Brexit.

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seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2018, 04:53:49 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 13, 2018, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2018, 04:08:12 PM
And the last time I checked the map Stormont was in Ireland not Britain.

Yes but it's a British government setup in Ireland. It recognises NI, a NI which is a part of the UK. Therefore, recognising partition. And since SF were actively involved in setting up The assembly at Stormont and running it, they too are recognising the British partition of Ireland.

As a majority of us voted for in 1998.
It's the Oath of Allegiance to the Monarch in Westminister that's their problem.
Anyway the excreta should be hitting the DUPUDA extractor if news reports on the text re avoiding a hard border are accurate.
Go ndéana Dia trócaire orthu

https://youtu.be/InfXlZd2_IU
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

trailer

Quote from: seafoid on November 13, 2018, 02:05:04 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/13/northern-irish-farmers-brexit-enniskillen

Maguire, who owns and rents farmland and does not want to return to the old days when there was "nothing but trouble" on the border, said: "To be quite honest, nobody knows what's going on."

He fears that if tariffs are put on sheep, his sales market is dead. "The first thing that will go are the sheep. Seventy percent of them go south to be killed. If there's barriers there, the market goes," Maguire said.

For him, the approach of the DUP is unfathomable. The party does not represent border communities and is threatening the livelihoods of farmers on the border, he said. "The DUP are backing themselves into a corner. They are not going to agree unless it's their way or no way. They are holding the government to ransom," Maguire said.

Protestant Farmers to a man voted leave. They hate the "red tape" that the EU enforces in return for subsidies. They think leaving the EU will remove this. Boy are they in for a shock.

screenexile

The gammon outbreak of the DUP is a joy to behold at this moment in time!!

Rois

Quote from: screenexile on November 13, 2018, 09:03:41 PM
The gammon outbreak of the DUP is a joy to behold at this moment in time!!
Arlene's statement complaining about NI having no representation in Brussels is ironic - NI currently has no political representation in NI.

imtommygunn

There is a lot of irony in pretty much every dup statement.

seafoid

Quote from: imtommygunn on November 13, 2018, 09:35:30 PM
There is a lot of irony in pretty much every dup statement.
One that made me laugh was Arlene saying that Dublin representing NI firms inBrussels would not be good for them. The alternative is the DUP blowing up the economy.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

mouview

Quote from: trailer on November 13, 2018, 08:59:17 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 13, 2018, 02:05:04 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/13/northern-irish-farmers-brexit-enniskillen

Maguire, who owns and rents farmland and does not want to return to the old days when there was "nothing but trouble" on the border, said: "To be quite honest, nobody knows what's going on."

He fears that if tariffs are put on sheep, his sales market is dead. "The first thing that will go are the sheep. Seventy percent of them go south to be killed. If there's barriers there, the market goes," Maguire said.

For him, the approach of the DUP is unfathomable. The party does not represent border communities and is threatening the livelihoods of farmers on the border, he said. "The DUP are backing themselves into a corner. They are not going to agree unless it's their way or no way. They are holding the government to ransom," Maguire said.

Protestant Farmers to a man voted leave. They hate the "red tape" that the EU enforces in return for subsidies. They think leaving the EU will remove this. Boy are they in for a shock.

No they didn't. Border farmers of all colours knew the dangers of Brexit and voted Remain.

armaghniac

Quote from: mouview on November 13, 2018, 09:52:57 PM
Quote from: trailer on November 13, 2018, 08:59:17 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 13, 2018, 02:05:04 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/13/northern-irish-farmers-brexit-enniskillen

Maguire, who owns and rents farmland and does not want to return to the old days when there was "nothing but trouble" on the border, said: "To be quite honest, nobody knows what's going on."

He fears that if tariffs are put on sheep, his sales market is dead. "The first thing that will go are the sheep. Seventy percent of them go south to be killed. If there's barriers there, the market goes," Maguire said.

For him, the approach of the DUP is unfathomable. The party does not represent border communities and is threatening the livelihoods of farmers on the border, he said. "The DUP are backing themselves into a corner. They are not going to agree unless it's their way or no way. They are holding the government to ransom," Maguire said.

Protestant Farmers to a man voted leave. They hate the "red tape" that the EU enforces in return for subsidies. They think leaving the EU will remove this. Boy are they in for a shock.

No they didn't. Border farmers of all colours knew the dangers of Brexit and voted Remain.

Not so, as the article above shows.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

yellowcard

Quote from: trailer on November 13, 2018, 08:59:17 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 13, 2018, 02:05:04 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/13/northern-irish-farmers-brexit-enniskillen

Maguire, who owns and rents farmland and does not want to return to the old days when there was "nothing but trouble" on the border, said: "To be quite honest, nobody knows what's going on."

He fears that if tariffs are put on sheep, his sales market is dead. "The first thing that will go are the sheep. Seventy percent of them go south to be killed. If there's barriers there, the market goes," Maguire said.

For him, the approach of the DUP is unfathomable. The party does not represent border communities and is threatening the livelihoods of farmers on the border, he said. "The DUP are backing themselves into a corner. They are not going to agree unless it's their way or no way. They are holding the government to ransom," Maguire said.

Protestant Farmers to a man voted leave. They hate the "red tape" that the EU enforces in return for subsidies. They think leaving the EU will remove this. Boy are they in for a shock.

Can you put up the source for this assertion please.

