Westminster Election 12th December 2019

Started by Ambrose, October 29, 2019, 02:24:04 PM

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johnnycool

Gotta love Mark Carruthers on the View last night.

He gave Steve Aitken an awful time last night and the previous week gave Naomi Long a working and then to cap it off he goes to a panel of "political commentators" to see how the interviewee got on and the blonde woman, Fionnuala O'Connor certainly doesn't hold back on her opinions either.

If he keeps that up Michelle O'Neill and Arlene will be torn asunder.

Farrandeelin

Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2019, 08:33:31 AM
Gotta love Mark Carruthers on the View last night.

He gave Steve Aitken an awful time last night and the previous week gave Naomi Long a working and then to cap it off he goes to a panel of "political commentators" to see how the interviewee got on and the blonde woman, Fionnuala O'Connor certainly doesn't hold back on her opinions either.

If he keeps that up Michelle O'Neill and Arlene will be torn asunder.

I don't particularly like Michelle O'Neill
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Don Johnson

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on November 15, 2019, 02:58:01 AM
Latest odds by constituency from Paddy Power, updated from 5th November, correct at time of this post.

* Latest odds are the rightmost published next to party & candidate
* Favourite has their odds listed in bold
* Any previous odds for a party & candidate are in light grey
* Odds for a party & candidate not yet published by PP are simply blanked ( --- ) for now
* Odds given by PP for a party in a constituency where they are not standing a candidate has been scrubbed from this list

North Belfast



   
Alliance - Nuala McAllister
DUP - Nigel Dodds
Sinn Fein - John Finucane
66/1
4/6 4/5
Eve 5/6

East Belfast



   
Alliance - Naomi Long
DUP - Gavin Robinson
UUP - Carl McClean
5/4
8/13 4/9
50/1

South Belfast



   
Alliance - Paula Bradshaw
Aontú - Chris McHugh
DUP - Emma Little-Pengelly
SDLP - Claire Hanna
UUP - Michael Henderson
7/2
---
6/1 5/1
2/9
125/1

West Belfast



   
Alliance - Donnamarie Higgins
Aontú - Monica Digney
DUP - Frank McCoubrey
PBP - Gerry Carroll
SDLP - Paul Doherty
Sinn Fein - Paul Maskey
100/1
---
100/1
---
100/1
1/200

East Antrim



   
Alliance - Danny Donnelly
Conservatives (NI) - Aaron Rankin
DUP - Sammy Wilson
Greens (NI) - Philip Randle
SDLP - Angela Mulhollan
Sinn Fein - Oliver McMullan
UUP - Steve Aiken
33/1
100/1
1/200
100/1
66/1
66/1
66/1

East Derry (aka East Londonderry)



   
Alliance - Chris McCaw
Aontú - Sean McNicholl
DUP - Gregory Campbell
SDLP - Cara Hunter
Sinn Fein - Dermot Nicholl
UUP - Richard Holmes
100/1
---
1/100
66/1
66/1
100/1

Fermanagh & South Tyrone



   
Alliance - Matthew Beaumont
SDLP - Adam Gannon
Sinn Fein - Michelle Gildernew
UUP - Tom Elliott
Independent - Caroline Wheeler
100/1
100/1
8/15 1/4
11/8 5/2
---

Foyle



   
Alliance - Rachael Ferguson
Aontú - Anne McCloskey
DUP - Gary Middleton
PBP - Shaun Harkin
SDLP - Colum Eastwood
Sinn Fein - Elisha McCallion
UUP - Darren Guy
100/1
---
100/1
---
4/6 1/4
11/10 5/2
---

Lagan Valley



   
Alliance - Sorcha Eastwood
Conservatives (NI) - Gary Hynds
DUP - Jeffrey Donaldson
SDLP - Ally Haydock
Sinn Fein - Gary McCleave
UKIP - Alan Love
UUP - Robbie Butler
20/1
100/1
1/200
100/1
100/1
---
100/1 50/1

Mid Ulster



   
Alliance - Mel Boyle
DUP - Keith Buchanan
SDLP - Denise Johnson
Sinn Fein - Francie Molloy
UUP - Neil Richardson
Independent - Conor Rafferty
100/1
33/1
100/1
1/100
100/1
---

