenger is.