Things that make you go What the F**k?

[Dubh driocht]

Kieran McEvoy is a solid source but I would be surprised if he stated that petty crime exploded after the troubles. It's hard to get stats for the 90s but if we go back to the GFA in 98 there's a similar picture;
https://www.psni.police.uk/system/files/2023-11/456441561/Police%20Recorded%20Crime%20in%20Northern%20Ireland%201998-99%20to%202022-23.pdf
I accept that it's a complex discussion; however the old cliché that paramilitaries kept a lid on crime doesn't stand up to any serious scrutiny (acknowledging that's not what you said)

[David McKeown]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.

Of course you wouldn't expect the prison population to match the general population distribution. There's hundreds of reasons for that.  Crime being higher in traditionally impoverished areas being one of the most prevalent.

What are the reasons for the higher crime rate?

Criminology is a very complex area so I dont purport to explain it all.  There's plenty of interrelated criminogenic factors, median income, population density, age, gender balance all have major impacts on crime rates, as do other features.  For example petty crime has exploded in Northern Ireland since the end of the troubles.  There's a large number of reasons for that, but one of the main ones was the availability and trust in police to investigate same.  During the troubles there was a disproportionate number of protestant low level criminals but that was reflective of crime reports etc. I cant remember what the most recent figures were but they are much closer. 

The point I'm making is that in very few places in the world if any does the prison population match the breakdown of society,

Fair bit of nonsense

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.

Of course you wouldn't expect the prison population to match the general population distribution. There's hundreds of reasons for that.  Crime being higher in traditionally impoverished areas being one of the most prevalent.

What are the reasons for the higher crime rate?

Criminology is a very complex area so I dont purport to explain it all.  There's plenty of interrelated criminogenic factors, median income, population density, age, gender balance all have major impacts on crime rates, as do other features.  For example petty crime has exploded in Northern Ireland since the end of the troubles.  There's a large number of reasons for that, but one of the main ones was the availability and trust in police to investigate same.  During the troubles there was a disproportionate number of protestant low level criminals but that was reflective of crime reports etc. I cant remember what the most recent figures were but they are much closer. 

The point I'm making is that in very few places in the world if any does the prison population match the breakdown of society,

"Complex" = Go away. Stop asking questions.  The judiciary wants you to stop looking at the obvious.

No complex means not something that I as someone who only practices criminal law, hasn't studied criminology since my under grad degree and has very poor written communication skills is going to be able to accurately explain in a short message on a discussion forum.

For example crime increases dramatically in a recession. So do personal injury claims. Is there one reason for this?  No there are several.

Crime increases in post conflict society again there's no singular reason but there are plenty of complicated interrelated reasons.

Do harsher sentences act a deterrent? No again differing reasons for that depending on the type of crime.

I see quite often media wishing to boil these issues down into sound bites and over simplify what are actually complex issues.

[David McKeown]

Kieran McEvoy is a solid source but I would be surprised if he stated that petty crime exploded after the troubles. It's hard to get stats for the 90s but if we go back to the GFA in 98 there's a similar picture;
https://www.psni.police.uk/system/files/2023-11/456441561/Police%20Recorded%20Crime%20in%20Northern%20Ireland%201998-99%20to%202022-23.pdf
I accept that it's a complex discussion; however the old cliché that paramilitaries kept a lid on crime doesn't stand up to any serious scrutiny (acknowledging that's not what you said)

Well it wouldn't be the first time I had misremembered something I thought someone had said in a lecture but I'm pretty confident he did.

I don't think paramilitaries particularly kept a lid on crime (at least not in terms of acting as a deterrent)although there may have been some small element of that but there are some inter related issues that spin off from that. Crime not being reported in certain areas and instead anti social behaviour being dealt with by punishment beating. As a result crimes occurring but not be reported, investigated or making their way into statistics for example.

You are entirely correct though about the difficulty in getting accurate statistics from that time.

I should have all my lectures from my time recorded. I must see if I can fish them out and check that I'm remembering correctly.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.

Of course you wouldn't expect the prison population to match the general population distribution. There's hundreds of reasons for that.  Crime being higher in traditionally impoverished areas being one of the most prevalent.