Newry & Armagh



   
Alliance - Jackie Coade
Aontú - Martin Kelly
DUP - William Irwin
SDLP - Peter Byrne
Sinn Fein - Mickey Brady
UUP - Sam Nicholson
100/1
---
33/1
66/1
1/100
100/1

North Antrim



   
Alliance - Patricia O'Lynn
DUP - Ian Paisley
SDLP - Margaret Anne McKillop
Sinn Fein - Cara McShane
UUP - Robin Swann
Independent - Stephen Palmer
66/1
1/200
100/1
50/1
50/1 33/1
---

North Down



   
Alliance - Stephen Farry
Conservatives (NI) - Matthew Robinson
DUP - Alex Easton
UUP - Alan Chambers
9/4
100/1
4/9
7/1

South Antrim



   
Alliance - John Blair
DUP - Paul Girvan
SDLP - Roisin Lynch
Sinn Fein - Declan Kearney
UUP - Danny Kinahan
3/1 4/1
4/7 4/6
100/1
100/1
13/5 7/4

South Down



   
Alliance - Patrick Brown
Aontú - Paul Brady
DUP - Glyn Hanna
SDLP - Michael Savage
Sinn Fein - Chris Hazzard
UUP - Jill Macauley
100/1 60/1
---
66/1
23/10 3/1
1/4 1/5
100/1

Strangford



   
Alliance - Kellie Armstrong
Conservatives (NI) - Grant Abraham
DUP - Jim Shannon
Greens (NI) - Martin Macartney
SDLP - Joe Boyle
Sinn Fein - Ryan Carlin
UKIP - Robert Stephenson
UUP - Philip Smith
20/1
---
1/200 1/50
---
100/1 20/1
100/1
---
100/1

Upper Bann



   
Alliance - Eóin Tennyson
DUP - Carla Lockhart
SDLP - Dolores Kelly
Sinn Fein - John O'Dowd
UUP - Doug Beattie
100/1
1/100 1/7
100/1
33/1 15/2
50/1 11/2

West Tyrone



   
Alliance - Stephen Donnelly
Aontú - James Hope
DUP - Thomas Buchanan
Greens (NI) - Susan Glass
SDLP - Daniel McCrossan
Sinn Fein - Órfhlaith Begley
UUP - Andy McKane
100/1
---
50/1
---
66/1
1/200
66/1

Finucane was actually 7/5 on Paddy Power when they first opened their markets.

SDLP were 4/7 at the start for South Belfast as well, though that was before SF agreed to withdraw.

Naomi Long was 6/4 at the start for East Belfast too, in slightly.

seafoid

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/14/labours-migration-blindspot-has-lost-working-class/

However, this poll brings warnings for the Tories too. Their lead over Labour is just over half what it was four weeks out from the 2017 Election. Most of the underlying factors, like keeping Britain's streets safe and mending the divisions in the country, are in the Tories' favour, but the electoral maths mean that victory is still uncertain.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Maroon Manc

Labour has promised to give every home and business in the UK free full-fibre broadband by 2030, if it wins the general election.

Another crackpot idea from Corbyn.

RedHand88

Quote from: Maroon Manc on November 15, 2019, 12:38:31 PM
Labour has promised to give every home and business in the UK free full-fibre broadband by 2030, if it wins the general election.

Another crackpot idea from Corbyn.

The idea that digging up every country lane to run cables is better than using satellite broadband is absolute beggars belief.

Corbyn is unelectable.

johnnycool

Quote from: RedHand88 on November 15, 2019, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on November 15, 2019, 12:38:31 PM
Labour has promised to give every home and business in the UK free full-fibre broadband by 2030, if it wins the general election.

Another crackpot idea from Corbyn.

The idea that digging up every country lane to run cables is better than using satellite broadband is absolute beggars belief.

Corbyn is unelectable.

Fibre to the street I think its called and then twisted pair to your home. Can't see why anyone would need gigabit to their home all the same, 500M+ is madness.

BT are already structured in such a way (in GB anyway) where Openreach look after the infrastructure and BT apply the services over that.

