26 County General Election 2020

Started by Snapchap, January 09, 2020, 06:52:51 PM

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What will be makeup of the next government?

FF/SD/Lab/Green
FG/SD/Lab/Green
FG/FF
FF/Green
FG/Independents
FG/Independents
FG/Green
FF/SF
FF/Green/Independents
FF Minority
FG Minority
FG/SF
FF/Lab/Green
FF/Lab
FF/Lab/Green/Independents

Angelo

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 13, 2020, 02:49:57 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 13, 2020, 01:53:12 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 13, 2020, 01:41:34 PM
Look everyone knows it was a set up to throw this Quinn case at Mary Lou live on TV. Same tactic was used on Sean Gallagher when he ran for president. If people cannot see that then they probably just dont want to see what is right i front of them.

Austin Stack, Mairia Cahill etc

It's strange that we never hear about the victims of the Stardust fire still awaiting justice. The Butterly family who owned the venue were big donors to FF and had close links to Charlie Haughey.

We also hear little of the Mary Boyle case, a 6 year old girl believed to have been abused and killed by a person known to her. There is multiple allegations from Gardai who worked on the case that a prominent FF politician in the area interfered in the investigation and stopped the prime suspect being questioned.

We don't hear much about the priest murdered in the midlands after a wedding, again the main suspects had close links to FF with a FF TD in attendance on the night of. A family friend of the main suspect handled the case and gave a not guilty verdict back.

The lack of appetite to solve the Dublin Monaghan bombings etc etc.

No outrage there though.

Such a bad and inaccurate post

Bad and inaccurate because it shows up the double standards?

Why has the Mary Boyle case being buried by mainstream media for years when her sister has being doing all she could to get it the attention she deserves, where Gardai who worked on the case have alleged that politicians became involved to pervert the cause of justice. It's a national scandal but can't get any traction in the media.

The Stardust Fire and Dublin Monaghan bombings were two of the biggest tragedies and loss of life that the state experienced and nobody has ever been brought to justice on either case. There are some very unnerving facts in both incidents that point to state intervention in stopping the victims family getting any sort of justice for their loved ones.

But that doesn't sit in with your staged shrieking.
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Itchy

I wonder if the suspect in the mary boyle case was a Sinn Fein member would the media still ignore it. What di you think lads?

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on February 13, 2020, 04:44:47 PM
Back on subject FF decide not to have talks with SF about Government formation.
They will talk to others though.

They could probably put smacht on SF in Government though.
FFG would be more risky for them. SF outside the tent pissing in

There are no simple solutions. House prices have to come down but owners won't agree. That is the problem with asset bubbles.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: Itchy on February 13, 2020, 06:21:11 PM
I wonder if the suspect in the mary boyle case was a Sinn Fein member would the media still ignore it. What di you think lads?

RTÉ produced a documentary on it. And I don't even see comparison between the cases other than 2 innocent people were murdered brutally

Eamonnca1

Quote from: trileacman on February 13, 2020, 06:57:46 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 13, 2020, 12:30:15 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 13, 2020, 12:24:59 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 12, 2020, 11:06:43 PM
Nope. SF would be the big winners in that scenario, they'd have a better picture of how many candidates they can run. FF and FG would lose seats and SF would pick them up.

Sf transfers did not go to FG or FF, in general. They will take the seats off those elected on those transfers. They'd end up with 44 or 45, while still needing 81.
In another election, SF transfers would go to the extra SF candidates that they now know they could have had running.

Thats exactly what he said.

Ah, I misread him. Sorry.

Main Street

Probably unique  that both  FG and FF admit they are ideologically screwed and haven't any positivity about their ability to make inroads into the issues most people are concerned about. They both want time out.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: seafoid on February 13, 2020, 06:45:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 13, 2020, 04:44:47 PM
Back on subject FF decide not to have talks with SF about Government formation.
They will talk to others though.