What are the reasons for the higher crime rate?

Criminology is a very complex area so I dont purport to explain it all.  There's plenty of interrelated criminogenic factors, median income, population density, age, gender balance all have major impacts on crime rates, as do other features.  For example petty crime has exploded in Northern Ireland since the end of the troubles.  There's a large number of reasons for that, but one of the main ones was the availability and trust in police to investigate same.  During the troubles there was a disproportionate number of protestant low level criminals but that was reflective of crime reports etc. I cant remember what the most recent figures were but they are much closer. 

The point I'm making is that in very few places in the world if any does the prison population match the breakdown of society,

Fair bit of nonsense

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.

Of course you wouldn't expect the prison population to match the general population distribution. There's hundreds of reasons for that.  Crime being higher in traditionally impoverished areas being one of the most prevalent.

What are the reasons for the higher crime rate?

Criminology is a very complex area so I dont purport to explain it all.  There's plenty of interrelated criminogenic factors, median income, population density, age, gender balance all have major impacts on crime rates, as do other features.  For example petty crime has exploded in Northern Ireland since the end of the troubles.  There's a large number of reasons for that, but one of the main ones was the availability and trust in police to investigate same.  During the troubles there was a disproportionate number of protestant low level criminals but that was reflective of crime reports etc. I cant remember what the most recent figures were but they are much closer. 

The point I'm making is that in very few places in the world if any does the prison population match the breakdown of society,

"Complex" = Go away. Stop asking questions.  The judiciary wants you to stop looking at the obvious.

No complex means not something that I as someone who only practices criminal law, hasn't studied criminology since my under grad degree and has very poor written communication skills is going to be able to accurately explain in a short message on a discussion forum.

For example crime increases dramatically in a recession. So do personal injury claims. Is there one reason for this?  No there are several.

Crime increases in post conflict society again there's no singular reason but there are plenty of complicated interrelated reasons.

Do harsher sentences act a deterrent? No again differing reasons for that depending on the type of crime.

I see quite often media wishing to boil these issues down into sound bites and over simplify what are actually complex issues.

Fair play. A measured response

[AustinPowers]

Tumbleweed invasion

Reminds me of  that film Critters

[Wildweasel74]

Critters indeed lol

[armaghniac]

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0304/1435943-child-cruelty/

16 month sentence.

[seafoid]

https://twitter.com/ThebestFigen/status/1764214138719588499

[Wildweasel74]

The big headstone in Ballyhaunis graveyard. Not so much as a goodbye but let's outdo everybody else.

[AustinPowers]

https://twitter.com/ThebestFigen/status/1764214138719588499

Typical sneaky women 

[imtommygunn]

Laurence Fox. Who or what is this imbecile that keeps appearing on my social media? What has he ever done?

[brokencrossbar1]

Laurence Fox. Who or what is this imbecile that keeps appearing on my social media? What has he ever done?

He is unhinged but you know he could have been a decent actor. He had a good start as a member of an established acting family but could have pushed on. Married to Billie Piper,  he was one who could have been a solid 'English man' stereotype actor but unfortunately he just became a ****.

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Laurence Fox. Who or what is this imbecile that keeps appearing on my social media? What has he ever done?

He is unhinged but you know he could have been a decent actor. He had a good start as a member of an established acting family but could have pushed on. Married to Billie Piper,  he was one who could have been a solid 'English man' stereotype actor but unfortunately he just became a ****.

Blast from the past. Some uproar when she was 18 and married that Ginger tosser Chris Evans who was 35.

[imtommygunn]

Marty Clarke new down sweeper keeper

[Tony Baloney]

Laurence Fox. Who or what is this imbecile that keeps appearing on my social media? What has he ever done?

He is unhinged but you know he could have been a decent actor. He had a good start as a member of an established acting family but could have pushed on. Married to Billie Piper,  he was one who could have been a solid 'English man' stereotype actor but unfortunately he just became a ****.

I have no basis for thinking this, but I don't think he believes half the shit he spouts. I think he got himself in an "anti-woke" hole at one stage and instead of apologising, dusting himself off and moving on, he kept digging and as he noticed he had an audience kept digging some more.