Nationalising Openreach makes sense in some ways as currently there's a propensity for Openreach not to bother with some rural areas due to their perceived lack of uptake and I've been on the receiving end of their intransigence even when there's a fibre cabinet less than 100 metres from my front door and the hoors still won't make the investment to connect me and a dozen of my neighbours north of the cabinet, yet another neighbour south of that cabinet is getting 30M plus. I get 3 to 4 M at best.

BT and Openreach are historically renowned for being very slow to invest in new technologies and instead ring every last penny out of their current infrastructure and in doing so hold up the whole UK backbone. They are pissed off with not being allowed to install Huawei as in the telecoms world its cheap shit even though its improved immeasurably since i was involved in the telecoms world.

Corbyn putting a rocket up their arse will be a good thing for everybody.



smelmoth

Quote from: BennyCake on November 14, 2019, 01:25:07 PM
Anyone who can pay less tax, will. Dont the government get enough off ordinary people? There are ways around it, just like there are for big companies. So if they don t pay, why should ordinary folk? Look after yourself, I say.

What are consequences for those that can't look after themselves? Are they just collateral damage?

smelmoth

Quote from: RedHand88 on November 15, 2019, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on November 15, 2019, 12:38:31 PM
Labour has promised to give every home and business in the UK free full-fibre broadband by 2030, if it wins the general election.

Another crackpot idea from Corbyn.

The idea that digging up every country lane to run cables is better than using satellite broadband is absolute beggars belief.

Corbyn is unelectable.

Is this the proposal?

I think it's one where you need to see the full detail

smelmoth

The figures being used by the Tories in this campaign are incredible. Are we in a post truth era where there no consequences for bare faced lies.

Bojo has repeatedly claimed to have recruited 20,000 police officers. He has recruited none. He has claimed to have met some of these officers conveniently overlooking the fact that they don't actually exist.

Sunday's papers were full of the the £1.2 trillion that Labour would add to National Debt. The sums behind that were staggering. Haw Javid kept a straight face on Marr was a feat of some significance. He should have been on Britain's Got Talent

Immigration today and no mention that 20% of immigrants are now not fro EU

Labour's reform of Ofsted was portrayed as the abolition of the means of stopping children being bullied.


Mikhail Prokhorov

Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2019, 01:19:49 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on November 15, 2019, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on November 15, 2019, 12:38:31 PM
Labour has promised to give every home and business in the UK free full-fibre broadband by 2030, if it wins the general election.

Another crackpot idea from Corbyn.

The idea that digging up every country lane to run cables is better than using satellite broadband is absolute beggars belief.

Corbyn is unelectable.

Fibre to the street I think its called and then twisted pair to your home. Can't see why anyone would need gigabit to their home all the same, 500M+ is madness.

BT are already structured in such a way (in GB anyway) where Openreach look after the infrastructure and BT apply the services over that.

Nationalising Openreach makes sense in some ways as currently there's a propensity for Openreach not to bother with some rural areas due to their perceived lack of uptake and I've been on the receiving end of their intransigence even when there's a fibre cabinet less than 100 metres from my front door and the hoors still won't make the investment to connect me and a dozen of my neighbours north of the cabinet, yet another neighbour south of that cabinet is getting 30M plus. I get 3 to 4 M at best.

BT and Openreach are historically renowned for being very slow to invest in new technologies and instead ring every last penny out of their current infrastructure and in doing so hold up the whole UK backbone. They are pissed off with not being allowed to install Huawei as in the telecoms world its cheap shit even though its improved immeasurably since i was involved in the telecoms world.

Corbyn putting a rocket up their arse will be a good thing for everybody.

free broadband is a great idea, the current system is a complete money grab, one house pays 10 quid a month as a new customer, the next door is paying 40  ???. people not savvy enough to keep changing provider get ripped off, esp the elderly, it's a disgrace

magpie seanie

I can confirm that Fibre from the cabinet is actually a thing here in the Republic. I've been round the houses on it!!! In the end I got mobile broadband which is perfectly fine. Fibre to the home expected any time now  ::) so we'll see when that apprives what the options are.

screenexile

Corbyn wants to give everyone free broadband and pay them the same money for working less hours...

What a horrible bastard I vote Boris!!

Kidder81

Quote from: screenexile on November 15, 2019, 04:03:25 PM
Corbyn wants to give everyone free broadband and pay them the same money for working less hours...

What a horrible b**tard I vote Boris!!

It's some money tree he has found