They could probably put smacht on SF in Government though.
FFG would be more risky for them. SF outside the tent pissing in

There are no simple solutions. House prices have to come down but owners won't agree. That is the problem with asset bubbles.
It's a shortage of supply issue

Cannot see houses dropping in price for 4-5 years plus

A huge issue is the distances people are having to travel for work.

Aaron Boone

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2020, 09:19:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 13, 2020, 06:45:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 13, 2020, 04:44:47 PM
Back on subject FF decide not to have talks with SF about Government formation.
They will talk to others though.

They could probably put smacht on SF in Government though.
FFG would be more risky for them. SF outside the tent pissing in

There are no simple solutions. House prices have to come down but owners won't agree. That is the problem with asset bubbles.
It's a shortage of supply issue

Cannot see houses dropping in price for 4-5 years plus

A huge issue is the distances people are having to travel for work.
Dublin yes. Cork, Limerick etc?

Tubberman

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2020, 09:19:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 13, 2020, 06:45:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 13, 2020, 04:44:47 PM
Back on subject FF decide not to have talks with SF about Government formation.
They will talk to others though.

They could probably put smacht on SF in Government though.
FFG would be more risky for them. SF outside the tent pissing in

There are no simple solutions. House prices have to come down but owners won't agree. That is the problem with asset bubbles.
It's a shortage of supply issue

Cannot see houses dropping in price for 4-5 years plus

A huge issue is the distances people are having to travel for work.

House prices dropped in 2019
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Itchy

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 13, 2020, 07:48:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 13, 2020, 06:21:11 PM
I wonder if the suspect in the mary boyle case was a Sinn Fein member would the media still ignore it. What di you think lads?

RTÉ produced a documentary on it. And I don't even see comparison between the cases other than 2 innocent people were murdered brutally

That's true. The quinn murder was not carried out by a sinn fein member but one member suggested Quinn was a criminal. That's case mo 1.

In case no 2 a FF representative covered up the kidnap and murder of a small child.

So yes, they are certainly different.

seafoid

Quote from: Itchy on February 13, 2020, 10:30:45 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 13, 2020, 07:48:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 13, 2020, 06:21:11 PM
I wonder if the suspect in the mary boyle case was a Sinn Fein member would the media still ignore it. What di you think lads?

RTÉ produced a documentary on it. And I don't even see comparison between the cases other than 2 innocent people were murdered brutally

That's true. The quinn murder was not carried out by a sinn fein member but one member suggested Quinn was a criminal. That's case mo 1.

In case no 2 a FF representative covered up the kidnap and murder of a small child.

So yes, they are certainly different.

If Shinners want to score points they should focus on economic issues rather than Mary Boyle.
FF blew up the economy in 2009
FG caused the housing crisis.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Rossfan

The irony... Mícheál Martin wants to keep SF out of Government to stop them "destroying the Country".
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Angelo

Quote from: seafoid on February 14, 2020, 07:48:02 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 13, 2020, 10:30:45 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 13, 2020, 07:48:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 13, 2020, 06:21:11 PM
I wonder if the suspect in the mary boyle case was a Sinn Fein member would the media still ignore it. What di you think lads?

RTÉ produced a documentary on it. And I don't even see comparison between the cases other than 2 innocent people were murdered brutally

That's true. The quinn murder was not carried out by a sinn fein member but one member suggested Quinn was a criminal. That's case mo 1.

In case no 2 a FF representative covered up the kidnap and murder of a small child.

So yes, they are certainly different.

If Shinners want to score points they should focus on economic issues rather than Mary Boyle.
FF blew up the economy in 2009
FG caused the housing crisis.

It's not a case of scoring points. SF never tried to shoehorn Mary Boyle in as an election issue - it just shows how low FG/FF and the establishment will sink.
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Jim_Murphy_74

Quote from: Itchy on February 13, 2020, 10:30:45 PM
That's true. The quinn murder was not carried out by a sinn fein member but one member suggested Quinn was a criminal.

Maybe it's a best case for Sinn Féin that people are discussing the latter.   

If some in media listened to the Quinns or looked back over media in the last 13 years they might draw a very different conclusion about the former.

/Jim.