China Coronavirus

Started by lurganblue, January 23, 2020, 09:52:32 AM

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seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-incidence-in-the-republic-set-to-surpass-that-of-uk-1.4326076?mode=amp

The State's incidence of Covid-19 appears set to surpass that of the UK for the first time since the pandemic started, new figures show. File photograph: Valerie Macon/AFP via Getty Images

Paul Cullen, Harry McGee

about 6 hours ago

   

The State's incidence of Covid-19 appears set to surpass that of the UK for the first time since the pandemic started, new figures show.

The 14-day incidence of the disease in the Republic has increased sevenfold in the space of three weeks, to reach 15.8 cases per 100,000 of population, according to an update from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control yesterday.

This compares to a figure of 15.9 in the UK, which a month ago had an incidence almost eight times that of Ireland. Since then, case numbers in the UK have been steady, although yesterday they exceeded 1,000 for the first time since June.

Covid-19 is now being detected at a higher rate in the State than in Germany and Slovenia and a number of other EU countries not on the Government's green list.

The figures highlight the dramatic increase in the number of cases in recent weeks, driven largely by outbreaks in food processing plants in the midlands.

Kildare Chilling in Kildare town, which has registered 150 cases, and O'Brien Fine Foods in Timahoe, with 86 cases, have suspended production, while Irish Dog Foods in Naas, where 53 cases have been reported, has shelved plans to reopen today.

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

tyroneman

Anyone know what the logic is behind customers bieng asked to wear masks in shops, while staff are not?

Surely both should be?


highorlow

I agree on the factory owners but when a doctor in Laois had to call the guards on 2 lads that she told to self isolate and she saw them walking the streets a few hours later things aren't good.
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

tyroneman

It's remarkable how little a fcuk some folk give now.


ONeill

Quote from: tyroneman on August 10, 2020, 09:34:34 AM
Anyone know what the logic is behind customers bieng asked to wear masks in shops, while staff are not?

Surely both should be?

Is that the current ruling?
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

tyroneman

Quote from: ONeill on August 10, 2020, 09:41:00 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 10, 2020, 09:34:34 AM
Anyone know what the logic is behind customers bieng asked to wear masks in shops, while staff are not?

Surely both should be?

Is that the current ruling?

"From 10 August the use of face coverings in certain indoor settings, such as shops or shopping centres, will be mandatory. You must also wear a face covering on public transport"

followed by:

You don't have to wear a face covering:

    if you are under the age of 13
    if you are a member of staff or employee of the shop or shopping centre
    temporarily, if a member of staff or employee or a police officer asks you to remove it to check your identity
    If you have a reasonable excuse not to

.........

sid waddell

Quote from: seafoid on August 10, 2020, 06:35:28 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 10, 2020, 01:16:05 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 10, 2020, 12:41:13 AM

It's a case of personal responsibility at this stage but some of the foreign nationals don't get that, particular the Muslims and the ethic travelling community.
This is like bad satire.

Sure why focus on the actual personal responsibility of the owners and management at meat processing plants to ensure safe working conditions when you can just lump it all on low wage workers and ethnic minorities.

The vacuous right-wing mantra of "personal responsibility" is both a dog whistle and a self-consciously fraudulent grift to protect untrammelled corporate power, and lack of corporate responsibility, and incompetence or worse.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/meat-plant-clusters-may-be-down-to-softly-softly-approach-1.4324924?mode=amp

We know now what works to stop the virus: distance, hand hygiene, masks. We know where the risky environments are: crowded indoor spaces, meat plants, shared accommodation.
Minimum wage workers have a "personal responsibility" to ensure they get their own flats rather than live in cramped shared accommodation, no doubt

Itchy

Quote from: armaghniac on August 10, 2020, 02:10:05 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 10, 2020, 01:16:05 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 10, 2020, 12:41:13 AM

It's a case of personal responsibility at this stage but some of the foreign nationals don't get that, particular the Muslims and the ethic travelling community.
This is like bad satire.