The royal family are one of the biggest beneficiaries of the E.U. single farm payment raking in over £1 million per annum, I wonder how Lizzie voted.

Franko

Quote from: trailer on November 13, 2018, 08:59:17 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 13, 2018, 02:05:04 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/13/northern-irish-farmers-brexit-enniskillen

Maguire, who owns and rents farmland and does not want to return to the old days when there was "nothing but trouble" on the border, said: "To be quite honest, nobody knows what's going on."

He fears that if tariffs are put on sheep, his sales market is dead. "The first thing that will go are the sheep. Seventy percent of them go south to be killed. If there's barriers there, the market goes," Maguire said.

For him, the approach of the DUP is unfathomable. The party does not represent border communities and is threatening the livelihoods of farmers on the border, he said. "The DUP are backing themselves into a corner. They are not going to agree unless it's their way or no way. They are holding the government to ransom," Maguire said.

Protestant Farmers to a man voted leave. They hate the "red tape" that the EU enforces in return for subsidies. They think leaving the EU will remove this. Boy are they in for a shock.

Nonsense.

haranguerer

Quote from: trailer on November 13, 2018, 08:59:17 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 13, 2018, 02:05:04 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/13/northern-irish-farmers-brexit-enniskillen

Maguire, who owns and rents farmland and does not want to return to the old days when there was "nothing but trouble" on the border, said: "To be quite honest, nobody knows what's going on."

He fears that if tariffs are put on sheep, his sales market is dead. "The first thing that will go are the sheep. Seventy percent of them go south to be killed. If there's barriers there, the market goes," Maguire said.

For him, the approach of the DUP is unfathomable. The party does not represent border communities and is threatening the livelihoods of farmers on the border, he said. "The DUP are backing themselves into a corner. They are not going to agree unless it's their way or no way. They are holding the government to ransom," Maguire said.

Protestant Farmers to a man voted leave. They hate the "red tape" that the EU enforces in return for subsidies. They think leaving the EU will remove this. Boy are they in for a shock.

Completely clueless

seafoid

#4931
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BREAKING: DUP leader Arlene Foster is en route to London. She's told @SkyNews these are "worrying times", that she hopes to see the text today but is "not prepared" to see NI "cast adrift in the future."

Charles de Gaulle

Pour l'Angleterre il n'y a pas d'alliance qui tienne, ni de traité qui vaille ni le verite qui compte

For England there is no durable alliance, no treaty that lasts and no recognisable truth
The Unionists are going to learn this. 
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BennyHarp

Quote from: trailer on November 13, 2018, 08:59:17 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 13, 2018, 02:05:04 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/13/northern-irish-farmers-brexit-enniskillen

Maguire, who owns and rents farmland and does not want to return to the old days when there was "nothing but trouble" on the border, said: "To be quite honest, nobody knows what's going on."

He fears that if tariffs are put on sheep, his sales market is dead. "The first thing that will go are the sheep. Seventy percent of them go south to be killed. If there's barriers there, the market goes," Maguire said.

For him, the approach of the DUP is unfathomable. The party does not represent border communities and is threatening the livelihoods of farmers on the border, he said. "The DUP are backing themselves into a corner. They are not going to agree unless it's their way or no way. They are holding the government to ransom," Maguire said.

Protestant Farmers to a man voted leave. They hate the "red tape" that the EU enforces in return for subsidies. They think leaving the EU will remove this. Boy are they in for a shock.

There was a guy in the audience, representing NI farmers, who spoke on that Nolan Byrne show the other night who made it fairly clear that they didn't support Brexit?
That was never a square ball!!

HiMucker

Quote from: BennyHarp on November 14, 2018, 08:52:16 AM
Quote from: trailer on November 13, 2018, 08:59:17 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 13, 2018, 02:05:04 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/13/northern-irish-farmers-brexit-enniskillen

Maguire, who owns and rents farmland and does not want to return to the old days when there was "nothing but trouble" on the border, said: "To be quite honest, nobody knows what's going on."

He fears that if tariffs are put on sheep, his sales market is dead. "The first thing that will go are the sheep. Seventy percent of them go south to be killed. If there's barriers there, the market goes," Maguire said.

For him, the approach of the DUP is unfathomable. The party does not represent border communities and is threatening the livelihoods of farmers on the border, he said. "The DUP are backing themselves into a corner. They are not going to agree unless it's their way or no way. They are holding the government to ransom," Maguire said.

Protestant Farmers to a man voted leave. They hate the "red tape" that the EU enforces in return for subsidies. They think leaving the EU will remove this. Boy are they in for a shock.

There was a guy in the audience, representing NI farmers, who spoke on that Nolan Byrne show the other night who made it fairly clear that they didn't support Brexit?
I am not sure what the figures are,but the only 2 protestant farmers I know here in Derry definitely did not vote for Brexit. So clearly it was not "to a man".

Jim_Murphy_74

I see that the Daily Mail has come out with front page headline in support of May's proposal.

Has she yet boxed clever?  The likes of the DUP, Rees Mogg and Boris are all lunatics who were never going to be happy.  So, if she knows her own cabinet well enough, allied with a media campaign that this is the best on offer she could get a Labour rump onside and throw Arlene and co. under the bus?  I am sure the spectre of a no deal will win some over.

Otherwise are we looking at a General election and a no deal, disorganized brexit?

/Jim.