Sure why focus on the actual personal responsibility of the owners and management at meat processing plants to ensure safe working conditions when you can just lump it all on low wage workers and ethnic minorities.

The vacuous right-wing mantra of "personal responsibility" is both a dog whistle and a self-consciously fraudulent grift to protect untrammelled corporate power, and lack of corporate responsibility, and incompetence or worse.

No, both the owners and the workers have responsibilities. They cannot just put the blame on the other.

Exactly, the owners can only do what they can do. I have no idea whether these meat factories were well set up or not and I hazard a guess no one on here knows  that either. Likewise we dont know the culture of the workers are in terms of telling owners about any symptoms they have. This is not simple stuff and only people who dont have a clue about working in factories think it is.

thebigfella

Quote from: highorlow on August 10, 2020, 12:41:13 AM
Hopefully the people getting it now are only getting ordinary flu like symptoms and not the lung scarring and other stuff that's making the headlines. I've also heard of a good few older people back in March that had it and it was just like a head cold and passed through them. We might be ok here for winter as we had a severe flu season last winter unlike the Italians and Spanish who were caught off guard.

It's a case of personal responsibility at this stage but some of the foreign nationals don't get that, particular the Muslims and the ethic travelling community.

Thank fcuk we know how to defeat the china virus, get everybody to convert to christianity.

laoislad

Quote from: tyroneman on August 10, 2020, 09:34:34 AM
Anyone know what the logic is behind customers bieng asked to wear masks in shops, while staff are not?

Surely both should be?
Where's this? Any shop I've been in the last few weeks every staff member was wearing a mask or a face shield.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

armaghniac

Quote from: thebigfella on August 10, 2020, 11:28:03 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 10, 2020, 12:41:13 AM
Hopefully the people getting it now are only getting ordinary flu like symptoms and not the lung scarring and other stuff that's making the headlines. I've also heard of a good few older people back in March that had it and it was just like a head cold and passed through them. We might be ok here for winter as we had a severe flu season last winter unlike the Italians and Spanish who were caught off guard.

It's a case of personal responsibility at this stage but some of the foreign nationals don't get that, particular the Muslims and the ethic travelling community.

Thank fcuk we know how to defeat the china virus, get everybody to convert to christianity.

It should help, but Muslims should be away of the idea of not killing people also. However, some people basically judge morality in relation to themselves, they think others should be nice to them without any reciprocal obligation.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

tyroneman

Quote from: laoislad on August 10, 2020, 11:32:40 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 10, 2020, 09:34:34 AM
Anyone know what the logic is behind customers bieng asked to wear masks in shops, while staff are not?

Surely both should be?
Where's this? Any shop I've been in the last few weeks every staff member was wearing a mask or a face shield.

It's part of the new guidance in the North

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: tyroneman on August 10, 2020, 11:35:49 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 10, 2020, 11:32:40 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 10, 2020, 09:34:34 AM
Anyone know what the logic is behind customers bieng asked to wear masks in shops, while staff are not?

Surely both should be?
Where's this? Any shop I've been in the last few weeks every staff member was wearing a mask or a face shield.

It's part of the new guidance in the North

It's mad, all you have to do is say you are exempt. No problem. No questions asked.

LeoMc

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 10, 2020, 11:42:08 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 10, 2020, 11:35:49 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 10, 2020, 11:32:40 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 10, 2020, 09:34:34 AM
Anyone know what the logic is behind customers bieng asked to wear masks in shops, while staff are not?

Surely both should be?
Where's this? Any shop I've been in the last few weeks every staff member was wearing a mask or a face shield.

It's part of the new guidance in the North

It's mad, all you have to do is say you are exempt. No problem. No questions asked.
Sure why would you do that unless you were a selfish cvnt.

imtommygunn

There are a lot of "anti maskers" out there - not just in america.